The JBP Reacts To Michael Rubin's Breakfast Club Comments That Black People Don't Support Each Other
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The black people conversation is old af honestly , race aside people only help who they like
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true and sadly a lot of black people don't like a lot black people
In sense that's true however black people don't support each other like nationalities.
Crazy y’all let someone tell your story that doesn’t look like you. Michael Rubin don’t need to speak on our culture because we just can’t freely speak on his community
You immediately get labeled anti-Semitic
Black folk be in everybody business just as much! Where’s the lie told though ? “It be your own people” is said often in the black community and yes I’m black. We love to play the race card but we just as racist. Child pls
right if we made any critique about his culture u know what would happen
@ItsJustSimpleAsThat_Ang I would be a fool to accept a critic of the black community by people who cause its problems!
But then wouldn’t that make us just as bad as them? Why would we wanna stoop down to their level
Somebody educate this dude about the Fearless Fund please. Wyt ppl actively suing this Black venture capital firm to prevent them from helping other black businesses and the local judges and district court judges have ruled against them.
Yup, by an ish
Make sure you let them know it's WHITE conservatives who are trying to block Fearless Fund. The group behind that lawsuit is led by a conservative activist who knows the courts are packed with conservative judges who will do their bidding. They also sued Harvard admission. White conservatives want to go back to pre-civil rights times. They had hundreds of years helping white people own businesses and homes but the moment a group of Black people wants to give Black women business owners grants they say that's racist.
@@jennaywilliams1024 your face is put together really beautifully
@@ajewishchristianmuslim thanks. It is very distinct lol
Thank you for this
Rubin needs to be concerned about his weird community.
Facts. His community helps promote this hatred among black people
I’m so tired of hearing people regurgitate the same ignorant stereotypes over and over again. Michael Rubin didn’t say that because he made an independently astute observation, he said it because he’s heard someone else say it, which has preprogrammed his perspective for blacks for a phenomenon that is not at all specific to them. Then here go Ish doubling down. People really need to think and research outside their own bubble, when it comes to blacks we always miss the forest for the trees.
Is it really ignorant if in fact there’s a proven pattern? 🤔
People support each other. Y’all just gotta stop expecting stuff for free from Black people.
Support my music
Thank you. Ain't no more hook up for individuals who contribute nothing or can't get right.
I think both of u are missing the point🙄🤦🏾
@@franchizeismI think they’re missing the point also but that’s like when people say if pac and big was still living jay wouldn’t be where he is smdh I wonder if people say that about Elon or bill gates
@@richardsurratte5516Elon and bill gates are in 2 different lines or work tho. But I see what you saying
Is Michael Rubin speaking on Israel Palestine genocide?
Where's the lie.....🤔🎯🎯🎯🎯💯
I was thinking the same thing
why would he? that would go against what he just said...he's jewish...his ppl are jewish. so he's going to support their cause right or wrong....are yall even listening or just typing to type lol
@@aytothemm.1035tell that to the millions of jewish people against the isreali government’s actions, isreal does not represent all jewish people and some of the biggest palestinian activists are jewish themselves, you are uneducated as hell
@@aytothemm.1035people just be typing nowadays fr
8:35 he said it’s not a black thing then continues to name nothing but black people and hip hop
I think they might be missing the point why some may be upset by what he said. The issue is not what he said but is, we aren’t allowed to make those same criticisms about their community in public and not be considered anti-Semitic.Anytime a black celebrity speaks about their community they’re forced to go on a world apology tour. Look what happened to Nick Cannon, Professor Griff, Kyrie etc. At least that’s my prospective.
Jewish people made a unique lane for themselves in society. They are a ruling group and a marglized victim group. This allow them to hold power and deflect criticism as anti semitism. If you ever listen to Anglo Christian WS they hate Jewish people because they have the advantage of using anit semitism to ruin others with the accusation.
While I agree with your statement, I thought he chose the right words to make to point and I came across as a honest observation as opposed to an insult. Also I’m glad to said it, and said it on that platform because while it was a lil hard to hear coming from a Jewish person, it put it front and center how out self hatred is seen by others.
I’m not opposed to what he said. I just don’t believe he should have been the one to say it. At least in the public eye. Also we have to be crazy to believe other cultures don’t deal with the same issues. Lastly if he field the need to say something, he should have really dug deep and discussed the systems responsible by people that look like him, for all the “self-hate” in the black community. He wouldn’t dare bring that up though.
Because black people say racist things, i don't think what Ruben said was racist
@@soda8736 what?
