MacArthur and the Emperor
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Following the Japanese surrender at the end of World War II, Gen. Bonner Fellers (Matthew Fox) must determine whether Emperor Hirohito should be hanged as a war criminal.
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And so, in this historic moment, the foundation for anime was planted
Anime/Manga started in 1907
lel
@@user-td2jw9ze2cwhy are people on this website so pedantic? I highly doubt anime would exist in a world where most of the population was busy dying at war
More like the degeneration and westernization of anime or manga, which started many years earlier
@@user-td2jw9ze2c Just as the seed for liberty was planted long before the tree bore fruit.
The actor playing the emperor is the same actor who was the Japanese boy in the film Empire of the Sun.
No fucking way!
Its a small world after all...
You'll never guess who played Batman then. 😉
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
ps: I was there as an extra. (US Soldier)
@@dieglhix wait, you were an extra in Empire of the sun? Did you meet Ben Stiller back then?
Tywin Lannister said that when you enemy bends the knee, you offer you hand to lift them up, not crush even further, book Tywin
Le Japon méritait l'humiliation l'humiliation
It would depend on the enemy,
Well look at Germany and Japan after WW2 compared to Germany after WW1. The same mistake there was recognised and avoided.
_”When your enemies defy you, you must serve them steel and fire. When they go to their knees, however, you must help them back to their feet. Elsewise no man will ever bend the knee to you. And any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king at all. Aerys never understood that, but you will. When I've won your war for you, we will restore the king's peace and the king's justice.”_
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723like how exactly it depends?
Douglas MacArthur, the last Shogun.
by shogun, do you mean someone who pays war criminals and allows them to get off with their crimes? read up on unit 731
@@subliminaljuggernaut7278 yup he was the man in power doesnt matter of what he did, that is what a Shogun does
@@subliminaljuggernaut7278 It technically makes him a Shogun since he was a military man in charge of Japan while Emperor himself is mere figurehead.
@@subliminaljuggernaut7278chinese and korean propaganda
A title that surely did not go to his head or inflate his already enormous ego whatsoever 😂 still, fucking badass 👏🏻
MacArthur: It's not my fault the Emperor came crawling to me. You brought this upon yourself.
Siguen viviendo de la fantasía.
manque d'humiliation
The Wrath of Amaterasu upon her people, using the Gaijin as the Rod of Chastisement.
Imagine being a US Servicemen who has been through 4 years of war against Japan and then hearing MacArthur effectively say to the Emperor, "We're gonna put you back together so you can help us"
I never served a day in uniform ... But after dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki I think this was the right move for the United States and Japan.
Imagine being soldier of Imperial Japanese Army side. Swore loyality to the Emperor till death.. Finally surrendered to their enemy, swallowed their pride, took away their dignity, and facing the same offering - from their former adversary..
@@roelmd8907and most of them abandoned and hated by their own countrymen who they sweared to protect. Lots of them, having no limbs. Were Insulted and isolated.
Its the civilized thing to do. It's what separates us from the barbarous Asians and Africans
@@roelmd8907imagine being a young girl from China only to be a lab rat for the most heinous crimes and experiments to be conducted on you by the Japanese.Justice was never served and Japan got away light handed so you could antagonize the bloody commies for nothing.
Imagine world history if the allies treated Germany this way in 1918.
Outstanding comment!
General John Pershing takes a photo with Kaiser Wilhelm II. Amazing. 👍
After years a brutal fighting the allies(the French) wanted to every minute left in the war to take as much ground as they could.
Relentless in their imperial ambitions even after the war, they effectively unleashed heavy sanctions against who they considered the aggressor of the worst war to ever occur.
To put it into perspective, it would have been easier to ask who didn’t participate in the war than to ask who did.
Million lost loved ones and millions died in what was effectively a German invasion of the rest of Europe.
The allies gave no quarter in its punishment as a form of deterrence for all the good and *BAD* it could cause.
They simply couldn’t imagine a worse outcome the what had just occurred.
Just like privet Henry Tandy, they had no way of knowing the extent of their actions that day.
President Wilson did not. He told British and French not to.
@@crusader2112 Wilhelm II had already been overthrown in the German revolution, such a photo would have had to have been with Friedrich Ebert as head of the provisional government, which would have had less of a psychological impact
Fun historical fact, gen Bonner fellars spent many many years in Japan an in his early life…. This gave him the tools to navigate the incredible social barriers to make such a peace possible from a diplomatic standpoint. He quite possibly saved the lives of millions through his diplomatic efforts, which is why the emperor holds him in such a high regard and offers him such tremendous respect! 🫡
He was demoted after tho right? Any reason do u know of?
@@yeyongei believe fellers rank of Brigadier General was only a temporary rank granted for him, temporary ranks are usually granted for people assigned tasks or missions during war and after conflict is over they usually go back to their previous rank which is why he was demoted back to colonel. After ww2 ended 212 other army generals were demoted as the ranks were merely wartime ranks.
