especially when their stories aren't even part of the demo. Some times it's just filler, like shut up and lets listen to the act. People don't go to air shows for the announcer...
@@gravityfuzz Indeed, they truly are lucky to have the privilege of piloting those incredible feats of engineering. The F-35A Lightning II is my favourite 5th Gen fighter jet and I’ve watched many of it’s displays … several in person. However, I have to say that this is the most conservative performance I’ve ever seen regarding the F-35’s manoeuvrability (which has been demonstrated in the past to be phenomenal considering it’s lack of vectored thrust). Edit : Seems like Capt Melanie Kluesner was lacking the “MACH” element on that day.
Thrust vectoring gives the F-22 an edge for sure, but the F-35 pilot was pretty conservative in his routine. Nowhere near it’s limitations and not indicative of it’s capabilities. Edit : I’ve never been to a twilight show. That’s one for the bucket list.
like comparing a wr to a qb tho. in an ideal battlespace the f-35 is just handing off and throwing to his weapons. both planes are incredible in their role.
Eh, early demo flights when they first established the F-35 demo team were absolutely unreal. They’ve dialed them back massively for some reason, in spite of getting the Block-3A variants w/ full 9g limits since then.
This is a great video- however, if you’ve never seen the F22 demo in person, you really should make an effort to do so. The maneuvers that plan can do almost defies gravity. It’s an awesome plane.
The 22 just looks Unfair in the skys... Air Dominance. Though the 35 has some CAPABILITIES that make it that as well. These two and a gaggle of 15EX's... Yeeeeesh!💪🇺🇲💪
@@gw8278 The F-22 is huge when flying next to the F-35A and in comparison to the F-35A is beginning to show it’s age aesthetically. Those massive vertical stabilisers on the F-22 are disproportionate in size.
I was fortunate enough to be there to watch it live. Coolest thing I'll probably ever see! Videos will never do these aircraft justice, but this comes very close!
I saw this in person, it was an unforgettable performance. Seeing the F22 Raptor at full afterburner in this lighting is insane and you feel it in the chest.
Thank you Spencer for the video's we just had our air show here in Anchorage Alaska July 20,21 The Thunderbirds had a awesome airshow F35,and F22 perform all so would like to say thanks again and all who serve past and present next air show will be the Blue Angels in 2 year's
Lugo is the best narrator imho. And also everyone on the Demonstration team treated me like family. Being from Iowa is pretty special considering RaZZ is as well. I'm gonna be honest im super biased that the F22 is the best demo team.
Yeesh! That digital video stabilization makes me feel like i'm having a stroke. It's like, the most rapid stop motion animatronics on video. My eyes feel like they're rapidly shifting side to side. Other than that, the video isn't bad.
Great cam quality and great shots however I would say some perspective is needed in the shots. Exp: high speed past is at 300 AGL. Definitely low enough to the ground to get both the jet and landscape so you can have a point of reference to the speed
The F-22 having 2 Thrust Vectoring Nozzles that work independently of one another, as well as its' HUGE Rear Vertical/Horizontal Stabilizers, allow for it to be capable of Dog-Fighting. I think we can all agree that the F-22 is still dominant when it comes to close quarters air battles, which is just so sexy. The F-35 is just so High-Tech you won't see it before its already shot you down.
Actually, the F-22 only has limited 2D TVC (thrust vector control) enabling the thrust exiting both engine nozzles to simultaneously move up or down only. They don’t work independently of one another, aren’t controlled by the pilot directly and aren’t even true vectored thrust manoeuvring nozzles. Rather, their operation input is part of the flight systems control and the thrust is simultaneously directed either up or down by moveable paddles within both engine nozzles. Edit : To me, this makes the astonishing manoeuvrability of the F-22 even more impressive considering that it does not have 3D true thrust vectoring nozzles, nor nozzles with the ability to move independently from one another.
