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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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    Shonen Anime are known for their epic, earth-shattering fistfights, but those are just the tip of an unfathomable iceberg.
    Chapters
    00:00 Battling Shonen Stereotypes
    03:53 I Can’t Believe It’s Not Battles
    9:48 Gag Manga Supremacy
    15:47 There’s More To Slice of Life than Cute Girls
    23:20 Love a good Love Story
    27:55 Sports! of a Sort
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  • @mothersbasement
    @mothersbasement  Před 19 dny +77

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    • @2cookedbred
      @2cookedbred Před 19 dny +1

      love the fact you used a model of a store

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal Před 19 dny

      Sorry Geoff, but Urusei Yatsura is, and always has been far and away Takahashi's WORST work, utter garbage AND not even vaguely funny. The fact that she went almost directly from UY to Maison Ikkoku, arguably her very best work, is a mystery for the ages.

    • @holloify_tensa_zangetsu
      @holloify_tensa_zangetsu Před 19 dny

      how can a 3 second clip of Soul eater look better then most!

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    • @kellychuang8373
      @kellychuang8373 Před 19 dny

      Really can say good video and also it's tough being an anime fan especially now really have to know your stuff and also some other parts dealing a rivalry just heard Toonami came back now is 1 and others not all anime are a slam dunk I can tell you along with having affairs is another blunder.

  • @ade1174
    @ade1174 Před 19 dny +1415

    Light taking a potato chip and eating it is unironically one of the most iconic moments not only in shonen but in all of anime.

    • @kimbleangus7321
      @kimbleangus7321 Před 19 dny +61

      I got one of my cousins to start watching death note because I wouldn't tell him the context to that scene lol

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f Před 19 dny +6

      more like the most cringe

    • @dillonwolcott7655
      @dillonwolcott7655 Před 19 dny +41

      @@user-ku8yi5to4fthe butthurt is strong with this one

    • @tyinyk
      @tyinyk Před 19 dny +12

      Whether you think it's cringe or not, you can't deny that it's iconic.

    • @thatonelucariofan503
      @thatonelucariofan503 Před 19 dny +6

      Finger point of Gurren Lagann and One Piece, Anthy Himemiya packs her stuff and leaves, Dirty Pair trans rights moment, Shinji Scream, Ending of Ashita no Joe, would all like a word and have all influenced decades of anime I’m serious

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +1281

    Next Video: Seinen is More Than Just Violent Historical Fiction/Dark Fantasy

    • @SaltpeterTaffy
      @SaltpeterTaffy Před 19 dny +168

      Featuring, of course, Chii's Sweet Home and Aggretsuko.

    • @jodrako4341
      @jodrako4341 Před 19 dny +123

      Yes please! Dungeon Meshi is my favourite anime of the year probably and it really shows what seinen can be

    • @kingsleycy3450
      @kingsleycy3450 Před 19 dny +56

      Yeah, kind of sick of the dark=mature mindset that a lot of Seinen fans lives by

    • @years-ti7xl
      @years-ti7xl Před 19 dny +55

      Kaguya-sama is technically a seinen too so it's definitely not always about that dark stuff.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +16

      @@years-ti7xl That's the point I'm trying to make.

  • @aichmalotizo9873
    @aichmalotizo9873 Před 19 dny +296

    Man, when you said the gag anime part was over and you hadn't mentioned Gintama, I nearly died inside until you made it the butt of the joke. That truly is where Gintama belongs so thank you.

    • @joyc.e.7511
      @joyc.e.7511 Před 18 dny +19

      I was about to say lol. Gintama is the first anime I watched that was like that and I found it hilarious. A great mix of comedy, down to earth philosophy, action, and drama. The show's got every damn genre lol.

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +843

    I don't know if it still is that way, but in Japan there was at least a certain period of time when gag manga was more synonymous with Shonen than battle series.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 19 dny +126

      Dragon Ball was a gag manga, once

    • @gentlemandemon
      @gentlemandemon Před 19 dny +34

      they're not ubiquitous like they used to be, and varies between publishers, but gag manga at least always have a presence in shounen manga

    • @TheZajicekfarber
      @TheZajicekfarber Před 19 dny +17

      I would assume the modern shift towards more action can be attributed to The Big 3 (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach) global popularity.

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +3

      @@TheZajicekfarber I think since it was manga based, it was probably Japanese popularity.

    • @loft777
      @loft777 Před 19 dny +2

      @@TheZajicekfarber more probably to dragon ball especially z

  • @fangoram29
    @fangoram29 Před 19 dny +510

    "slightly warmer hands" could be such a curse in baking depending on what you're making

    • @MadHermit95
      @MadHermit95 Před 19 dny +83

      I can't believe Yakitate Japan has two whole mini arcs about that

    • @pedrojofre8289
      @pedrojofre8289 Před 19 dny +9

      ​@@MadHermit95 I remember the pie, what was the other?

    • @MadHermit95
      @MadHermit95 Před 19 dny +83

      @@pedrojofre8289 The final arc in the manga reveals the bitchy older sister has the "cold hands" which apparently makes her amazing at making tarts.

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus Před 19 dny +14

      I'm just glad I finally know the name of the baking anime my friend saw a fansub of years ago and never shut up about.

    • @MetronaJ
      @MetronaJ Před 19 dny +36

      I find it funny how surprisingly well researched the anime is when it features ACTUAL TIME TRAVEL FROM EATING DELICIOUS BREAD as a plot point

  • @shinygekkouga52
    @shinygekkouga52 Před 19 dny +290

    I think every battle manga needs gags, but not every gag manga needs battles. This is the power of gag supremacy!