@@VEXPERO If i recall correctly he failed upward
Yeah and what about the thousands of GIs in the occupation that were beaten by the Japanese and it was never announced?
@@yeyonge Kind of but not really.
One of the greatest ironies of WWII was that Japanese soldiers believed they were fighting and dying in service to their Emperor. None of them knew he was against the war.
Hirohito was not against the war, he just wasn't the driving force behind Japanese policy.
@@TheZerech Unfortunately as soon he disagreed with the military council he was placed under house arrest and disappeared from public view. This was intentionally kept secret from the rest of the Japanese military and society, which would have most likely revolted and very possibly ended the war.
@@fettfan91
Do you mean near the end of the war with the failed coup, or before that?
He wasnt lol. He supportrf when its gping well and he regretted when japan is falling apart 😂. Hrs just opportunist, but hes not a militatistic like tojo 😂
that's not true, that was part of the US revisionist history implemented in japan in 1946 . the real thouhts of the emperor could have been either way
My grampa and I have loved movies together for over 25 years.
He passed away today and the last film we watched together was emperor.
It will always be special for me.
Very sorry for your loss
Sorry for your loss friend, I'm glad you have a lot of happy memories together with him :)
Thanks for your kindness.
Movies were a passion we shared.
Probably learned it from him.
We watched at least one movie together almost every week for practically my entire life.
In the hospital I’d bring my laptop to watching movies with him.
We also watched Kong skull island, Olympus has fallen and Conspiracy while he was in the hospital and the last movie we watched before we went to hospital was M3gan.
These movies will always hold a space in my heart and be forever grateful that even if he wasn’t the genesis of my love of film he certainly fanned the flames.
He died at around 1am yesterday and we watched Emperor earlier that day while he was still remaining conscious. He wasn’t focusing much on it, understandably, but whenever there was a scene with Tommy Lee Jones and my grandpa heard Mr Jones speak, his eyes moved to the screen.
It’s official that Tommy Lee Jones as an incredibly authoritative voice and magnetic charisma that it was able to make him pay attention even with advanced dementia, respiratory depression, a morphine drip and less than 24 hours left to live.
@@jimmy2k4o It's heartwarming knowing he passed while spending time with someone he loved while doing something he loved. Both my grandmothers suffered from severe alzheimers so I understand dealing with dementia. Those moments where they remembered me were like little golden nuggets in an otherwise very hard situation though.
@@Ragazar I’m so sorry.
I must say that his dementia was vascular so it seems to affect his mobility and vocabulary but he never forgot us.
Compared to Alzheimer’s I always thought us lucky.
I’m Sorry for your losses too.
As I understand the photo taking session was kind of messy they took like three tries to get it right.
Sounds like an average tiktoker
@@Baegitte nah, it takes a tiktoker ten times that.
@@BaegitteDouglas was very particular on pics
@@williamwest9204 yeah, sounds like an anverage tiktoker
@@Baegittebro really tried to compare MacArthur with tiktokers😂
On September 27, 1945, Emperor Hirohito met General Douglas MacArthur at the US Embassy in Tokyo, a pivotal encounter where Hirohito accepted responsibility for Japan's wartime actions. Despite controversy and speculation among the Japanese public regarding the meeting's circumstances, Hirohito's role was instrumental in Japan's transition from a militaristic regime to a democratic government. MacArthur praised Hirohito as sincere and liberal, while the Emperor subtly supported the Allied occupation through published poems. Hirohito's regular visits to MacArthur bolstered the legitimacy of the American directives in a country accustomed to imperial authority, aiding in Japan's transformation under the Supreme Command Allied Powers' guidance.
One of the most poignant things they did was that picture of Hirohito and General MacArthur side by side. It robbed the Emperor of his deification by his subjects.
@@matthewriley7826 No, the image itself didn’t immediately strip Hirohito of his divine status, it was part of a series of steps taken during the post-war period to redefine the Emperor’s role in Japanese society.
Over time, Hirohito’s role was redefined to that of a constitutional monarch, distancing himself from the former divine status attributed to the Emperor, although the complete shift in perception among the Japanese people took time and was influenced by various factors beyond just a single photograph.
Rebuilt the Japanese Economy, gave them back power over their own nation. Japan is like the 4th Largest Economy in the World today.
Yeah I don't think the US are the bad guys here.
@@LordDirus007 After the war, most of the food aid the United States provided to Japan was low-quality wheat used as livestock feed. Furthermore, after 1955, as Japan recovered and gained economic power, the United States tried to unfairly contain the Japanese economy through export restrictions and other measures. It is true that the United States helped Japan, but that is hypocritical, and as a Japanese person, I cannot honestly express my gratitude.