@Virvum_Juggernaut I was unaware that the engines did not work independently of one another!? Or, that the pilot did not control their angle. Thank you for that useful insight. I agree that even still: The F-22 with its higher speed capability, larger rear stableizers, providing it the ability to perform high energy attacks, as well as low-speed meneuvers, makes it a better dog fighter. The F-35 is, admittedly, not made for speed or dog-fighting, but instead made for long-distance reconnaissance, the ability to perform VTOL for quick take-off and landings, stealth (of course), and finally the ability to carry Nuclear Ordinance... Edit: F-35 is Scary in it's own right
@@SethingtonIII Being the smallest, fastest and most manoeuvrable of the 3 variants (i.e. A, B & C) the F-35A Lightning II is actually my favourite 5th Gen fighter jet and equi-favourite jet in concert with the SR-71 Blackbird. I love the compact design of the F-35A (looks superb from every angle), love the sound of it’s P&W F135 afterburning turbofan engine and love it’s performance capabilities of multi-role, air superiority, stealth and being the most lethal, yet survivable fighter in the skies to date due to it’s systems connectivity with the ability to think for itself and share the data with other aircraft, along with advanced sensors which allow it to track enemy aircraft long before they even know the F-35 is there. It has 360 degree situational awareness and the ability to conduct attacks electronically. Not to mention the pilot’s insanely cool $400K helmet which allows the pilot to see through the entire aircraft and enjoy an uninhibited 360 degree external environment view without having to tip the jet because it renders the aircraft’s outer frame invisible to the pilot. It has it’s own Head Up Display inside the visor (instead of mounted in the cockpit) so no matter where the pilot is looking, all the data is in front of his eyes. It also has built-in visor projected night vision. I also find it’s manoeuvrability astonishing considering it has no vectored thrust capability. Edit : BTW I wasn’t attempting to be rude or a smart ass by clarifying elements of the F-22 earlier, it was simply obvious that you’re informed aviation-wise and so I presumed you’d welcome the info. Have a good one Seth! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@Virvum_Juggernaut I was simply trying to get a conversation going about the aircraft. I'm offended... that you think I am offended in any way 😄. I love talking about aviation, and these 5th gen fighters in particular. I'm just a sucker for nostalgia and I will always (like most aviation buffs) keep the F-22 close to my heart even though the F-35 is superior to a point that it does not need to "Dog Fight" anything. It is simply too advanced... Honestly, I didn't even get to talk about the SR-72, and it's Ram Jet Engines 😅. Thanks for the conversation and insight!!
Great, simply gorgeous airplanes, Spencer! My mom and i are airshow fans and we love any aircraft, especially fighter jets! My mom likes F35 and i love F22!! ❤❤
These next-gen fighters are super sleek, stealth, nimble, with hidden weapon bays. But there is just something intimidating about F-14, 15, 16, and 18s loaded to the teeth with missiles on the wings. No one will mess with the US of A!
That F35 engine is massively powerful but it’s also a heavy plane. The F22 comes out on top from a thrust to weight ratio and initial rate of turn and sustained high-g turn persoective.
Just remember the F22 has never been showcased at performance limits air speed,maneuverability and service ceiling. This aircraft in its performance has never been fully demonstrated
That’s largely a myth, I’ve talked to one of the demo pilots for a bit - there are maneuvers they’d rather not show, but peak-performance is limited by the pilot. The stuff they want to hide isn’t BFM stuff, it’s stealth / avionics etc. I was incredibly lucky enough to have ‘Loco’ invite me over the fence to see the Raptor up close. I could literally crawl under it - only rule was I couldn’t actually touch it. The primary weapons bay is HUGE. I also noticed a lot of stuff he couldn’t elaborate on lol. There’s a separate string-line around the aircraft where you aren’t allowed to take photos, but I didn’t care - it was still the coolest thing ever.
Can anyone explain the green reflective strips on the vertical stabs? I figured it was a port/starboard navigation thing like the lights, but it’s green on both sides.
F22 is no doubt noisier, but seemingly not quite as capable in it's overall high-performance flying routine, vs say, the EF Phoon displays seen at RIAT...
Speaking of thrust and cool fast stuff, the new Corvette ZR1’s twin turbo flat plane crank Gemini V8 produces about 40lbs of static thrust from the exhaust system. Under full boost as the wastegates are fully open it actually produces a constant afterburner like flame. The Corvette engineers said it exits above the speed of sound under certain conditions as well. Meaning you might actually see some Mach diamonds form. I don’t care who you are, that’s cool right there.
I wonder why the F-35 has a more powerful engine than the variants in the F-22. If the F-22 had the same engines as the F-35, it would probably be as fast as me-the Mig-31. And, I can hit Mach 3 for a short period of time.
