Died by Violence: The Demise of Billy the Kid's Gang

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  • Truth can be difficult to divine from fiction in stories of the wild west. But there have been many, over the years, who purported to witness the demise of outlaws, such as Billy the Kid and members of his notorious band of rustlers. And those stories tend to illustrate a simple rule- men who lived by violence, often died by violence.
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Komentáře • 279

  • @claytondennis8034
    @claytondennis8034 Před 9 měsíci +40

    I'd love to see a video on Quantrill's Raiders. Maybe a series on them and how they were integrated into the Civil War, Bleeding Kansas, and all the troubles of Missouri.

    • @rocksandoil2241
      @rocksandoil2241 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Even Quantrill was afraid of Bloody Bill Anderson

    • @joaqu7002
      @joaqu7002 Před 16 dny

      Perhaps in combination with one about Jesse James

  • @chriskenney4377
    @chriskenney4377 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I'm an old Texas Panhandle native. Heard these types of stories all my life. Thanks Guy.

  • @michaelporzio7384
    @michaelporzio7384 Před 9 měsíci +41

    And of course, Pat Garrett himself died violently later on in 1908. Still a mystery about who killed him and the circumstances of his death. Violent men for violent times, the lines between the good guys and bad guys were very blurry in the "Wild West." Awesome as usual, THG!

    • @Idahoguy10157
      @Idahoguy10157 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Pat Garrett owed money. A professional assassin named Jim Miller may have murdered Garrett. But anyone who Garrett owed money too may have done it themselves.

    • @TheMeanGreenGoblin
      @TheMeanGreenGoblin Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@Idahoguy10157Killer Miller or Deacon Miller was a bad, bad dude. If anyone wants to fall down a rabbithole google that guy.

  • @elcastorgrande
    @elcastorgrande Před 9 měsíci +30

    So much history has to be sorted out from tall tales and imperfect memories. You do a great job of sorting.

  • @dannypgrizzle
    @dannypgrizzle Před 9 měsíci +32

    Pat Garrett was himself murdered between El Paso and Mesilla (Las Cruces) New Mexico, possibly on the orders of Albert Fall. Which would be another great episode for the History Guy, if you have not covered the notorious Fall already - the man behind one of the greatest political scandals in U.S. history - Teapot Dome.

    • @jliller
      @jliller Před 8 měsíci +1

      The original "fall guy."

  • @RetiredSailor60
    @RetiredSailor60 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Good morning from Ft Worth TX History Guy and everyone watching...

  • @123Shel12
    @123Shel12 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Excellent work as always! I grew up in Las Vegas NM and as a child in the 1950s, I remember long time residents pointing out various locations in town that had some connection or association with Billy the kid. Your video brought back a lot of those memories. Many thanks!

  • @brucelewis9440
    @brucelewis9440 Před 9 měsíci +21

    You are my favorite CZcamsr! I’m 66 and have been a history buff since my teens. I thank you for your sharing of your knowledge in a way that is both accurate and exquisitely presented. I have been binge watching past episodes since I found you last week!

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I loved this episode! I'm from Pittsburgh, PA and I am pretty knowledgeable about its history, Since I was a kid, I have been fascinated by tales from the "Old West". It was always fascinating how that part of the nation was still FRONTEER when "we" in the "Old East" already had electric trolleys, lights and telephones. While cattle rustling and train robberies were going on in the West, "we" already were dealing with the "Black Hand" (precursor to the American Mafia). Two different worlds in the SAME country!

  • @paulawolff3456
    @paulawolff3456 Před 9 měsíci +28

    Superb as usual! Thank you for your dedication to knowing and presenting history to us. It's a joy!!

  • @mikenixon2401
    @mikenixon2401 Před 9 měsíci +33

    I remember hearing old men claim how they came face-to-face with Billy the Kid, or others. Eventually I got old enough to realize they were in an entirely different part of the country per the time of claims. It was easier too get away with tall tale back then. For 8-to-10-year-old boys it sparked imaginations and interest in history.