Also, while I am not claiming that Japan and Germany were not at all at fault for World War II, I would like you to keep in mind that the United States and European countries were also major causes. Germany was cornered by excessive demands from the victorious countries due to its defeat in World War I, and by the Great Depression. Japan was cornered by the Great Depression and discrimination against Asians.
To show his appreciation, Emperor Hirohito arranged for General MacArthur to advertise Boss Coffee in Japan later on.
As an emperor Hirohito was weak, he was unable to control the radicals in his army. But as a person I think he new what was right and wrong. He understood that the actual responsibility lay with him as head of state and as the spirtual guide of Japan. In the end he was willing to take the punishment away from his people and take it on himself. Luckily for him, the Americans understood the far reaching influence the imperial cult had in Japan. And rather punish him, cooperated with him to lead Japan through the hard post war years. A major difference to Germany. Then again Germany had to be occupied through force, Japan surrendered just before this could happen and was rewarded with less repression.
The cultural differences and the strategic location of Japan means they cannot let Russia take it
You're adding nothing new to the discussion.
Very true...and its such an interesting dynamic with the Emperor knowing things were wrong and not able to control anything even though if he said 'end the war' it would have ended.
@@kulio1214 I wasn't aware there was a discussion in the first place...
@@Excalibur01 Yes, exactly.
MacArthur deliberately posed informally in the photo to show the Japanese he was the boss
Emperor Hirohito had the balls that Hitler or Mussolini never had, he standed in front of his enemies and faced the consequences, even if many acts were not his fault. Total respect.
faced the consequences? really?
Mussolini was killed in combat btw.
@@user-km3yu9dx9c What? Mussolini was executed along with his mistress.
@@Evil0tto He was captured by partisans and killed, what I'm getting at is that he didn't really have the option to meet with the western allies.
@@user-km3yu9dx9c he was captured while fleeing and executed 28 april 1945
If Kaiser William II had been similarly treated and allowed to remain as a figurehead, would it have avoided the rise of Hitler?
Probably not the Great Depression killed much of the World reconstruction.
Possibly, though the best thing they could have done was make sure Germany’s economy didn’t take and the German State was able to keep its dignity. The Kaiser had a coup against him, the best chance would have been an abdication in favor of a humble heir
Short answer, nope. Complicated and incomplete answer, the Weimar Republic had a built-in constitutional kill switch called article 48 gathering way too much power into the executive branch.
Totally
No but the “War Guilt” fuckery in Versailles would have been much harder to maintain.
Who would have thought that Emperor Hirohito would visit to US and Disneyland several years later.
Shaking hands to the Emperor is a big disrespect to him in the eyes of Japanese people but the fact that he did't mind doing this shows that he lay down his pride and honor in order to save Japan.
It was also a way for MacArthur to show that, whatever respect he was willing to show Hirohito, ultimately he was in charge. He reacted to Hirohito like an American, offering a handshake. No bowing and scraping.
Well, a couple months earlier Hirohito literally walk himself to shake the hand of Indonesian delegation Ir. Soekarno thats suprised the entire room including Ir. Soekarno and other Indonesian delegation
Out of three 1:15 axis leaders. He's probably one the least insane in there.
"What are you doing after the war, your Majesty?"
"I'm going to Disneyland!!"
Well Japan have a culture of the Shogun being the real power behind the throne and the Emperor being the spiritual leader. General McArthur fit in nicely as the white Shogun.
2:00 this is really a cultural barrier between the westerners/countries which were westernized and the Japanese. The westerners and other countries who are being westernized mostly greet with a handshake when meeting another person, while the Japanese people greets 「よろしくお願いします」 with a bow when meeting another person.
The Slavs salute each other with a handshake, but in a Funeral no one touches each other and they just bow. In the Lunch which normally follows the burial, everyone washes their hands three times. Actually, I believe this has very much to do with disease prevention, rather than just a tradition.
On the other hand, the deceased is buried shoeless, so he won't be able to walk if he resurrects. And when leaving home for the very last time, the gasket is raised and lowered three times meaning "this is not your house anymore and your soul shall not stay lingering here". Now, _that_ is superstition!
I observed all this in my Ukrainian Father in Law's funeral, plus the Orthodox Liturgy in which the deceased too held a _lit_ candle, and found all that very unusual to a West European. 😬
Musicians must be hired too, at least a violinist and a trumpeter. And the next morning the close family will have breakfast by the grave and leave a slice of bread and a cup of _Vodka_ or similar Spirit. (which will be promptly pilfered! 😀)
Good Old Ukraine. I miss it so much. ❤ 🇺🇦
@@duartesimoes508you killed the tsar.