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Před 19 dny +30

      Drama needs comedy to survive. Comedy can stand on its own merits though. The comedy in a battle series is pulling double duty, both as a source of humor, and as a tool to juxtapose our very un-serious heroes with an entirely too serious scenario. When the clown stops joking, shit's about to go down.

    • @AlexT7916
      @AlexT7916 Před 19 dny +14

      ​@@dontmisunderstand6041there's a reason why the best selling manga ever One Piece spends just as much, if not more time, on comedy as it does action

    • @mimszanadunstedt441
      @mimszanadunstedt441 Před 5 dny +1

      if you played jump ultimate stars there is a rock paper scissors between Laugh > Power > Knowledge

  • @Necroskull388
    @Necroskull388 Před 18 dny +13

    Ever since I found out Ancient Magus Bride technically runs in a Shounen magazine (to my great surprise), any time I hear "shounen manga" my brain immediately and faultlessly goes straight to Ancient Magus Bride.

  • @ambrosia777
    @ambrosia777 Před 18 dny +53

    Fun fact about AlphaGo, the Go computer Jeff mentions. It did take 2 decades after Deep Blue to beat the world's best Go player. But within the last few years, humans have started to beat it again. It's actually to a point where a switched on amateur, with the right instructual guide, can beat the super computer. Soooo still can't beat us!

  • @PredictableEnigma
    @PredictableEnigma Před 19 dny +138

    Coleen's Manga Reccs is the shoujo version of this video. Shonen isn't just battle. Shoujo isn't just romance.

    • @beeaggro2593
      @beeaggro2593 Před 13 dny +3

      hell most romance anime are shounen now

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 13 dny +2

      @@beeaggro2593 exactly! I adore Kaguya-sama and think Komi is pretty cute too but they aren't shoujo and don't feel like shoujo either.

    • @Syco07-pm3iz
      @Syco07-pm3iz Před 9 dny +1

      Isn't Kaguya a Seinen manga tho?​@@PredictableEnigma

  • @kingsleycy3450
    @kingsleycy3450 Před 19 dny +201

    Hikaru no Go is one of the greatest stories to ever grace Shonen Jump. I used to clown on it for being so tropey and over-the-top, but its readability was its greatest strength. It was my Ping Pong the animation

    • @ReaveIdono
      @ReaveIdono Před 19 dny +11

      I just rewatched the anime a few months ago. Fantastic series. Got me into Go.

    • @mmelanoma
      @mmelanoma Před 19 dny +7

      It's so good. The manga is still top for me, I kinda went from hating the end to loving it as I get older

    • @Chaosmancer7
      @Chaosmancer7 Před 18 dny +1

      I watched a little of it years ago, got into go a little bit... and have been meaning to get back into it for years.

    • @Pajali
      @Pajali Před 18 dny +2

      Completely agree. The story really uses its premise to its full potential, and the ART. The visuals alone made me want to learn how to play go.

    • @DrFerno727
      @DrFerno727 Před 17 dny +1

      It was my first manga and anime series, and it even became part of my Internet identity

  • @RoronoaZoroSensei
    @RoronoaZoroSensei Před 19 dny +35

    Ruri Dragon, a manga by a newcomer, still being hot after a year of hiatus, after just 6 chapters, sounds completely unbelievable. Except I was part of that from day 1 and I'm so happy it's finally back on!

  • @poputchik4910
    @poputchik4910 Před 19 dny +100

    Words can't express how happy I am to see ruri dragon on the thumbnail

  • @robertfaulkkner5508
    @robertfaulkkner5508 Před 19 dny +340

    This is Geoff’s own take to “Non-Battle Battle Anime” by Super Eyepatch Wolf from like five years ago. I’m all for it.

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom Před 19 dny +36

      4:42 well well well

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 19 dny +3

      Gonna watch that one again after this!

    • @kitsong
      @kitsong Před 19 dny +5

      Are there any non-battle battle series about healing? Think One Piece if Chopper was the main character.

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one Před 19 dny +1

      @@kitsong please tell me there's one at least!

    • @akaliislifeakaliislove5968
      @akaliislifeakaliislove5968 Před 19 dny +5

      @@kitsong I only know a bunch of korean manhwas about doctors who returned in time and stuff like that(e.g. Medical Return), and I guess Apothecary Diaries could count as one?

  • @Getwright-
    @Getwright- Před 19 dny +80

    On of my favorite current battle manga started out as a gag manga. Sakamoto Days Started out beimg all, look at this fat schluby convenient store clerk who’s actually really a competent former hitman, to being about all the most powerful human on the planet fighting each other

    • @mRboylls
      @mRboylls Před 14 dny +1

      It’s so good and I hope it gets an anime!

    • @sarahrawlinson6271
      @sarahrawlinson6271 Před 2 dny

      @@mRboyllsit is getting an anime! This year iirc!

  • @kathycoleman4648
    @kathycoleman4648 Před 19 dny +177

    Many people mistakenly think that shonen means 'fight' and shojo means 'romance'. But in actuality, shonen means young / teen boy, and shojo young / teen girl. They're categories, like YA, middle grade, fiction, non-fiction, adult. Not genres like romance, fantasy, sci-fi, or thriller.

    • @Aerafuz
      @Aerafuz Před 19 dny +27

      They're demographics specifically.
      One Piece is a Shonen because it's published in Shonen Jump.
      Rent A Girlfriend is a Shonen because it's published in Weekly Shonen Magazine.

    • @tomraineofmagigor3499
      @tomraineofmagigor3499 Před 19 dny +10

      Exactly. This is why it's annoying when I see people say "Shonen should appeal more to girls sensibilities" no. You should instead be asking for more shoujo. If you notice a romance shonen will show curves on female characters but shoujo will make the female characters all have the same curves that is none. The men in shonen romances look plain and average while in shoujo they're chiseled and full of sparkles
      That's just looking at romance comparing the two and every genre can show up in either

    • @donotreply8979
      @donotreply8979 Před 18 dny +1

      Explain jojo then​@@tomraineofmagigor3499

    • @elGonho
      @elGonho Před 17 dny +4

      @@tomraineofmagigor3499 Yeah, if they say that complaint specifically it might be uninformed, but I could totally agree with wanting to portray the opposite gender of the target audience in a less one dimensional way.