    • @walkaway6212
      @walkaway6212 Před 9 měsíci

      Still pretty ez today. Look at all the morons that believe a pedophile criminal resident of the White House.
      EDIT: Ever watch the young try to count change at the store?😂

    • @davidmcmahon4633
      @davidmcmahon4633 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah, I remember reading about all the folks who supposedly attended Woodstock would number over a quarter of a million instead of the few thousand that showed up. People want to be part of something historic so they 'stretch the truth a bit'

    • @randallmarsh1187
      @randallmarsh1187 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@davidmcmahon4633 Yea, except your number are off, way off! By all accounts, the actual attendance at Woodstock was between 400,000 and 500,000 so all of those people you just called liars could have all been telling the truth! All one has to do is to look at the actual footage and see that your claim of "a few thousand" was bogus!

  • @davidr6585
    @davidr6585 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Very appropriate attire for today's video History Guy. Loved it, was like having a wise poker dealer telling us the story.

  • @timwodzynski7234
    @timwodzynski7234 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Buenos días de Guatemala 🇬🇹, this was a very interesting video 😊👍

  • @pickanotherid6646
    @pickanotherid6646 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Billy the Kid being left handed is a myth based on that tin-type of him holding the rifle by the barrel. Tin-type prints actually produce a reverse image. If you look close, you can see the loading port of the Winchester rifle appears to be on the left side. In reality, no lever action Winchester was ever made with a left side loading port.
    If you plug the picture into an image handling app and 'mirror image' it, you'll see the loading port is actually on the right side, where it belongs. And Billy's pistol is hanging on his right side.

  • @jdcustoms6663
    @jdcustoms6663 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’m born and raised in San Angelo, Tx. and have never heard this full account of these men. I appreciate your insight into the past lives and history of the world we live in!

  • @kennyhagan5781
    @kennyhagan5781 Před 9 měsíci +9

    I live in Amarillo, so I have heard many of the old stories from the rough times when the region was less "civilized ". It's really nice to see that this stuff hasn't been forgotten.

  • @-jeff-
    @-jeff- Před 9 měsíci +2

    At least in this piece of forgotten history, you weren't kidding one bit!

  • @abc-coleaks-info3180
    @abc-coleaks-info3180 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Happy to hear Pecos mentioned. Lived there when born and graduated from there. Most people confuse it with Pecos Texas but that Pecos lays at southern end of the Pecos river while Pecos, New Mexico is at the rivers head waters and is a very old village.

  • @BlackCatCoffeeCompany
    @BlackCatCoffeeCompany Před 9 měsíci +2

    Another great episode! Thank-you

  • @melissamybubbles6139
    @melissamybubbles6139 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks for the great story History Guy!

  • @reader1956
    @reader1956 Před 9 měsíci +2

    It amazes me what stories catch they eye of you and your team. Always well done. Always interesting. Thank you.

  • @BasicDrumming
    @BasicDrumming Před 9 měsíci +1

    I appreciate you and thank you for making content.

  • @edstahl9802
    @edstahl9802 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Another AWESOME video! Thank you History Guy!!

  • @roberthickerty390
    @roberthickerty390 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Another very interesting history talk. One thing I like about these is the range of topics from Old West Desperados, Chickens, Phillips Screwdrivers, etc. if it’s history it is worth talking about.
    As an aside, the movie “Old Henry” made for an interesting twist on the Billy the Kid post being “killed” by Pat Garret story.
    One of the wildest parts of the Wild West is the number of different stories supposedly describing the same incident. I suppose that is why that time period is so interesting because it is almost impossible to separate fact from myth.
    Keep up the great work. I have yet to find one of your videos uninteresting. It is amazing how much some little vignettes of history can have such profound effects.
    I think I am a Fanboy:)

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Před 9 měsíci +7

      "When the facts become legend, print the legend".

  • @raycast6277
    @raycast6277 Před 8 měsíci

    Awesome content as usual!! Tks!!

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc4178 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Forgiveness matters. Such a forgotten ideal in a world going mad at times.

  • @michael-hf7tn
    @michael-hf7tn Před 8 měsíci

    You are awesome! Thanks for such a great channel.

  • @FranssensM
    @FranssensM Před 2 měsíci

    Always some good history stories with THG

  • @r.awilliams9815
    @r.awilliams9815 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Since we're talking about the Lincoln County Wars, the story of Buckshot Roberts and the Gunfight at Blazer's Mill ought to be more widely told.

  • @terrancecoard388
    @terrancecoard388 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I will forever be amazed that the Governor, Lew Wallace wrote Ben-Hur in 1880!

