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Correction: We said the SCAR-H PRs are being delivered with Swarovski scopes. They are actually being delivered with Schmidt & Bender scopes. The Army Recognition article we read on the first deliveries to line units got this piece of info wrong.
Can you make a video about Austrias Squads? I know we are not as important in the world as the US ore France, still would be nice.
I was just going to point that out. The timestamp, for those interested, is 4:05.
The French still have a military?!?! Who knew?
I appreciate the attention to detail in these videos; including sources cited on-screen and then follow-up with any omissions or errors afterward. Solid content throughout.
@@soonerfrac4611 Where are you from so we can laugh :DDDD
The idea that every member is more than just a rifleman is incredible. The best method to thwart an ambush is overwhelming firepower into a specific area. Insurgents would hesitate to keep contact if getting blown to bits was the immediate response.
It comes from world war 1 in fact where officers discorvered that giving a specific role to every men in a platoon made them more efficient. The main reasons are that because every person has a different role everyone must count on each other and need one another it reinforce the cohesion of the platoon. And then because every man have a technical task to achieve it makes them less prone to fear because they are focused on their technical task.
If I remember correctly, that's basically the Swedish doctrine where almost everyone in the squad has an anti-tank weapon.
@@pierrev6 (im late but w/e) it also come down to the fact that french military is few in number and just like why leclerc has an autoloader to save 1 crew to have more tank / tankers (not the only reason) an infantry personnel having more than just 1 role helps to fill the gap they might face in combat (example if they didn't have such doctrine, a unit isolated or having to push a flank of the enemy (like in mali) without artillery or heavy fire power / AT capabilities would have much higher difficulty accomplishing their mission / surviving) at least that's my take on it
France is one of the only millitaries today that feels like what I envisioned militaries to look like in the 2020s.
Do you think its better or worse this way?
I agree. The FELIN program seemed to be the most realistic and obtainable of all the "future warrior" programs that we've seen this century. The armored infantry unit structure is very straightforward and easy for me to wrap my head around.
@@peterhughes7649 the FELIN program is mostly loathed by french service member. It's heavy, bulky and useless once you go through the battery, that don't last very long. The best part was the radio head set, which is the only thing used by the french SF.
@@peterhughes7649 It looks like a "sensitive item" nightmare. Probably finicky to operate, heavy as hell to hump with on your weapon + rucksack, obviously bulky, runs on a battery, needs to be secured bc it cost more than the weapon, and will probably get dialed down to a quarter of that size (in about 8 years)...when it'll be an integral optic like it were built into the Aimpoint. Until then...fuck that thing. Or give it to the assistant vehicle commander to hold for the squad leader. I wouldn't want it.
@@yakamen Couldn't agree more. I always go to the XM29 OICW when I think of bulk and uber future weapons. The thing looks absolutely unwieldy. I would be tempted to "lose it" on the battlefield. Granted it led to the XM25 that gave us the 25mm programmable round. Not sure if this idea will ever go any further.
video up for a whole day and not one tired and lame French surrender joke? is this progress?
We all make surrender jokes knowing damn well the French are some badass mofos.
You know whats about to Happen....
HAHAHAHAHA FRENCH SURRENDER FAST HAJAHAGAH
The trolls surrendered this time
Americans can't really make that joke anymore after the Afghanistan evacuation. And it was a joke peddled by WWII vets and Boomers, not anyone who actually understood history.
@@barrbrown12 but what if I’m not American and I know that France quickly surrendered after being invaded in WW2
Great video! Always love it when european armies are treated. The french army is one of the most experienced and best fighting forces in the world.
thanks you
Cette chaîne et une des rare chaîne anglophone qui parlent de l'armée française avec réalisme et non par un vue dégradante et moquante envers les français.
Merci merci beaucoup de ces vidéos sa fait chaud au cœur en tant que Français
Some additional info about a few of the small arms mentioned here. The HK416F-S (14.5 inch model) is capable of firing 40 mm rifle grenades, such as the APAV40. It was a requirement as part of the AIF (Arme Individuelle Future) tender. As a result the HK416F has some unique features not found on the main 416 commercial line. The rifle is built around and HK416A5, and retains that model's ambidextrous control layout. The unique three-pronged muzzle device allows the firing of the aforementioned rifle grenades. It also gives the HK416F-S a distinctive "tuning fork ring" to its report. The smaller, lighter and lower profile A5 stock was replaced by the older A2 pattern, which is heavier and bulkier, but was found to be more comfortable for firing rifle grenades. Notably, some units have begun replacing these with lower profile Magpul CTRs, most notably the para regiments. The rear BUIS on the HK416F is also unique as far as I can tell. Many French soldiers have been observed buying off-the-shelf accessories to customise their HK416Fs on operation, including stocks, grips, white lights and even optics (seen a couple of Elcan Specters, which are only standard issue in the Special Forces). There seems to be a greater tolerance for this in the French Army since Afghanistan.
The Minimi Paras are also being upgraded somewhat as part of their standard maintenance cycles. Mainly the older handguard models are being replaced by the Mk3 models, though the older style twin-strut collapsible stock is being retained. There was some talk a few years ago of replacing the 5.56 Para models with the 7.62 "Maximi" models for line infantry, but I'm not sure were the plan stands today. The Glock model being acquired is the Glock 17FR, basically a Glock 17 Gen5 with a tan frame, lanyard loop, a night-sights. Some models will also be issued with threaded barrels, suppressors, laser aiming devices and suppressor compatible sights. These will likely be issued to the commando groups (GCP, GCM, GAE-A, GAE-B) as well as engineer combat divers.
Finally, the AT4CS is being acquired in three different flavours, as part of the Roquette NG tender. Yes, like the US Army, the French incorrectly refer to the AT4 as a rocket launcher. Its a recoilless gun for those wondering, there is no rocket motor involved. The first is the AT4CS ER: HEAT warhead with a 600 m effective range. The second variant is the AT4CS HE: antipersonnel HE round with a tungsten ball liner. Capable of 250 m2 coverage, 600 m range for point targets and 1,000 m for aerial targets. The final is the AT4CS AST: anti-structure munition with a programmable fuze: fitted with a break-in charge (BIC) and an HE follow-through bomb (FTB), the fuze can be set for breaching (both warheads go off on impact) for mouse-holing or outright destruction; or delayed: with the BIC going off on impact and the FTB air bursting inside the structure. That model will have slightly longer effective range for the French Army compared to the 200 m advertised by Saab.
Is it true that AT-4s are replacing Eryx in support squad?
