Submarine School Documentary - The Real Thing!
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David Hoffman - Filmmaker
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The instructor profiled in this video was my Sub school instructor. We don't get to hear his colorful vocabulary, but he was that intense. We respected him hugely, because he set high standards, demanded that we meet them, and gave us the tools we needed to succeed.
You can tell he's hardcore old navy... and I don't mean the old navy were you see the girls on the ladders hanging t shirts from the ceiling. But as in you can tell he's spent some time on a submarine, and being in an instructor position is one where he can see that the torch is passed off from himself... to the new generation fleet
He sounds like a great teacher
What year did you go to sub school in? I swear he looks familiar to me as well. I went through in April of 1981.
@@rudymarmaro I was there in the fall of 1988. He was an a-ganger's a-ganger. Perhaps you saw him in the fleet.
@@christopherhunt1957 he may have been there for a few years, but probably not that early. Yeah, he certainly reeks of A ganger. I knew many of that sort. Loved them.
He said " To the point where there's going to be times when you think you are serving on that submarine with all your older brothers and all your uncles". Absolutely true, that is indeed what separates us from the skimmers.
There's a whole lot more that separates us from them. I served on boomers for 12 years with back to back to back patrols approaching 90 days underwater at a time. Skimmers would never even begin to make it.
@@rrrogster Our patrol cycles were 110 days. Turnover, refit, reftra was usually about 100-101 days on patrol during late 80's, early 90's. Those day's sucked! Out of Holy Loch Scotland.
I remember; We had a very experienced crew, we all had already earned our dolphins, Skipjack crew, my first time in the DC trainer. I was phone talker right in front of that flange, it almost knocked me down, the instructor said we set a new record, quickest repair he had seen... Dolphins are earned!
In 1984-85 I think. While waiting on my sub to return from the med, I helped do a battery replacement on the Skipjack.
We just did this trainer today and i was the Phone Talker. CAN CONFIRM 🙃. Damn flemming leak nearly threw me against the deck plates and nocked my headset off, almost lost them 😅. 10/10 would not recommend standing where the phone talker stands.
@@mrmelkor8262 Seems like a common theme 😅 I was the phone talker today in the trainer and the same thing happened to me lmfao
Just rebuilt it. Me gonna be sonar!!! Down periscope!!! Velat yells. Prepare for dive!!! And I throw it down all the way. Broke it 🤷♂️
I remember being the phone talker in the DC Wet trainer many months ago, when the flange hit me, it blew my phone talkers right off lmao
I entered subschool in November 1997. My time on submarines was some of the best times of my life.
I was in the sub school class group before this was filmed. Sorry I never got a chance to meet you, David. One of my friends who had failed a grade was put back, made it into the film.
Groton, spring 83.
So glad to have found this, there is no way to describe the wet trainer when people ask, this gets kind of close. Love that they show the instructors intentionally nailing the trainees...
I'm a former Marine tanker (M1A1), and I've been to combat three times. That being said, I would never in a million years feel comfortable getting into a submarine and diving to depth. The thought scares the hell out of me for some reason. Even when things are going great, submariners are basically trapped in a steel tube under the water. I'm all set with that.
It wasn’t too bad. Haha. USS TOPEKA SSN 754. Machinist Mate. I didn’t reenlist but I wouldn’t take back my decision to join subs either.
@Doug Parker Fort Knox, obviously? What year?
@Doug Parker i was there end of 2003. Seems like forever ago.
Best food ever! Best bed ever! Best crews in the world! Neverending training and endless drills. Lots of movies and ice cream. Oops, also neverending impending feeling of death. Fire or flooding, or other. We trained constantly. Submariners are top 2% of the US Navy in training and top scores. Best of the best!
Not sure I'd want to be a tanker but.... the M1A1 Abrams is the best in the world! I'll take my rack, food, and movies thanks.
