Why do Pros TILT their keyboard?
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2022
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There are pros out there - or sick freaks, as we like to call them - who tilt their keyboards to a degree that is, quite frankly, unacceptable.
To a more untrained eye, this looks ridiculous and painful.
But, apparently, some people swear by tilted keyboard setups.
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The thing about symphuny’s upside down keyboard is that there is no advantage of saving space or reaching keys easier, it’s just a fun way to break your wrist.
nah bro he's just trying to be different
@@jordsn_l nothin but the truth
@@jordsn_l trying too hard begging for attention is what he is doing
Technically nothing is better than the other since the distance between the keys are still the same it might be placebo
@@Neighbour1 nah it’s not placebo, it genuinely makes it easier to press other keys with your thumb, plus u get more mouse room
Man's gonna freak out when he hears about 60% keyboards.
my thoughts watching this video lmao
i have a 60% and I have all the space in the world
my friend had a 65% keyboard and he still does this 💀, he said it just felt more comfortable when he's going on competitive lobbies. as for me, im just a casual rpg game player so i've never tried those stuff.
I have a 60% keyboard and I tilt it at 75 degrees😂😂
what's wrong with tilting? especially on tac shooters when you need to crouch or walk more often. it's literally way easier to press shiftl or ctrl.
I have a 60% keyboard and I can literally do 720° in one swing
I do tilt my keyboard a little bit but completely vertical is crazy 💀
Lemme explain so my keyboard sits at about 11o clock I broke my hand a couple times so I have no tendons in my finger fr so they can stretch I can hit every key perfectly that way up until like g I use every key to the left of g
@@ajairose6268who asked/cares
@@anu7599I care
@@anu7599I care
Frr
That’s nothing. I play with my keyboard glued to my ceiling while I stand on a ladder.
Crazy af
Mines a toilet seat
Me too
I can confirm that the vertical keyboard idea works best on laptop
Lmao
with a TN panel display💀
@@ishlight3772 ud be playing on a black screen💀💀💀
Upside down would be best just like sym
Hey thanks. Just got a 20 bomb on apex because of this.
Back in the olden days, when you wanted to go to LAN parties, you had to bring your pc and monitor, where you had to play in a limited table space. That meant that you had to make as much mouse space as possible by turning your keyboard vertical.
what this dude said 👌
Yep. Was searching for this exact comment.
as u said. monitors were huge back in the days and you couldnt fit ur keyboard horizontaly if you wanted to sit close (been to over 15 different dreamhack LAN's 🥲)
How was this not mentioned in the video??
@@exile4474 my child, you must know something. TheScoreEsports likes to use clickbait and not answering questions, because it generates views, it creates drama, it leads to money.
A 45 degree tilt is right on the sweet spot
Yes
Faxx
I like in the middle of 45 and 90 about 67.5 -70 degree tilt
I’m more of a subtle 15° kinda guy
@@wet0wlrespectable
Many pros tilt their keyboard because back in the old days in LANs there wasn't as much desk space and they needed to adapt.
only real OG´s know!
None of the dudes shown in this video are old enough to have gone to a lan party
@@osnofa__they are old enough, most of the pros shown in the video were in LANs.
Desk weren't ready for this work💪🏽
@@evnatusYea, doubt it
It's people that haven't been loved as child, so they unconsciously hug their keyboard as a trauma response 🤪
they still make more money and still play better and more relevant than you tho
@@iforsakengt6958 I cannot deny
@@ariel_chess dont worry we're all in the same boat
Subconsciously
@@joshuaadams7091 Sorry, english is not my first language. Is it grammar error or a spelling mistake?
I remove my whole setup entirely so i have as much room as possible
Omg good idea
Real ones have their keyboard on the floor playing it with their feet
hahahahahah
One guy actually beat Minecraft while doing that lmfao💀💀
The last one left me hanging 😂
It got me dead 💀
* ba dum tss *
If only it did for real
Get these guys 60% keyboards 🗣️
Thats what i did
@@bredsandwich yeah, but it would still be better
@@bredsandwich that’s the point. 60% is more compact
I still tilt my 60%. Absolutely not 90 degrees though, more like 45, I just got small hands man
@@sleebees yeah, that’s what I do when I play shooter games
I usually use my feet to control my keyboard, that way I have the whole desk to work with
Dude same
I use both so I have 20 keys at a moments notice
Im using voice commands ,so i dont need even keys to play
Some Starcraft 2 player actually played against one guy on live stream with his feet and actually won.