@@norbi1411 It was my understanding that the MMP was the replacement for the Eryx and the Milan.
Thx !
Yes but the shoulder strap which was 14.7?mm is not being changed to a Muslim made pig fat free leather strap of 14.8 mm and this changes the point of aim when using the 1888?, shoulder strap around forearm firing method- by 1.7?centermeters at 2000 meters when it’s 13 centigrade- everyone knows this and it must be changed -
The French are badass. Look at their intervention in Mali. They were able to mobilise thousands with aircraft and vehicles. Many road marched across country to get to positions. Not many western governments would commit to helping that quickly and have boots on the ground fighting within 24 hours. ( I know some counties have the ability to deploy within hours but how many would actually receive a call to help and immediately deploy). And unlike nations like Britain who rather than buying the best rifle like the HK instead insisted on buying the sa80 for political reasons
@@Beric-Dondarrion yeah the redesign and updating the original design was British and it was awful.
@@jackcloud4728 have you actually fired or even spoken to a person who has used an sa80 ? theyre perfectly fine weapons, while its true the A1 had issues which caused its notoriety, the A2 and A3 are good rifles.
@@weebay6166 I haven’t fired it and have spoken too a good number of people who fired it and like I said in my comment the original British design was awful
@@jackcloud4728 Yes, the A1 had issues, they were redesigned by H&K and A1s havent been in service for a very long time. They arent bad rifles, though i do think they should be replaced soon with perhaps a larger caliber rifle.
the HK416 was only recently adopted by France and didn't exist when the British first adopted the SA80 so it's a poor comparison. The French had the same problem the British had in that it's domestic military small arms industry went under forcing them to buy weapons from outside France. Britain's next service rifle won't be British simply because there is no one in Britain that is capable of undertaking a contract to fulfill MoD's demands. They'll likely have to buy the SA80/L85 replacement from either HK, Sig, Beretta, FN, CZ, HSProdukt, or Colt.
As a french soldier i can tell that's is pretty accurate !
interesting, so standard french infantry get sidearms, and i've heard that the brits were experimenting with giving their guys sidearms while on patrol, is this like a european thing or do you think having a sidearm will be standard for most militaries in the future?
I think it's one of those fads. You can carry three STANAG magazines for the weight of a glock, glock magazines, and holster
Pistols are rarely ever used and require a substantial amount of training to be effective. That time training would be better spent on the rifle.
The US military is issuing more sidearms too. But I think that's just "afganistan thinking". It's supposed to make them seem less intimidating if they are invited into a house. They can leave their rifle outside. That makes sense, if you're preforming occupation duties. Not so much for a defense of Taiwan or eastern Europe.
The British mainly did it for Afghanistan deployments and they retain the ability to issue them based on need, probably if a unit goes on a COIN deployment. I haven't read France's rationale specifically but I would guess it is because of their engagement in Africa, such as in Mali, and the resulting COIN operations that come from that. While it's probably not the reason why all militaries are issuing pistols, the pressures of Afghanistan made being armed 24/7 with a non-intrusive weapon on the person desirable. It's never because a pistol is good in a firefight or anything like that, because it is not.
@@johnharker7194 Because you think the French will get involved in the bullshit americans are tying to pull on China ? They didn't boycotted the J.O. and have very good diplomatic relations compared to other European countries and they won't throw it away for americans
That was actually my critique of the the US trend of issuing sidearms. My general criticism of pistols is that they are heavy and mostly useless.
Drop the ego.
@@johnharker7194 until we enter a MOUT facility and conduct CQB. Good to have a secondary once primary goes down. Sure other tools, combatives and such come into play. But hey. All in all what boils down is training.
Sad Army thinking doesn't put that into consideration. I understand the whole weight consideration and more focus on primary, but again two is one, one is none.
Either way, still trash that Army went with lolSig instead of Glock. Usual nonsense in DoD contracts
Damn, one single squad has some pretty impressive firepower
Yup. Ironically enough, their army has a huge proportion of guys who despise the French.
@@khaldrago911 More British muslims joined ISIS than the British Armed Forces. Just a random fact.
@@khaldrago911 what are you talking about ?
@@milanmericskay8003 I believe they have issues with "tenants" from foreign lands.
@@milanmericskay8003 I dealt with the French during my time in the service. A lot of their enlisted are black or arab origin. They say they’re treated like shit in France. Their officers are almost all white, esp the higher up you go. Needless to say, there’s resentment. Apparently they’ve even had mutinies on some of their big ships.
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@Kenneth Johnson Russia is eastern
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Happy New Year Canada ! !
Ha!!!! What a joke!!
After Russia they are strongest in Europe.
I know this is out of topic, but...
Happy new year Battle Order and to everyone watching this!
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Thanks man
@@BattleOrder No Problem mate. I got some requests for you:
- Singapore Army
- Malaysian Royal Army
- Indonesian Army
- Thailand Royal Army
- Vietnam People's Army
- German Army
- etc
I'll be very, very happy if you make one or more of these videos in the future.
@@ryohandoko1450 We have a video on the Vietnamese squad on our second channel: czcams.com/video/MkDOo3lUp7k/video.html
@@BattleOrder Thanks mate
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The F1 and F2 sniper/designated marksmen rifle are contrary to popular belief not modified MAS 36 rifles. They are entirely new builds. The action of the F1/F2 is very similar to the design of MAS 36, but it would be more accurate to the the F1/F2 a descendant of the MAS36 rather than a modification.
This has been your pedantic gun fact of the day.
Yes, and French had marksmen since...I don't know, just after WW2.
They tried first by putting optics on MAS49/56, but it wasn't accurate enough so they developed FR-F1, both were in 7.5mm French.
FR-F2 was developed from FR-F1 in 7.62mm NATO in the 1980's.
In Afghanistan some HK417 were procured in limited quatities as semi-auto was deemed more suitable that bolt action to support squads.
But in the end, SCAR-H won over HK417 as full replacement for FR-F2.
Ian, stop using other people's account to correct mistakes said on french firearms.
Yep. The FR/F2 was for sure the best Cold War precision rifle. And is still a very good weapon for distances up to 800m. One of Ian McCollum's favorite weapons :)
@@JoJo-vm8vk we had snipers in WW1 as well
Man... these guys armed to the teeth. That's a video game level of equipment.
Happy New Year! Best wishes for peace and prosperity in 2022.
Bing chilling
do one about the average irish army section/squad set up..its easy...all riflemen with AUGs and 1-2 GPMGs per section
It will attract the usual crowd of jingoistic brits as all videos on Irish Military do.