@@timavery99 not many good sleeping spots on a tank. They're as hard as depleted uranium (lol). We only got ice cream when we got to a nice airforce base (when we were deployed to iraq). That being said, I'll take the uncomfortable sleeping situation over being underwater any day.
Regardless, we should all be happy that we got out when we did. The military has become too politicized, like everything else nowadays. The Corps doesn't even have tanks anymore.
That water pressure on the thumbnail can cut off your hand like butter.
Gosh I remember doing that damage trainer like yesterday. God what fun! Time is a vapor, when did I get so old...
This is the best, most legendary submarine documentary and it is starring the man himself, Tom Clancy. How better you can get? US Navy was at its peak in the 80s.
You can still buy it at Amazon. It is called Submarine: steel boats steel men.
spearPYN Steel Boats Iron Men. The COB on Rickover MMCM Honaker was my COB on 759
The US Submarine Navy is still at its peak certainly as far as personnel goes.
Tom Clancy? Fool knew nothing about submarines or crews.
My dad served aboard the USS Hyman G Rickover in the '80s. I'm here because I asked him if we had simulators for patching hull breaches, and he told me to look this up, haha.
Man, I have no idea how these guys do this. I wouldn't be able to climb into one of those metal tubes for weeks and months on end. Takes a very, very steady mind to handle this all.
Just went through DC Wet an hour ago. It's good to see that it hasn't changed much over the years! ~.~. Recommend not being the Phone Talker lol
That guy was a good instructor. I went through the wet trainer in '85. He barked at me like he barked at that kid. When all was said and done he praised me for the job I did being a team leader. As truth has it, those skills learned back then did help me immensely when facing casualties, both during drills and during real casualties, at sea, on a boat. You truly needed to trust your shipmates and have confidence in their abilities in order to survive out there. When you are down in the depths of the ocean, you will also be surprised at what kind of inner fortitude you have buried deep inside of you to survive. Being a brother of the fin is the greatest of Naval honors. I'd do it all over again.
I remember the water being cold as all hell. Don't remember how we did it but we were lucky enough to patch her up the first time.
Did they tell you that at depths around 500 ft the pressure behind water from burst pipes can cut a man I half
Bone and everything
@@andrewbacon7042 They know, thats why submarines like steam engines have several valves so they can isolate pipe leaks. Now hull leaks, thats an diferent cat. An significant hull leak at such depth can only be solved by surfacing.
December 1980, 18 years old. Damn this brings back some old memories.
ET2/SS Horowitz was my submarine school instructor.
Brings back old memories,,,🤦♂️ 1977- 17 years old. [from San Antonio Texas!
Just so the casual observer knows, this is cold, stinky sea water. These sailors are not enjoying a warm shower, they are working through pain.
Things brings back so many memories. The wet trainer was a blast. Scary, but we were all trained and executed training. Team building and confidence building for sure.
USS Finback SSN 670. I miss those men. We were family and I hope they know how much I appreciate them. And yes, the water in the trainer was ice cold!!!!!!
I served onboard Finback from 80' - 84'!!!
@@mikerush3729 Hey brother. I served 89' to 93'. She was a good ship with a great crew. She always brought us home! Thank you for your service brother.
I got a black eye when a water stream hit me in the eye... in 1974
Men have lost their vision permanently from that. You were very lucky.
My dads cousin worked in the navy on subs
Navy Submarine and Flight Deck Crews get little recognition we deserve. ABE 3 one upon a time.
Seriously comparing yourself to a submariner? Flight decks are dangerous but huh?
Aircraft carriers get ALL the attention!
Good memories. I was a RM "John Walker" tech. 23CQ. They no longer have that rating anymore but I knew my equipment and knew my boat. I wasn't a plankowner but they used to call me one.