No, that's not how that works. First of all, there's only one engine variant in/for the F-22: the F119-PW-100. Secondly, the F-35's F135 engine was based on the F119 engine that powers the F-22, but it was not designed/made for the Raptor and doesn't fit inside the Raptor's engine bays. It was specifically designed for the F-35's needs. Thirdly, like with most other modern fighter aircraft, the reason why the Raptor can't go all the way to Mach 3 has nothing to do with the engines themselves. They can't reach Mach 3 or even "only" Mach 2.5 due to limitations in the ability of the intakes to deliver good quality stable subsonic airflow to the engines (which they need even at supersonic speeds in order to function properly) and also because the materials used in the airframe structure can't handle the heat generated at high supersonic speeds (they will literally melt). In the specific case of the F-22, the jet can't fly at speeds any higher than circa Mach 2.2 simply because during the ATF program there was never a USAF requirement for the F-22 to be able to fly faster than that (and there was never a requirement for that because they obviously knew what I'm about to tell you below, and more). That allowed the designers to develop an aircraft that had much better flight performance at all others speeds below Mach 2+ and better low observability than one if they had been required to give it Mach 3 capability. Mach 3 means the jet would have been much heavier and certainly not VLO (Very Low Observable aka stealthy), because: 1) you have to go with a full metal construction (can't use composites) and not just any kind of metal. It has to be unique alloys of titanium or steel that can handle the sustained extreme temperatures that flying at those speeds generate on the aircraft. The YF-12/A-12 and SR-71 Blackbird were mostly titanium, and the MiG-25/MiG-31 used mostly steel for example. This much reduced selection of materials that are available for a Mach 3 class aircraft means it would have been much heavier and much harder to make it VLO to radar and keep the weight down. 2) In order for the engines to do their job without any problem a more complex and heavier air intake system with moveable intake ramps that control the supply of airflow to them is required. Not only that leads to an heaver aircraft, it also makes it more costly to build and mantain and possibly harder to make it stealthy. 3) They would have been required to basically bury the cockpit as much as possible in the forward fuselage like you see in the YF-12, A-12, SR-71, MiG-25 and MiG-31 which would limit pilot visibility. And for the canopy they would have to use some kind of expensive plastic and glass combo material that offers much higher strength at high temperatures than normal canopies on fighter aircraft, but at the cost of worse optical qualities and higher weight. Finally, it would only make sense to develop an aircraft capable of Mach 3 flight if you also give it the fuel necessary to actually be able to use that capability in combat. Typical/normal fighter aircraft are not big enough to carry enough fuel to make that mach 3 speed capability useful (assuming one could actually design a normal fighter sized aircraft with Mach 3 speed)... A normal sized fighter by the time they would reach Mach 3 they would be low on fuel and would have to RTB asap. A Mach 3 capable fighter aircraft would need to carry a huge amount of fuel which in turn means big and massive size, meaning a lot of weight which leads to worse maneuvering performance for example. So, all of the sudden we have a MiG-25/31 type aircraft which basically, just like the MiG-25/MiG-31 is barely a fighter aircraft, at least not in the the traditional sense of the word.
the best part of this is the lack of an announcer yapping non stop, the jets sound gorgeous
exactly and no annoying music! lol
especially when their stories aren't even part of the demo. Some times it's just filler, like shut up and lets listen to the act. People don't go to air shows for the announcer...
amen
@@Topgunphoto right😭😭
Exactly….Let the jets do the talking
I was lucky enough to be here, it was unreal!!! A must for any aviation fan.
Spencer, I've been watching your videos for a decade at this point. Thank you for your high quality videos! They're always the best.
These guys have to love what they do... like showing up to a car show with the greatest cars ever made, no matter what else is entered!
“Like showing up to a car show with the greatest cars ever made” and showing off the best driving skills ever seen. Great analogy man.
These birds border on spaceships to most people. Melanie Mach and Sam RaZZ have awesome names. You are lucky pilots.
@@gravityfuzz Indeed, they truly are lucky to have the privilege of piloting those incredible feats of engineering. The F-35A Lightning II is my favourite 5th Gen fighter jet and I’ve watched many of it’s displays … several in person. However, I have to say that this is the most conservative performance I’ve ever seen regarding the F-35’s manoeuvrability (which has been demonstrated in the past to be phenomenal considering it’s lack of vectored thrust).
Edit : Seems like Capt Melanie Kluesner was lacking the “MACH” element on that day.
