What is the DUNE experiment?
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- Big discoveries need big detectors, and Fermilab’s Deep Underground Neutrino Experiment is one of the biggest. Fermilab plans to shoot beams of neutrinos and antimatter neutrinos through the Earth from Chicago to western South Dakota. The DUNE experiment will study neutrino interactions in great detail, with special attention on (a) comparing the behaviors of neutrinos vs. antineutrinos, (b) looking for proton decay, and (c) searching for the neutrinos emitted by supernovae. The experiment is being built and should start operations in the mid-to-late 2020s. In this video, Fermilab’s Dr. Don Lincoln gives us the lowdown on this fascinating project.
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Missing you mentioning the large worms crawling around the detector , that are sometimes being ridden by the vicious local natives.
I am now studying psychology at university yet I have been watching your videos since I was in middle school. Thank you for everything Doc and Fermilab!
Glad i found out Fermilab's channel and Dr Don months back. Easily the best vids out there. Keep 'em coming! :)
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite Particle Physicist on the Citadel!
Shepard with Thu'um ... we're not worthy.
Glad to see there are some Mass Effect fans who are Physics nerds as well 🙃 (just like me).
@1Energine1 Hell yeah!
It's great to have you back again Dr. Don. I love your videos. I wish it didn't take so long to get DUNE up and running, but great science is worth waiting for.
Thanks for all you do, Dr. Lincoln and the makers of these vids
Happy 2019, hopefully many new videos to come, maybe even some findings!
The penetration power of the neutrino is something that, I never anticipated that there was such a device
Yaaaay!!! New Fermilab video!!! Thank you Doc! Happy 2019!
Thank you Don for these knowledge which you provide to us in the best possible fashion.
Cheers,
the neutrinos must flow!
:D czcams.com/video/jA-BRjujUF4/video.html
@@megavide0 It was a reference to the book "Dune"
Shit, I just tokkd the same joke :(
:)
Thank you for taking the time. Animations really helped too 😊
Great video: Fascinating! Thank You!
THANK YOU...
PROF. DR. LINCOLN...!!!
The dune experiment is spicy
+Thomas Chow The spice must flow! I demand it!
After reading the title, spice was the first thing that came to mind.
Very informative, thanks!
Very interesting video. Many thanks.
Great video, as always. How many oscillations is a nutrino expected to have in a distance of 800 miles though?
Very Nice, Dr. Don.
Dr. Don is so freaking cool!
I know right ???? I bet he is savage when grading students though
Most interesting and informative.
Wonderful video
This is amazing, thank you
Great video!
Rev up your engines for Dr. Don!
Don, another excellent explanation - Reason #4 for D.U.N.E. - keeping Fermilab from becoming another DuPage housing development. Visited Fermilab on several occasions (in-laws live up IL-38 in Wheaton). Place is both a major science research facility - and a really cool art installation. I remember when Brookhaven's Muon g-2 storage ring was trucked in - made the news all across the area.
DUNE could mean Deep Underground Nucleon-decay Experiment...
DUNdE just doesn’t ring a bell.
i realize I am kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to watch newly released series online?
@Carlos Hamza flixportal :P
@Jax Samir Thanks, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I really appreciate it!
@Carlos Hamza Happy to help :)
Another great video, Don. Don Lincoln also did a 24 lecture video course on The Theory of Everything, offered by The Teaching Company. [I was not requested to cite this course.] The course is basic and suitable for a first year university non-physics major. My daughter watched the video course and now understands a lot more particle physics. Several decades ago, William Fowler (CalTech Nobel laureate) was visiting a class I was taking. He loved joking about the solar neutrino problem (now solved), and that perhaps the solution was that our sun had died (because the neutrinos pass through the sun more freely than the photons, to over-simplify the matter - no pun intended). So, the diminished solar neutrinos detected could mean the sun died and within the next couple hundred thousand years (possibly much sooner!), we'd experience this terrible fate. He loved joking, and this seemed amongst his favorite jokes.
The vacuum collapse of the universe is a much more serious and possibly imminent threat. We don’t know how to predict when it will happen and we can’t see it coming even when it gets underway. I suggest panic now while we have the chance.
Link to the documentary please...thnx
@@stardust4001 Hello "Star Dust",
I presume you are referring to the Theory of Everything course that I cited in my comment. The 24 lecture course is commercially available through The Teaching Company. The course goes on sale periodically for considerable discount. Do not buy the course for full price unless you don't mind spending an extra couple hundred dollars. [I was not asked to cite this course.] You may alternatively watch the many FermiLab videos on CZcams for free.
I like this man.
Dr. Lincoln, I'm here about that quantum gravity report that was due last September - any updates on that?:)
The timing aspect of it will give us a precise measurement of how much this isolation occurs between these particles and direction
again, it is the legend.