    • @tomraineofmagigor3499
      @tomraineofmagigor3499 Před 17 dny +1

      @elGonho what I see people say is that shonen should be made for women. It completely throws out the meaning of the word. What you're talking about is just the ability to write

  • @clearspira
    @clearspira Před 19 dny +209

    I actually cried when Jiraiya died. I didn't wail or anything, but I shed a tear. I came close when I saw Naruto alone on his swing the first time too due to my own personal experiences. Do not ever dare to tell me that Shonen is just big guys screaming and fighting each other because it is so much more.

    • @saltyk9869
      @saltyk9869 Před 19 dny +19

      The best Shonen have a degree of emotional storytelling. Naruto, Demon Slayer, and even Dragon Ball.

    • @gesi7072
      @gesi7072 Před 19 dny +12

      Naruto's growth as a person is possibky my all time favorite protag story in the mainstream shonen anime sphere

    • @dontmisunderstand6041
      @dontmisunderstand6041 Před 19 dny +5

      The things I think about when I hear "shonen anime" are the heavy emotions.

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Před 19 dny +11

      It was Naruto's depression over Jiraiya dying that made me cry. We'd seen him sad and lonely but watching him really go through full-blown depression was not something I ever expected to see. Him listlessly buying a popsicle, sitting down to supposedly eat it and then just breaking into tears when it finally hits that Jiraiya is really gone...damnit, I'm wiping away tears now remembering it 😂. Very, very well done scene.

    • @HurricaneDDragon
      @HurricaneDDragon Před 18 dny +5

      I don’t think he was necessarily saying that battle shonen is all hype and no heart, he was just highlighting other types of shonen series. By the way, Jiraiya vs. Pain is my favorite fight in Naruto. I think it’s quite underrated.

  • @evanb.529
    @evanb.529 Před 19 dny +14

    The "shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan" gag went on longer than I could have ever imagined and I love it

    • @garrettvinson3376
      @garrettvinson3376 Před 8 dny +1

      I have the old and the disconnection from popular stuff. What show is this dance from? Google is only returning variations of the meme and I don't know what is real any more T_T

    • @evanb.529
      @evanb.529 Před 8 dny +2

      @@garrettvinson3376 it's from an upcoming show literally called "shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan" which idk the English for right now. It comes out in just a few weeks for the Summer 2024 anime season but the OP song and associated dance used in one of the PVs became quite popular lol

    • @garrettvinson3376
      @garrettvinson3376 Před 8 dny +1

      @@evanb.529 gracias senor

  • @dwmlue9299
    @dwmlue9299 Před 19 dny +15

    Just saw the video title change on me in real time as I was watching the video. Didn't even know that was possible.

    • @mothersbasement
      @mothersbasement  Před 19 dny +13

      Yeah that’s kinda crazy I figured the title was set when you load the video session

  • @Ash_Wen-li
    @Ash_Wen-li Před 19 dny +118

    I peeped the footage of Hikaru no Go at the end. Crazy someone else talked about it cause the only other person I've heard mention it was a friend. It's gonna be the next anime I watch

    • @samlewis6487
      @samlewis6487 Před 19 dny +15

      It's very good actually

    • @dennpearldeloso6295
      @dennpearldeloso6295 Před 19 dny +12

      I'm happy it was mentioned because it's my favorite and first anime I got addicted to.

    • @Seergun
      @Seergun Před 19 dny +3

      I remember watching it on the cartoon network/adult swim? forget which, website back in the... mid to late 2000's? Never did finish it...

    • @ladysorka
      @ladysorka Před 19 dny +10

      It's genuinely one of my all time favorite series

    • @ReaveIdono
      @ReaveIdono Před 19 dny +6

      Wonderful series. Hikaru No Go and Chihayafuru are so rarely brought up.

  • @FanTalks1
    @FanTalks1 Před 19 dny +69

    Am I the only one who loves these videos where Geoff talks about different anime that are connected by a single aspect, which is the focus of the video?

    • @Champiness
      @Champiness Před 19 dny +15

      I agree - it really gets at how he attempts to be, like, a _student_ of the media he covers rather than just someone who watches a lot of it & then blabs to us about his takes

    • @digitaljanus
      @digitaljanus Před 19 dny +9

      The virgin fan of the medium: Here are my 20 favourite shounen anime!
      A chad scholar of the medium: Allow me to take you on a journey of the half-century history of this demographic category and highlight some of its more interesting offerings.

    • @izaakamesta1919
      @izaakamesta1919 Před 19 dny +2

      I actually love this videos, I wish he was explicit about the names of the animes he reference (he mostly does tho)

  • @bovanshi6564
    @bovanshi6564 Před 19 dny +220

    🎵🦌shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan 🦌🎵
    🎵🦌shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan 🦌🎵
    🎵🦌shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan 🦌🎵
    🎵🦌shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan 🦌🎵
    🎵🦌shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan 🦌🎵

    • @josueroberto7356
      @josueroberto7356 Před 19 dny +10

      Shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan

    • @javelinmaster2
      @javelinmaster2 Před 19 dny +35

      Oh deer

    • @theepicricemaker6611
      @theepicricemaker6611 Před 19 dny +9

      Ugh y e s this but on all day with no breaks and it gets louder as you become more mischievous

    • @DavyEddyBenny
      @DavyEddyBenny Před 19 dny +11

      Know in the Latin American community as 🎵El Venao, El Venao🎵 🦌🇲🇽

    • @itsaBoomer
      @itsaBoomer Před 19 dny +5

      shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan

  • @melissavice9967
    @melissavice9967 Před 19 dny +23

    the hikaru no go section hit me with a wave of nostalgia. my best friend and i were inexplicably obsessed with it in middle school to the point of playing go online

    • @M-yue882
      @M-yue882 Před 21 hodinou

      Check out the recently made C-Drama adaptation (reimagining of sort but pretty close to the original in most relevant ways)
      It is as epic, as cool
      Quite a number of people even prefer it over the original which is already very cool
      If that says something!

