I just love to see Murphy Himself. Especially in the combo at 02:47. It´s from Stockholm 1990 and I was there, and those fences where HUGE!! Most of the horses took at least one stride in between, but Murphy bounced it!!
If you check the footage of Murphy Himself at 2:47... I could be wrong, but I believe that is a one-stride combination that he "bounced" (left out the stride)....ridiculous athlete and amazing ride by Ian Stark
I went to a Mark Todd Selects show last night at Gleneagles....he is just amazing & even more impressive to watch him working his magic in the flesh...It was a great night....
murphy is (or was coz hes dead) a half bro of my horse an iv been looking for footage of him for ages so thank you so much :D i hadda copy of thrills an spills yrs ago on VHS but forgot murphy was on it- tho as well i didnt have my horse at the time so tho i always loved murphy i appreciate him more now coz i wanted to look closely to see if he goes like my horse... if al that makes sense lol :)
@TheLahlexis Murphy was known for going best when he was allowed to have his head. If you'll look at some of the other clips from the series, you'll notice that Ian does not ride Sir Wattie with the same length. Also, keep in mind that many of the jumps seen here are drops, thus (temporarily) requiring a longer rein than flat-jumping.
Saw Sir Wattie and Nightcap both get their fronts hung up trying to add there... so unless they added with too big a stride, it was made to be a bounce.
eventing back then seems so much more thrilling, some of the combinations that they did were so cool looking like the horse at 2.21 down that steep hill and over the jump before the hill even stops, i wish eventing was still like this
The dimensions havent changed at top level. Now the courses are more technical, with twisting lines and skinnys that you would have never seen back in these days. But, like I said courses have changed, now they are so mind bogglingly busy with technical combinations and twists and turns, i think horses loose concerntration, contributing to the high rate of rotational falls we are getting. Anyone agree? Those days the stronger you rode the better you got on, now its a very different case.
1:01 makes me grin :D. Ginny sees her 4 strides and presses, and just look at the way that Priceless tucks his back end up and reaches over the ditch with his front legs. :-) i must have commented on this vid a million times, but each time i find something new to marvel about. 5*s I subbed x x :D
I wasn't there, I've just seen more than one horse attempt that obstacle. And yes, there were a few total flips, there and elsewhere. I have some bad ones in the water-whipeouts vid. I also have some dry (non-water) ones, but some are a little violent despite the horses all being able to get up, so not sure about posting them.
How many deaths this year have we had to no avail? Though there was a stir after a death at Belton I believe it was, where a number of riders commented on a combination that killed a well known local rider after the striding wasnt certain (either 3 big stds or 4 short) on flat ground. There were also manicins on the fence, making it confusing, spooky and distracting for horse and rider. Im starting in eventing myself, and the frequency of tragidies leaves an unsettling chill about the sport.
Amazing, that was brilliant! The trust the person must have and same with the wonderful animal beneath him! I want to do 3 day eventing later on in life! I LOVE HORSES!
I agree with your comment about 'technical questions into something that's supposed to be done at a gallop' Maybe thats the problem now. the big, bold simple fences, it asked quite simply "whos got the balls" and you rode strong and commited or you didnt stand a chance. Now with so many technical questions at the same speed, its presenting more tragedies and problems. Do course designers need to cool it down with the technicality and promote positive forward riding with fences that ask that?
...dang, that was quick-- I didn't even know that this vid was up yet, much less have enough time to edit the horses' names! Anywho, I'm guessing you mean the combo at 02:12? Or the one immediately after it? Either one is incredible!
loved this video thankyou for uploading it :-) Its amazing to see how cross country has changed, the Badminton 2008 was a bit of a return to the old days with some more galloping fences, but I think it might do some good to have a bit of the essense of the old tracks back, cross country has got so un-natural, I think we need some courses to encourage "Riding by the seat of your pants" like Mark Todd amply demonstrates. Horses have become to reliant, and maybe riders need to be more impulsive?
nice video ... i went the the ian stark clinic at galway downs..... ha my friends were right ... he is know 4 making people fall! but hes an amazing trainer... btw does anyone know of any good eventing places in Southern California?
Wow - sounds like you were there!! How exciting! I guess the other risk is flipping over on the landing (of the drop) if you bounce it in any sort of unbalanced manner... Great riding still...