  • @texasdustfart
    @texasdustfart Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent as always

  • @mattgeorge90
    @mattgeorge90 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent episode ❤

  • @stratfanstl
    @stratfanstl Před 9 měsíci +10

    One character that deserves to be remembered, if only as the partial inspiration for a Billy Joel song... From a town known as Wheeling, West Virginia / Rode a boy with a six gun in his hand / And his daring life of crime / Made him a legend in his time / East and west of the Rio Grande

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Před 9 měsíci +4

      That Billy Joel song concludes with a biographical tie-in to the compose: "From a town known as Oyster Bay, Long Island, rode a boy with a six-pack in his hand....". Good song, but I prefer Ry Cooder's version of a different song about Billy the Kid, featuring bluesy mandolin and Stratocaster slide guitar. I printed the full lyrics elsewhere in the comments, but it begins "I'll sing you a true song of Billy the Kid/I'll sing you the record of days that he did/way out in New Mexico, a long time ago/when a man's only friend was his own 44......". The slide guitar solo is absolutely sublime! Worth noting that Ry did the soundtrack music for several Walter Hill westerns such as the Long Riders, and other movies like Southern Comfort, The Border, and Paris Texas.

    • @stratfanstl
      @stratfanstl Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@goodun2974 Actually, in the liner notes to the live album Songs From the Attic, Joel says "Billy" is not a reference to him. "An exercise in cowboy movie impressionism. Totally inaccurate historically, the themes are pure east coast suburban romanticism. Elmer Bernstein shot in hot blood by the infamous Newman brothers, Alfred and Lionel, avenging the murder of Aaron Copeland. (By the way, "Billy" in this case is not me, myself and I. He still tends bar in Oyster Bay.)" BTW, the live version is THE definitive version. Phenomenal.

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@stratfanstl, interesting; I had assumed the Oyster Bay reference was about Billy J himself since he grew up on Long Island ( I grew up in Southern New England and sometimes fished the waters of Plum Gut and Peconic Bay). Anyway, the song was of course obviously impressionistic and certainly didn't follow Billy the kid's actual history. I like early Billy Joel (I even have Cold Spring Harbor on vinyl) But I didn't follow him when he became a big pop star in these days I am much more into roots rock which is why I prefer the Rye Cooter song which is based on an old folk song recorded by Marty Robbins, Woody Guthrie and many others. Texan Joe Ely has his own song about Billy the Kid ( I've seen him play with a band and with Lyle Lovett, John Hiatt and Guy Clark), as do Billy Dean, Charlie Daniels, Tom Petty, Dylan and others. Ry's song is particularly sublime, with a very short slide solo that speaks volumes.

    • @stratfanstl
      @stratfanstl Před 9 měsíci

      @@goodun2974 (smile) If you surf on CZcams, it is impossible to find a bad live performance from Billy Joel and band between 1975 and about 1983. Highly recommend Songs in the Attic. Not a bad performance on that album. I'll check into the Ry Cooder song. I'm very familiar with his reputation but not that familiar with his material.

  • @billdurham8477
    @billdurham8477 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If you are ever in central NM, spend a day visiting the sites and tourist traps, and his grave.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 Před 8 měsíci

    A terrific retelling of the deaths of "Billy's" Gang. thanks for clearing it all up.

  • @dannypgrizzle
    @dannypgrizzle Před 9 měsíci +3

    I see people making suggestions for future episodes in this comment thread. Lots of material with Frederich Law Olmsted. Also, Robert’s Rules of Order - created by an Army officer named Roberts, perhaps Army Corps of Engineers, responsible at least in part for the Galveston Seawall following the Great Hurricane .

  • @GrizzledOldBear
    @GrizzledOldBear Před 9 měsíci +1

    Very nice gold bow tie and gold/black vest.

  • @DeanStephen
    @DeanStephen Před 9 měsíci +1

    Really like the art and photo treatments.

  • @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058
    @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058 Před 8 měsíci +3

    One thing jumps out at me here. You mention the regulators and how they died by the sword, but keep in mind that most of the socalled lawmen were criminals themselves. Pat garret the ambush killer lived by the sword and he died by the sword

  • @Stephan-bj3lh
    @Stephan-bj3lh Před 7 měsíci

    History guy I love your music!!!!@!!!

  • @soci0path
    @soci0path Před 9 měsíci

    As always a great story.

  • @notahotshot
    @notahotshot Před 9 měsíci +11

    Billy the Kid was never killed by Pat Garrett, he works part time, shelving books, at my town's local library.