  • @MVNA_
    @MVNA_ Před 19 dny +124

    I just came for the Ruri Dragon segment.
    I saw the Ruri Dragon segment.
    I liked the Ruri Dragon segment.
    I going now.
    Thank you Mr. Jeff. Love your videos.

    • @BotSrsly
      @BotSrsly Před 19 dny +5

      u just like me fr

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb Před 19 dny +4

      @@BotSrsly fr

    • @skywardsword2804
      @skywardsword2804 Před 19 dny +3

      For the life of me I can’t understand the hype behind that series

    • @MVNA_
      @MVNA_ Před 19 dny +18

      @@skywardsword2804 cute dragon girl do cute dragon girl thing. what more do you want? it aint that complicated my brother

    • @cyan_oxy6734
      @cyan_oxy6734 Před 19 dny +6

      I thought it's on hiatus because the author got sick but apparently more is out. Gotta catch up!

  • @plushdragonteddy
    @plushdragonteddy Před 19 dny +28

    the bits in this video are so good. the gag anime gag. the deadpan commitment to naruto running despite refusing to get up from your office chair at the end. impeccable

  • @ImaPandaFox
    @ImaPandaFox Před 19 dny +20

    I feel like I’m gonna cry because finally you’ve mentioned Hikaru no Go in one of your videos. It is so good, but there’s not enough people that have watched it. It is my favorite anime by far. We need more people to watch it so we have more people to discuss it with.😭😭😭 I love all of the characters, even the side characters I think that the rivalry between Akira and Hikaru is wonderful and I never get tired of it. I have re-watched this show. I don’t know how many times. I am forever saddened that the intros are not on Spotify. And I’m even more sad because they never finished the anime.😭😭😭😭 we need a reboot, please. Also Ogata is the best husbando in all of anime😂😂

  • @HUNT3RdotME
    @HUNT3RdotME Před 19 dny +25

    To answer your introductory question, the first thing I thought of was actually that deleted James Somerton bit featured in Hbomberguy's plaigarism video where he mispells it to "Shonan" because of course.

  • @HexagonPankake
    @HexagonPankake Před 19 dny +36

    Roboco’s covers are iconic

  • @OtterSeaborne8901
    @OtterSeaborne8901 Před 19 dny +19

    Male romance protagonists? Female romance protagonists? How about a bit of both? Running in Bessatsu Shonen Magazine, Boyfriend Sometimes Girlfriend is a romance story less about finding a relationship and more about being in one: meeting the parents, making time for dates, disapproving friends, and how much harder that all gets when a hereditary genderbending curse gets involved. There's only a handful of chapters out yet, but if you're interested in the ways love changes people (in more than just the way mentioned in the title), and in potentially hazardous doses of sincerity and earnestness, maybe give it a look?
    I, ah, don't think there's an official way to read it in English yet, but you're learning Japanese now, right?

    • @RuiTsuki
      @RuiTsuki Před 18 dny +3

      Thank you for this comment, just checked it out and ended up really liking what's there so far! =D

  • @DurianKing
    @DurianKing Před 19 dny +21

    Akane-Banashi's Rakugo stories reminds me of the many tropes of manga stories I've read throughout my childhood. A lot of them aren't original creations, but rehashes of tried and true Rakugo tropes. It's Japanese traditional storytelling culture in a nutshell.

  • @mrbanks456
    @mrbanks456 Před 19 dny +88

    This is why I prefer the term "battle manga" instead of "shonen." It literally just means "boy."

    • @Aerafuz
      @Aerafuz Před 19 dny +11

      That's because Battle Manga is the term for the genre, many mangaka literally point it out. But because people online tend to associate the term as a genre, that's why we get this disparity, that to be quite frank people are too bullheaded to want to acknowledge.
      It's like how the plural of amiibo is just amiibo, but everyone just says "amiibos" because, why not?
      "Who cares if the genre is "Battle Manga" and Shonen is a demographic, I'm still going to call them all "Shonens" because I think it fits better."

    • @thomasffrench3639
      @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +4

      @@Aerafuz This is so true. The main issue is that people use it to discredit certain series and prop up series they like as not fitting whatever genre they don't like.

    • @12thLevelSithLord
      @12thLevelSithLord Před 19 dny +4

      ​@@thomasffrench3639Yeah, so many people go "thing X isn't shonen, it's good" Like FMA or AoT

    • @ausgod538
      @ausgod538 Před 18 dny

      It's what I use and its the actual term used in japan. Either battle manga or battle anime.

    • @joyc.e.7511
      @joyc.e.7511 Před 18 dny +1

      ​@@12thLevelSithLordYeah, I was stuck in that mindset for a bit, though mostly because I thought it had to due with how dark the themes of the series are, with darker stuff leaning more shounen, but my sister set me straight lol.

  • @NunyaBiznessss
    @NunyaBiznessss Před 19 dny +6

    I think I may need to rewatch the Gag Manga Supremacy section without looking because I'm so transfixed by Geoff and Yazy dancing that I'm only catching half the words

  • @dwainsimmons3447
    @dwainsimmons3447 Před 19 dny +49

    Can you do one on shoujo isn’t just magical girl shows?