@TheLahlexis do you mean rein or reign. He had a long reign (as in time) on MH because he was a phenomenal horse! MH took a long rein (leather thongs attached to the bit you use for steering) because he was always a strong forward going horse that Ian trusted with his head as ImmortalSynn mentioned below.
...I'm at a loss as to how you could POSSIBLY ~not~ know, considering that the horse's name is mentioned several times in the clip, and I have it written all out in the ----wait on it---- "MORE INFO" box for this video. LOL
No, it's not. Other horses who tried to add a stride into that combo got in too deep and had their front legs tangled-- which is NOT what you want to happen on the high side of a drop jump!
Granted I don't keep up with eventing to anywhere near the extent I do with jumpers... I realize there's been some equine tragedies, but unfortunately, I was of the opinion that it'd take a few (more) human ones to really drive the issue home :(
So is that first rider Mark Todd? He's New Zealand's most famous rider ever! And Charisma our most famous event horse ever! The little horse that could. Pity he's dead now :(
Indeed. However, if that feeling becomes too pervasive... then scroll on over to the MORE INFO box, and click on the video "Fixed Obstacle Faceplants" THAT should take care of that feeling, nice and quickly ;)
oh man, xc looks like fun! but I ride dressage, and I haven't jumped in 8 years or so, so I'd probably fall on my face just cantering downhill or something . . . But I wish I could do it!
Does anyone else see some of Murphy Himself in Nicola Wilson's Opposition Buzz? They aren't exactly similar but both horses are in a different league when it comes to xc, I don't think there is a horse as good as Buzz doing the tracks right now. . . and like MH he would probably bounce everything possible!!
Holy moly, yes! I know exactly what you're talking about and now that you mention Murphy, I can see the likeness in Buzz. ...and I'm replying to a post that was left here ummm, 6 yrs ago, lol! Ha ha
...actually, he was 15.3, had looked it up earlier. Unless you were speaking of a specific year, then that height does not qualify him for that "title".
Easy answer: Yes, they should. Will they? Who knows-- unfortunately, it may take a tragedy to get them to dial it down on the technicality, and get back to the test of athleticism.
Oh no i meant human tragidies, i havent heard of many equine recently, and regretably many talented young athletes are dying. All this nonsense about fragible pins, you wouldnt need them if riders insured their horses were fit at the lower levels aswell as higher, and courses were not so littered.
I just love to see Murphy Himself. Especially in the combo at 02:47. It´s from Stockholm 1990 and I was there, and those fences where HUGE!! Most of the horses took at least one stride in between, but Murphy bounced it!!
Ooooh, yeah. at 2:51, Murphy bouncing that road...
Unforgettable! Thank you for posting, my old VHS tapes are toast :)
Always great to see Murphy! He was amazing :-)
Murphy's bounce at 2:49 is the stuff of legends !
I got this on VHS from when it first came out, 19yrs ago... never seen the DVD, didn't even know they included dressage in it.
If you check the footage of Murphy Himself at 2:47... I could be wrong, but I believe that is a one-stride combination that he "bounced" (left out the stride)....ridiculous athlete and amazing ride by Ian Stark
Fantastic!! you forget what the old courses were like! Not aying I could or would want to do them now, but they were much bigger and impressive!
To me, this represents the era when crosscountry separated the big boys&gals from the babies... I wish it'd go back to this!
Murphy himself was a stunning horse.
very amazing! at 2:58...holy crap!
I went to a Mark Todd Selects show last night at Gleneagles....he is just amazing & even more impressive to watch him working his magic in the flesh...It was a great night....
Nah, I appreciate the admiration for them... I found (the way) eventing (was) to be much more interesting back then than it is now.
I don't think anyone could have possibly ridden those questions better & more masterfully than Ginny did. A class rider all the way!
murphy is (or was coz hes dead) a half bro of my horse an iv been looking for footage of him for ages so thank you so much :D
i hadda copy of thrills an spills yrs ago on VHS but forgot murphy was on it- tho as well i didnt have my horse at the time so tho i always loved murphy i appreciate him more now coz i wanted to look closely to see if he goes like my horse... if al that makes sense lol :)
@TheLahlexis
Murphy was known for going best when he was allowed to have his head. If you'll look at some of the other clips from the series, you'll notice that Ian does not ride Sir Wattie with the same length.