The 35 is a beast but the 22 is just a different animal the thrust vectoring is wild
Watching the two demos back to back, the difference in maneuverability between the two planes is stark.
Thrust vectoring gives the F-22 an edge for sure, but the F-35 pilot was pretty conservative in his routine. Nowhere near it’s limitations and not indicative of it’s capabilities.
Edit : I’ve never been to a twilight show. That’s one for the bucket list.
@@Virvum_Juggernaut her*
like comparing a wr to a qb tho. in an ideal battlespace the f-35 is just handing off and throwing to his weapons. both planes are incredible in their role.
@@G0KU_BLACK_EDITING My bad : Sorry Melanie!
Edit : That explains the “conservative” aspect of the routine then lol.
Eh, early demo flights when they first established the F-35 demo team were absolutely unreal. They’ve dialed them back massively for some reason, in spite of getting the Block-3A variants w/ full 9g limits since then.
This is a great video- however, if you’ve never seen the F22 demo in person, you really should make an effort to do so. The maneuvers that plan can do almost defies gravity. It’s an awesome plane.
The 22 just looks Unfair in the skys...
Air Dominance.
Though the 35 has some CAPABILITIES that make it that as well.
These two and a gaggle of 15EX's...
Yeeeeesh!💪🇺🇲💪
Twilight shows are the best
For real! I missed the Twilight show last year.
Is anyone else impressed with how long the F-22 was on afterburner?
the raptor can hold burner for a lot longer than people think!
The 22 can hold after burner till it runs out of gas 😅
its your tax dollars at work.
@@johncast9565 Is that true? Are the airshows basically government sponsored?
@@ouilsen2 Even if they are, people gotta stop cryin about the military using money.
The compact F-35A Lightning II is stunning from every angle and I love the sound of their P&W F135 engine. Beautifully shot Spencer.
I'd say that about the F22, gorgeous against the pudgy F35
@@gw8278 The F-22 is huge when flying next to the F-35A and in comparison to the F-35A is beginning to show it’s age aesthetically. Those massive vertical stabilisers on the F-22 are disproportionate in size.
The f-22 in full afterburner gives me goosebumps every time I see it. It never gets old.
I was fortunate enough to be there to watch it live. Coolest thing I'll probably ever see! Videos will never do these aircraft justice, but this comes very close!
I saw this in person, it was an unforgettable performance. Seeing the F22 Raptor at full afterburner in this lighting is insane and you feel it in the chest.
F-22 is the Beauty and the Beast! Her take off with the thrust vectoring is just breath taking. Thank you for this amazing footage!
As a Brit I'm proud we have have F-35B, and Typhoons, but F-22 ... Wow!
bro....the filming quality...15/10!! Most claim 4k, but this IS 4k. Seriously one of the best quality airshow videos I've seen.
Had to miss this years EAA AirVenture. Thank god for spencer's video!
First time at Oshkosh. This F22 was loudest thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
The lighting was perfect for capturing the afterburners! I wasn't so lucky when I saw those demos in Louisville and Smyrna. Both were great shows.
Thank you Spencer for the video's we just had our air show here in Anchorage Alaska July 20,21 The Thunderbirds had a awesome airshow F35,and F22 perform all so would like to say thanks again and all who serve past and present next air show will be the Blue Angels in 2 year's
Très belles images et très belle lumière.
Bravo monsieur.
Eric de France.
Beautiful machines but that Raptor is insane. Incredible footage!
Seeing this in person was amazing
Wow. Thanks for the upload!
Spencer! Been watching you for YEARS! No way you were there and I didn’t get to meet you!!
Awsome! Super sad I had to miss this
Just back from RIAT. Have to say the Raptor demo may very well be the only missing piece of that air show. You guys are lucky🎉
Was waiting for this video
This Demo is INSANE. Best ever watched
Did Oshkosh in 2019(year of the fighter). Was the best air show I’ve ever seen. And I didn’t get to see the twilight show, because my bus left at 7.
Lugo is the best narrator imho. And also everyone on the Demonstration team treated me like family. Being from Iowa is pretty special considering RaZZ is as well. I'm gonna be honest im super biased that the F22 is the best demo team.
You are not biased. F22 Raptor IS the best demo team. Nuff said
BTW. Met Razz at an airshow Seymour Johnson AFB, N.C. Awesome young man!