@@duartesimoes508 no such country as ukraine, nor such ethnicity as ukrainians. furthermore, do not speak for all Slavs, because we have different customs, given we are a really diverse group that is united basically only by language family - and all of yours are totally alien in my country. btw handshake is not western per se, it developed independently around the world.
@@AaronBiswas the long noses did, for all it's worth.
Wasnt it actually even forbidden to touch the emporer?
I think it's not wholly fair to say Hirohito was weak. The senior military command culture in Japan had developed to a point of counterproductive and arguably mutinous warlordism. At times the services were almost at the point of fighting against each other. Distrust ran rampant and cooperation was impossible. There's very little Hirohito could have realistically done.
Plus, Hirohito had been elevated to near-godhood by those immediately below him. If he went "yeah, nah, fuck the war, we messed up big", the entire country would most likely go "Bro, what the fuck?! You're literally God of this whole shabang, hakku-ichiu and all that?! Mandate of Heaven?! Fuck you, fuck the monarchy!"
I mean their society have been this way for many many year
The shogun (millitary leader, second to the Emperor) is in charge and have all the power
@@joelthorstensson2772 actually no, the emperor doesnt speak normal japanese, he speaks a dialect that makes him sound like latin to italians.
MacArthur had a rack of ribbons that was unparalleled. He wore a very modest uniform quite unlike Patton. Both were egomaniacs but remember Patton was a junior officer in the Great War while MacArthur was a battalion commander.
@@MyHentaiGirl
その通りです。
１０００年くらい前から、天皇に政治的主体性は持っていませんでした。
日本において「天皇」とは、国旗と同じです。
From what I've read, seeing the Emperor used to be forbidden in Japan. They honoured him by turning their backs to not steal a glance.
So, what General MacArthur did here changed Japanese History forever. That photograph he arranged forever affirmed the Emperor as a mortal, and that from henceforth, Japan could continue to exist and cooperate with the US, on American terms.
Hirohito went on a state visit to England in I think 1928 and there was a photo of him smiling that got banned domestically. As per the Time-Life WWII series volume “Japan At War”, *it made the emperor look too human* .
The photo also accentuated MacArthur's towering presence versus Hirohito's short stature. The Americans got it right choosing to rebuild (West) Germany and Japan with the Marshall Plan and MacArthur's leadership. They realized the mistake made by the allies leaving Germany in financial ruin after WWI as that gave rise to Hitler and the Nazi's. Japan had to be westernized and exposed to democracy or they would slip back into feudal imperialism.
@@davidw.2791 indeed. This time though, Japan had completely no say and I think that makes this photograph with MacArthur far more poignant.
@@scottsmith6631 The photo reminds me of the negotiations between the US and China in Korea. After early negotiations, the Americans noticed the Chinese cut the American's chair legs, affecting the US's later negotiations.
It was Meiji who ended the practice of the emperor should not be seen by commoners. He was also the first emperor whose picture was taken by modern photographic camera.
in real life the photo of MacArthur and emperor Hirohito was taken thrice. One was cancelled because Emperor’s mouth was open and other was also not accepted because macarthur’s eyes were slightly closed
It was also a power stunt from MacArthur. We did good by helping Japan re grow but MacArthur wasn't stupid he knew if he forced the emperor to take a picture it would shoe who's really in charge why else would he demand the title of "Supreme commander"
Ами закрыл глаза... Когда японец своим ртом... Полировал его орудие линкора
Even though I'm not Japanese myself, as a Brazilian I can offer some context regarding Japanese culture and pride.
Not many know this, but Brazil holds the largest Japanese population outside Japan. And their culture has been ingrained into ours for over a hundred years.
In Brazil there was a movement called Shindo Renmei, roughly translated as The League of the Subjects' Path, as in subjects to the Emperor of Japan. They were a nationalist, loyalist society of Japanese who didn't accept the defeat of the empire, or the assimilation of their people into another society. They carried out hits of Japanese immigrants who they considered as traitors, killing about 23 people and wounding another 147, mostly Japanese nationals.
TIL
There is a famous film about that episode ""Corações sujos"
Powerful scene. Good actors.
Jj! Nice to see you here!
Really like to see more of this kind.
I love the way massive CZcamsrs with huge followings are occasionally hiding in a random comment sections.
the film still sucks
@@FlagAnthem😂 Yeah. It really does, but this scene almost redeems it…. almost!
The nukes calmed Japan, the Soviet Red Army scared it and the Americans' kindness is what trully conquered it in the end.
yankee kindness y'say?
@@kohtalainenalias Oh, boy... here we go.
The Soviets were the real threat. Nips weren't afraid of the nuke. It was the soviets that truly scared the japanese
That’s actually the most succinct summary I’ve ever seen, although i think pacified might be a better worded than calmed.
@@Antimanele104kindness 😂
*extends hand*
???
“What? I ain’t kissin’ you.”