@@JoinMeInDeathBaby What!? What kind of problem do the Brits have?
There is talk of replacing the AUG with the HK416 but it is probably bollocks.
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 eternal anglos have problem with Ireland's existence
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 Irish people are absolutely obsessed with the evil Ingerlish Boogeyman and think he lurks behind every corner
That is a very forward thinking squad layout. And they mixed the best of the old with the new.
I am very partial to the French squad mortar concept.
@@swann67000 The 5.56 minimi seems to be the preferred choice for suppressive fire as it allows the carrying of more ammo than a 7.62
Not only does the French army seem to be one of the modern, well-armed and well-trained armies, that doesn't just depend on large-scale, but has developments down to the squad and individual troop level, where it counts. But importantly it has actually put it to good use, and this progress in their military has been shown to be effective in Operation Serval. Whereas a lot of other European armies, although luckily being used for peacekeeping and NATO forces, are often sitting idly, where technically-speaking they are well-trained but never expected to be seen in battle, and I think everyone knows that. Of course, this is only recently where the French army has been used effectively and positively, its only a few decades before that they were implemented in atrocious ways. Ofc Mali is still facing insurgency and chaos, but the Operation Serval did do its job, and well, and to a large extent the French did what they were aiming to do. Whereas the Wagner in Africa have only been proven in their numerous war crimes and looting across several nations (look at CAR, Sudan, Libya. there's been allegations of their presence in Congo which are not yet confirmed. But the fact that they're commonly known for looting mines and resources from their host countries, and planting land mine fields that get numerous civilians killed, and numerous other allegations, it is rather depressing seeing the Russians now being invited by the Mali government, also largely thanks to succesful Russian misinformation campaigns (again, which have been traced directly back to Russian state efforts and using a huge army of bots on social media, let alone corruption at the highest levels in Mali). And there is no clear solution for the conflict between the North and South in Sahelian countries, the Tuaregs are not evil, there's been just huge amounts of manipulation from Islamic Extremist groups that exploit local grievances.
The french are the only European country that is battle ready when it comes to their military.
all other NATO countries are like completely dependent on US, NATO is completely loser in front of Russia China military alliance.
wrong
I think the Brits and the Italians to some extent are ok, but better with their navy though.
well not that much , better than most of european country probably yes but we have not the logisitic for long battle at high intensity , yet.
@@justepourlacheruncom8393 Yes it is in the process on recovering on this point.
Wow, this was super informative and well produced. This just popped up on recommended. Subscribed. Didn't know much about the LGI F1, but its an interesting addition to a Squad/Section. I saw the FFL carrying them in Afghanistan and they used them mostly for smoke and illumination, much like I used my M203 attached to my C7A2. I am glad the French are modernizing with the 416 because the FAMAS was a tired rifle that needed constant maintenance in the desert.
Sadly it's a german gun who's the new one...
@Kenneth Johnson and you said the issue yourself. It's german. Not only that but it is just as accurate as the famas, not has been around as much. The attachements I agree tho, but knowing our senators they won't fund them. Just to remind you, our troops didn't have the back of their bullet proof vests to save money, and because "the soldier doesn't show his back to the enemy". They wasted all their money in the felin project wich was utter shit. I agree that the famas is old but the hk is far from a perfect choice. It's not bad either. It's made for germany. Not the sahel. Too fragile, as accurate as the famas if not a bit more, and the attachements aren't very useful when the average soldier is broke and the country barely pays them, when it yses money in it's equipement.
@@ardugaleen2231 The 416 isn't fragile though. What other weapon would you have? At this point modern rifles are all fairly comparable in reliability, be it AKs or ARs.
@@deadahead6775 a french made one, don't you see the issue to letting a foreign power decide where or if u go to war? I mean we already have the usa doing that if germany can do it too...
@@ardugaleen2231 What? While I do think that Germany should stop being so backwards in matters of EU policies sometimes, a private german company supplying our Army doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Besides, our small arms industry is dead. Reviving it would cost much more than buying from our neighbor. People already don't like the fact that we're the only western EU country to take military matters seriously.
In any case, Germany doesn't have a say in where France goes to war, simply because a German company manufactured rifles for them. If buying German rifles makes Germany more likely to collaborate or buy EU products later, instead of relying on the US, then good.
I'm guessing you're against the EU, but we have to realise Europe (and the rest of the world) will take a turn for the worst in the future, and a stronger, more unified EU is the best way to go.
The VBCI is one of the few IFV that can carry comfortably 8 soldiers in battle order, which is quite important to deliver a full squad of 8 men (2 fire teams), compliant with French doctrine. Many other IFV only carry 6 men at best.
8 hommes c'est un groupe (one squad). je pense que tu voulais dire 2 équipes (2 teams)
@@allanzanaboni2857 Oui, enmelé les pinceaux avec les equivalents anglo saxons
Actually it's seven, and at the expense of vehicles firepower
@@norbi1411 It's 8 and 2 extra men are more flexible and worth it over lets say the 40mm CTA canon Nexter offers for the Export version of the VBCI. Also 25mm rounds vs 40mm you carry over twice as many ammo, can kill more infantry, it's an Infantry Fighting Vehicle not a an anti armor fighting vehicle, extra penetration is not that interesting. We have EBRC Jaguars or AMX 10 RC cavalry vehicles dedicated for that.
@@Frencho9 But there's seven in the back(six previously).
Extra penetration is not that interesting? That's really funny considering basically everyone is putting 30 mm cannons and ATGMs on their IFVs and APCs.
Not to mention US Armys plans to put 50 mm Bushmaster on the OMFV.
Napoleon is smiling from heaven
Very few people think napoleon is in heaven. But after studying him more I'm starting to think he might be.
@@johnharker7194 whatever peoples opinion on him are , ones gotta admit, his life plays out like a movie
I would be highly interested in a video about the german infantry squad.
So am I!
The German infantry is good too.
Making the HK416 your standard issue rifle is an impressive move by the French - superb weapon system. Great video! Edit: I presume French special operations guys will be equipped with HKs, too (just more room for modification) - can anyone confirm this?
H&K gave us a great price. 300 million € for 100,000 rifles
@@Kookanoodles that's 3,000 per gun. Not a great price at all. HK charges the same price for MR 556 for the civilian market.