    • @R_Arizona
      @R_Arizona Před 7 měsíci +1

      Is the working with Elvis?

  • @Jezeppi1
    @Jezeppi1 Před 8 měsíci

    Well done as always Doc 😅😊

  • @RailfanDownunder
    @RailfanDownunder Před 8 měsíci +1

    Fascinating.... informative too as no story has been portrayed in more and different ways than that of 'Billy the Kid's by Hollywood 😊

  • @stevedietrich8936
    @stevedietrich8936 Před 9 měsíci +62

    Governor and former Union Civil War General, Lew Wallace. Also the author of "Ben-Hur".

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  Před 9 měsíci +12

      czcams.com/video/WuNCCVXV9cw/video.htmlsi=VaBt1EFlV7RH3E86

    • @robertschumann7737
      @robertschumann7737 Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@@TheHistoryGuyChannelHow about a little research on the Brushy Bill that was in Lincoln around the time Albert Jennings Fountain disappeared. Pat Garrett had several run ins with him. Could that be the Brushy Bill that claimed to be Billy the Kid back in the 1950s?

    • @joetimbrel9280
      @joetimbrel9280 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Brushy Bill was not Billy the kid. Brushy sides in 1950 which would have made him 90 years old. He looked more like 70. His niece had the family Bible that showed him being born about 20 years after Billy the kid. Pat

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  Před 9 měsíci +11

      @@robertschumann7737 there was a coroner’s jury following the shooting, and people who definitely knew Billy agreed it was his body. The Brushy Bill story requires a wide conspiracy.

    • @floridaboiwoody
      @floridaboiwoody Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@TheHistoryGuyChannelyes. Thank you.

  • @wildestthornberry3349
    @wildestthornberry3349 Před 9 měsíci

    Very nice. I wonder if you could do a video about Joshua Lawrence Chaimberlain

  • @jeremybr2020
    @jeremybr2020 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I find it interesting every time he mentions stories written in the Fort Worth Star Telegram. My dad was a sports writer for that paper for 40 years. He retired about 5 or 6 years ago. I forget though how long that paper had been around.

  • @hamish9917
    @hamish9917 Před 9 měsíci +2

    You like Pirate stories, I love true west stories. This is one of your postings I really enjoyed. (Being an "arstsy guy" I would love a posting of Russell!

  • @LittlePhizDorrit
    @LittlePhizDorrit Před 9 měsíci

    Great videos. They are like mini Ken Burns documentaries.

  • @stephenrivera4382
    @stephenrivera4382 Před 7 měsíci

    I always enjoy your outstanding presentations! I’ve been told that my Great Grandfather, Demetrio Rivera, was reputedly the best (or one of the best) barbers in Las Vegas, NM during those wild times. I’d dearly love to find out (though it’s probably impossible) if he ever shaved or cut the hair of any of those infamous characters.

  • @JonesNate
    @JonesNate Před 9 měsíci +6

    I was thinking last night; I think most people have heard about and remember the Mayflower. But I also remember hearing about the Speedwell, the ship that started sinking(?) on the Pilgrims' voyage.
    But beyond that, I know nothing about either of the two ships. When was each commissioned? What types of ships were they, aside from the obvious answer of "wooden sailing vessels"? What were the fates for both ships? (I don't even remember if the Speedwell completely sank on its way back to England, or if it was merely taking on water.)
    Seems like this would be a good video.

    • @jacquesstrapp3219
      @jacquesstrapp3219 Před 9 měsíci +2

      According to my information the Mayflower was a cargo fluyt. This was a popular ship type of the time because it had decent cargo capacity and took a relatively small crew to operate.
      The Speedwell was a pinnace which was not an ideal ship for transatlantic voyages.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 Před 9 měsíci +2

      When the Mayflour was broken up at the end of her useful life parts of her were used in the construction if a barn in England. Which is still standing.

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Back in the Saddle Again Naturally!

  • @forgingluck
    @forgingluck Před 9 měsíci +2

    I visited his grave earlier this year, interesting place.

  • @governorblack
    @governorblack Před 9 měsíci

    Catchy music! Any more info about it?

  • @Rhubba
    @Rhubba Před 8 měsíci

    Now I have the soundtrack to "Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid" in my head.