Same hahahahahaha
One of them acted like tilting the keyboard would shrink it
My setup: my monitor is 5 cm from my face, my keyboard is tiltes to 90 degrees
i like it when keys are facing the table and not the ceiling
lol
that makes no sense bud
@@axsuriaaupside down? It’s a joke
@@JonS554 unfunniest joke wtf
@@axsuriaa jeez, no one hurt you, relax
I actually turn my keyboard 45 degrees, because it's a more ergonomic position for my hand to be in when gaming using WASD. When I have it horizontal my wrist has to be bent to use WASD, but when I turn my keyboard a bit, it's in a relaxed position where my wrist is in line with the rest of my arm.
Yass this I agree
45 is where the limit, not 90
Yepp. Do this all the time
30-45 seems fine anything but 90
Mine's at about a 5 degree angle to the opposite direction and I hold the keyboard right at the edge of the table.
I have an arm rest as an anchor point and I use kind of a lounge sitting position like the CS:GO pro JDM.
Tilting or Turing your keyboard allows more room and adds comfort but the main reason is you can use keys like f and g without much movement
Yo, the last guy rotated his keyboard 180 degree lol
I have my keyboard at a 45 degree angle. It's more of comfort than anything. I broke my wrist when I was younger and screws up the tendons in my hand
i do the same thing (for different reasons) but i turn it the opposite direction than i usually see people doing it
I do the same thing too but I didn’t messed up my hands or anything. Just felt more natural that way
I'd say 30 to 45 degrees is ideal, matter of fact, it's anatomically more adequate, less strain for your wrist.
Mine hovers between 45 and 60 degrees.
Mines about 15-20 degree angle because it allows me to just hit the b button while also hitting weapons
pro tip : it's 200% more efficient with a laptop
🥺 my wrists broke
😂😂
Lmao
Upside down is crazy😂
Bro really said "MY GYATT DUDE!"
Imagine getting mopped by a random player in warzone with an upside down keyboard. I'd feel depressed.
Practice makes better. 🎉
I usually tilt my keyboard around 45 degrees, works really well
720 degrees diff
@@Robert.M1205 1440 meta >
I normally play vertically completely
same it's so good to have my wrist that way
@@Tomas-zc4nk nahh. Your keys face down is meta
the last one man.😭😭😭
people who tilt their keyboard 90° must have less space then a new york apartment
This is the common and conventional solution to having no desk room; my childhood bad habit-forming fix was to increase my mouse sensitivity to an obscene level and now I can’t change
Same. My eDPI is 3000 or 4000 which I brought down from 6000. 🤣
4000+ dpi gang
My LG G hero 502 goes up to 24,600 dpi which is bananas😂😂 I normally have it between 1000 and 4000 with 6000 being the max for fast paced games
Dpi high, sensitivity low.
@@Jomega1212 Exactly!!! depending on the game's sense measurements, in some games i have like, 20.5 sens which in other games it would be converted to 5.5 sens, i play with 1600 dpi tho
When I had a full-sized keyboard I used to do this. But it started to hurt my wrist. So I bought a tenkeyless and use it normally. No more wrist pain, and still enough room for my mouse.
For your what??