@@leileijoker8465 The contract also included a lot of extras: 10,000 under-barrel grenade launchers, cleaning kits, transport cases, blank firing adaptors, multiple magazines per rifle, etc
@@leileijoker8465 in 2020 and beyond u aint getting m4 prices when the u.s. switching to sigs your gonna pay and if its german pay them your good
@@leileijoker8465 German politics are basically against their own arms industry, so HK will take every deal they can get. And to close such a deal with Germany's closest ally is a win-win for HK and the German government.
Love that at 5:49 , you used the picture of a Canadian firing a French weapon
Probably from Quebec (joke inside) ^^
@@khaelamensha3624 Actually... he is
@@qboxer Bonne année nos cousins de la Belle Province ! 😉😇😂
@@khaelamensha3624 et vous aussi!
For what it's worth, France invented the modern rifle squad by the year 1916 in the trenches of the First World War. The squad was two teams--a machine gun team crewing the M1915 CSRG "Chauchat" machine rifle, and an assault team with one or two riflemen armed with VB rifle grenade launchers, too.
That LGI was an interesting weapon.
It's interesting that France seems to have replaced the bayonet with the Glock 17. I've been retired from America's military since 2010 and I'm not really current on military affairs--if I ever was--but I was of the opinion that soldiers needed both a pistol and a rifle. It will be interesting to see if that holds up. Even in the First World War close combat was a reality and those on the front lines could expect to be raided at any time. When "the front line" more or less disappeared in the Second World War, all troops needed to be constantly armed. Low intensity conflicts had NO front nor rear areas and are the norm for military operations.
we always use bayonets.
they are still in staffing with the HK
@@TheTrooper501 Thanks--I never can be sure because the only constant in military affairs is constant change.
@@alancranford3398 To the guard of prisoners, a bayonet is still useful, it has more fear factor than a "naked" rifle.
Don't worry, we remain very rustic and practical, especially in Africa. We the French created the bayonet... and still use it today. In addition to the Glock 17, FAMAS or HK416 F and the rest.
That's a lot of ammunition to carry in Griffon, VAB or VBCI vehicles or on man's or woman's back.
God I'd love to see these units in action in a simulation like Combat Mission. So many possibilities for squad level firepower of that magnitude.
In this vidéo you can see the "300" and "600" in a heavy battle in afghanistan v=hbHmbw7pIyY&t
If you talk about simulated combat, look for recent CENTAC or CENZUB videos on CZcams
Fier de notre armée.meme si j aurais voulu qu on ait des armes made in France hk 416gluck scar c est du bon .force et honneur à nos gars 🇨🇵✌️🇨🇵🇨🇵
Voir sur écrit « Made in Germany » sur nos armes… qu'elle tristesse.
Un Famas 2.0 aurait été nickel.
I get a glock, you get a glock, everybody gets a glock.
Not us Americans, we got issued that piece of shit Sig M17 LOL
Glock master race
@@ravenks1sr15 ask your seals and other sof community. still using the good ole G19
@@pedromiguelalmeida4446 I'm talking from the conventional side of the house. Not SOF btw
French Gendarmes have mostly the Sig Sauer 9 mm and before we had MAS G1 (french version of Beretta F92) and before MAC 50 (french 9 mm built in 1950)...
FN: develops SCAR-L and SCAR-H combo to equip squads with similar close and long range rifles that share parts and training
HK: develops 416 and 417 combo to equip squads with similar close and long range rifles that share parts and training
FR: 'We will take the 416 and SCAR-H'
This was mostly for euro relation to please our german "friends"...
But mostly, the 416 cost less than the scar. It was the reason that USA don't provide it. And at the test, reporting said that the scar buttstock is fragile.
The 417 was desîgned to replace the frf1 but FNH put french gov. To the court for choose HK so they choose the PR.
As a french, i am happy of the 416. Even if i would prefer a french made rifle. The scar and the ARX 160 was close
You gotta admit that "Grenadier - Voltigeur" sounds way cooler than just "Rifleman".
Like some (~40%) of the English vocabulary, the majority of the ranks come from the French language.
Excellent clip. Juste have to say that "Grenadiers Voltigeurs" do NOT have side pistols in normal time. There are not enough Glock for that
it depends on the regiments, I know some who are fully equipped with pistols
Hell ya. Oldest and truest ally 🇺🇸
Yes!!! I'd argue this. France has been with us throughout US history - in the revolution with naval support, they gifted us the Eiffel Tower, helped us during numerous continental issues, allies in WW1&2. What else? Forget the UK (our oppressors of 1776 and thin-veiled communist state today) or Israel ("our greatest ally" who takes our US $$$ and gets us in more trouble than they're worth).
3:04 that's very interesting. I don't know of any other large militaries, or even professional militaries in general, issuing a handgun to all infantryman.
I’m honestly impressed
Thank you, very useful for my Arma French squad!
Tell me more 😏
@@pyth3rex300 I create some quick and dirty single player scenarios in the editor using french equipment. With this I can finally structure my squads as real as it gets.
Those scenarios are nowhere near ready to be shared with anyone, it's just to fuck around in the editor
Interesting firepower for such a small group. Also interesting that they keep napoleonic terms such as grenadier and voltigeur (light infantry).
All military words in English language provide from french do you know ?
And Brigade or Army corps was a napoleonic creation ...still use nowaday
Throwback to when I was 17 and almost flew to France to join the FFL
French Army use also the new MG FN minimi in 7,62 mm with the old one in 5,56mm
Hi, you miss the second in command squad leader, usually a Caporal-Chef or Caporal-Chef de première classe. Sometimes, l'équipe 600 use a mag58 instead of minimi (M249 in US).
Jamais vu 600 utiliser une Mag, c'est le groupe Eryx qui a la Mag. Par contre 600 a des fois une Minimi 7.62 en opex notamment.
Et aussi l'adjoint est souvent l'un des chefs d'équipe, il n'y a pas souvent d'adjoint qui n'a que ce rôle sauf si il faut que le groupe soit 8 (2 quadrinomes) comme en sentinelle.
@@Tunechi241 On a pas le même boulot.
@@RoroBar-k8e On est simplement pas du même régiment.
I love the little 51mm mortar. It's a neat weapon for a squad level.
France to get rid of the rifle grenade? The rifle grenade is such an iconic piece of French kit.
it"s not finish for the rifle grenade. Because for the french hk146 you can take the refle grenade on the barrel.
I freaking love the FRF2 rifle.
Also a video on the Franco-German brigade would be interesting. :)
They run som god gear, especially that HK 416.👍💪 Viva la France!! 🇫🇷🇪🇺
That networked sight unit is interesing. Throw a hub/gateway in a back pack or squad/platoon vehicle and you could relay the images to FOs/FACs/MFCs, HQs/int cells - or directly to supporting elements, such as aircraft or arty units.