@@ronthomas352Hey whatever you say man😅
@@ronthomas352Yeah, takeaway his flight suit and you wouldn't know if he's a pilot or not.
Once again, stellar videography.
3:51 here is STARSCREAM!!!
This video alone was worth a follow 👏
I lived in Utah and somewhat near Hill air base, the sound the F35 makes is very unique almost like a whine
Fantastic display of US Air power. Bravo to both pilots
Has a combined F-22 and F-35 demo ever been done before?
I've never seen one before until now, I go to all the Florida shows.😭
Happened at my local airshow. California International Airshow.. no idea if there is any video. It was absolutely awesome
@@ezra620 Oh awesome, when was it?
What a show it’s been
Great camera work!
holy shit!!!unreal footage
This is a reference for sure! Awesome filming!
F22 is completely Shredding shredding the air with those pratt whitney f119. The sound of the air from those engines is something crazy..
They had to be right on the verge of going sonic several times......that cloud forming around the plane.
Yeesh! That digital video stabilization makes me feel like i'm having a stroke. It's like, the most rapid stop motion animatronics on video. My eyes feel like they're rapidly shifting side to side.
Other than that, the video isn't bad.
Man, this is stunning. Great vid!
The f22 is a beast
I was watching for the F-22, I said, "Where is it?" I got to the end of the video and it flew upside down above me and took my picture.
Nicely done Spencer! Shot on the 705? The sharpness and clarity is incredible.
Thanks! Nope XF400!
@@spencerhughes2255 👍
Great cam quality and great shots however I would say some perspective is needed in the shots. Exp: high speed past is at 300 AGL. Definitely low enough to the ground to get both the jet and landscape so you can have a point of reference to the speed
sensational, that raptor sure is king of the skies
You mean the Raptor that recently got whipped by a French Rafale? Sure.
I absolutely love the F35… and of course the F22
Dang! I wish i coulda seen irl!
Imagine being the guy that has the figurative keys to one of these birds. What a feeling.
The F-22 having 2 Thrust Vectoring Nozzles that work independently of one another, as well as its' HUGE Rear Vertical/Horizontal Stabilizers, allow for it to be capable of Dog-Fighting. I think we can all agree that the F-22 is still dominant when it comes to close quarters air battles, which is just so sexy. The F-35 is just so High-Tech you won't see it before its already shot you down.
Actually, the F-22 only has limited 2D TVC (thrust vector control) enabling the thrust exiting both engine nozzles to simultaneously move up or down only. They don’t work independently of one another, aren’t controlled by the pilot directly and aren’t even true vectored thrust manoeuvring nozzles. Rather, their operation input is part of the flight systems control and the thrust is simultaneously directed either up or down by moveable paddles within both engine nozzles.
Edit : To me, this makes the astonishing manoeuvrability of the F-22 even more impressive considering that it does not have 3D true thrust vectoring nozzles, nor nozzles with the ability to move independently from one another.
@Virvum_Juggernaut I was unaware that the engines did not work independently of one another!? Or, that the pilot did not control their angle. Thank you for that useful insight. I agree that even still: The F-22 with its higher speed capability, larger rear stableizers, providing it the ability to perform high energy attacks, as well as low-speed meneuvers, makes it a better dog fighter. The F-35 is, admittedly, not made for speed or dog-fighting, but instead made for long-distance reconnaissance, the ability to perform VTOL for quick take-off and landings, stealth (of course), and finally the ability to carry Nuclear Ordinance...
Edit: F-35 is Scary in it's own right
@@SethingtonIII Being the smallest, fastest and most manoeuvrable of the 3 variants (i.e. A, B & C) the F-35A Lightning II is actually my favourite 5th Gen fighter jet and equi-favourite jet in concert with the SR-71 Blackbird. I love the compact design of the F-35A (looks superb from every angle), love the sound of it’s P&W F135 afterburning turbofan engine and love it’s performance capabilities of multi-role, air superiority, stealth and being the most lethal, yet survivable fighter in the skies to date due to it’s systems connectivity with the ability to think for itself and share the data with other aircraft, along with advanced sensors which allow it to track enemy aircraft long before they even know the F-35 is there. It has 360 degree situational awareness and the ability to conduct attacks electronically. Not to mention the pilot’s insanely cool $400K helmet which allows the pilot to see through the entire aircraft and enjoy an uninhibited 360 degree external environment view without having to tip the jet because it renders the aircraft’s outer frame invisible to the pilot. It has it’s own Head Up Display inside the visor (instead of mounted in the cockpit) so no matter where the pilot is looking, all the data is in front of his eyes. It also has built-in visor projected night vision. I also find it’s manoeuvrability astonishing considering it has no vectored thrust capability.