A man taking responsibility for actions he committed as head of state is not weakness at all
My grandfather fought in Europe and was assigned to GHQ in Tokyo after the war. (I still have his signed photo of MacArthur given him when he rotated back home.) He and his family treasured the friendships they made with the Japanese while there. My grandparents' house was liberally decorated with Japanese artworks they brought home with them.
盗品なら返して
泥棒との間に友情はありえない
@@uA-gy8wk He did not say that the artwork was stolen. They were probably tourist trade knick knacks that he presumably bought
They speak from a position of abysmal ignorance, but they're not smart enough to realize it. @@sgabig
They speak from a place of ignorance, but aren't bright enough to realize it. @sgabig
マッカーサー元帥、名演技だね。格の違いを見せつつも、相手に対するリスペクト！再現映画とはいえ、彼の大物ぶりが伝わってくる描写でした。
Agent K is macarthur
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@@user-bo4yy1wz1h English translation
Outstanding film. Underrated. Watch it and make your own mind up
“Punish me not my people or my country”(I am paraphrasing here)- words of a man worthy to be called “Emperor”.
The Emperor wasn't as guilty as some people still naively believe; the military dictatorship, mostly Army-led, was to blame for the continuation of the war beyond acceptable. The shogunate in practice never ended. Later on the americans probably learned something of Germany in 1919: the sole way to prevent a Hitler was to not decapitate the social and historical structure for some cheap façade of a republic.
Well said
if you read up on the Japanese war machine, you will see that the Emporer was the final and ultimate leader, far more than Hitler. he absolutely knew that his forces were burying people alive, dissecting them alive, waging germ warfare against civilians, doing utterly terrible things that if I listed them would make you cry if you had any humanity. The only reason the Americans didn't pursue prosecution was because they wanted an advantage over them by using human experimentation data. The emporere sanctioned such things. The nasty dwarf.
Absolutely not, never and ever the Emperor of Japan at any point in the past 1000 years had more power than the military-political wills of daimyos and shoguns, much less over anyone akin to Hitler. It's simply the old western naive cliché of "monarchy bad" to think that something like Togo and the war party in the Imperial Navy would simply stop their intentions to hear what the Emperor had to say.
Not only that. The Emperor was kept under the supervision of the Allies in order to prevent the advance of Communism in Japan. Having a military presence in Japan would discourage any attempt of invasion by the Soviet Union, which it did.
No question. Anyone with enough influence on Japan - either the occupiers or a national government - could claim soviet-supported attempts to be an attack against the imperial power itself.
Johnny!! Look who’s back 😎
My Great-Uncle was captured by the Japanese on Corregidor Island in May 1942. He survived nearly three-years as a POW. Blinded by ulcers. Malaria paralyzed him from the waist down. He was rescued at Old Bilibid Prison in Manila in February 1945. He came home in October 1945, having recovered some of his sight and could shuffle walk. To top it off, his nephew, my Grandfather, who also served in the war, later came home with a Japanese bride, as Grandpa was also part of the Occupational Forces in Japan. Instead of showing hatred to Grandma, Uncle Bill was one of only two people in Grandpa's family that ever treated her with kindess. According to Grandma, he never called her names, belittled, or even raised his voice at her. Nor did he blame her for what happened to him.
Same with my grandfather, he was transported to Japan as a slave labor for Mitsubishi.
He spoke very highly about the Japanese. He always said not all of them were bad. There where good ones that were prison guards who risked their own lives, helping out the POW‘s.
Through this historical meeting we got the honour to enjoy the beautiful art of Berserk and Evangelion, thanks McArthur
Obviously the advisor to the Emperor missed the part in the Emperor's speech, " enduring the unendurable and suffering what is insufferable"
I like how Hirohito basically tells his diplomat to shut his ramen hole when he starts to protest.
I like how this showed MacArthur treated the emperor with respect, but in ways customary to American culture. A firm handshake, a commemorative photo, inviting him to sit, etc.
they choose the actors really well for this, they resemble the actual people they play a lot
Wow, Tommy Lee Jones playing Doulglas Macarthur. The original 1970's film with Gregory Peck I think was more impressive.
Don't be mistaken, it was in America's strategic interest to get Japan in a position to be an ally against the the opposite side of the emerging Cold War. It is all very sentimental and misty-eyed, but the US already had Japan under its thumb and could just occupy them as long as they want. Far useful to make them a self-sustaining ally.
Marshall's plan for Europe and MacArthur's rebuilding of Japan couldn't happen without Truman behind them. Truman was not appreciated by many in his own country.
@@DelAoc Taking office after the death of Roosevelt would be a hard act for anyone to follow. Guiding the country through the Depression and then through half of WWII. All while engaging the country to supply a large amount of arms and goods for the Allies was no mean feat.
Truman was certainly overshadowed by Roosevelt's accomplishments but certainly had some of his own with the rebuilding of Germany and Japan.