    • @Ash_Wen-li
      @Ash_Wen-li Před 19 dny +25

      or romance

    • @gota7738
      @gota7738 Před 19 dny +2

      I mean a magical girl one would be cool too.

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 18 dny +7

      Check out Colleen's Manga Reccs! Great CZcams channel for shoujo and josei talk. Colleen has indeed made a few vids about how shoujo isn't just romance

    • @Demonsta
      @Demonsta Před 17 dny +11

      ​@@PredictableEnigmagreat rec, but would be great to see this channel do one too. Much like shojo, Colleen has a pretty straightforward demographic and gets a lot of negativity and pushback from the types of people who watch Shonen and handwave anything shojo as yucky girl stuff. Colleen can't educate an audience that's not watching, meanwhile Geoff jokes about not covering shojo stuff because of the comments it gets, would be great to see him branch out and actually talk about some shojosei anime because he clearly watches them unlike a lot of the insecure harem only anituber bros he shares his viewership with.

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 17 dny +1

      @@Demonsta Agreed! I'd love to hear anouther perspective on the topic. Shoujo anime do often make at least a mention in Geoff's Ones To Watch vids when they come out, so he likes those stories well enough and obviously isn't insecure about gender stuff. But frankly shoujo just gets fewer anime adaptations and you mostly find it through manga. So Geoff and many others are just exposed to it less and might not know what they are missing. The Shonen Jump app is such an amazing deal, but non-Jump stuff often has to be sought out and paid for per-volume rather than it being part of a low cost subscription. I don't think most people browse pirate sites to discover new manga series, they just search for series on them that they have already heard of elsewhere. The word has to get out there!

  • @col8488
    @col8488 Před 19 dny +33

    Came for ruri, stayed for shikanoko

  • @wolfscrescent7216
    @wolfscrescent7216 Před 18 dny +3

    Akane-Banashi mentioned, let's go! Seriously, its such a beautiful story that's both well written and incredibly well drawn, with the blend between the more traditional manga art blending into the more traditional paint-stroke looking portions of the rakugo stories themselves. Plus, one of the most fantastic pieces of art capturing the pressure to perform and the weight of expectation that I've ever seen in one of the most recent chapters. If you want a good non-combat shonen, I can wholeheartedly say its one of the best I've ever read. Please give it a chance, I don't think you'd regret it.

  • @JimmyRei1000
    @JimmyRei1000 Před 19 dny +11

    Let's be real. Geoff made this entirely so he could boogie to Nokonokotantan on camera.

  • @sagia4645
    @sagia4645 Před 19 dny +8

    Thanks for Hikaru no Go's mention. One of my favorite anime and manga of all time. Got me into the game as a kid, and while I have and still sucked at it, that story has a special place in my heart.

  • @imaginarylivingbody7154
    @imaginarylivingbody7154 Před 19 dny +13

    I am tired of people calling Shounen romance animanga ‘shoujo’ just because it contains romance.

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 19 dny +6

      Agreed! And they do the opposite and pretend non-romance shoujo are actually shonen. Even in this very comment section

  • @ReleaseZeKrakken
    @ReleaseZeKrakken Před 19 dny +11

    Ruri Dragon is criminally underrated, I remember reading the one-shot before it got serialized and loved it.

    • @retrohanska4441
      @retrohanska4441 Před 7 dny

      I have to disagree. I constantly see it being hyped, every time I see anything about it, it's almost nothing but positive, it maintained insane levels of hype even despite going to long hiatus before it really even started properly and last chapter pulled really solid views in Manga Plus. It's not criminally underrated, hardly even underrated. It's just popular, plain and simple

  • @gragon7082
    @gragon7082 Před 19 dny +5

    Loved being reminded of Hikaru no Go, it’s kinda wild to think about reading shonen jump and finding out how excited I was to see teenagers practice a game I didn’t remotely understand right alongside naruto, bleach, one piece, and shaman king

  • @Flasa
    @Flasa Před 19 dny +4

    Oh my! I used to LOVE Patlabor when I was younger but I haven’t heard anyone address it in years! Thanks for unlocking these memories!

  • @agogobell28
    @agogobell28 Před 19 dny +5

    Thanks for shouting out Bloom Into You. It’s amazing.

  • @Pixel_Fox
    @Pixel_Fox Před 19 dny +19

    Blue box mentioned!!!

  • @LoopyChew
    @LoopyChew Před 19 dny +7

    Geoff and Yazzy dancing on a loop for an hour please

  • @zebrother
    @zebrother Před 19 dny +24

    another SoL Manga worth mentioning that is technically Shounen is Aria. Happens to be my favorite Manga. More people should really check it out (or the Anime which is equally fantastic)

    • @Ash_Wen-li
      @Ash_Wen-li Před 19 dny +4

      I love the anime

    • @EmpireAnts42
      @EmpireAnts42 Před 19 dny

      You should check out my friend's cover of Undine under the name Ponpoko in the Distance!

    • @pbjmochi8400
      @pbjmochi8400 Před 19 dny +1

      !!!
      Aria mention! Congrats on officially being cultured™!🎉

    • @animusswtor4822
      @animusswtor4822 Před 19 dny +1

      this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this .
      Are these enough to get my point across?
      probably not, but yes.
      yes so much.
      also if you haven't (for any Aria fans out there), check out Tamayura's anime, too, it's written and directed by the same person that directed Aria and it's an absolutely amazing series with very similar vibes

  • @BurneraccountXD69
    @BurneraccountXD69 Před 19 dny +18

    It's kinda unfortunate that just using the term "shonen" in regards to anime in causal conversation, almost always refers to a "shonen battle" anime specifically, but that just my opinion.