@@NavidMasud his mouse
bro's hugging the kayboard by playing it upsidedown
I am horrible with playing games that involve a keyboard and mouth because I’m always gonna be pressing the wrong button on the keyboard
I use mine at around 45 degree angle, just cause i feel more comfortable due to the fact that i can place my elbows wider making it just so much easier to play and relax at the same moment.
same
Yo same
45 is fine but straight up 90 is just ridiculous
@@ashenblood agreed
Saw some people explain it in these comments but this started because of confined table space at LANs. I remember back in CS:S when I went to LANs they always had like 2 plastic beer pong tables per team so people had super limited space and had to tilt their keyboard to give their teammates their space and leave room for their mousepads.
depends also to get monitor closer
@@0xgreyhound never sat an inch away only. Sure to those few who had their nose pressed against the monitor maybe but with 10 inches away from monitor, never saw a kb that fat you couldn't be close enough an monitor stand/foot against kb wasn't enough. But I give you that if you had to lean forward arm position would get bad and wasd too close, hence it's a valid thing but iirc it was more side to side with the guy next being too close. Sitting pretty much shoulder to shoulder is rough.
This is on a non professional level and my youth.
About 20 degrees is perfect for reaching all the keys needed and feels better then playing horizontally
i play at about mabye 25 or 30
“I see it as a disadvantage to have my keyboard horizontal” 🤓
Xd agreed you dont use the whole keyboard there is almost no game that require you to use wasd and p.l.o.k etc keys that is on right side of the keyboard most of them use all the keys on left side so no need
yea he just likes it that way it ain't that deep lol
This is straight up just “EZ Carpel Tunnel”
This doesn’t work for me because then I can no longer type quickly in all chat 😂
From my Experience. I used to play in net cafe and having a small desk to play. So turning my keeb vertical will give me more space to flick the mouse. And if you're those who like to look very closely to the monitor. The body posture you made when playing like this will feel more comfort than playing with normal horizontal keyboard.
Sym’s upside down keyboard is jjst one of many things to add to the list of “How… in the entire shit?! Did he land BeookeAB?” 😂😂😂
Unspoken Rizz
People using a laptop: *why are we here, just to suffer*
bro said my GYOD dude.
I just do a slight tilt. It makes it more ergonomic to press control and some other keys. Probably 30 degrees or a bit more.
I have desk room for horizontal but i find it more ergonomic and comfortable to have it at around a 30-50 degree angle since i sit relatively close to the monitor
does your mum still cut up your food for you?
I mean sure at least it isnt 90 degrees or anything
This. Even though I learned with plenty of room (or at least enough to not have to tilt it too much) I sit xantares close when I'm playing cs and almost as close in most other games. It just lets me place my hand more naturally. If it's 90 degrees I have to bend my wrist in an unnatural way.
Well, the main reason for this is that in the old days, desks would've been quite small, and so placing both keyboard and mouse was problematic. Nowadays we have TKL keyboards and, of course, large desks. However, professional players still use the keyboard vertically as they are just used to it)
You can really see this playstyle in Counter Strike
The guy trying to explain it is probably trying to press his keyboard against his stomach when he needs to lean forward
The 2 main reasons are ergonomics, your wrist doesn’t wasn’t to sit straight and you will have a lot of issues down the line without ANY tilt on your keyboard. The second is space, primarily in old LAN settings when people shared a single table for 3-5 setups you HAD to tilt your keyboard to make sure every player had space.
The only reason you would ‘suffer’ in general from that situation would be the same regardless of your keyboard position.
It’s called *Not Coming Off The Computer* .
@@aterriblesliceoftoast4096 I disagree. If I'm comfortable enough and take short breaks, I can spend like 10 hours and feel fine.
If I'm not confortable, I will have wrist pain or back pain after just 1.5-2 hours.
@@Schmuly in what ways? your arm rests much more natural at ~45 degree angle as opposed to straight. It isn't a significant improvement if you are gaming constantly but it is a help for sure.
@@aterriblesliceoftoast4096 ofc constantly gaming would make it fairly moot, but a ~45 degree turn can actually relieve a lot of fatigue and joint pain in your wrists from gaming.
I got my keyboard on my lap. I get their jig. Gotta have real estate for the mouse and beers
Upside down is cursed but the tilted thingy IS REALLY USEFUL bro😅😂
my hands are dying when its straight
As soon as you think outside the box and society gets crazy
I like to think of it the same way you would hold a guitar when playing. There's the one you'd originally do, which is put it on your right lap to play, while there's classical stance used in classical guitar playing. You're pretty much cradling the guitar between your thighs, tilting the fretboard diagonally. What this does is it allows you to reach further than usual and is relatively easier on the fingers.