Edit : BTW I wasn’t attempting to be rude or a smart ass by clarifying elements of the F-22 earlier, it was simply obvious that you’re informed aviation-wise and so I presumed you’d welcome the info. Have a good one Seth! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@Virvum_Juggernaut I was simply trying to get a conversation going about the aircraft. I'm offended... that you think I am offended in any way 😄. I love talking about aviation, and these 5th gen fighters in particular. I'm just a sucker for nostalgia and I will always (like most aviation buffs) keep the F-22 close to my heart even though the F-35 is superior to a point that it does not need to "Dog Fight" anything. It is simply too advanced... Honestly, I didn't even get to talk about the SR-72, and it's Ram Jet Engines 😅. Thanks for the conversation and insight!!
Great video. Well done.
So Awesome. Thanks for This ! 👍👍
Fantastic US aviation in action.
High quality video as usual❤...how dou you keep up with the jet
Great, simply gorgeous airplanes, Spencer! My mom and i are airshow fans and we love any aircraft, especially fighter jets! My mom likes F35 and i love F22!! ❤❤
These next-gen fighters are super sleek, stealth, nimble, with hidden weapon bays. But there is just something intimidating about F-14, 15, 16, and 18s loaded to the teeth with missiles on the wings. No one will mess with the US of A!
God Bless America 🇺🇸 🫡🦅
Bela apresentação com ambas aeronaves demonstrando suas poderosas afterburners.👏👏👏👏👏👏
That F35 engine is massively powerful but it’s also a heavy plane.
The F22 comes out on top from a thrust to weight ratio and initial rate of turn and sustained high-g turn persoective.
I mean, it’s 14,000 pounds lighter than the raptor. Has quite a bit of ass.
Wow!
3:24 The original Dojo drift was more aggressive
I went on Saturday and didn’t get to see either of these fly ): But I did get to see the growlers and 3 harriers take off. Not as cool though
F22 is the most beautiful man-made bird in the skies.
After seeing the F22 Raptor demo at the Fargo Airsho today I'm not even sure I understand how planes work anymore.
F-22 has matured a lot since its debut. It looks just as modern or more so than the F-35.
I was their with my bsf for his birthday got a clip of the unrestricted takeoff the F-22 did
low celling amazing
Just remember the F22 has never been showcased at performance limits air speed,maneuverability and service ceiling. This aircraft in its performance has never been fully demonstrated
That’s largely a myth, I’ve talked to one of the demo pilots for a bit - there are maneuvers they’d rather not show, but peak-performance is limited by the pilot.
The stuff they want to hide isn’t BFM stuff, it’s stealth / avionics etc.
I was incredibly lucky enough to have ‘Loco’ invite me over the fence to see the Raptor up close. I could literally crawl under it - only rule was I couldn’t actually touch it. The primary weapons bay is HUGE. I also noticed a lot of stuff he couldn’t elaborate on lol.
There’s a separate string-line around the aircraft where you aren’t allowed to take photos, but I didn’t care - it was still the coolest thing ever.
very good❤
🤩👍 In Twilight is it Wunderbar!
Can anyone explain the green reflective strips on the vertical stabs? I figured it was a port/starboard navigation thing like the lights, but it’s green on both sides.
Superb !!!!
God the Raptor is such a sexy aircraft
SIR?
That's one big pipe coming out of the F35.
How much more portly the F-35 looks. Raptor was the apogee of modern fighter design if you ask me.
Such a fantastic engine on such a shyt plane 😭
What is the difference between 35a,35b and 35II and also 22?
Literally sounds like rocket.
F22 is no doubt noisier, but seemingly not quite as capable in it's overall high-performance flying routine, vs say, the EF Phoon displays seen at RIAT...
WHEN!
f22 right engine has always more power, look at the difference of the afterburner flame length
cool not just me!
This question is for all the airplane freaks.
What is the possibility of the Air Force upgrading the F-16 with newer engines?