Took a look at Sub school in Groton went there after IC A School in San Diego 1972....I looked over the USS Drum I had orders to report aboard after Sub school... in 1973 or so in San Diego...after learning more about sub duty and their time down I passed on it sad to say so much time underwater did not seem like my thing...Much respect for those that did....I ended up on the Connie CVA - 64 and 2 tours off Nam and over into the Indian Ocean with shore leave in Pakistan first War ship back over there in almost 30 years.. Honorable Discharged Jan 1976 Bremerton....looking back now .... I SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN !.....lol....Mark W.....
Beautiful writing and beautiful thoughts, Harvey. Thank you for sharing them.
David Hoffman - filmmaker
There's a huge leak sir! Tighten the bolts like they teach in submarine school... Works every time.
Not only are they being judged professional but they are being filmed so that everyone can see… add on top of that the simulated fear of drowning… my god the stress.
I leave at the end of the month
This is terrifying and awesome
Hopefully my experience as a plumber pays off.
Good luck
Godspeed
I can't believe it's been 20 years since I was there.
Ahhh, the good ol' days.
That guy is MM1(SS) Keith Swoleau (sp). Great instructor.
I was there in December 1988. I had MM1(SS) Hartenstein for my instructor.
BRINGS BACK MEMORIES!!!!!
Flooding trainer. lol I was part of the last team to go in and we loaded up our pants with extra chain wrenches etc. The instructors saw that and opened up ALL the leaks. We were up to our chest in water when they stopped and asked if we had enough. We said HELL NO! We were up to our chins when we got the last one.
I remember when I went to sub school we didn't have to March into class.
Ah the drills. Never ending. Sticking the pen in the EAB so the air would flow and you could take a nap...
WOW! This takes me way back. Does anyone miss the flooding and the long ass stairs????
LOL
Crazy to see how much Bledsoe Hall has changed
i'm going to basic training january 3rd and after that i'll be going to groton connecticut for submarine school
expect a bit of holding man
What fun! 1984. Great experience.
I did sub school in winter. Cold as fuck! Loved Groton though. Sub base was a blast. Then off to Holy Loch Scotland where it rained sideways and also cold as fuck!
Brings back memories...…
Best fuckin job I ever had. Just us in the boat. #SSN706 fire is the worst!! Actual casualty and the crew shows up!!
This brings back a lot of memories lol.
Thank you for standing watch beneath the surface Gents. I salute you. DDG-54
We were told there is outer 🚀 space and inner space skates. Damage control was tough fighting to save the boat. We did both fire fighting drills and shoring up leaks it was cold, wet but fun. We come unseen is very apt. Respect peoples. RN class 62. Once Navy Always Navy. Trips up to Ivan's place in Baltic and so sad when Kursk went down and the sinking of Admiral Belgrano. On our remembrance we
Excellent video! You can tell immediately that this MM1(SS) instructor is a great submariner, leader, and, sailor...he's been in the navy for fourteen years and still has red chevrons; and, he has no Good Conduct ribbon! :D This simply means that he's a Maverick (doesn't go with the flow)! Someone who cares more about his men, his boat, his life, and, his job, than he does about pleasing officers and douchebags. I.e. - Steve McQueen in "The Sand Pebbles!" Love that guy! :)
I'm not sure having no good conduct medal after 14 years of service is something to be proud of...
That's why you don't stand out and why no one will ever remember you. You're one of millions of sheep herded by dogs and fed to pigs!
Mavericks are remarkable! They stand out...people remember them!
Sorry, but I've been there, being a good leader and receiving a good conduct medal is not mutually exclusive
I have no idea what Navy you guys served in. In the U.S. Navy I served in for 10 years we played hard and we worked hard. Sure, we dd our fair share of bellyaching about officers because that 's what sailors do. But we were close knit as a crew and a lot like family. When we went on patrol it was serious business. Your life depended on everyone else and their lives depended on you. Anyone who was undisciplined and couldn't cut it got canned to a skimmer, and I saw my share of guys sent to the surface fleet because they were not fit to serve on a submarine crew. I can pretty much guarantee you that the MM1 in the video is not an instructor because he routinely sticks it to officers and "douchbags." I was an instructor at U.S. Naval Submarine School for four years in the late 1980s. The building on the left at 0:21 is where I taught advanced electronics troubleshooting and repair.