No. Generalizing an entire group of people when literally everybody does the same thing is wrong. If you wanna say black celebrities? Cool. But black people? No. And all of this because we was getting some jokes off on Meek. Lastly he shouldn’t be out here saying this shit. If you say or even THINK about speaking on his community, you’re going to get called anti…, lose your job, your pension, endorsements, banks, sponsors, etc. That is why he shouldn’t be speaking on this regardless
Man non celebrities tear down other people online every day. That man driving in Michigan without a license is a prime example. Nobody knew what really happened and just went in. Talked about everything from his intellect to his physical appearance. It's culture at this point. I will say, I think it is American culture not just Black culture. Although I do think Black people do it more than other groups.
@@Jrfusion08bruh this shyt happens in every culture wtf you mean 😂 thats the problem with some of yall always highlighting what the (black community) do even at some light hearted jokes and assume its a black community thing when its an entire wolrd out here of different ethnic groups doing the same shyt foh 😂😂😂 humans in general are biased creatures but somehow its only a black community thing? Every ethnic group is biased towards their own community
@@saucegodxx light hearted jokes... Ok
?? Kanye is dam near a billionaire after saying all of his people should die tf are u talking about
@@Jrfusion08 that’s my point. That’s American not black
Ish immediately loved the love to not playing Not like Us lol
The fact that Emmany just couldn't fathom the point of RESPECTING A GUEST AND FRIEND makes me look at him different
Ish is so ignorant...
Swear to God!! 💯
He don't even like black people like that. Please, majority of everyone there is of white descent.
Gives “self-hate”
I don’t like how people make blanketed statements, but don’t acknowledge historical actions. If block people don’t support each other, how exactly did we get to this point? That’s what people will ignore!
Stop making excuses
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Who cares bruh have accountability
I agree. The issue is we have to stop catering to it. Unfortunately, we can't keep supporting ignorance and have to let the lost ones fall because their parents continue to put them in disadvantage situations. We all see the ceilings but majority of black folk we see on TV don't have our best interest at heart.
Facts black ppl support each other way more than whites. They just have way more access to the chess pieces, so it may seem like it's so. If we are comparing us to Asians, Latinos, etc., folks don't realize that these ppl know exactly where they come from in their native countries. So when they immigrate to the US, they have direct contact with resources and multiple families and friends. Our communities and familial history were literally started over.
“That shit was a long time ago” is absurd.
That's that bull ISH for ya
Michael Rubin should have been speaking on his community and all of that BS that they are doing right now!
Black peoples never had a reason to hate snakes but even without the history we naturally don’t like snakes.
Bruh I can’t stand snakes!! Haha one of my biggest fears no lie 😵💫😂😂
I don’t f wit snakes but there’s a brother in Florida deep frying serpents on CZcams😂 seasoned all up Burmese python craziest sh!t ever
Religion? Christianity?
The Adam and Eve story ... before christianity the snake represented wisdom.
"Black people never had a reason to hate snakes"
The Bible.... Eve & the apple....and you know damn well black people love them some church/God 😅
Obama got 95% of the black vote...😭 Rubin should talk about some ish he actually know about. Tired of ppl, in general, talkin' about sh1t they don't know 🤦🏾♂️ Read a book Rubin.
Emanny stood on business over the bunny hop 😂😂😂
Nah Meek bunny hopping was crazy 😂 foh
It was a bet my guy
Rubin is only repeating what meek said about him being attacked on social media which was a bad play on meek
Rubin is Meek's friend. You tell your friends how you feel about things, right? The issue here is Rubin sharing their private convos. Culturally, Rubin just can't understand. But... he wasn't necessarily wrong in what he said. He just didn't realize there would be backlash in speaking up for his friends. 🤷🏾
Regardless of the messenger, what Rubin said was just plain ignorant. He surrounds himself with black athletes and entertainers, so people in the public eye like that always face scrutiny no matter what race they are. He's judging an entire culture based on some online haters.
Exactly, don't let your white privelege and status make you the spokesperson. Let Dr. Umar speak on us. Just promote your business and keep it moving.
Ice on point with his assessment of the internal trauma of our ppl. Believe it or not, all information (data) is passed on through our DNA several generations deep.
Yes, Epigenetics
So less wait another 200 years then. I guess
Why is it that everytime yall say “Black people” you’re only talking about a handful of celebrities? Stop making these huge generalizations on shit you clearly dont know enough about
We do treat each other bad
Kanye is right
Always been
People will only realise when he's gone.