Ah... At least that upsidedown is not the upsidedown that I imagined..
Don’t tell anyone that I use all my keyboards by turning it 360 degrees :)
i keep my keyboard normally to have optimal reach to all my keys in order to flame the enemy faster
This only happens when you feel a need to be different when you're young. By that you eventually train yourself to make it work but make no mistake. There's no advantage
Lmao spoken like a true 12000 dpi bot 😂😂😂😂😂
Bros arm while he playing 💪
Bro I write with my book like that in school
QWERTY keyboards are actually designed to slow people down primarily because of its history with typewriters
this isn’t correct. it wasn’t to slow people down, it was to space the ink bars of the most commonly used keys apart so they wouldn’t get jammed up. yes, this happened in an alphabetical layout from typing too fast, but people clearly learned to type just as fast with the qwerty layout, if not faster than before, because they no longer had to worry about their keys getting jammed up.
so saying the qwerty design was made to “slow people down” is misleading.
edit: that being said, keyboards were clearly not designed with gaming in mind.
but it doesn't matter in the context of video gaming, because you're not "typing", you're just pressing keys that are assigned to certain movements/executions.
You can literally just rebind them.
@@GameFuMasterwhich is why controllers are made
@@mkv2718forgot about the jamming 😂. thanks for the correction.
When you tilt it vertically the distance from each key is still the same, so you arent reaching the keys easier, but you are feeling like you reached them easier. This can also cause a lot of wrist damage over time as it puts strain on muscles near the radius.
45° slant makes it easier to reach everything for me,I have pretty small hands so it helps out
It does make the keys easier to reach. The wrist position is different when tilting keyboard allowing for your thumbs to reach buttons further. It does not cause wrist problems, its the opposite, it keeps the wrist stable, playing normal keyboard is bad for wrist because there is more burden on the wrist when reaching further keys and creates instability. Tilted keyboard keeps yours wrist more stable and arm position locked which gives off less exertion.
been looking for this comment
"My preciousss" ah keyboard placement
The thing with vertical keyboard is that there is exactly 0 room on my desk for that
I play with mine at about a 35-40 degree angle. It feels natural for my hand. Its worth giving a shot.
Same bro it is so much nicer idk how people play with a horizontal rotation tbh
@@superkdog888 yea horizontal just flat out feels weird. personally over time it makes my wrist hurt.
@@crowned_user yeah 100% saw someone play like that so I did for a little bit it was terrible. Also being an controller main reaching for keys already feels weird so horizontal makes it even worse
@@superkdog888 ive been a k&m main for 3 years now. ive always played angled. but there is a fine line to whats ok when it come to keyboard angle. anything over 60 degrees just isnt ok.
The real reason people do this is because in the old days LAN events didn’t have enough desk space so the pro players would tilt their keyboards to save space. Viewers saw the best players in the world playing this way and thought it was advantageous.
Yes, I remembered it when I was watching the events back then, I noticed something and my God the amount of space left for mouse movement is baffling
this comes from the old lan parties when you didn't have space to put your keyboard all the way horizontally.
bro said he reaches more keys while his wrist position remained the same
The true reason is dexterity. Keeps your fingers from straining as it’s a more natural resting position for your hand and fingers
Turning your wrist 90 degrees is not it's natural resting position.
Nah bro, this is just a classic case of "look how different and special I am"
Next is the keyboard gonna be tilted upside down on the floor 😂
I paid for the whole keyboard I’m going to use the whole keyboard.
Those guys must be on the spectrum or something
Maybe actually search up why they do this, because now it looks like you’re on the spectrum
It’s not cool or okay to use a real neuro-developmental diagnosis as an insult.
As someone who has worked with autistic folks, they are not characterized by doing weird things. They aren’t even all characterized by “lacking theory of mind”. They’re all distinct and amazing people like you and me.