@@dprite1 That especially applies to submariners. Don't be so quick to judge especially if you haven't been there yourself.
he is officer material maybe even admiral-Adm Vesser(commander )
GO NAVY ! Groton, CT
I just remember the submarine escape training/how to escape/"Steinke hood" donning/ Escape...!!
I remember it fogging up and collapsing on my face. lol
asked if I could go again got 50 push ups instead
I'm happy that we never had to use it.
After all these years the dive-and-drive is exactly the same
i loved the water trainer me and my friend had to go under the deck plate with the wood cone then the one we called the best in the corner of it ice cold water it was fun the most fun there 2017
Wow! That’s Beautiful.
Remember and light candles for all I say all submariners past and present. BZ guys. Keep the faith.
I went to BESS. And Radio A-school. Served on the San Francisco.
Looks like everything has been moved off Create Space. Anyone know where the full verse might be viewed?
www.amazon.com/dp/B0001LQL6A
I remember the Coast Guard across from lower base. NAVY RULES!!!! I'm sad to say, Coast Guard ate better (on base) WE ate better at sea hehehe
50% graduation rate is considered a success
"marc dont call me poindexter"--" carp you are poindexter"
Remember the Kursk. Our brothers did it for real and did not make it back.... So sad.
Ha! I remember going through these trainers in sub school and A school back in 97. I wonder if they are still the same ones nowadays or if they have new and improved technology.
they are pretty much the same.
We have similar tastes
I went through it in 77 looks like the same.
Mike Thompson went through in 82 SSN621 83-86
I went through in 2012 and they added some smaller leaks to the flooding trainer. One beneath the deck plate that you had to get to fast.
He was my instructor when I went thru BESS
"marc you can be my wing man, my fin man-"no carp you can be my wing man'
Been there, done that!
Anyone remember the escape tower on the lower base before the fire ??
Tim Holme
Yes I do. Served on 571 boat.
@@rickgillis1335 Hi,
I worked on it at EB. I worked at for 43 years. EN-3
Hell yea. Scary as hell to me but I did it.
Tim Holmes You bet! I was a lifeguard before I went in, so the free ascent was great fun. The real challenge was the entry chamber stuffed with 2 more guys than it was designed to hold, and then they started equalizing pressure and filling it up to your chin with water! They said we would have to do it again in a year or so, but we never did.
@@joesubmariner9693 My dad knew the greats. Some the guy's boats have street named after it on the base. Dad served 1938 - 1958.
Here right now, great place so far
the guys good better than we were at his age-Admiral(commander)
Shipping out in July. machinists mate auxiliary!!
Just did this trainer today at submarine school, my new rate is torpeomans mate getting to my boat in a couple months here
The flooding was called away in the TR but he said it was in the ER, pull yourself together dive.
I had to call it out during my wet trainer and they made me call it out in the engine room, not sure if it's the same situation there with the time gap between me and them but just an fyi lol
"Submariner" is not pronounced correctly throughout. Since when has a submarine been called a Ship, they're called boats by crew
Is that Tom Clancy with the dark glasses on near the beginning of the video??
Sure is.
RIP to a legend. Just finished reading Red Storm Rising and October back to back
@@gt4666master SSN is a great book too. The first Clancy I read was Without Remorse
@@Ronsta229 Do you read any of Clive Cussler's books? Some of them are pretty acronym-heavy, just the way I like it ;)
@@gt4666master Apart from Tom Clancy and Tom Sharp, I don't really read a lot of fiction. I need to get out more lol
Where can i find and watch the rest of this documentary?
czcams.com/video/7Qt7dyhB-jg/video.html
David Hoffman thank you sir!
I get so nervous whenever we have a fuckin seawater leak lol shit is scary man
My boat just always leaked.
The Navy calling in the Coast Guard??? Meh.