Most Gemini’s are trust me
Kanye regurgitates talking points that's been said for YEARS 😂
🧐🧐🧐 right about what? The na7i's or slavery?
This is a case of right message, wrong messenger. Like Joe asked, has he said anything about what’s going on right now in Palestine? Yet you’re so invested in what’s going on in our community. Clean up your own backyard first.
Yup
It's not even the right message, it's old outdated and full of out of context holes
Nxgga he live in America and has a personal relationship with baby and meek wtf that gotta do with Israel and Palestine
Y’all didn’t play the part when Charlamagne asked him for examples in the Jewish community of what we should do & Rubin started playing a victim of how much Jews are hated. I don’t fuck with him speaking on us because he won’t speak on his own people…
Ish should just speak on the ppl around him. I know a black woman who became a millionaire and put her friends on and they became millionaires/ upper class. Generalizing all into one group is poisoning.
He's not like us.
Meek did it to himself
This convo showed that they disconnected
They are definitely disconnected. They're not even acknowledging that he should've kept that to himself.
@@peachypecan fr, even worse they're consigning it
He wasn’t wrong at all tho
@@stevenbryant8160 you can't call out blk ppl while still profiting off a system exploits blk ppl then be like "why are things the way they are". Plus blk ppl aren't monolithic
THis segement lacked so much nuiance. I feel sorry for E b/c I can tell he understood that he was outnumbered with his perspective that he didn't even bother to engage in the conversation. I wonder what Joe would have said..
Homie is just coming off a little racist and judgmental
Like his looking for something wrong
How you tell stories is amazing!
If Black ppl supported each other Dr Umar would have his school 😂🫡
Joe not being there for that discussion was the best thing for his podcast and business overall. Im not sure if he would have spoken the truth or not, but him being missing for this means more income for him and his people.
In the black community we are taught to be superstars, individuals, the lead singer. Rarely we are taught to be the team player!
Maybe in your black community. Don’t make blanket statements, it a lazy form of thinking.
This is cap. Black people were ALWAYS about community until recently.
We are taught to entertain, conform and be the background for their foreground. We can be superstars if we're performing for 'others' but notice, someone else is making most of the $ from our sweat
I'm willing to bet good money that you are a black immigrant or not black at all. Black Americans rarely spew nonsense like this.
Why's Obama get 95% of the black vote?😭
The funniest thing about the “crabs in a barrel” talk is…. Crabs don’t belong in a barrel
We not gone act like bunny hopping for masa on cam is the same for doing push ups losing a bet to the homies… are we? Bunny is in the name for a reason bruh
I agree with Emmany's and Ice's takes on this topic. Ish was getting a bit of his emotion in this argument. It comes from being in survival mode and not necessarily understanding that you are thriving. As for the success rate, Brady went through the hate as well. I think that is a people thing and not just a race thing. A lot of people are down bad and want to be up.
The moment you realize JBP is not ready to operate without Joe Budden.
It's impressive to watch four people be so agreeable with each other, considering the topic. What is happening here? 😂
How tho we tear each other down
I mean you guys are not hitting the point he wasn’t talking bout ppl working together he was talking about clowning meek and baby had nothing to fo with money and every race hate on each other jews hate on jews whites hate on whites and so on lets stop making it seems like that’s just in out race we are all ppl our views are not that different from each other’s when u really look at it in politics i see white ppl tearing each other down the same way we was cracking on meek he’s just soft and probably was telling Michael like see this what they do see u with successful ppl and now they call u gay but every race dose it
@@victortyler8159 The way folks clown Meek is not normal. The bunny hopping bet is so light, and it gets blown out of proportion so much that ppl question if Meek is in this gay cult type shit with Rubin. If Meek wasn't first black and rich, then it wouldn't be anything. Folks act like they wouldn't do it if they lost a friendly bet is lying their ass off.
@@dabeastman20 You can't just ignore his proximity to Diddy.
@@FrancoisDressler I havent even seen no evidence that Diddy has done gay shit. And i dont even think anything is gonna get in trouble from that house raid. The Cassie situation was f'd up. But what does him being friends with Diddy mean? If you were around Diddy, he could make you turn gay or something? Tbh nobody knows what's going on in their friends actual lives and relationships.
@@victortyler8159 Black folks that only see their fault in the degradation towards and not see other non-blacks don’t occupy the spaces or have the opportunity to see how people move.
@@dabeastman20 "I havent even seen no evidence that Diddy has done gay shit."