The fact that this is the most liked comment on this short is really disappointing.
Do better, gaming community.
@@j_estrelicaIt’s not that deep. Chill out
@@crystal7143 on the contrary, it is.
@@crystal7143that’s the issue though, people use “on the spectrum” as an insult because it’s funny and “not that deep”, but it really does normalize negative and false stereotypes about autistic folks, and can be really hurtful for those people.
Saying someone’s “on the spectrum” for doing something weird is just as hurtful as saying that just because someone’s African American they “must be dangerous” or just because someone’s a girl they “belong in the kitchen”. No one chooses to be African American, a female, or autistic, and everyone who belongs to these minorities are more than than the stereotypes people so casually mention. It’s harmful to those people. And it’s harmful to the person using these stereotypes because they will think lesser of these people and never get to know them as the people they are.
If you think it’s weird to turn your keyboard, just say it’s weird. There’s no need to propagate stigmatization along with it, just to be “funny”.
the thing ab symphunys upside down kb is that there is no advantage of saving space or reaching keys easier its js a fun way to break yr wrist
me on a laptop using the built in keyboard:
I've played at about 45 degrees for over 10 yrs now. Since counter strike on a membrane office keyboard as a kid on mom's computer. 45-90 degrees is meta.
I tilt my keyboard the tiniest bit since I normally sit crooked so when it's the tiniest tilted it feels straight to me
"My gyatt dude what the"💀
The funny bit is symphuny’s is literally insane at warzone 2
"I see that as a disadvantage because I can reach a lot more keys vertically"
Blid hasn't heard of changing keybinds 💀
I hold my controller upside down....
Most of it comes from older LAN days (5+ years ago) where there wasn't much desk space and teammates were sitting pretty close to each other. Plus pros tend to use much lower sensitivities so they require more mouse space.
There's something to this?
Yeah, carpal tunnel
Dude is gonna freak out when he will discover that some ppl put their monitors right in their face
We used to turn the keyboard for extra space in a mini desk with a big keyboard but now 60 % keyboard already gives more space but the habit of tilting is already in our dna so we tilt the keyboard
Changing Keybinds: Am I a joke to you?
Meanwhile......
Alexa!
Turn keyboard function to Inverted controll !😂
Buddy of mine played inverted up/down mouse movement back when Quake3 was big. Freaky, any time you tried it it was more like a drunk person would aim. 😂
The reason for me is that it feels better when it’s in a different angle and your whole hand is on the table instead of only the fingers and wrist
Sure like a little bit of tilt is completely fine and better than full horizontal in my opinion but full on vertical is just madness 💀
I remember back on LAN 20+ years ago people had to play like this because of space.
Also "reach more ieys easily" doesn't really fit. I play with nearly 70 hotkeys in WoW and have the keyboard normal.
Bro's keyboard did a 180 bro 💀💀
Reminds me of those freaks who write with their left hands AND they tilt their notebook
I feel like tilting your keyboard anywhere over 45 degrees is either a wrist fracture or carpel tunnel 😂
Mine is angled a bit when I’m on a desk with room enough to put it where feels most comfortable. This, however, is insane.
just reminding you that a pro CS:GO player named FASHR plays with inverted vertical axis (aka going up with your mouse means going down and viceversa) and also moves forward with the right-click mouse button instead of W. To this day that is the strangest settings I've heard of and his justification is that he played a lot of flying simulation games as a kid.
I use a slight tilt but never heard of the full tilt
It’s just one of those things that people do to make what they’re doing look more complicated than what it actually is, and by that they also look better than what they are
Bros gonna hate to see my upside down keyboard setup💀
I just change my keybinds from WASD to IJKL so my hand is on the left side of my keyboard and I can move it farther to the left without having to lean over to it
Used to do this at a time I was playing a lot of LAN tournaments on CS. Back then we often had very little room on tables and to avoid bumping into team-mates we had to optimise space ahah
I've been playing like that since I started playing games. And I swear that is a lot more comfortable and easier to reach buttons.
I can confirm that once you tilt ur keyboard there is no going back 😭😭