Legendary example of restraint. Why destroy your enemies if you can bring them back up as people on your side?
"Rule #1 and the most important, never look the emperor in the eyes"
McArthur: Me and my balls said no
Humility in defeat and magnaminity in victory. This is what all fighting should end with.
Thank you so much for uploading such an important moment in world history, so fabulously portrayed by heavenly inspired artits! I can´t help weeping profusely whilst beholding such a significantly beautiful event in civilazation´s own pathway of development, regardless of the petty material interests that follow along with it, much like the tare that still continually sweeps around the wheat. I am so priviledged to have witnessed it through such an amazing and cautiously realistic dramatization. tks again.
I highly recommend reading 'Hirohito' by Herbert P. Bix, who also won the Pulitzer prize for the book. The author lays down a very convincing case that the idea of Hirohito being weak or a puppet was also a fabrication; the man was in charge and in control from the start, and thus the blood is all on his hands. A very worthy read, regardless of where one stands on the matter.
Yes he knew, but MacArthur wasn't wrong in his actions, think of Iraq, Vietnam Afghanistan, I'd choose Japan occupation with all its flaws over the others. The Emperor's support was arguably key.
@@alistairmcnaughton1933 Lmao every nation that was occupied by japan would strongly disagree with you
But keeping him alive and used as a Public relations for ending the war is crucial.
It is true that legally Hirohito could have stopped the invasion plan, but Hirohito is not a cruel person. At that time, the Japanese economy was in a very difficult situation. Shortly before the war, it was estimated that more than 10 million people would be unemployed as a result of the Great Depression. The only solution to this problem was overseas expansion. In other words, Hirohito did not stop the war even though he had the authority to stop it because he judged it to be unavoidable in order to protect his own people.
@@alistairmcnaughton1933 Tojoboo detected.
Marines and soldiers simply being considerably taller than basically everyone in Japan must have had an effect all on its own.
Interestingly the office of Shogun is the military leader of Japan. And as McArthur was the military governor of Japan, you could say he was the last Shogun of Japan.
The way the US approached what to do with Japan post war was generally pragmatic. Even then the US leadership could see that they were going to need allies as the world was realigning itself. Also they could see that the best chance for Japan, and the same in Germany was for these countries to get back on their feet as quickly as possible with a decent economic outlook and some prosperity, and a stable political system. Hence they overlooked a fair bit of the wrongs that were done during the war.
It was the only way forward really.
Ironically, what the Japanese were given was quite similar to what was considered albeit briefly as an offer for peace to Japan before the bombs were dropped. Keep your emperor, access to markets and materials, just no conquering them and being disarmed I want to say. At that time there was a good chance that Japan would have jumped at those terms. Unfortunately they were trying to open negotiations through Russia to the US. The Russians didn't pass any of this on.
Like how the war ended with a height joke.
Size means a lot. Many in the Japanese navy leadership were against war with the US because they knew the difference.
For Hirohito, opportunism is both his doing and undoing
Little known fact: Tommy Lee Jones plays the same character in EVERY movie he is in. Same voice, same cadence of line delivery, same emotionless presence.
Two face, Space Cowboys, and the US Marshall movies would prove you wrong.
@@rannenw6207 Thanks for pointing that out Tommy.
Since being asked, "I need your help," Japan has continued to provide various forms of cooperation to the United States, including financial support.
that's how an emperor said, "punish me but not Japan"
Imagine a king who fights his own battles wouldn't that be a sight.
I believe the last one was Richard III who died in battle in 1485
@@hereward1975
And they flayed the guy who dealt the (ultimately) killing crossbow blow, despite Richard's wishes otherwise.
@@hereward1975 The last would be Napoleon actually. Though he didn't fight in first lines, he was active in artillery.
Then they wouldn't be able to make decisions because they'd be in the thick of it.
@@krunkle5136
There is that.
There's a reason Flag Officers don't (barring very extrenuating circumstances) give the orders, directly on the vessels on which they've planted their flag.
They might be the older sibling, but dad's given the keys to someone else. So best they can do, is say where they wanna go.
Also, if a General takes command outside of "balls-to-the-wire" direct-contact, the officers under them start feeling like fifth-wheels. And that's when they start acting-up, or at the very least, kvetching to higher-up about the chain of command not being respected.
So between maintaining perspective, and not irking those under you, by taking over their jobs, there's reasons for things.
Japan lost the war, but won the respect of the US. I really cant understate how significant that is. Respect is the absolute hardest thing to get an American to give. European countries that have kissed US ass for a century dont have close to the amount of respect Japan earned.
Just look at the roads. Americans love their automobiles. Tons of Honda/Acura, Toyota/Lexus, ect. Very little Citroyen/Skoda/Vauxhaul/Saab/ect.