Throw in some image processing and you can probably get some really good insights.
Give it a few years when you can fit a laser rangefinder, GPS and magenometer (compass) and you will be able to tell exactly where on the battlefield the shooter is looking/engaging.
A video on the belgian infantry would be fun
I'd like to see a Dutch TOE set out
would be laughable yes
Man, congrats for your nice videos!
I wish I could see one of those studying the Brazilian Army squad, with the new IA2 rifles and its optics, dismounted or mounted capabilities within the new Guarani APC's program... That'll be interesting!
Best regards and a happy New Year!
From a German : many Anglos love to trash talk France, particularly the British (because they are profoundly jealous of the French, knowing that the French have a far more refined and sophiticated culture, and knowing that everytime France and England went 1 on1, each time, it was France that won. That happened 3 times in history. I am talking about wars, not just battles).
The truth is that France has the second army in the world, second to the USA, in 2022.
Their Air Force is better than the RAF, their French Nationale Marine is slighty better than the RN , and their army just whipes the floor with the Royal Army (who is just the shadow of what it was decades ago).
And let me add that : what happened in 1940, it was the exception in French military history, not the general rule.
Germany and France have let in the past 350 years of total hostility. Never forget that the French conquered Alsace and Lorraine (historically Germanic lands, part of the Holy Germanic Empire) , and mostly : occupied Germany for 14 years under Napoleon Bonaparte. That, the Anglos never mention it. The last ones who have conquered Moscow, it was the French.
In 2022, they have top military tech , totally under estimated by the anglos.
The British talk so much S about the French and constantly mention WW2 to get a pathetic little ego boost only because it enables them to hide the truth : without the USA by its side, the UK is nothing at all nowadays. They are totally in the hands of the USA.
The French aren't, they are the only ones who have retained a fully integrated, independent military industry, and they have developed their own nuclear capabilities in the 60's. Now, in 2022, if they want to use nuclear weapons, they can. The British on the other hand wuld have to ask permission first to the Americans.
I am glad that now Germany and France are top friends, true allies and we are the EU.
Glad that France never forgot the abject betrayal of the British, when Churchill vetoed 200.000 French soldiers based in England from taking part in D-Day, only for the British to then mock the French for decades "we liberated you"... no, you didn't... it was the USA who did 95% of the job in Normandy. In so many areas (at Bayeux, Falaise, Wissan, etc.. ), the Brits were unable to break our German boys depite total air superiority, and had to call the Americans to the rescue.
The French deserve massive respect. It was thanks to 40.000 French soldiers who gave their life that the British soldiers could get on their boats in Dunkirk. That, the British never mention it. What a disgrace.
Europeans know the truth.
Thank you, I can't wait for Germany to be rearmed, so we will be together totally able to defend Europe against any threat.
The best tribute a solder can obtain is the respect of their enemies...
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Feld Marshal Von Küchler chief of XVIIIth Army of the Whermacht about the french in Dunkirk (30 000 french against 160 000 germans with Panzer divisions during 10 days and nights) in his war diary book " Despite our overwhelming numerical and material superiority, the French counter-attacked in many places. I can't understand how these soldiers, often fighting one against twenty, still find the strength to fend off every attack. It's amazing. I find in these French soldiers the same flame as in those of Verdun in 1916. We cant penetrate anywhere and suffer terrifying casualty. "
And the best : "(Battle of ) Dunkirk give me the evidence that the french soldier is one of the best in the world. The french army saved probably Great Brittain from the defeat, allowing their professional army to reach the english coast."
And about BEF ?
Nothing special.
Except during Singapore battle when 105 000 English Marines and colonial troops surrendered (with a real and massive white flag) to only 45 000 Japs
I'm not European and I agree. I'm tired of the limeys claiming that they won WW2, when they only contributed 6% of the troops and could not pay their own way
I'm not European, I lived in London for 2 years. The British are very uncultured people. I thought it was just Eurotrash until I went to Germany for vacation - The Workethic, Professionalism, and cleanliness were off the scale. In almost every metric the Germans were just better people. But the rest of Europe in my opinion is better than the Brits
Honey wake up, battle order has posted again
The theme Im seeing so far is:
Elements are getting smaller while getting more firepower.
I dont know if this is a good thing. Fewer guys means most gear are carried by fewer guys. Unless they have a way to deal with the weight,thats a heavy load as time passes by.
I wonder how they will handle tactical movement with less bounding overwatch due to fewer guys.
You can't beat demographics
Modern (western) militaries moved away from the 'mass armies' of the early to late 20th century. They're much more like the small professional volunteer forces of the 18th/19th century. Somewhat like the British in the heyday of the British Empire.
This video is about mechanized units, they don't have to march long distances, as they fight near their vehicle. The squad size is limited by the vehicle. A 10 man squad is still quite large for a mechanized unit.
@@scratchy996 that makes more sense. Thanks, should have watched it to the end before I made my comment.
The French are known for their reliability and ruggedness. Walking 20km with our gear and even more doesn't scare us. Granted we don't have much mobility, we don't rely on our vehicles and can keep going while dismounted. On combat though, the AT4s are usualy left in the vehicles.
Pistols(handguns) were generally and historically seen as "Officer's" personal weapons or a Cavalry weapon. Regular Soldiers(Privates to Sergeants) would get Rifles, Officers would get Pistols. It was like a "status symbol" in different National Armies for centuries. Soon it became a symbol of duels which were common in the 19th century - which evolved into gunfights in the American "Wild" West, in both cases a dispute was usually being "settled" by civilians with Pistols.
This stereotype of Pistols only started to change when Machinegun crews were organized and Snipers had to fight in Urban environments. Machinegun crews already had to carry a lot of equipment, and giving each soldier a Rifle or Carbine only added to that load, so some of them were issued a Pistol as a personal defense weapon in case they were unable to use their Machinegun.
Snipers usually had to carry Bolt Action Rifles into a city battle, where they were not always practical, especially trying to move and fire inside a building with a limited amount of ammunition and no room to maneuver. So giving Snipers a Pistol(even a Revolver) improved their ability to defend themselves at shorter ranges in crowded spaces. Some Snipers did this without being ordered to do this, Soviet WW2 Sniper and Marine Vasily Zaitsev carried a captured Walther Pistol with him to use at short ranges.