It's happened quite a bit.
and thats in a well lit training enclosure so imagine what its like when your 400m down working in a tight dimly lit part of the sub thats leaking badly.......i would shit my pants. you need a certain head to hold it together and wahtever they pay those guys its not nearly enough serving inside a long tin can with the enemy only a few inches of stell away.
Why do Navy Chiefs alway say, "Let's stick it to them!"?
Anybody say "turn on the drain pump?"
Sub School Class May 1977 They're marching WTF?
On high intelligent people being desired. Its the same in the air force for nuclear weapons technicians. Even law enforcement looks for these people.
The issue is, if the job does not consistently mentally challenge these people. They burn out quickly.
It happened to me working on the ICBM war heads in the WSA and in the foeld out at FE Warren.
The police forces can not keep these guys very long. They just become insanely bored. And they see the massive falts in the system, and they leave
This is why many police academies have started using a cap on high intelligence while having no such cap on how low a person's intelligence can be. And we see the result of this practice daily.
Is that Tom Clancy giving his professional opinion?
I thought I was going in 96 for (I forgot what I think san diego medical), then they just simply told me "you will be a submariner", I had no choice it was not voluntary. How they know how smart or not smart I was, I don't remember but was there a different test than the entry ASVAB? I've always been curious why I was sent to Groton. I didn't have time to ask lol.
Sorry pal....bullshit. VOLUNTARY....your'e full of shit.
@@zeero62 I'm being sincere when I ask this, I'm a former Marine and I know nothing about submarines. So being a submariner is voluntary only? They can't force you into it?
@@CommonCentrist82 When I went in 2003, it was voluntary. It also came with a signing bonus!
@@CommonCentrist82 yes that’s correct. In order to qualify for your sub rate you have to sign for voluntary sub duty, you do this either when you go to MEPs or at boot camp (I believe).
marc standing knee deep in water u me n the guys " this cant be healthy" hazard duty pay buddy
Wow. All I could do is point at the screen and laugh. The wet trainer was an epic no win- as it should have been. Seriously though, Sub school and A school were most excellent programs. Rm2/SS 89'-95'. Cudos to the First class MM instructor. Boomer and fast attack qualed telling it like it is.
You said it "and epic no-win". Also, we never marched in formation when I was there in 83. The streets were too narrow, and most of the buildings were on a hillside....
@@zeero62 we lived in wooden barracks went to school on the side of the hill next to the brig, and the only formation was for the class picture!
how old are these docs???
Tom Clancy.
i wanna see feminists going though this training
I went through BESS. Best thing I went through. It made me a Man
All brave blokes, no way in hell would you get me on those tin cans.🇦🇺🇦🇺
'carp you were offered a chance to go to officer and the navy will pay for college its a good opportunity you should take, i know I'am"
"--"marc i have a kid and fiancee i cant take the pay cut of going back to college
bi-nary joke "im zero and you are my number one
If I ever told my planesman we were going to PD with a flank bell I wouldn't even be mad if one of them turned around and slapped the shit out of me.
Groups fail 1st time always. Teams win champs. No parades
Damn, that's pretty cool. Too bad nukes don't go to sub school.
Its no wonders you guys are so damn grumpy.
They did in 1971.
they did in 68 Damn cold water in the flooding compartment. Always wondered how they got it so cold in summer.
This is an old video.
marc becuase im zero and you are my number
B.E.S.S. B.E.R.T. UNDERWATER FIRE CONTROL SCHOOL (guns) ft(g), non commission officers school-- remember marc
For the umteenth time....submariner NOT submareeener.
Are you saying SUB-Mare-aner. Served 23 years on the boats. We called ourselves submariners, not SUB-mare-aners. A sub-mare-aner is someone beneath a mariner. To each his own but I will always be a submariner. That is a person who goes to sea on a submarine.
@@stevefarris9433 I learned that my first trip down the ladder and I find myself correcting those who never dove all the time.