  • @greenapple9477
    @greenapple9477 Před 19 dny +35

    **Starts dancing with Geoff and Yazy** 12:07

    • @neverendingribbon
      @neverendingribbon Před 18 dny +4

      What's the name of the anime that's from? I couldn't quite catch it

  • @lhumanoideerrantdesinterne8598

    At some point during the gag manga section, I unconsciously started doing the dance thing and kept going until the end. You win this one, Geoff.

  • @kettei5408
    @kettei5408 Před 19 dny +9

    List of most of the anime recommendations made in the video:(mostly in chrono order)
    Yakitate Japan
    Show-ha Shoten
    Dr. Slump
    Azumungadaiyo
    Nichijo
    Saiki-k
    Me and roboco
    Doraemon
    Cromardie High school
    Great Teache Onizuka
    Akane-banashi
    RuriDragon
    YuYu Hakusho
    Mob psycho 100
    Kaiju No.8
    Planetes
    Drifting Dragons
    Plastic memories
    Patlabor
    Quintessential Quintuplets
    100 girlfriends who really love you
    Toradora
    Horimiya(my personal recommendation go watch it you heathens)
    Nagatoro
    Your lie in April
    Bloom into you(peak yuri)
    Smile down the run way
    Baby steps
    Beat and Motion
    Blue box
    Kagura bachi(go read it you fiends)
    Haikyuu
    Rimnikakero?
    Frieren(go watch it you degenerates)
    Hikaru no go
    Tenmaku cinema
    Urusei yatsura

  • @yerpedy
    @yerpedy Před 19 dny +5

    Homie rely thought he snuck the gintama foreshadowing past us

  • @ben-san9677
    @ben-san9677 Před 19 dny +12

    24:26 This bit, especially the inflection on "I'm _definitely_ gonna do it again," really got me 😂

  • @dreamerme36
    @dreamerme36 Před 5 dny +1

    Yazzy coming in at 25:20 to cut you off was almost as thrilling as a battle anime scene lol

  • @KingCasual1986
    @KingCasual1986 Před 19 dny +7

    Since Geoff didn’t mention it I will: listen to the second opening of the Patlabor TV series. That might be one of the most beautiful mecha anime openings I’ve ever heard!

    • @tobiasl830
      @tobiasl830 Před 19 dny +2

      Patlabor! Super under-rated

  • @Rainears129
    @Rainears129 Před 19 dny +5

    Hikaru no Go was actually my first manga. I myself had just started reading comics that weren't in the newspaper funnies (somehow I never read superhero comics by Marvel or DC as a child) and just finished my first comic series when my friend introduced me to manga and Hikaru no Go. I had no idea what I was getting myself in to. Nearly 18 years later (...dear god, 18? I feel my back starting to ache), and I still enjoy the medium. Never checked out the anime though, because by the time I learned about it, I had gotten interested in other series.

  • @Patty-Q
    @Patty-Q Před 19 dny +6

    My god, the rakugo mention made me remember something that happened last year. I followed a couple friends to a con in Montreal and on the second day, I think, I went to a presentation on rakugo, but it turns out I was the only one in the small group that didn't speak French. I nodded along when the presenter was explaining things in French, but understood so much more when they switch to rakugo stories, which they told in Japanese. The funny thing is I took a semester in French back in high-school, but all the Japanese I've learned was from all the anime.

  • @samfisher6606
    @samfisher6606 Před 19 dny +38

    The Yazzy cameo was excellent

    • @lrgogo1517
      @lrgogo1517 Před 19 dny +2

      ...Which one

    • @samfisher6606
      @samfisher6606 Před 19 dny +3

      @@lrgogo1517 Both but the dancing one was more unexpected

  • @saltyk9869
    @saltyk9869 Před 19 dny +5

    Ruri Dragon is a series about cute girls being cute and also the main character is a dragon girl. When it went on hiatus, I was convinced that the series was gone. And yet it came back and seems to be successful so far. I guess that's just the power of cute girls and dragons.

  • @mangarotti
    @mangarotti Před 19 dny +7

    Just mentioning gintama is enough to light up my hope of someone making a video about it

  • @LeeviWinter
    @LeeviWinter Před 18 dny +2

    Oh god I SWEAR I was just about to write a comment about how you forgot to mention Gintama and then you mentioned Ginatama 😂Thank you for being so spot on as usual😭

  • @zgamer200
    @zgamer200 Před 19 dny +9

    I see praise for Hikaru no Go and I'm a happy camper.

  • @m14980
    @m14980 Před 19 dny +3

    We need a video like this for seinen and Shojo too. Fantastic video👏👏

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 18 dny +1

      Agreed! Colleen's Manga Reccs is a youtube channel that made a few videos like this for shoujo and josei. I reccomend the channel for sure. But I'd love hearing Geoff's and others perspective on it too.

  • @pipedream2556
    @pipedream2556 Před 19 dny +4

    0:47 oh hey, Soul Eater mention in 2024? Heck yeah!!

  • @Floyd-94
    @Floyd-94 Před 18 dny +2

    Was not ready for Yazzy in the background. Almost choked on my breakfast at work.

  • @pierrotnasse
    @pierrotnasse Před 18 dny +2

    "huh, weird, i never heard of great teacher onizuka, lets see if is that good"
    >almost cry in ep1

  • @ktvindicare
    @ktvindicare Před 19 dny +3

    Jeez I'm subbed and this video didnt even show up on my feed I had to visit the channel to see it. CZcams be hating.

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean Před 19 dny +13

    RuriDragon mentioned!

  • @PureDragoonEyes
    @PureDragoonEyes Před 19 dny +1

    When I was young and still learning about anime and manga, and learning how there are usually differences between the 2 like either they change scenes or take out bits here and there or just go in different directions, my local library had the yu yu Hakusho manga which is still one of my favorites. I will never forget how much I cried when I read about the tanuki and old man, and how much I teared up immediately now because you mentioned it. I love that story so much.