Is it practical to issue a Pistol/Handgun to each Infantryman? If you have 1 million soldiers, maybe not. It is an additional cost for the Military Budget and it requires additional training, as well as adds weight to a soldier who has to carry a helmet, possibly some type of body armor, a backpack, additional magazines(ammunition) for the regular Automatic/Assault Rifle and the Pistol, water, possibly a portable radio, as well as other supplies/equipment. If the soldier always has some form of transportation then he(or she) may be alright. But if there is a long march up mountainous terrain any additional weight may become undesirable.
I understand that the French here are emulating certain types of Special Forces who we often see carrying a sidearm(Pistol), and Special Forces are seen as "elite" around the World. If not entirely practical, showing regular Infantrymen with Pistols - projects an image that the French Army is an "Elite Force".
Fascinating breakdown of a squad to 300m and 600m fireteams. Seems the squad sizes are a bit thin to specialize at the squad level though. Does anyone else do it this way?
Russian squads use a similar system with a 6-man dismounted element. They either split into a fire group of 4 with RPG+MG and a maneuver group of 2 riflemen or they split into two even fire teams of 3 with one group having an RPG and the other having an MG.
@@842wolves
Yes and they shoot their tank turret from distance to support the infantery
Do more french stuff!!
bro ive seen you cover all major militaries except india .... could you make one on the indian tactics\doctrine?
Also awesome vid and a Happy new year
@Random Pickle i think this also one of the reason it makes it interesting also i espicially want to know about their moutain warfare tactics (they fought 7 conlicts in high altitude ) and are said to be best in mountain warfare ....
I can think of no better advertisement for the HK416 (designed by Germans on an American pattern) than it being adopted by the French as a standard issue weapon. That has to be a _really_ good rifle.
Vive la France !!! I love your video ;)
Great video, so much useful information for my research project
nice video battle order 👍
Thank you 👍
@@BattleOrder no problem
Eryx is a 137mm wire guided ATGM mentioned at 0:48
I had to look it up cause I wasn't sure exactly what he said
Actually they are in the process of being phase out in favour of long range version of AT-4...
Till the seventies, French infantry AT bazooka was the LRAC 73 mm, then the LRAC 89 mm till end of the nineties. in the nineties appeared simultanuously the RAC 112 mm and the Eryx. We had also and still have some, the AT MILAN system : a filoguided missile efficient up to 2000+ m.
God I love the new VBMR and EBRC.
Personally I love the new Jaguar light tank, even though it is yet to be proofed by experience !
I am pretty sure the optic on the SCAR at 0:22 is a Schmidt&Bender
Upon reflection, the firearms news article that reported on the first units to receive delivery of the SCARs may have gotten it wrong.
@@BattleOrder errors are normal
Np
It’s a good day when battle order uploads
Could you do the New Zealand army infantry squad or the NZSAS patrol squad please? Keep up the good work my bro! Love from New Zealand 🇳🇿
There’s a platoon level graphic on the website but a video would be pretty dope. The NZ Army is small enough that they could cover the entire force and it’s be pretty cool.
excellent video buddy... one correction though, the SCAR is being delivered with 1,1-8x24 Schmidt & Bender scopes...
Yeah, the article we read on the first deliveries got it wrong: www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_september_2021_global_security_army_industry/french_1st_regt_of_spahis_receives_fn_scar-h_pr_precision_rifles.html
The French military is on point. It was awesome to be able to train with their legion. Tough dudes with a solid warrior culture that means business. But they stay fairly well equipped and Europe has been asleep for some time now but they seem to take defense seriously from the infantry to cyber warfare. This little upgrade is a nice addition. 🫡🇺🇸🇲🇫
and with this we see the death of the french domestic arms design and production. RIP to the F2 rifle.
We should have a European arms industry. It makes no sense for every country to have their own arms industry. Germans produce tanks, French produce aircraft etc. etc.
@@generalripper7528 why?
@@norbi1411 It's more efficient. Imagine you have to write an essay for school. Alone you'd have to write the introduction, main part and conclusion all by yourself. But as a group one person can focus on the introduction (France on aircraft), another on the main part (Germany on tanks), and another on the conclusion (Italy on frigates).
@@generalripper7528 I get that it’s more efficient but it’s still sad that the tradition of the French arsenal system is now completely dead with the phasing out of the FAMAS and the MAS-36 derived snipers. Those arsenals date back to before the Franco Prussian war and have so much history attached. It’s like something special is lost. But then again maybe I’m just sentimental for the berthier and hotchkiss.
@@generalripper7528 Yes but you loose industrial know how which is incredibly valuable as illustrated by how many countries are trying to acquire it (China, Turkey, India, Pakistan, etc.)
You also loose sovereignty which so far has been one of the biggest french strength.
10 year airborne infantry (11B) here. i do like the local support by fire idea but it destroys the bounding over watch drill, which is the base pillar of infantry movement. rarely will a squad act alone some support from other squads is to be expected. but thats generally speaking of patrols. on objectives, squads act alone and it will be harder in ways without two equal teams. having only one assault element of only two joes and a team leader is not enough, especially if one goes down. the whole squad is combat ineffective while giving aid or evacing. i would like to see the weapons squad ditched from the platoon and have a third element of a local support by fire added to each squad making three teams. along with a heavy squad (240's)attached to the company mortars platoon and they would provide support by fire for the company and each squad would have its own once on the objective. the weapons squad has to shift and lift at that point anyway.
The french seam more standoff than the us. With rifle grenades mortar and mg at its disposal. Not really focused on the assault but more on lighting opfor the fuck up.
It just requires different drills to the modern American ones. The two equal fire teams was adopted in the Army in the 1950s so it's pretty well ingrained in how the US Army does things, but many nations throughout the 20th century and into today (including the US Army during World War II specifically) have run asymmetrical elements within the squad that break into an assault element and a support by fire element. Which is superior is debated in these circles and in my opinion is largely situational.
@@guidodegroot6911 we have twice as many at4's per squad, twice as many belt fed's per squad and two javelins per platoon. not to mention a tac and fist for arty and cas. your reply makes no sense.
@@BattleOrder superiorly debated in circles? what circles? circles of people other than 5x vets? and you said situational. exactly. this way is set up for ideal situations. all it takes is one casualty and that whole squad is useless. seems to me a poor mans solution by asking so much of a few. this is a paper tiger solution and the result of debate circles lol.
@@paul123ggggggggg at-4 is is bigger and bulkier so you wouldn't carry them on goot patrol if not needed. Belt-fed systems are in there fire support squad (also higher up). So that wouldn't matter. But what i meant is that there carry an mortar and rifle grenades (at least last time i checked) which weigh less than the at-4 and give More indirect fire options and explosions arplayed opun there targets. Cas being effectief at range. Can't really be used in cities or close engagements which the hand held mortar can. And if not m he can be used in the assault team.