Also, keep in mind that many of the jumps seen here are drops, thus (temporarily) requiring a longer rein than flat-jumping.
Saw Sir Wattie and Nightcap both get their fronts hung up trying to add there... so unless they added with too big a stride, it was made to be a bounce.
eventing back then seems so much more thrilling, some of the combinations that they did were so cool looking like the horse at 2.21 down that steep hill and over the jump before the hill even stops, i wish eventing was still like this
my goodness cross country jumping has changed.
Mark Todd is a legend!!
Indeed.
It truly says something about his athletic prowess, when his name STILL equates to "excellence", some 20yrs+ later.
ian stark at 2:50 onwards was really well done, the horse stretched so far to jump that hedge!!!
Welcome. And yeah, would agree with your points raised 100%
The dimensions havent changed at top level. Now the courses are more technical, with twisting lines and skinnys that you would have never seen back in these days. But, like I said courses have changed, now they are so mind bogglingly busy with technical combinations and twists and turns, i think horses loose concerntration, contributing to the high rate of rotational falls we are getting. Anyone agree? Those days the stronger you rode the better you got on, now its a very different case.
1:01 makes me grin :D. Ginny sees her 4 strides and presses, and just look at the way that Priceless tucks his back end up and reaches over the ditch with his front legs. :-) i must have commented on this vid a million times, but each time i find something new to marvel about. 5*s I subbed x x :D
No. I have clips of Master Craftman, but he's not in these. These are all Priceless, except for one, which is Nightcap.
GREAT VIDEO!
I wasn't there, I've just seen more than one horse attempt that obstacle.
And yes, there were a few total flips, there and elsewhere. I have some bad ones in the water-whipeouts vid. I also have some dry (non-water) ones, but some are a little violent despite the horses all being able to get up, so not sure about posting them.
Indeed, he was amazing... with multiple riders too, which detailed his talent.
absouletly love it! i expecially LOVE the water combo at 1:50!
So glad Toddy found a horse that made him come back to eventing, we have a lot to thank Gandalf for!
How many deaths this year have we had to no avail? Though there was a stir after a death at Belton I believe it was, where a number of riders commented on a combination that killed a well known local rider after the striding wasnt certain (either 3 big stds or 4 short) on flat ground. There were also manicins on the fence, making it confusing, spooky and distracting for horse and rider. Im starting in eventing myself, and the frequency of tragidies leaves an unsettling chill about the sport.
Wonderful montage, perfect mix of good and bad! :)
Have several vids of Nightcap too... but they're all bloopers!
Amazing how much he and priceless looked alike though.
Amazing, that was brilliant! The trust the person must have and same with the wonderful animal beneath him! I want to do 3 day eventing later on in life! I LOVE HORSES!
Bingo. Easy to distinguish them as well, as Nightcap's star is far larger.
I agree with your comment about 'technical questions into something that's supposed to be done at a gallop' Maybe thats the problem now. the big, bold simple fences, it asked quite simply "whos got the balls" and you rode strong and commited or you didnt stand a chance. Now with so many technical questions at the same speed, its presenting more tragedies and problems. Do course designers need to cool it down with the technicality and promote positive forward riding with fences that ask that?
Ah yes! The good old days when horses had / got to run and jump!
These clips are from the Thrills & Spills collection
'Preciate it.
Curious as to whether you stick to the equestrian videos, of if you've also sampled others such as the Mythic Warriors and PJs series?
...dang, that was quick-- I didn't even know that this vid was up yet, much less have enough time to edit the horses' names!
Anywho, I'm guessing you mean the combo at 02:12? Or the one immediately after it? Either one is incredible!
loved this video thankyou for uploading it :-) Its amazing to see how cross country has changed, the Badminton 2008 was a bit of a return to the old days with some more galloping fences, but I think it might do some good to have a bit of the essense of the old tracks back, cross country has got so un-natural, I think we need some courses to encourage "Riding by the seat of your pants" like Mark Todd amply demonstrates. Horses have become to reliant, and maybe riders need to be more impulsive?
As stated in the info box, this is part of a series... some clips are spills, others are thrills (as is this one).
...the riders and horses are listed, in order, in the description box for this video.