  • @ravenpotter3
    @ravenpotter3 Před 19 dny +3

    Ruri dragon is my current favorite Shounen jump manga. The summer it was canceled I was heartbroken. I read every week since the first chapter came out. So happy it’s back.

  • @milov3154
    @milov3154 Před 19 dny +3

    Those shots from Patlabor looked gorgeous

    • @snorpenbass4196
      @snorpenbass4196 Před 19 dny +1

      It's a fun show. The TV show is basically Hill Street Mecha Blues, with a mix of serious drama, action and comedy - like a more refined Dominion Tank Police, if you will. The movies tend towards the serious drama and setting politics and are a bit...not bad, as such, but...not really the same as the show. Also some amazing mecha designs.

  • @kickflipindi
    @kickflipindi Před 19 dny +6

    Got so many recs from this video i'm excited to check out! I know it's not your bag, but Shojo is just as deep, vast, and varied and with your popularity it would be so cool to see a shojo video one of these days. be not afraid

    • @PredictableEnigma
      @PredictableEnigma Před 18 dny +1

      I'd LOVE it if Geoff entered a shoujo appreciation arc. He definately doesn't avoid it and often shoujo anime will make it on the Ones To Watch videos when they come out. I think it's that he watches more anime than he does read manga, and most shoujo manga don't get as many anime adaptations as shonen and seinen. So I think he just isn't aware of what he's missing out on. I think a LOT of people are in that situation actually.

    • @kickflipindi
      @kickflipindi Před 11 dny

      @@PredictableEnigma For sure, I've gotten shojo recs from ones to watch before! And we've been in a shojo drought for sure but there's tons of old shojo from the 90s, aughts, and even 10s just like there was a ton of older shonen in this vid. We need a revival and we need GOOD production and marketing for these big shojo titles.

  • @Ninjacatmuffin
    @Ninjacatmuffin Před 18 dny +2

    Thanks for shouting out Smile Down the Runway again at the 6:00 mark. My sister and I watched the anime adaptation of it; the show has such shounen energy that it's unreal. We had a really good time with it.
    I have a soft spot for non-battle battle series, some gag manga*, and some mellow manga and romances. Thanks again for highlighting some non-fighting shounen series
    ps. For those who haven't watched or read Nichijou yet, you should get on that
    *Actually, a lot of gag manga. Bobobobo's English dub is peak and I will not accept otherwise

  • @zex1332
    @zex1332 Před 19 dny +2

    I first watched GTO on DVD almost 20 years ago, but even now I still strongly remember the incredible humor in that series and the way it could be so emotionally rich at the same time. It will always hold a place in my anime heart so it makes me happy to hear someone give it a shoutout like this. Cheers!

  • @donovanmarks1865
    @donovanmarks1865 Před 19 dny +6

    My favorite moment in a battle is probably "Trigger off!"

  • @Imjstbeinmajor23
    @Imjstbeinmajor23 Před 19 dny +5

    Looks like Geoff hasnt forgettin his shonen rival and since he aint makin a sequel to his video hes gonna do it

  • @MarslArts
    @MarslArts Před 19 dny +1

    I enjoyed this video and it brought me back to your channel. What I most enjoyed about your channel in the past were your detailed analytics to anime intros. I actually used them to explain my art direction students how much thought should go into doing their art. Hope you'll do some more in the future. Much love.

  • @CaptSicnastee
    @CaptSicnastee Před 19 dny +2

    I love that ruri is center stage of the thumbnail. That series is so cute.

  • @jamesmcclure6191
    @jamesmcclure6191 Před 19 dny +5

    Thank you, Jeff, for mentioning Hikaru no Go. It pulled Me in from the very start and was one of the best anime experiences of My life.

    • @M-yue882
      @M-yue882 Před 21 hodinou

      There is a C-Drama adaptation made in recent years
      And it does live up to the original
      If not even improves it in ways
      It's also not exactly the same setting
      It's a re-imagination in a more future setting and the location is China instead

  • @Alacaelum
    @Alacaelum Před 19 dny +4

    When I read Hikaru no Go years ago, I was just a teenager, I was new to the manga scene and didn't know how things worked with the releases and popularity pools, and when I read the final chapters... even today I remember that the thing that crossed my mind, even though had no idea how the game itself worked was... I want more, I need more.
    I can't say with certainty but I think it was the first time I had to contend with the "cancelation sickness", fortunately, I had other manga that kept my young mind happy to take me off it, but I did constantly check weekly to see if the manga had any update, until I accepted that there wouldn't be more.
    This memory, and many others of that time, have a bittersweet taste, i really didn't understand many things then that now I have... but at the same time, even when I am having fun with a new series... I remember what I felt during those times, that feeling of discovery, of pure unbridled happiness and anxiety to see something new.
    And Geoff... your taste is immaculate, GTO is a masterpiece that should be read by anyone who wants a taste of a life-altering story.

  • @charlieverdin101
    @charlieverdin101 Před 11 dny

    Glad you mentioned Blue Box and Beat & Motion. I'm always excited when new chapters of those drop on Jump. Blue Box especially has some powerful moments that have stuck with me. Moments when you know someone is going to get hurt, and it sucks because they don't deserve it, but there's also no way around it. Heartbreaking, but so well done.

  • @Solanaar
    @Solanaar Před 8 dny

    I must commend you on excellently illustrating hikaru no gos writing. I don't know the manga and just by your description I immediately got why the writing is incredible.
    To put that into words that deliver such a complex aspect so brilliantly is indeed a sign of great writing, as well. Nicely done!

