Pedal Steel Guitar Volume Pedals: Which is right for me?

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  • čas přidán 27. 05. 2018
  • In this video I discuss things to consider when picking out a volume pedal for the Pedal Steel Guitar. I cover vintage proprietary pedals, the Ernie Ball VP, the Goodrich 120, the Hilton Electronics VP and the Telonics FP-100. I also discuss the pros/cons of passive vs. active pedals.
    www.texassteelguitars.com/
    Ernie Ball
    www.ernieball.com/guitar-acce...
    Goodrich
    goodrichsoundcompany.com/volu...
    Hilton Electronics
    hiltonelectronics.com/pedals
    Telonics
    www.telonics.com/products/pro...

Komentáře • 48

  • @derbyd10
    @derbyd10 Před 3 lety +3

    I have one of each, a 46 year old original MSA "drop pin" pot pedal, it's a hoss. I have replaced the pot with the same value 2 or 3 times. These are rack and gear pedals, not strings. Long before the pots crap out, they get stiff and scratchy and static. Easy to work on and replace the pot.. I also have a first or second gen. Goodrich 120 bought new to use as a spare. It's still my spare.. they sound and feel great but use a string to operate the pot.. I haven't used it enough to test its reliability in all these years..mainly because it doesnt attach to my pedal bar ... I bought a Hilton at least 10 years ago or more... it sounds, feels, performs as good as anything.. absolutely ZERO mechanical issues. I sent it back because the power cable got damaged.. he replaced it, and added the new LED pilot light, readjusted it to the newest specs.. years later sent it back for a new power supply. excellent service.. yesterday for the first time I tool the tread off to see if a dust bunny was causing a volume dropout issue .. it was almost sterile inside.. no dust bunny.. problem was a bad ground on an effects loop cable. I bought the up pin attachment that connects it to pedal bar . ABSOLUTELY 100% reliable and if there is a tone difference between a pot pedal and the active light beam < i think its a laser> I don't hear it..

  • @garya.jacobsen8729
    @garya.jacobsen8729 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for great info on pedals. I’m using sho bud pedal with my 6139. Like the classic sound of 70’s :)

  • @mootbooxle
    @mootbooxle Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you for this info! I’m new to steel guitar after being a fan for many years…definitely not liking any of my standard passive guitar volume pedals with the steel. Hilton sounds like a winner! I had not heard of those.

  • @derbyd10
    @derbyd10 Před 3 lety +1

    great video TSG !

  • @tommybohlen3287
    @tommybohlen3287 Před 6 lety +2

    Great channel! Thanks for the PSG vids.

  • @stefannetsman4613
    @stefannetsman4613 Před 2 lety +1

    I have used Ernie Ball, Goodrich and is now using Lehle. For me the Lehle Mono 90 is great.

  • @rgvt5638
    @rgvt5638 Před 3 lety +3

    My 2c: I’d been using an active pedal since I started on PSG, but I just picked up an old Goodrich (guessing mid 70’s), and MAN does it sound better than what I was using. Something about the simplicity of pot pedal is making my Sho Bud sound like it’s supposed to. I can distinctly hear string separation on the low end a lot better. Plus, now I can leave my cables plugged into it at home and not worry about killing a battery.

    • @thesteelguitar9327
      @thesteelguitar9327  Před 2 lety +1

      You know I agree with you here. The active pedals are very transparent but there’s something about those old Goodrich, Sho~Bud & Emmons pot pedals that you lose out on when you go active. I first went to an active pedal because it was the only one I could find locally at that time that was a low profile. I couldn’t fit under the guitar with my older pedals. I keep a Goodrich Lo Pro Pot Pedal and a Hilton Lo Pro in my seat now and switch between them depending on the gig.

  • @tommybutler7532
    @tommybutler7532 Před 4 lety +3

    Lots of variables in pedals. The technology of pots have come a long way in the last couple years as well as the active pedals.Quality of cables is a tone factor. Length of cable is a factor. Pick up, speaker, wattage of amp. type of speaker cabinet, guitar neck (wood or metal) Hard to pick just one. Try them all lol.

  • @paulsharp6559
    @paulsharp6559 Před 3 lety +2

    Telonics volume pedal is by far the best. Because you get what you pay for.

  • @ksgtrpkr
    @ksgtrpkr Před 2 lety +2

    My Goodrich pedal has a 9 volt battery hidden under the base plate. This should be known because it didn’t come with any instructions or acknowledge this.

  • @PetrisonRocha
    @PetrisonRocha Před rokem

    I have a budget active volume/wah pedal from Joyo and the tone suck is very audible when volume is switched on. Fortunately it can be disabled and then it works as a true bypass wah, this is what I bought it for.
    For volume I bought a vintage Ibanez VL10, passive, high impedance, and it's working great at the end of my pedal chain.

  • @steveharrop8705
    @steveharrop8705 Před rokem

    Been using Ernie Ball pedals for steel guitar for 50 years, done many thousands of gigs, and had very few problems, and I have been doing up t0 8 gigs a week more often than not.

  • @CARDINAL701
    @CARDINAL701 Před 3 lety +2

    I've used a Hilton pedal for years and years and I've never had a problem at all...great performance and reliable. The Telonics is $200+ more than the Hilton and not any better for my money.

  • @jburtonca
    @jburtonca Před 4 lety +3

    I've been using a George Dennis GD20 for about 12 years. They are an active optical pedal. I am a bass player and this pedal is fantastic. All steel, no tone suck and I power mine with a 9 volt lithium ion rechargeable battery. Unfortunately they are no longer being made. I paid $130 for mine, new.