Is it currently possible to use neutrino beams to communicate through the whole earth to eliminate the delay of having to curve around the surface?
I love Fermi lab
I hope they oscillate without rhythm. Otherwise, they might attract a worm.
I hope these new neutrino observations are highly scrutinized and not travelling faster than light again. That was both horrifying and embarrassing.
You mean without
There's a black hole at fermilab, you can see it in the intro. He's making all these videos as he approaches the event horizon.
Nice !
But...if they oscillate without rhythm, we'll never learn! (Movement for Christopher Walken dance in ProtoDune)
I'm really buried in neutrinos and excited about this experiment because finding out about neutrino oscillations was very exciting to me and the excitement never ends if you never want to be bored study subatomic particle physics
And the discrepancy between the mass it fascinates me to this day even with my basic fundamental understanding
Woohoo new Fermi lab
The tie type which seems to be the most massive with an incredible surprise to me looking at the minimum of mass of the other Tai particles
Oh snap, it's Dr. Don 'The T-Shirt' Lincoln!
This looks interesting..
1:55 - I love how the sun is just beaming neutrons in that animation. :)
Dr D, So it looks like neutrino rest mo is in the 10e-38 kg range or lower. SNO facility in 2002 or so found that neutrinos change types in transit implies positive m. 2015 Nobel for those 2 obs by SNO. Is the DUNE eqpt expected to get a good mo value? Also if mo differs for e, mu and t types which change at hi v, then is there not an E cons problem, since E^2=p^2*c^2+mo^2*c^4?
Fermilab is in Batavia, Illinois, about 45 miles west of Chicago. Dune is a great sci-fi story-- read at least the 1st book if you have time and are so inclined. Great animation cat to jaguar to tiger! Anti-matter neutrinos-- sounds like fantasy (to me).
That's my question what is the frequency of the oscillation, in proportion to the direction of the beam?
Is Dune being excavated or are the caverns already there? Natural or leftover from something else? How big, a mile deep?
What is the music that you use at the beginning and ending of the video ?
1.5 billion USD for the DUNE experiment.
Basic science is necessary but maybe let's build a functioning thorium reactor first. Because we really need it.
Why don't you take your whining to another more appropriate science forum. This is not the place for it.
What an awesome experiment.
Is anyone named Paul involved?
Dr Don could you do a 10 min talk on CP symmetry violation? Or maybe 12 min if that's a hard assignment
I liked this video. There, I liked it.
This guy is very smart. I learned a few stuff from him. Still am, thanks to CZcams.
How do you generate anti-neutrinos? Did I miss that part?
Is it possible to tell how far a activated energy, as a electric emission will travel without being on the opposite side?
The difference between a dry cell electric reach to a phone wire's reach while holding about the same energy level, so on, for thinking improvement in the future studies.
I actually know James Norris, he’s speaking in this next week on DUNE. He’s a good dude.
The far detector current design is for four modules of instrumented liquid argon with a fiducial volume of 10 kilotons each. The first two modules are expected to be complete in 2024, with the beam operational in 2026. The final module is planned to be operational in 2027
How about a video on what a point particle is.
I wish you were my teacher at school Dr. Don.
You wish that Dr. Don were not Dr. Don but your teacher at school? ;P
WAIT! so does energy always spawn matter and anti matter together? or is it one or the other? can Matter neutrinos change into anti matter neutrinos like they change from Ve, Vu, Vt? do antimatter neutrinos have 3 types too? and do they also change between them? how do we create neutrinos in the lab! and how do we focus them into a particle beam? if they only respond to the weak nuclear force how can we confine them and direct their motion? SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!! [EDIT:yeah i just watched the video again and you answered my question on anti neutronos changing their type 3:08]
Best questions!
Researchers: DUNE will be operational by mid 2020
Coronavirus: Hold my saarlac
I have a question about the four powers (electromagnetism, gravity, strong nuclear power, weak power
How did these four powerful forces separate from each other after the creation of the universe?
Is that weak nuclear force separated from that electromagnetic force?
When after the creation pressure and temperature drop, the fundamental forces seperate one by one. (In theory)
We have seen that with high energy the electromagnetic force and the weak nuclear force combine to what is called the electroweak force. And when the energy lowers the forces split again. It is therefore quite reasonable to draw the conclusion that this is what happened in nature too.
I'm curious, how do you make a neutrino beam?
@John Patriot eagle freedom boner
Nice : p
Lavish it with praise
May be from radio active decay
You can't create a neutrino beam with a current technology, it's a poor choice of words. It's more like a cone, once the "beam" reaches the South Dakota is about 2 miles wide. And it is created by accelerating protons, slamming them into a barrier, directing what's created through a magnetic field and into another barrier with a slit. And then once again thought a magnet and into a barrier with no slits. Hope that helps.