  • @williamdonnelly224
    @williamdonnelly224 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

  • @randystolz
    @randystolz Před 8 měsíci +2

    Garrett was an unsavory character himself... And Wallace was compromised by the Santa Fe Ring... from whose pov this history is written.
    If you dig a little deeper into the Kid's band of guerrillas, there's another view of this history...
    This is just one example of what later generations accept as history being written by the winners...

  • @richardklug822
    @richardklug822 Před 9 měsíci +1

    "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend"... from " The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance".

  • @robkunkel8833
    @robkunkel8833 Před 9 měsíci

    The THG title told me there should be a lot of good photos. Photography was a wonderful invention for the Wild West. This was a fun video. My fave was “a man named Jack Burke” 11:20 🍹🧢🤳🏼📸

  • @MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
    @MarshOakDojoTimPruitt Před 9 měsíci

    thanks

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 Před 9 měsíci +1

    l really liked this excellent wild west and Billy The Kid and his gang......Thank THG🎀 👍
    Old Flying Shoe🇺🇸

  • @davidmcmahon4633
    @davidmcmahon4633 Před 8 měsíci +2

    A corollary by a random thug on the street in the old City of Heroes MMORPG that I thought was fun - "Those who live by the sword, get shot by those who don't"
    Great bit of history as usual.
    Have you ever done a history of the Yellow Kid? The first newspaper comic strip sensation?

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Lol-I loved City of Heroes

    • @davidmcmahon4633
      @davidmcmahon4633 Před 8 měsíci

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel It still exists on private servers. Check out City of Heroes Rebirth and City of Heroes Unity

  • @rayraudebaugh5395
    @rayraudebaugh5395 Před 9 měsíci +2

    According to family legend told to me by my grandfather, I am related to Dirty Dave even though the last name is spelled differently (many people being illiterate spellings were often phonetic). Anyway, the story comes down from my great grandfather and his brother who both lived in Kansas at the time Dave was active there as an outlaw. While I can't definitively prove it everything I have found about Dave's early life makes it very likely that he was a distant cousin. It has been quite interesting to speculate about, if nothing else.

  • @RemyJackson
    @RemyJackson Před 8 měsíci +2

    I once considered trying my hand at writing a book where the main character is , like Forrest Gump, present during several major events during the Old West, but then I remembered David Rudabaugh.

    • @retriever19golden55
      @retriever19golden55 Před 8 měsíci

      Dan Simmons wrote a book called The Black Hills, following a Lakota man from the battle of Little Big Horn to the sculpting of Mount Rushmore. He encounters many significant events and people through his long life. Typical of Simmons' work, there are mystical elements, although nowhere near as fantastical as his science fiction works. Wonderful book!

  • @1is1
    @1is1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Please do the Tunguska Event ! 🙏
    Love your vids

  • @johnmurray8428
    @johnmurray8428 Před 9 měsíci +4

    What about the murder of John Tunstall, the kid’s friend and employer. Had he not been murdered maybe none of this would have happened and Billy the Kid would not had been remembered in history.

    • @giantgeoff
      @giantgeoff Před 7 měsíci

      If not this something else would have happened to Tunstall since he was pursuing legal action against the "The House"

    • @dnwlogisticsllc8609
      @dnwlogisticsllc8609 Před 7 měsíci

      @@giantgeoff”The House” was corrupt as hell and part of the Santa Fe Ring

  • @ewingtaylor5487
    @ewingtaylor5487 Před 9 měsíci +1

    PBS had a most interesting documentary focused on B. the K., made something more than a decade ago. Great deal of the violence was feuding between Irish and English factions, which between them, controlled about half of what is now Arizona.

  • @JVHShack
    @JVHShack Před 9 měsíci +4

    Fun fact: For those that don't know, "sandíllas" is a Spanish word for "watermelons."

  • @TheLadyWrites
    @TheLadyWrites Před 9 měsíci

    I miss the history guy on screen, but love the videos none the less.

  • @danhoffman9232
    @danhoffman9232 Před 9 měsíci +3

    The story as told by the winners. The loosers had a different version with things left out by the winners.