It's also due to Japan not choosing to remain hostile. It could have begrudgingly accepted its loss with a desire to tolerate occupation, get it over with, and then get back to business as usual militarism. Instead Japan made the decision to change at a basic level. Americans, on the whole, don't hold grudges for long. "Don't start none, won't be none" seems to be baked into our national DNA.
(Not to say that America hasn't done some absolutely terrible things.)
I have to disagree that the UK and the US is another prime example of enemies turned Allies. UK and the US have nearly always universally backed each other in crises and disputes, especially over the last 110 years. True the UK depends on the US more than the UK but in many ways, shared history, a common language, an overlap in religious beliefs and legal principles, and kinship ties.
The Brits often might bad mouth the Yanks as the Brits say but beneath that crap talk the UK I believe respects the US very dearly.
USA and UK are both controlled by Zionists, Japan is just a lapdog. @@joshuagrover795
Americans fell in love with a little Nazi car the design of which was apparently sketched on a napkin by Adolf Hitler himself. Those VW Beetles were everywhere when I was a kid.
There are plenty of Mercedes Benzes and BMWs on American roads too.
@@user-td2jw9ze2c People like you are so tiresome.
Such an amazing moment in history which im glad served to create the strong bond, piolitically, economically, and militarily that the US and Japan share today.
Yeah they occupy Japan and Germany till today. Imposing american liberalism.
You mean colony?
Perhaps Bobby Lee's finest performance... Amazing what range that man has.
This was a fantastic movie. So well acted... and I think it at least presented the flavor of what needed to be done accurately.
3:34 It seems he didn’t get what he wanted, as literally everyone else BUT Hirohito was harmed
What do you mean?
Japan became the third strongest country and rise to immeasurable wealth after WW2. Wdym?
Those officials other than him made more brutal atrocities in Asia than the entire German atrocities did in the Holocaust, you think they just let them go
MacArthur played the Japanese and their culture brilliantly which led to the successful reconstruction of Japan.
Good attention to detail
until in 1950 japanese people though that a photograph will trap your sould that is why the japanese protested about the picture
they were protesting MacArthur touching the Emperor, who was still seen as a god
Maybe some rural yokels might have thought that but photography was quite popular in Japan
No, there were tons of pictures of Japanese people before that era, including the emperor, just look it up on google images, there are several images of them doing random stuff or posing.
The reason was that the general was taller than him and he was standing to the right of the emperor and it was symbolically seen as the emperor being just a small human. So the picture was more casual and not suited for the japanese propaganda. And usually women were standing/sitting to the left of the men on pictures so it also symbolized that the emperor's position was that of a woman's, and as such weaker/subordinate etc. And then the japanese press was hesitant about putting the picture on the newspaper but the americans insisted on it.
@@inkyzollerYup. What do they think the soldiers were bowing and shouting “BANZAI” at, but a PHOTO of the emperor? Photos are ok but the dude must be made to look dignified and stiff-upperlip and, well, majestic.
Is it me, or is Tommy Lee Jones always playing one WWII officer or another?
I enjoyed this movie more than I thought I would
What movies is this?
Big lesson of mending wrongs.
I might not like Dugout Doug, but he did a splendid job of honouring Japan's self-respect and turning it into his country's ally.
It’s wonderful seeing the Americans extending the proper courtesies to the Emperor, even bowing. As it should be.
“Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?”
One of the best examples in history of bitter enemies becoming staunch allies and friends is that of Japan and the United States.
and the US and Germany.
Tommy lee jones nailed the acting
One of the best crossovers of all time 🔥
19 years before General MacArthur passed away.
It's so weird seeing Tommy Lee Jones in this scene (I had no context what this movie is) after watching his Boss coffee ad he did in Japan. Straight up cooking new lore in my head how he went from this to making coffee ads haha
That's hilarious man hahaha.
And so they became best buddies 🇺🇸🇯🇵
Hey! That’s the guy from the Boss Coffee commercials!
Hirohito é responsável por muitas decisões errôneas durante a guerra e foi responsável por tal.
Japan becomes the tech buff while America because the military center
It is better to have friends over allies.
Thus began a friendship that persists to this day.
I was lucky enough a few years back , to have taken care of his personal photographer
Too bad the real leaders of ww2 japan had all thrown themselves into the tip of their katanas by then
Not Minister Tojo. He’d have to settle for the end of a noose.
@@jonathancarlson6127That and a slap on his bald head.
@@jonathancarlson6127 neither the Unit 731 😵
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Tojo tried to off himself
He just really sucked at aiming for his heart. The bullet only grazed it and he was saved (only to be hanged a few months later)
@@KalashVodka175He was sentenced to death by hanging three years later.
i think hirohito was the least responsible for the war rather than tojo
Hirohito had many opportunities to stop Japan from going down the path to war, but did not take them. His decisions led to the War in the Pacific, and to make it clear > the War was fought in the name of the Emperor. When the Americans let Hirohito go free - the Japanese (as they fought the war in the Emperor's name) were also let free. That is why the Tokyo Trials were quick to put the blame on those who would accept it for their Emperor. America let WWII War Criminals get away > history must remember this.