First and nice jets
Speaking of thrust and cool fast stuff, the new Corvette ZR1’s twin turbo flat plane crank Gemini V8 produces about 40lbs of static thrust from the exhaust system. Under full boost as the wastegates are fully open it actually produces a constant afterburner like flame. The Corvette engineers said it exits above the speed of sound under certain conditions as well. Meaning you might actually see some Mach diamonds form. I don’t care who you are, that’s cool right there.
What video camera are you using?
Dude out here on ascotter around Billion dlr figthercraft
Amen to no announcers. Letting tje planes shine.
Camera?
I wonder why the F-35 has a more powerful engine than the variants in the F-22. If the F-22 had the same engines as the F-35, it would probably be as fast as me-the Mig-31. And, I can hit Mach 3 for a short period of time.
No, that's not how that works.
First of all, there's only one engine variant in/for the F-22: the F119-PW-100.
Secondly, the F-35's F135 engine was based on the F119 engine that powers the F-22, but it was not designed/made for the Raptor and doesn't fit inside the Raptor's engine bays. It was specifically designed for the F-35's needs.
Thirdly, like with most other modern fighter aircraft, the reason why the Raptor can't go all the way to Mach 3 has nothing to do with the engines themselves.
They can't reach Mach 3 or even "only" Mach 2.5 due to limitations in the ability of the intakes to deliver good quality stable subsonic airflow to the engines (which they need even at supersonic speeds in order to function properly) and also because the materials used in the airframe structure can't handle the heat generated at high supersonic speeds (they will literally melt).
In the specific case of the F-22, the jet can't fly at speeds any higher than circa Mach 2.2 simply because during the ATF program there was never a USAF requirement for the F-22 to be able to fly faster than that (and there was never a requirement for that because they obviously knew what I'm about to tell you below, and more). That allowed the designers to develop an aircraft that had much better flight performance at all others speeds below Mach 2+ and better low observability than one if they had been required to give it Mach 3 capability.
Mach 3 means the jet would have been much heavier and certainly not VLO (Very Low Observable aka stealthy), because:
1) you have to go with a full metal construction (can't use composites) and not just any kind of metal. It has to be unique alloys of titanium or steel that can handle the sustained extreme temperatures that flying at those speeds generate on the aircraft.
The YF-12/A-12 and SR-71 Blackbird were mostly titanium, and the MiG-25/MiG-31 used mostly steel for example.
This much reduced selection of materials that are available for a Mach 3 class aircraft means it would have been much heavier and much harder to make it VLO to radar and keep the weight down.
2) In order for the engines to do their job without any problem a more complex and heavier air intake system with moveable intake ramps that control the supply of airflow to them is required. Not only that leads to an heaver aircraft, it also makes it more costly to build and mantain and possibly harder to make it stealthy.
3) They would have been required to basically bury the cockpit as much as possible in the forward fuselage like you see in the YF-12, A-12, SR-71, MiG-25 and MiG-31 which would limit pilot visibility.
And for the canopy they would have to use some kind of expensive plastic and glass combo material that offers much higher strength at high temperatures than normal canopies on fighter aircraft, but at the cost of worse optical qualities and higher weight.
Finally, it would only make sense to develop an aircraft capable of Mach 3 flight if you also give it the fuel necessary to actually be able to use that capability in combat.
Typical/normal fighter aircraft are not big enough to carry enough fuel to make that mach 3 speed capability useful (assuming one could actually design a normal fighter sized aircraft with Mach 3 speed)... A normal sized fighter by the time they would reach Mach 3 they would be low on fuel and would have to RTB asap.
A Mach 3 capable fighter aircraft would need to carry a huge amount of fuel which in turn means big and massive size, meaning a lot of weight which leads to worse maneuvering performance for example.
So, all of the sudden we have a MiG-25/31 type aircraft which basically, just like the MiG-25/MiG-31 is barely a fighter aircraft, at least not in the the traditional sense of the word.
Schöner Sound,aber Dein Gewackel mit der Kamera bekommt von mir eine glatte 6 !
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no heritage flight? Interesting
There was one with all 4 demo planes a few hours before during the day show. That video will come soon.
F35 said "runway? what's that?"
11:57 was the F-35 pilot female? Cool
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5:58 It must be extremely dangerous for these pilots to fly over slightly "sloped roofs with a high peak at the top".
Where no roofer would dare!...
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That's why they have ejection seats
no on one heard of the plane that entered the airspace and got intercepted by an f35
Credit aaron reihns