  • @mikeyoung9810
    @mikeyoung9810 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I grew up in the '60's with a facination of the old west from watching television shows (gunsmoke for one) and believed everything I saw. It was only after adulthood and reading about the old west did I find out that the old west really wasn't much different that now. Just men who used violence to get what they wanted and those who tried to stop them with many of them one whisker from being criminal themselves. This story , well told, is what the old west was. A violent time by often hard folks who did what they wanted often without the law to back them up. There were really no gunfights starting with a fast draw or any kind of chivalry shown by anyone as it was kill or be killed. And mix in alcohol, gambling and greed in the search for power and things often exploded into violence (quite often killing bystanders). So, not really so much different than now. Just less law. That was why it was the "wild" west.

    • @goodun2974
      @goodun2974 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Clint Eastwood's film "Unforgiven" probably comes closer to the truth than all the other Western movies.

    • @mikeyoung9810
      @mikeyoung9810 Před 9 měsíci

      totally agree. @@goodun2974

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I read that Billy was a Brooklyn NY native!🤔🗽🌁🏙️

  • @rrsmith9479
    @rrsmith9479 Před 9 měsíci

    Portales Springs Is across the road in about a 10th of a mile from my grandmother's house. My brothers used to go visit Billy the kids cave but they wouldn't let me go because of the snakes and I am a girl. What a fun video I'm gonna play It for my mother.

  • @jeffbangkok
    @jeffbangkok Před 9 měsíci +2

    Good evening

  • @mikeseier4449
    @mikeseier4449 Před 9 měsíci

    Soapy Smith indeed,.. Now there is quite a character for sure!🤠

  • @philipcoggins9512
    @philipcoggins9512 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Billy the Kid wasn’t the bad guy in the Lincoln County War…

    • @wakeup6910
      @wakeup6910 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Was you there?

    • @sharpright6887
      @sharpright6887 Před 7 měsíci +9

      @wakeup6910. Profound, defense attorneys should use that for all their cases because none of them were there. With that logic we should also throw out history too because no one was there either.

    • @wakeup6910
      @wakeup6910 Před 7 měsíci

      @@sharpright6887
      K

    • @TheMoonRulesNo1
      @TheMoonRulesNo1 Před 7 měsíci +3

      By today's definition, Billy, and pretty much every member of the gang, would be considered a serial killer.

    • @josephpickett1618
      @josephpickett1618 Před 7 měsíci +1

      You don't know that. You weren't there. Maybe he wasn't a bad guy in the beginning but then he took things a bit further than he should. History isn't always black and white. There's a Grey line there. Enjoy the young guns movies but remember Hollywood is a long way from real life. Also, ask yourself why wasn't Tom Pickett mentioned in these stories? Why was Dirty Dave Rudebaugh's nickname changed to Arkansas Dave? All for entertainment. So far as Tunstall goes... he wasn't as good of a man as he was made out to be in the movies.

  • @fubarmodelyard1392
    @fubarmodelyard1392 Před 7 měsíci

    Have you ever done an episode about soapy Smith?

    • @Richard-zc1cj
      @Richard-zc1cj Před měsícem +1

      The history guy does have an episode about soapy Smith.

  • @rogergallagher5511
    @rogergallagher5511 Před 7 měsíci

    If you run out of American outlaws, you should look into Australian bushrangers. From Black Caesar to Frank Gardiner to Bold Ben Hall to Captain Thunderbolt to Captain Moonlight to Ned Kelly, there are plenty of stories there.

  • @toughenupfluffy7294
    @toughenupfluffy7294 Před 7 měsíci

    I'd love to see THG cover the Meeker Massacre.

  • @jgt41984
    @jgt41984 Před 9 měsíci

    Do you happen to know the name of the drawing on the screen at 2:20?

  • @vinnyganzano1930
    @vinnyganzano1930 Před 8 měsíci

    It's a surprisingly short period of time but certainly full of some, more than colourful characters. Definitely more grey than black and white.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před 8 měsíci

    My favourite Bad Man was "Mysterious" Dave Mathers; who, like all the worst Bad Men, fought on both sides of the law.

  • @sirrickthe2nd583
    @sirrickthe2nd583 Před 7 měsíci

    No mention, of Bushy Bill?

  • @bertshrecengost5770
    @bertshrecengost5770 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Alas, El Chevito (spl) is put to rest.

  • @mrackerm5879
    @mrackerm5879 Před 8 měsíci +1

    and to this day, Billy the Kid has two (count'em, 2) official graves

    • @johnseawind9558
      @johnseawind9558 Před 15 dny

      Caitlin Doughty of the Ask A Mortician channel did a video covering that particular controversy.