I lost any respect for MacArthur when I learned he covered up Unit 731 and paid them the equivalent of hundreds of thousands of USD for the “data” from their torture experiments. Some of the worst war criminals of Japan never saw justice over that corrupt decision. Was probably the right decision to leave Hirohito alone to foster trust and safety with the Japanese people to heal and grow bonds. Today Japan is a celebrated friend and a beacon of culture and industry.
Different era. There was massive fear about the spread of the Soviet into Asia. The US needed Japan's help at this critical time (post-1945). Yes, there was a lot of justice that was ignored for the sake of the bigger picture.
WHERE'S THE GOLD THOUGH?
The emperor was a very shadowy figure before 1945. He rarely made appearances, was rarely photographed, and when he was, he was always made to look taller.
This is because the emperor was a god.
This is different from the Christian or Muslim God.
the Emperor's role in the war is highly debatable
his involvement in the war will be forever debated, but it's agreed that he was instrumental in ending it despite ferocious opposition from radicals in the military and attempted coup
he accepted that he would have to cooperate to rebuild Japan and lead his people to a new era and so would not suffer another Hiroshima and Nagasaki
he went to MacArthur expecting the worst, but was surprised when MacArthur told him that it would be a partnership with him as senior and he would be spared because his help was needed
America's occupation had both political and strategic goals in mind, and MacArthur was determined to succeed where other conquerors had failed because of the harshness of their policies
the Japanese knew they were defeated and accepted the unendurable burden of surrender, but generally they were surprised that America was rather generous and forgiving towards them and did not want to destroy them (despite the atrocities they committed)
the Tokyo War Crimes was somewhat rigged because the prosecution was practically acting as the defense team for the Emperor and the defendants slighted their testimony to absolve the Imperial family and lay it all on Tojo
Tojo could of implicated them, but he accepted full responsibility because of loyalty to the Emperor
What has the Suriya Kulam (Sun Clan) come to with the Mongoloid Mixture.
Why did the emperor thank Gen. Fellers for his service to Japan?
His investigation of the emperor himself.
Watch the movie
Little know that Hirohito was a very reasonable individual.
The problem that led Japan to attack the United States was Hideki Tojo, his Prime Minister and one of his generals, who along with his cabinet put pressure on the Emperor to support the war.
Hirohito was kept away from secrets such as the massacre of Nanking in 1937, and other atrocities committed in his name, which is why he was not tried at the end of the war.
He must have felt remorseful, but the truth is that there was nothing he could do, his generals, his ministers were all in for the war, and in the meanwhile, he was busy studying science, his one true passion.
2:33 "how exactly are we all going to become acquainted with one another--oh"
The importance of this event is astounding. For thousands of years, the emperor was a veiled figure, akin to a god, but this showed that he was human, and there he was, mogged by McArthur.
Proof that at the end of war it is possible to move on, and look at tokyo now. Japan is by far the most interesting country, they've been through so much and have still ended up being the best city in the world.
Tell that to the Chinese who were victims of Japanese war crimes and never got justice for it
Just saw this movie today 1st time a very very good movie !! why is it underrated ?
Hirohito be lookin like Oppenheimer.
MacArthur, a 65 year old career army officer, had no necktie or decorations, and his uniform wasn't even pressed. The emperor wore a suit and tailcoat, that no US politician had worn in decades, and looked shorter thanks to MacArthur. That photo made Hirohito look like a Loony Tunes character. The same thing happened 40 years later when Reagan met Gorbachev. Reagan was 75 years old, came outside in his navy blue suit, looking fit and trim, with his Hollywood smile. Gorbachev, 20 years younger, was bundled up in an overcoat and fedora, out of style in the USA since WW2, and looked very stiff. The young Soviets thought Gorbachev was a beta male, and by 1988, they saw Reagan as the alpha hound.
MacArthur wasn't prepared for Hirohito. The rule was that the Emperor had to come to him but he could choose the time and the General would stop whatever he was doing and receive him. MacArthur just happed to be wearing khakis at the time the Emperor showed up. Macarthur changed clothes frequently over the course of a day to fit any occasion but he didn't want to keep the Emperor waiting.
Why did Japan and The United States became friends after the war was over
The mutual enemy was the Soviet Union and the Chinese Communists who were to seize power in a few years.
because the United States forces Japan to be its friend.
@@PotatoSalad614 No. You can't force friendship. The occupation was a mild one intended to break the back of the militarists and turn Japan into a constitutional democracy.
Because they both hated the communists