Right...
WE CAN NEVER DEFEND BUNNY HOPPING
Yes black people do. But its very important that the media doesnt show communities coming together to stop violence, feed people, and prepare kids for school.
I wanted to hear Joe Budden's opinion on this topic.
Some of the points they made were shyt because its so many variables to this conversation and to put one specific group into one category is fuckn ridiculous
The point is to contribute back. If you have MORE, give MORE. That's why Kendrick stays around in Compton, to and from. He never forgot, and kept feeding back to his community.
Robin would come at black people about hating on each other but leave out the role his jewish buddies in the music play. Don't speak on things unless you're gonna criticize the system that's put in place. He's just looking at the symptoms
Complacency breeds hate more than success, but ppl always leave that part out. Nelly, 50, Jay, Cardi (and even Drake) were putting out garbage when the audience turned on them. Those artists had the industry machine trying to force us to love their mediocrity. Same thing happening to Ice Spice rn.
Nah man there’s 0 excuse for him speaking on our problems when people like Kanye and Kyrie are threaten to lose their careers for speaking a word on their community. Y’all should be shamed for agreeing with this guy. We don’t need no white rich man to tell us that ur issues. We see their issues too but aren’t allowed to speak on them. He’s too comfortable
If Ruben said it's death con 5 on black people I think he would face some heat...
On Latham's podcast, he made a great point saying "The black race are the only people present on Americans soil who's atrocity was specifically engineered for us to work against each other for us to survive. Mr. Rubin is injecting his opinion of a 40 year history not 400 years. If he's so concerned, take his resources and give it all back. Build a stick together community center in black neighborhoods. We don't need your assistance. If the message was about to stick together, it would've been all encompassing."
I think not playing “Not Like Us” was a classy and the exact thing to do. I just think telling the story is the actual problem here.
Ppl simp for Drake bc of Kendricks impact. But dont have the same energy to "simp" for Meek due to Drakes impact. Drake is THEE sole reason why ppl no longer take Meek seriously n continuously bash him for the smallest things. But not a single person feels bad for him. But when it's Drakes turn to fill those shoes, everybody wanna protect Drakes feelings. Why yall didn't give Drake the same energy yall giving Kendrick when he changed how the world sees Meek? Pretty mixed boy privilege.
Black people are not in the NASCAR space like that 😎
Willie Lynch Syndrome💯💯💯.
The breakfast club is often a whole clown show and that's part of the reason why Yee bounced...
Once I hear “Black on Black” I immediately ignore it. EVERY RACE/ETHNICITY does the same shit you’re just not in their spaces!!! And thinking you know how black people are just because you’re around rappers and athletes is annoying
he's definitely right. but it's not his message to spread. it comes off as race baiting & tryna start shit innaa culture that ain't his.
Yeah that’s exactly it. It’s not the message itself but the problem is the messenger.
Why the hell should the messenger matter? Take the message and just do better. That sounds crazy. So if any race but black tell me “hey you should stop being a gang member and do better.” Should i say screw you, your advice doesn’t matter because you’re not black and don’t know shit about me or my culture 😂 that logic just sounds stupid
Both things can be right, most dudes were not here for black Wall street. Now how can they stop us?
I love this Melissa Ford versus her on the Jason Lee show!
Lemme guess, Ish agrees.
Maturity is accepting that Michael Rubin was right about what he said about black culture. The problem was that he said something about black culture.
Massa say y’all better behave.
Gaddafi was trying to establish a pan-African gold backed currency that would have liberated many African nations from IMF debt slavery but was taken out by western backed rebel groups. And that was in 2011, so not necessarily before a lot of people were born
Guess who was president during that time…Barack Obama. Guess who funded those rebel groups….you guessed it: Barack Obama.
No, he wasn’t. And if he he’s been dead for a decade. Why are you looking for one man to be the cure for all our problems?
@@Alwaysbelieve619 He was. It was called the African Gold Dinar. And I'm not, I'm pointing to a modern example of a Black solidarity movement being systemically uprooted
@@theEarthmanJones it’s not a money problem it’s a culture/mentality problem
@@theEarthmanJonesBlack people say those North African are not Africans , now we want to support Kadafi. Ok.
Its crazy cause ive seen all sides of this story on all financial and social levels. They all slices of the same pie.
He wasn’t lying tho. Ppl in denial and everyone wanna be offended by the comment instead of the reality so nothing changes.