Interesting claim... what was the height on that one?
i think that horses asre the most amazing amimals in the world to do the aspects that they are tought
nice video ... i went the the ian stark clinic at galway downs..... ha my friends were right ... he is know 4 making people fall! but hes an amazing trainer... btw does anyone know of any good eventing places in Southern California?
Late 80s, not all clips were filmed at the same event.
Because the horse is built on the forehand, and performing drop-jumps... standard procedure for those circumstances. ;)
@jai13086 SO very true of performance horses of all ilks asked and willing to perform at the peak of their ability. Amazing hearts! Amazing horses!
...not horrible, just astonishing inattentive. :)
AMAZING
Where was this??
The clips are from the "Thrills & Spills" series... some (like this) are Thrills, some are Spills, some are both.
No prob... though, curious-- what's "weird" about it?
Wow - sounds like you were there!! How exciting! I guess the other risk is flipping over on the landing (of the drop) if you bounce it in any sort of unbalanced manner... Great riding still...
No, it was supposed to be a bounce. Horses that tried to put in a stride there got their legs caught up.
@TheLahlexis do you mean rein or reign. He had a long reign (as in time) on MH because he was a phenomenal horse! MH took a long rein (leather thongs attached to the bit you use for steering) because he was always a strong forward going horse that Ian trusted with his head as ImmortalSynn mentioned below.
...I'm at a loss as to how you could POSSIBLY ~not~ know, considering that the horse's name is mentioned several times in the clip, and I have it written all out in the ----wait on it---- "MORE INFO" box for this video. LOL
No, it's not.
Other horses who tried to add a stride into that combo got in too deep and had their front legs tangled-- which is NOT what you want to happen on the high side of a drop jump!
Granted I don't keep up with eventing to anywhere near the extent I do with jumpers... I realize there's been some equine tragedies, but unfortunately, I was of the opinion that it'd take a few (more) human ones to really drive the issue home :(
amazing :)
soo proud, my horse is in close relations with Priceless and ginny's other horse, night cap!!!!!!!
Indeed, he was amazing.
IINM, Priceless never once had a fault on CC during his time with Ginny. I'm 99% sure that was the case.
FROM 00:46 TO 1:42 WAS AMAZING!!!!! really gd riding=)
So is that first rider Mark Todd? He's New Zealand's most famous rider ever! And Charisma our most famous event horse ever! The little horse that could. Pity he's dead now :(
Indeed.
However, if that feeling becomes too pervasive... then scroll on over to the MORE INFO box, and click on the video "Fixed Obstacle Faceplants"
THAT should take care of that feeling, nice and quickly ;)
oh man, xc looks like fun! but I ride dressage, and I haven't jumped in 8 years or so, so I'd probably fall on my face just cantering downhill or something . . . But I wish I could do it!
clz?
Nope, not that either.
Jappeloup de Luze was less than 15.2, and he competed (and medaled) in the 1988 Olympics.
i have no idea how they do that. if i pointed my horse at those jumps im pretty sure id be flung off his back in a heartbeat
@Emily2whisper
Welcome :)
spliced clips, mostly of Badminton, some of Burghley.
Does anyone else see some of Murphy Himself in Nicola Wilson's Opposition Buzz? They aren't exactly similar but both horses are in a different league when it comes to xc, I don't think there is a horse as good as Buzz doing the tracks right now. . . and like MH he would probably bounce everything possible!!
Holy moly, yes! I know exactly what you're talking about and now that you mention Murphy, I can see the likeness in Buzz. ...and I'm replying to a post that was left here ummm, 6 yrs ago, lol! Ha ha
@ginnie321
welcome :)
...actually, he was 15.3, had looked it up earlier.
Unless you were speaking of a specific year, then that height does not qualify him for that "title".
Easy answer: Yes, they should.
Will they? Who knows-- unfortunately, it may take a tragedy to get them to dial it down on the technicality, and get back to the test of athleticism.
Spliced mix of Badminton and Burghley
Wow
Ah, I see... well, they're in the profile, check 'em out :)
@ShameAndBlame you would be fine
....where's the bad??
looks less harder than nowadays
* 2:48 not 2:58*
why not bounce the road eh! haha
Oh no i meant human tragidies, i havent heard of many equine recently, and regretably many talented young athletes are dying. All this nonsense about fragible pins, you wouldnt need them if riders insured their horses were fit at the lower levels aswell as higher, and courses were not so littered.