  • @dennisschell5543
    @dennisschell5543 Před 4 lety +1

    New subscriber, really enjoy the videos!!! 😎
    I'm "using what I have", an ancient DArmond volume/tone pedal... 😮

    • @MrPatdeeee
      @MrPatdeeee Před 3 lety +1

      You are a wise person. Kayton Roberts (Hank Snow's SG player for 35 yrs) used the D'Armond vol pedal for his entire career. In a word he used the same pedal from the time he bought it and the day he passed away.
      The only thing he ever did was to replace the pot when it wore out.
      Sadly, Vol pedals are given more claim than they really produce. If you were an electronic technician, you would know that most of the rhetoric about pedals is simply NOT true. Most can not hear any difference between a passive and active vol pedal. Save your money. Keep that D'Armond. It does it just as well as most other pedals.

    • @thesteelguitar9327
      @thesteelguitar9327  Před 2 lety

      Thanks!

  • @jacksprat3009
    @jacksprat3009 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Hard to find videos on the differences between passive and active out there.

    • @derbyd10
      @derbyd10 Před 3 lety +1

      some say theres a diff... I cant hear it.. doesnt mean there isn't

  • @DieselWeazel
    @DieselWeazel Před 10 měsíci

    Cool video

  • @gvrussell9230
    @gvrussell9230 Před 3 lety +1

    The Ernie Ball pedals work fine.

  • @barukpj6020
    @barukpj6020 Před 3 lety +1

    I've had 2 ernie balls jr both was broken.... They don't work for a long time... then I bought a Hilton Volume pedal... There are about 4 years that I'm using it for everything and it still works perfectly... it's like a war tank... very hard box, works very well and too better than Ernie Ball's volume pedals. HILTON IS THE BEST V. PEDAL IN THE WORLD

  • @sledge1960
    @sledge1960 Před 2 lety +1

    I use Hilton myself but have used Goodrich and Ernie Ball in the past, no problems with the Passive until the pot goes. Hilton you don't have that problem ,but I do carry a spare, just in case.

  • @Briansmusic-
    @Briansmusic- Před 2 lety +1

    I just scored a Goodrich L120 at a thrift store for under 15 bucks! Now I need a pedal steel.

    • @longhair-dontcare9983
      @longhair-dontcare9983 Před 2 lety +1

      Brian, I'm a little envious! I've never seen anything that cool at a thrift store. I only wish you would have used your "super score" on the actual pedal steel. Good luck - you never know.

    • @Briansmusic-
      @Briansmusic- Před 2 lety

      @@longhair-dontcare9983 Yes me too! That is on my to buy list. I am saving it for that day. I only tried it on guitar the day I got it and decided to keep using my Ernie Ball pedal as it suits it well. Thanks!

    • @thesteelguitar9327
      @thesteelguitar9327  Před 2 lety

      NICE!

  • @superorangeish
    @superorangeish Před 3 lety +2

    Wow.Great vid.Good use of time and info. packed non stop!! Gotta figure pot and string replacement on passive pedals , annoying and costly too.Hilton may be worth it.Thinking out loud.

  • @shobud71
    @shobud71 Před 5 lety +2

    Active. Hilton

  • @moisesrubio4119
    @moisesrubio4119 Před 3 lety +1

    GREAT VIDEO! I HAVE A QUESTION!
    I WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CONNECT THE HILTON VOLUME WIHT MY STRYMON OJAYS

    • @derbyd10
      @derbyd10 Před 3 lety +1

      not sure what the strymon ojays is.. but if its an OD or Fuzz put it first in line out of the steel .. and run modulation efx like delays and echos thru the loop ..

  • @taylordiclemente5163
    @taylordiclemente5163 Před rokem

    This may be an unusual question, but would these pedals designed for steel work well for a standing "Spanish" style electric guitar player? I play a strat through a Twin Reverb without distortion and I seek to emulate steel tones. Thank you in advance.

  • @johnharshfield4726
    @johnharshfield4726 Před 2 lety +1

    Sorry, you said your name so fast, I missed it :-) Any chance you could go into more detail about using a low profile volume pedal if you happen to be tall? I'd appreciate that - thanks for the presentation!

    • @thesteelguitar9327
      @thesteelguitar9327  Před 2 lety

      Basically a good rule of thumb is if you are over 6 foot tall you prolly wanna consider a low profile pedal. This also depends on your guitar but most often the 6 foot rule works.

  • @thevoidincidentv29
    @thevoidincidentv29 Před 2 lety

    I want to know were in cape town south afica can i buy a v pedel for c 6

  • @stevesuv
    @stevesuv Před 10 měsíci

    What about the Gooodrich?

  • @2011Matz
    @2011Matz Před rokem

    Pots should have a lube port. You can drill them if you are careful. Any powered component risks ground hum. Behringer make a solid, cheap passive pedal, whose design includes a mechanical clevis instead of a string. Poor quality control put the pivot in the wrong position. A Rock musician wouldn't notice. I fixed mine.

  • @sandb1867
    @sandb1867 Před 3 lety +2

    Would've been a much better review if you actually tried out the pedals to compare tone. Some pedals are reputed to be tone eaters.

  • @raybassman7536
    @raybassman7536 Před 3 lety +1

    When you started actually showing the pedals, it would have been nice to stop the background music.

  • @zumsteelguitar
    @zumsteelguitar Před 5 lety +5

    Goodrich has a new pedal called OMNI. (active/passive) I ordered one today and looking forward to pick up the pedal at the post office soon. Then the old 120 pedal gonna be retired and a back up pedal.