  • @grantmo821
    @grantmo821 Před 7 měsíci

    In all the years I've read about & studied the gunmen of the old west, this is the first time I've heard a story of Dave Rudabaugh dying in Victor, Colorado. The version of him being shot by multiple assailants in a cantina in Mexico, & then beheaded by the townspeople, has been universally told in all the prior stories I've found. In that story, his killers' actions were favorably regarded for eliminating an unwanted element from the town, & his beheading meant to serve as a warning to other outlaws to keep out of the area, lest the same fate befall them.

  • @jkilby27able
    @jkilby27able Před 9 měsíci +1

    👍👍👍

  • @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058
    @corruptduboiscountyindiana5058 Před 8 měsíci +1

    what do you think of the picture that some say is billy and some of his guys playing croquet

  • @Trichocereus1
    @Trichocereus1 Před 7 měsíci

    "Yoo hoo"
    "???"
    "I'll make you famous!"

  • @constipatedinsincity4424
    @constipatedinsincity4424 Před 9 měsíci +4

    My mother's Mom while a little girl she saw 👀 Jessie James body lying in state.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Před 9 měsíci +2

    ✌️

  • @TM-ev2tc
    @TM-ev2tc Před 9 měsíci

    I like the Young Gun movies. What do you think of Brushy Bill.

  • @zephyer-gp1ju
    @zephyer-gp1ju Před 9 měsíci +1

    I grew up about 50 miles from Fort Summer, where Billy was killed. Oddly, we never heard anything about it except for the movies and books.
    I guess it is just political correctness but, the saying went, "I killed 21 men, not including Indians and Mexicans." Billy is supposed to have gotten it from the gang member that got his head cut off.
    Pat Garret would be shot and killed himself. A land owner that was a having a tiff with Garret over land claimed he shot him in self-defense but, other people say Garret was assassinated by a mad dog killer called, "Deacon Jim." Whom would be hung in Montana.
    History Guy, you might look into doing something on Pete Maxwell, the rancher that owned the house where Billy was killed.
    He at one time was the biggest landowner in the US. He owned land from N.M. to TX to CO. He basically sold it off because it was to much to manage and keep people off of. So I was told..

  • @Waterdust2000
    @Waterdust2000 Před 9 měsíci

    Bill & Ted could definitely help solve some of these lost facts, or perhaps a quick call to Doc Brown, lol

  • @tonydagostino6158
    @tonydagostino6158 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Was there anyone who didn't escape from the Lincoln County jail? Doesn't sound like it was a very secure place

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher Před 9 měsíci +2

      To be fair, western jails at the time were usually ad hoc rather than purpose built. Even when they were, their construction was restricted by the municipal budget.
      I believe that Santee of the Arizona Ghoatriders channel did a video on the subject a couple of years ago.

  • @cardboardempire
    @cardboardempire Před 9 měsíci +1

    "Pals"

  • @henryrodgers1752
    @henryrodgers1752 Před 7 měsíci

    Pat Garrett’s revolver, with which he killed Billy the Kid, sold at auction on August 21, 2021 for $6, 030,330 the highest price in history for a firearm.
    The Colt Single Action Army revolver, chambered in .44-40 with a 7.5” barrel, was originally owned by Billy Wilson, who surrender it when he was arrested by Pat Garrett, who then used it as his own. The provenance of the weapon is documented meticulously through each of its several owners.

  • @HarryWHill-GA
    @HarryWHill-GA Před 9 měsíci +3

    A good story even if there were no pirates.

    • @ZER0ZER0SE7EN
      @ZER0ZER0SE7EN Před 9 měsíci +1

      These characters were "land lubber" pirates.

    • @bobd9193
      @bobd9193 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ZER0ZER0SE7EN
      This is a stab in the dark, but being a Retired Navy 1st Class machinist mate. I have to ask.
      Is your internet name/tag, a reference to a military background?
      Such as an Enginemen Senior Chief?

    • @ZER0ZER0SE7EN
      @ZER0ZER0SE7EN Před 8 měsíci

      @@bobd9193 No, I've never been in the military. Only a California civilian. It's just a James Bond ref.

  • @robertmaez6706
    @robertmaez6706 Před 8 měsíci

    Were you a contestant on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"?

  • @joelspringman523
    @joelspringman523 Před 9 měsíci

    Henry McCarty.
    Also, Kid Antrim.