I'm surprised to learn that my country has one of the greatest force in the world. I've always heard we were lacking both materials and manpower. 🤔
That said, I'm no military myself...
Merci pour la vidéo ! 👍
That mortar weapon reminds me of the Imperial Japanese "knee mortars"
Same here ^^ well the japanse one did break quite a lot of allied legs lol
The French using very light mortars is nothing new. Ian from Forgotten Weapons has a video on a 1930's light mortar that is so small you can place it on a table...
the rifle grenade F1 is not replaced, french army order a special version of the 416 that inclued the possibility to fire it. the french 416 is a mix of all various version of the other 416, in the base of the hk416A5, like the Norvegians who had special requierement for theire 416. The old famas stay in service untill they are completly out of service. The famas is still a fabulous weapon, that can shot 1000 shot per minutes, with a barrel made by beretta. it was ahead of it's time, like the citroen DS 21 and the concord plane
Ready to clean up french suburbs!!
If it could be true!!
The French squad seems like an evolution of the WW2 era US Army squad with a maneuver element and a base of fire element. (Except with waaaay more firepower for both sections.)
It is an evolution of French practice. Squads split into maneuver and fire support elements was the standard for most countries for half or over half of the 20th century, and are still in use in places.
If I can add something, in a VCBI or Griffon there is always a pilot, gunner and chief (sergeant) so there are 3 people in a vehicule with HK and G17
Who leads the dismounts? Bravo/600m Team Leader?
@@BattleOrder Every sergeant are under the command of a lieutenant in the back. He give the order that the sergeant has to applied with the section and groupe de combat. Idk if it answer your question :)
@@charlie4091 I mean like if the chef de groupe stays in the VBCI like you say, who is the person that is directly leading/directing the squad on the ground? Surely it has to be one of the chef d'équipe
@@BattleOrder i think he said that the griffon and vbci are manned by a 3 men crew, with the dismounted 8 soldiers group in the back
@@dasif_ He did say the first half of your sentence but not the second half about the dismounts, hence why I'm seeking clarification.
3:08 impressively professional video, but just a quick comment at this minute. All of the Gen 5 Glock 17FRs have been delivered.
Full delivery of the order was completed in October 2022, with 74,600 (out of the 74,596 ordered) units in total received. France received four more pistols than they ordered, for some reason.
French combat units are very capable.
did you doubt it ?
The French get some nice toys damn.
@4:20 Grenadier-voltigeur would be a class of infantry, the word you might be looking for is 'fantassin', eg a fantassin in combat engineers would be a 'pionieer', in the troupe de marine 'marsouin' but classed as grenadier as they kept the red épaulettes, a legionnaire once completed training would be classed as grenadier voltigeur, assault troops with a light infantry roll, hence the green/red épaulettes, other regiments and branches have their own bits, light infantry and recon would come under voltigeur. it's an outdated system going back to the early 1800's nowa days everyone is trained near enough the same, it's the history of the individual regiments that have the carry overs. Anyway nitpicking aside have a like and a happy new year.
Happy New Year, Battle Order! I look forward to more of your excellent videos in 2022!
I was in 2REP in the early 90's and had a completely different battle order. This is interesting though, particularly the three man fire teams. The logistics are going to have a challenge on their hands, supplying all these individual calibres, different grenades, mortar bombs and AT munitions, not me get into POL and batteries. I'm also not sold on the different accuracy competence. To me, every fantasine should be required to be accurate out to 600 metres, and if that requires the SCAR, then all should have them. I worry that the issue of 416 is a half measure due to a lack of confidence in the standard one can expect of today's recruitment processes. It's been an established fact since WW2 that the individual soldier should be equipped with a rifle of a minimum 6.8 mm calibre and I think the British experience in the Falkland Islands settled the matter for good, but the atrocious marksmanship displayed by the US forces in Vietnam derailed the entire matter all the way up to present day.
That was not intended as an insult towards the US military, it was meant to highlight the consequences of a combination of the tactical situation as well as a doctrine of fire superiority. Parts of the US military are the finest infantry soldiers the world has ever seen.
And how does Falklands or Afghanistan apply to European Theatre of War?
@Random Pickle You know an awful lot more about ammunition than I do, so I'm not really in a position to have much of an opinion on it. Suffice to say I'm willing to accept anything you say about the subject. About the Falklands, I think it's an ideal example of an argument against the weight issue. Both sides used FAL, the Argentinean version full automatic capable. The British experienced protected, long distance battles and despite the almost complete lack of motorised support was capable of sustaining the individual soldiers with ammunition throughout. For Goose Green I believe they had access to a couple of civilian tractors to haul enough cargo to not even running low in the sustained fire role of their MMG's. Would I be right in guessing you served? If so, you know that reaching further, more accurately is what saves the day for the poor fxxker trying to make the other poor sucker die for his country.
That said, your knowledge about the bullets is impressive and I'd love to hear more about it.
I served in the French army and know the only reason for the FAMAS in 5.56 mm was to comply with NATO, which adopted that calibre only because that's what the US wanted. Pretty much all European forces wanted 6.5 mm, 6.8 mm or to stick with the 7.62 mm. They had to fall into line with the US though as it was the US who paid for NATO.
@@norbi1411 I don't even.
And it's going to change again with the NGSW if it's applyed. Not only new weapons to replace the current in use, also completely diferent ammunition and calibres. One dent more on NATO standartizations...
well the van is getting replaced by the VBMR Griffon and a vehicle arriving the French army soon called serval which is basically a smaller version of the griffon kind of like the oshkosh mrap
No VAB il y en aura plus ça sera remplacé par les nouveaux véhicules donc par les Griffons
French army guy here, I have never seen a GV with side arm pistol, but hey maybe it’s because I’m in the artillery.
Je pense que tu as raison, j'ai quitté en 2001 le 16°BCP pour la gendarmerie et à l'époque, même les sergents n'avaient pas le MAC 50. Seuls les Sergents, chef de char (tout le temps) et les serveurs LRAC 89 avaient parfois un MAC 50. Je pense que le PA niveau Mili du rang, cela n'est pas encore généralisé. Même si, une rumeur persistante a dit que les MAS G1 (beretta F92A faits sous licence française par la manuf de St Etienne) avaient été transférés de la gendarmerie vers l'AdT quand il a été abandonné par la maréchaussée pour prendre le Sig Sauer. Je n'ai jamais pu confirmer cette rumeur.