@@alektad
Yup. That helps. Thank you :D
I'm excited about our ability to generate neutrinos and direct them
1987a supernova
How do you make, store (contain), transport, & then launch anti-neutrinos from your device? What do you call your device that (launches/shoots/fires?) the neutrinos.
they aren't stored in any way. The are produced in a way that they leave the site of production in the desired direction.
Nice overview. Hate to be the groundhog in his borough in the path of the beam heading to ND.
The Fermi neutrinos should harmlessly pass right through the groundhog, exactly the way the Sun's approximately 65 billion neutrinos pass through each square centimeter of you every second. They are called 'ghost particles' for a reason. The surprising thing is that they can even detect any of the sent neutrinos in ND.
If the beam interacted with a ground hog, it would've interacted with the miles of ground before and it would be useless. The reason they can build it underground is that the neutrinos don't interact with anything on their way.
I was really excited with the neutrino oscillations, however I was not able to determine the. Of distance and I think it was 135 that the oscillations were occurring but I think that the oscillations occur inversely proportional opposite, of the neutrinos the neutrinos
What if, there's more than one Big Bang? Like, instead of one inciting incident, there have been an infinite number in an infinite space? So, for example, part of what we're unable to detect, but clearly has an effect, is the result of things like proton decay from previous explosions?
Is the dune experiment is still being built ? Please inform us , so that we could know what will happen
Yes they are
Kickin' that ass!
does it have anything to do with the weirding way ?
Could the quantum entangled to the antimatter equal of each partical it becomes? In order to explain the amount of antmatter?
antmatter is creeping particals in dirt holes (like black but braun)
What is the music lol at the beginning and the end of the video?
It also casually disproves flat-earth due to angle of beam and depth of sensors.
Does Kamyokande measure anything coming from Fukushima ?
Say, I live in south Dakota this is not new news to me, haven't we been using Homestake mine for physics for quite a while now? Shooting neutrinos - sounds like the new Wild West!
I trust you’re going to make another video explaining the DUNE data, when it becomes available? ;-)
And when data will be available and analysed, you will hear about it from many sources !
can proton and antiproton form a 'nucleus'? I'm guessing only insignificant amount of time.
a key to dark matter or no time for energy exchange
short version
Energy exchange limit or limit for two point to interact.
it is a bit hard to write down this thought for me.
if two points have relative speed more then speed of light, they not able to interact.
but they can interact through the third point. (exactly like dark matter)
long version
For a long time trying to communicate with physics to clarify my theory.
with all and all main point here.
-dark matter in our galaxy, (most likely particles emitted by central black hole)
is particles that moving faster than light. (most likely you do not "belive" in this)
if i assume it is correct, then big amount of hydrogen on edge of galaxy, is where this "dark matter particles" decay after losing speed. (decay like new particles from hadron collider)
-parts of dark matter alredy found, but we do not about it. (perseption(particles from hadron collider))
-particles found with hadron collider behave like a dark matter after loosing speed.
-most likely there is a energy exchange speed limit in betwen two points (not sound speed),
most likely it is a speed of light. (that about why we do not see dark matter, but see it interction with other(slower for it/faster for us) particles)
-particles from hadron collider will be stable if placed in faster then light speed.
whant to tell more, I hope this is enough to contact me.
the key is a energy exchange speed limit
(i want my Nobel for showing you dark matter)
Best regards,
Dynin A.I.
How does DUNE compare to the NOvA far detector?
how can we be sure that neutrino reactions under the ocean/in the earth's core aren't detectable?
Obviously, it was 3,000,000 vs 3,000,042
Its explains Life, the Universe and yes......Everything!
Nope, if that was true the universe would have ceased to exist and been replaced by one infinitely more complicated.
@@k_tell hehehe You mean the one where the answer is "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
@@keanueraine entirely possible it has happened multiple times :)
@ I think you missed the fact that this thread is a tribute to the late great Douglas Adams. @john started the thread by saying 3,000,000 vs 3,000,042, which was a reference to the fact that, in the Hitch Hiker radio series, "42" is the answer to the "ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"".
However, in the radio series the problem is that no one knows what the question is.
Later it is said that some people believe that if the question and the answer are ever known at the same time then the universe would cease to exist and be replaced by something infinitely more complicated, and further that other people believe that this has already happened.
If @john and @train Jackson were correct then both the question and the answer would be known in the same universe. If the hypothesis above was correct then the universe would cease to exist.
Hence my comments. They had more to do with literature than Physics, sorry!
How about a little more about how the neutrinos are being made and how many per second? And a little more about the mechanics of their detection?