People saying Kevin hart was never funny always baffled me cuz I remember when he went on that 4-5 year stretch and everyone I knew would talk about his jokes. I remember being in high school and everyone reciting “Laugh at my pain” word for word. They really do hate you when you get too successful
This is generational Goes back to slavery. Let’s stop ignoring that!! Doesn’t mean it’s an excuse but when that shi# doesn’t get addressed, it carries over generationally!
Lord forgive me for what I did with Diddy is wild. Him outside. 😅 Hopping around like a bunny and stuff.
No mention of how those same people either change for the worse or become creatively stagnant which makes them less desirable as talent.
Who cares who said it, is it true?
Shit turned into a 🦝 show. Had to turn this off. Smh
U can't handle the Accountability and Lack of blaming others huh?
Facts Ish soundin like Tommy Sotomayor 🤦🏾♂️
So did he do the same thing for Meek? That's still the question.
Ish been quiet as a church mouse the whole beef. Now all of a sudden Not playing Not Like Us is “Dope” 😂
lol! Why is this conversation happening without Joe? Was he absent that day? The level of discourse DROPS when Joe is absent. 👎🏿👎🏿
your boss joe budden said PROUDLY that he wants to see people fail black or NOT
"IGNORANT ISH" Should be his name.
Honestly had Joe been there it woulda been a battle . A duel of sorts
"Bu bu but did he speak on Palestine?" What happened to "why the hell is the U.S. worried about Palestine?"
I didn’t even wanna watch this video because I knew ish was comming in hot with the goofy shit lol
He did not notice. They had a conversation about it.
Eman wants to hear Not Like Us... 😂😂😂😂😂 Melissa saying Wiiild! like she didn't watch that interview is crazy!!!! Then she proceeds to let everyone know what he said in that interview.. Gurl Bye... 😂😂😂😂😂
Ish is delusional and he has deep seeded self hatred issues him being such a big Drake fan makes alot of sense
This conversation is bad on so many levels. Especially when opinions matter over the TRUTH.
Why does this only apply to celebrities? Why do we hold them to different standards
Micheal was 💯 correct. Y'all and that he was right. Take accountability.
Where is the Anti Semitism in that? How does these other races continue to say things like that without no consequence? If the show was on the other foot and said Jewish ppl dont support each other. They would have fined him, made him take a class and public apology. Mane if yall cant see who running thr world wake uo yall.
a true friend wouldn't have put the bunny hopping online
Bruh akademiks started that sh*t he said verbatim I’m going to destroy Meeks career and he generalized a whole culture that’s he’s not apart of and ish talking people weren’t alive during the Oklahoma massacre for example it don’t matter it happened you sound like them 🤦🏾♂️
Americans have deep love for the underdog. Ish is oversimplifying the issue. He needs to go deeper with his thoughts.
Ish is a surface level thinker.
Kevin Hart also cheated on his pregnant wife so that could’ve played a part
This conversation would go on forever it’s so many reason for these situation 8:57
People mad cuz what he’s saying is true lol.
Yo y’all act like systemic racism doesn’t exist…. Oprah Tyler Lee Russell Jay z Beyonce 50 all them getting the job done for our community now
No meek mill has been very rude and disrespectful to a lot of ppl coming up. He has been rude to bloggers, ppl who work in the labels, ppl in the industry like Vlad and others. Meek has this God/Mafia don, im a tough guy complex. The ppl he kicked on his way up are now powerful, and did not forget how he treated and spoke to them.
The issue in regards to Meek Mill is homophobia - not Black people "dissing" each other. That said, homophobia is universal, and not exclusive to Black culture. I'm curious to know if he also addresses homophobia in other cultures. But more than that if you want to address the "crabs in the barrel" mentality, that's another conversation. It's more complex than you would think and shouldn't be boiled down to just jokes and "hating."
Where the full pod at ??
I mean a perfect example of what Micheal Rubin was talking about was the whole shit with Kanye bro called out the entire industry and the elite and not one black person had his back besides Candace Owens…Candace Fucking Owens and thats just one example
You're leaving out, this after Kanye, told Black people slavery was, and agreed with Candace Owen's misinformation about George Flyod.
Candance owens is a whole clown
Ye don't support black people.
Kanye shitted on the black community though, stop leaving out details and tell the entire story. Black people had Kyrie back because he isn't a sellout like Kanye.
Man his friends told him that weirdo
This is exactly what Dr Umar Johnson was talkin about 🤦🏾♂️
If Michael Ruben was Black would this be a conversation?
S/o to my guy Nerd Nash for the”focus on yourself” tee