  • @failasaurusrawr1423
    @failasaurusrawr1423 Před 19 dny +3

    Woah! Never been so early, KEEP IT UP MOTHER'S BASEMENT YOURR VIDEOS ARE AWESOME!

  • @Ichibushido
    @Ichibushido Před 19 dny +3

    Love the shout-out for Saiki K. I need the original team to pick up season 2.

    • @himanbam
      @himanbam Před 19 dny

      Saiki K is the best anime I've ever watched on netflix

    • @hellowendy1029
      @hellowendy1029 Před 19 dny

      It's one of my favorites ever!

  • @SamTheGumMan117
    @SamTheGumMan117 Před 19 dny +2

    Nice moves you guys and one of my favourite series rn is Akane Banashi never thought I'd love the artform of Rakugo so much also Gintama is my goat shonen series it does a lot of things so well kinda probably why I love Undead Unluck so much

  • @MegaCocoa125
    @MegaCocoa125 Před 18 dny +1

    Great video Jeff! I am loving Blue Box. It's so good and the characters all behave in ways that make sense. Anytime there could be a misunderstanding they actually tackle it reasonably!

  • @ryushindai
    @ryushindai Před 19 dny +15

    the whole gag supremacy segment was impossible to understand with that song lol

  • @ilikethis3203
    @ilikethis3203 Před 19 dny +4

    Even though it was cancelled, Tenmaku cinema is such a good read. I highly recommend it.

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot420 Před 14 dny +1

    Cromartie is one of the most underappreciated shows out there. Man, I was not prepared for how insane it could get back when I first saw it.

  • @sinceritynature202
    @sinceritynature202 Před 7 dny +1

    Oh my GOD, Hikaru no Go!!!! One of my favorite manga EVER, and I never hear anyone talk about it. So happy to hear you give it a spotlight!!

    • @M-yue882
      @M-yue882 Před 21 hodinou

      I highly recommend a C-Drama adaptation (re--imagining of sort) on it
      It was made in recent years (2020 or 2021 release)
      And it actually lives up to the original
      If not even improve it in ways!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 19 dny +10

    Death note is awesome! Gonna watch this video.... AND LOVE IT! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Rycluse
    @Rycluse Před 19 dny +3

    Glad to know Geoff has also pegged Nokotan as a future masterpiece

  • @technogamer1686
    @technogamer1686 Před 19 dny +2

    Hikaru no Go is so underrated and I love you talking about it it’s so fucking good

  • @ainrstt7013
    @ainrstt7013 Před 19 dny +1

    This channel is definitely top 10 for me. The broad range of topics and the delivery are really a new standard❤❤

  • @pedro15305
    @pedro15305 Před 19 dny +4

    I saw the title of the video and thought "Oh no, there goes another anitubter talking about the 'genre' shounen". I'm glad to say I was wrong! He still does other silly things like talking about manga and all of a sudden mentioning a scene from the anime like they're the same thing, but that's a battle for another day, I'm just glad he got the demographics part right.

    • @Aerafuz
      @Aerafuz Před 19 dny

      And he calls the genre "Battle Shonen" - even many mangaka call it "Battle Manga"

    • @pedro15305
      @pedro15305 Před 19 dny

      @@Aerafuz yeah, I think it would be better to have a more clear distinction when you're talking about two different media, but to be honest mother's basement is already better than 90% of anitubers, even with those shortcomings.

    • @j.b.5422
      @j.b.5422 Před 15 dny

      the title gleacry specified it was not going in that obvuisu dumrb route

    • @pedro15305
      @pedro15305 Před 15 dny +1

      @@j.b.5422 no it didn't, he could've easily said it was a genre but not only about fighting

  • @IchigoEucliffe
    @IchigoEucliffe Před 19 dny +9

    Akane-Banashi, Blue Box, Ruri Dragon, AND Beat & Motion mentioned? The like button isn't enough for this one.

  • @squickicka
    @squickicka Před 16 dny +1

    31:05 calling Akira "some kid at the local go parlor" is so dastardly 😭

  • @Triforce_of_Doom
    @Triforce_of_Doom Před 8 hodinami

    So glad Hikaru was mentioned. As someone who grew up in a family that loves to play board & card games whenever we can meet up, it was a really cool way to learn about a really complex game that is older than chess. Now to just get around to actually finishing the series myself (first found it via manga YEARS ago, then rediscovered it on Hulu but haven't booted up Hulu in forever)

  • @tonywalker3541
    @tonywalker3541 Před 19 dny +3

    While I admittedly haven't delved into a whole lot of comedy anime, there is one that I would gladly recommend to anyone, anime fan or otherwise: Sgt Frog.
    In summary, Sgt Frog is about a squad of goofy frog-like alien invaders and the human family they live with. The series as a whole is very similar to Loony Tunes in terms of plot structure and presentation, with each episode more or less being its own self contained story. Though they make plenty of references to past episodes along the way.
    Beyond that, the show is absolutely brimming with slapstick comedy, pop culture references (both eastern and western), and hilarious twists on classic anime tropes. It's a series that knows exactly how ridiculous and frankly absurd it is, and it absolutely revels in it. 10/10 would recommend.

  • @thomasffrench3639
    @thomasffrench3639 Před 19 dny +4

    29:01 I thought I was the only one who knew of that manga's existence.

  • @xeraphinalaurentia
    @xeraphinalaurentia Před 18 dny

    Thanks for highlighting the other great aspects of shounen, Geoff!

  • @gamemaster4947
    @gamemaster4947 Před 18 dny +1

    Dr. Stone is one of my favorite manga. It’s not because I like its story the best out of every other manga (that goes to Land of the Lustrous), but it’s because I haven’t come across another manga that has got me so hyped about little things. I’ve never been so hyped to learn about minerals in my life.