You can read the public TDR (Technical Design Report) of DUNE, search them in arXiv. You can also check LBNF
Duning Don
The last super nova we've seen in the milky way was 400 years ago. Surely we're due another one.
@ScienceNinjaDude Yeah I know, but I really want to see one before I croak. I can hope.
That's not how probability works
@@maxmccormick3376 Did you just comment that without reading the other replies? Sloppy man. I mean there were only two of them.
Herbert's "Dune" references in comments in 3, 2, 1...
Well, I don't see any...
Hello from Bosnia i would love to know how you detect neutrinos when they dont interact with matter? Also i would love to know how you plan to differ neutrinos from star from neutrinos you send from your lab?
The key for the Detection of neutrinos is the structure of the underground Detector, that is actually a huge Time Projection Chamber TPC, filled with about 17K tons of liquid argon at -186 °C. Inside each TPC, DUNE will have 3 or 4,there are many Detection Systems, designed to detect specific particles or Photons. All the weakly signals will be digitized and transmitted to the surface. Neutrinos will interact because of the conditions of the LiAr, including a high electric field applied to the gas by a high voltage power supply, thousands Volts. We can distinguish between neutrino beams and external neutrinos, by using discrimination techniques and taking advantage of the Detectors calibration. This is not the ideal space to explain that deeply, I Just can say DUNE is a very complex and hard project, really a challenge and it is a privilege for me can be part of this collaboration and put my part in DUNE
@@jfcastanof thank you for good and understandable reply i am just curious biologist willing to learn so answer fullfiled my curiosity :)
How do you differentiate between neutrinos fired from your source and those coming from the sun?
Most likely the angle of the debris field after the collision in the detector.
The direction.
direction is not so clear, but the neutrinos from LBNF will have a different energy and a precise timing, so they can be distinguished from the solar/reactors ones.
Was that a pun on Neutrino chirality? You know, when he said he was a trifle deaf in his left ear?
Holy shit nice catch . Are you a physicist or just extremely smart ?
If neutrinos hardly interact with normal matter, I am very curious to know how we focus them into a beam.
We don't focus neutrinos, we focus particles which decay into neutrinos, the rest is done by momentum conservation.
Dune is magnets in every direction, haven't you seen the movie trailers?
My father was Geoffrey Mills.. RIP, dad.
Can you foresee making something like DUNE smaller and putting it on a space telescope to measure supernova?
How am I just finding this channel
"Buried in Neutrino data before you know it."
He made a funny.
After what we have seen even without the justification and running through the data we cleared it our senses had indicated something to us that moves totally outside the field the four basic forces
How in the world do you align the two locations that far away underground?
@John Patriot eagle freedom boner
Well hot damn! That tells me all I need to know!
Where do I get my cut? ;~}
What do you mean by align? The neutrinos are (I believe) emitted in all directions, some of them will end up in the detector, which can tell that they came from the lab based on the direction whence they arrived. Nothing has to be aligned. But if it had to, it would just be a matter of simple GPS calculations.
loooooooooooooooong time no vid :(
I hope it will be different from Frank Herbert's Dune.
+velox guess, I was hoping the contrary...
Once Dune is online, will the detectors, locally & remote, be seeing many more neutrinos than they would from existing sources such as the sun?
The neutrinos from LBNF will have a different energy and a precise timing, so they can be distinguished from the solar ones.
Does the weak nuclear force cause neutrino oscillation?
yes, but our theories can't explai why. All flavour changes are described by the standard model, which does not accurately predicts neutrino interactions and behaviour, so we are making experiments to adjust it or scrap it away
@, sounds like the weak force plays a very important role in exotic particle physics.
The weak force is weak to us because normal matter depends more on electromagnetism and on very small scales, the strong force.
@, the strong and weak nuclear forces are very different from gravity and electromagnetism in that they don't operate over long distances.
The weak and strong nuclear forces are purely quantum in nature in that they are just energy transfers.
@, the strong force is so strong that exerting the energy required to overcome its pull on an individual quark leads to the creation of virtual quarks in the form of quark/anti-quark pairs. Trying to pull a quark out of a baryon leads to the creation of a meson.
This phenomenon makes it meaningless to speak of the strong force acting at a distance since it just leads to the creation of new particles that interact with the strong force.
@ Neutrinos do feel gravitation as well (like everything; moreover it was confirmed they also have rest mass); it was just left aside here. While about the picture of force, this is only macroscopically valid. At particle scale all apparently-or-not continuous interactions are described by series of individual "kicks", even the rotation of an electron about a nucleus, continuously exchanging virtual photons. And this is not only for atomic level, same "kick theory" applies to the cathodic tube TV set. Is not that long-range EM and short-range weak or strong have different boson exchange picture. They have different properties, but the "force" concept does not exist anymore, is just a symbol to name a field. Welcome to the Quantum Field Theory.