Les Forces Armees Francaise ( Armee de Terre, Marine de Guerre, Armee de l'Aire, Forces Especees) are rather Professional, Proficient, Patriotic Military Forces of the Republic of France ,doing Their Own Duty to defend the Citizens and Country of My Ancestry. VIVE LA FRANCE !!🇺🇸🇫🇷🛡️🗡️⚔️💣💥
The French roll dirty. That's alot of heat!
shock and fire sound way better than alpha and bravo
Some really nice kit there, modern and well thought out😎👍
More content on Europe, please. English language sources are sorely lacking.
Small issue at 4:20. A grenadier-voltigeur isn't a rifleman at all. A rifleman is a heavy infantry focused entirely on their rifle. A grenadier-voltigeur (which could be loosely translated to "grenadier-skirmisher" is lighter, more mobile, and has explosive capability in the from of AT4s & rifle grenades (which the 416-F can fire... in theory). I'm not sure the French army has anything equivalent to a rifleman.
The basic rifleman (MOS) in the french army is called a "grenadier voltigueur". Its a tradition, not a name in phase with the purpose / armement of the soldier :)
The French Grenadier-Voltigeur does exactly what a Rifleman does in Anglophonic countries (U.S., Australia, Canada, Britain, etc.). A U.S. Army Rifleman will even carry basically the same things, a rifle and an AT4. What you are referring to is older traditions that mainly give lore/character to current day stuff but don't actually have a lot of bearing on modern roles.
@@LouisK L'un n'empêche pas l'autre. Ce n'est pas parce que le G-V est le biffin traditionnel de base de l'armée française que dire qu'il est l'équivalent d'un fusilier est vrai. Ils n'ont pas gardé le terme « que » par tradition : compare les groupes de combat des autres armées de l'Otan : la présence d'un élément explosif dans le rôle de rifleman est l'exception plus que la norme. Et, quand c'est le cas, ces groupes gardent tout de même un grenadier dédié ou un chef de groupe avec un lance-grenades. Et c'est sans compter les grenades à fusil (qui sont, il faut l'admettre, probablement en voie de disparition). Donc, oui, le G-V est bien un rôle à part qui n'a pas d'équivalent exact dans les autres armées; je veux bien croire qu'il soit employé en pratique aux même fins, mais le résumer à « c'est pareil qu'un rifleman » est une erreur.
Il eût suffi de dire « employed the same way as riflemen » ou « Used in practice the same way as riflemen » =)
@@lefr33man C'est tout à fait vrai ! Merci pour les précisions
French army does have rifleman at group level. Initially the "Tireur d'élite" (literally elite shooter, Marksman or rifleman) was equipped with FRF1 then FRF2, in the nineties appeared the Hecate II PGM 12.7 mm which changed the things with its very long range action. In the nineties, I was sergeant in the 5th RI (mechanised infantry regiment), it is the one which tested new mitary systems and guns for french army, like the PR4G (very advanced radio, best in her time when done), Hecate II, Minimi 5.56, RAC 112 etc... I have been in charge of the instruction (IST : Instruction Sur le Tir) for a month. It was a conscript tegiment at those time and thi prestigious regiment called NAVARRE (created in 1494) was retired from the french army in 1997 due to the professionalisation and the abandon of the conscription programmed from 1995 to 2000.
French army is full of traditions : the term Grenadier-Voltigeur is a generic name for every pure infantry men here, we may use also "fantassin" but the traditional name since decades is "GV or Grenadier Voltigeur)... "Cavalier" (or familiar : Cavalo) is the base man of Cavalry, "artilleur" for artillery, "Sapeur" for Engineer units, etc... for each "arme" (military sort of subdivision), french army has a name for the base soldier.
Also, we have a name for different elite units : Légionnaire (Foreign legion), Chasseur (equivalent to Rangers but we only say batalion for the big unit (elite infantry)), Chasseur Alpin (elite mountain troops), Chasseurs (equivalent to light armoured cavalry on AMX 10 RC or on Sagaie, and we don't say Batalion but Regiment only to mark the difference with Infantry Chasseurs), Tirailleurs (former elite colonial troops), Gendarmes (still an army but has left the army ministry for interior secretary) etc ... Complexe, yes, but french army is on of the oldest institution in Europe. France is also considered the 1st united nation in Europe too, 1000 to 1600 years of History, depends on the Historians which are querelling about lol
4:38 The mix of metric and Impreial units is frankly off-putting. To save the labour of conversion for the benefit of other viewers, the penetration figure is 406.4 mm, although I believe it to be just 40 cm.
Very well made and researched video, but I feel you could have talked about the enire infantry platoon instead of restructing yourself to the squad ! Would be very interesting to see additional videos on the French army like its cavalry platoons and in general, the SGTIA and GTIA concepts !
Would like to see what a modern German (Panzergrenadier) squad looks like.
Excellent video, more video about the french army would be great !
The Aimpoint seems like a strange choice when so many countries are adopting magnified or variable magnification optics for riflemen.
Probably because it's a European company, the French hate having to buy out of house.
Their one of the few European countries with a defense industry.
They can see what happened to the skeleton in the UK's closet regarding it's defense industry
@@hermes6910
I know, I was just poking a little fun at some French Nationalists that are probably prowling the comment section.
Well, in reality on the new Hk we only use the Eotech, Aimpoint was for the FAMAS INFANTRIE
France could have easily built their own AR. Either short stroke piston or Stoner gas system. Here in America a new company starts seemingly every month, milling out ARs that are often superior to the standard issue colt M4.
I thought it strange that France didn't opt for this. Because the tooling is available and relatively inexpensive. A production armory could have built within two years. And France could have probably taken orders from her former colonies to help cover the cost. HK makes a fine enough rifle. But nothing that couldn't be replicated.
They now have compact CNC machines that can mill the upper and lower receiver out of a block of aluminum. The barrel tooling shouldn't be too different than the FAMAS. Or the barrels made in Belgium by FN are excellent.
@@johnharker7194
Yeah but it's much easier to just buy them
the reason they switched for HK is that the FAMAS F-1 was not suitable for " système félin " because of it's shape
ps: also because the factory that started to manufacture them in series in 1975 manufacture d'armes de saint étienne is no longer in service thanks for sharing : )
Americans give the French too little respect.
Seems like they have much same thinking as Germany. And pretty good taste in equipment.
Viva a la France 😎👍🏻
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