Kitano almost sounding like a student gussing over his professor and asking questions for his homework lol. This is also like the first time I've ever seen him speak this much. Usually he's always very emotionless
This showed up in my related videos for some reason. I clicked on it, not knowing what it was and found Takeshi Kitano talking with Akira Kurosawa. This is such a treat, and thank you for subtitling it.
God bless the guy who put the subtitles back. These videos are such precious documents. Edit: there are no subtitles at the end. Also please add them to the other videos as well :(
Sorry to be off topic but does anyone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb lost my login password. I appreciate any help you can offer me!
@Stanley Riley thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff now. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
This is some enigmatic genius right here lol. He says I haven't watched too many movies, how was he able to make such great movies then ? Who taught him ? Tarantino is a walking encyclopedia of cinema, that's why he is such a good director. Takeshi on the other hand is like - Yeah, I have not watched too many movies, but let's make some movie anyway- and creates a masterpiece lol !
Kurosawa is saying he likes Takeshis movies and how they dont add unnecessary explanations of what's going on. Neither direct explanations through words nor indirect explanations through additional scenes showing actors reacting emotionally to circumstances. Basically he criticizes the film industry for making it a standard to include certain types of scenes to clarify the plot which viewers can already infer. Then Takeshi goes on to explain how hes only seen a small handful of films in his life and is not familiar with the film industry. In a sense humbly suggesting hes simply unaware of how films are meant to be, but agrees that perhaps thats how things should be. Kurosawa agrees. Then Takeshi explains how he came from a similar but different TV industry where the production operates completely different.
On voit dans le regard et l'attitude de Kurosawa toute la considération qu'il a à l'égard de Kitano. Deux grands maîtres qui se reconnaissent mutuellement, et avec humilité
Kurosawa-san in his Laker's t-shirt Hysterical! lol. Kurosawa was so stylish. If anyone has time please feel free to send me the gist of this conversation in english. Domo Arigato! It's so nice to see Kitano interviewing Kurosawa - who knew??:-)
My English is bad, but I translated it a little. Please forgive me for making a mistake... Kurosawa: I like your movie. It’s very interesting. The reason is that there is no extra explanation. Kitano : Hai Kurosawa: I like that. Apparently, Japanese movies and acting seem too much explanation. Your movie has less explanation. Kitano: To be honest, I haven't seen many movies. Before I moved to Asakusa, I only saw "Rikidozan Monogatari (The story of a wrestler)" ,"Second Private Soldier’s story", and "Il Ferroviere" . That’s only. After that, I watched some movies, Then I was joking around and saying "Let's make a movie." And I started to succeed as a comedian, so Shochiku said, "You can make a movie." So I started making a movie. But at first I didn't know how to make it. There were five cameras in comedy work. However, for movie shooting, there is only one main camera. Then... I was thinking I should combine the five cameras into one, but that wasn't enough. It was totally bad to shoot a movie as if it were on TV. As a result, the first film I shot often used a front cut and did not move from it. I was wondering, "What should I do?", and when I look to the side, there is a grip. Their expressions look uneasy. So I thought, "I'll try using a crane," and they gladly prepare a crane. But in the end, I couldn't get a good shot and it became a very simple movie. If I think about it now, I think it would have been great if I could take the shot I liked. Even if you do something you don't know, it won't end forever. Kurosawa: That's fine. no problem. There is no theory that you have to do this because it is a movie. Kitano: At first, I felt like I was being challenged by an assistant director. So I thought I shouldn't lose to it. Even though I wanted to do various things, I rarely used it. Kurosawa: When I first filmed Shochiku, I saw the assistant directors talking about each other. I asked him, "What's wrong?" He said, "I think your shooting method is wrong." Apparently Shochiku had a method of shooting Shochiku movies, and my method seems to be too unique. Suppose there is a cut on which the motorcycle is running. In my case, in the next cut, that person is painting in the house. But the assistant directors say, "You should shoot the goggles hanging on the wall." So I said, "I don't care. I shoot naturally." He said, "But I think the movie needs the passage of the movie time." But I'm not like that. I shoot with the same feeling as the reality I feel. At the beginning of the shoot, there was disagreement about such stories. Surely what you want to say is the same as this story, right? There are people who stick to the common sense of movies, but that's no good. You are free to do it. Kitano: Well... I'm an amateur in movies, but I don't understand why I need to show a lot of "time lapse." I saw your latest work "mâdadayo". And I was studying "time lapse" in the movie. And when the time-lapse scene begins, I stop the movie and think. "How would I express" The expression of the passage of time in a movie has individuality. However, many directors explain it. If you make it according to theory, the individuality of the person will not come out. It makes me think about that. Kurosawa: I don't mind changing scenes suddenly. Depending on the scene, rhythm is necessary, so I can't say it unequivocally, but I don't think it needs explanation. For example, Mr. Kitano comes to my house. And I meet you at the front door. The next scene is our scene we are already talking about. That's fine. Film has a rhythm because it resembles music as a form of art. If the rhythm is good, the viewer will be able to enter the world without discomfort.
黒澤明がレイカーズのtシャツ着てるのとあのギラギラしてる時代のビートたけしが嬉しそうに喋ってるのすごくいい
黒澤監督が終始嬉しそうなんだよなあ
楽しそうっていうか嬉しそう
なんだこの貴重な動画は！
黒澤明監督の話されている姿初めて見た。
黒澤監督「ビートさん」って
いいね…なんか、すごくいい
偉人なのに謙虚で穏やかな雰囲気が話しやすそうでスゴイと思う。北野さんも人懐っこい雰囲気で良いね。
武は不思議だよね。大物に愛されてやりたい事が次から次に実現する。
人柄やね
女性にも武さんはほっとけないタイプと昔言われてたくらいだし
黒澤さんが「話の分る奴だ」って嬉しそうな顔している。
情報量の多いカメラワークやカット割より、FIXで強烈な一枚絵の映画が美しくて好き。武映画は本当に素晴らしい。
黒澤さんは対等に喋っていて、たけしさんを尊重しているんだけど、結局はたけしさんに教えを授けている。良い関係だと思います。
永遠に素晴らしい対談。たけしさん、黒澤監督、強烈なエネルギーが溢れた空間が存在してます。
キタノ映画は
0:15 「余計な説明が無い
ズカズカしてるのが良い」
あぁ、確かにそうだわ……と
いきなり開口一番の感想に納得。
あの黒澤明の声の貫禄……
初めて話すところをじっくり観ました
upありがとうございます
成功する方って驚くほど柔軟な思考と自分の哲学持ってると思うんです。
このお二方は、そんな成功者のすべての資質を兼ね備えている偉大な方だと感じました。
で、これがヒラ信者の型。
私は頭が硬いというか自分で考える事をしない愚か者ですと言う代わりにアイコンをわっしょいする。
黒沢先生に誉められる✨こんな名誉はない☘️たけしさんはどんな相手にもひるまない肝っ玉の据わった人間なんだなあ✨
黒澤監督が嬉しそうに話をしているのが凄い。たけしの才能を認めているのが伝わりますね。
ホントですね。たけしの不安に対する黒澤監督のコメントもすごく肯定的です。
@@zxbankara3427 あれは年代順だろ？だから最近で一番良い映画だという意味になるよ
Kitano almost sounding like a student gussing over his professor and asking questions for his homework lol. This is also like the first time I've ever seen him speak this much. Usually he's always very emotionless
北野武さんが真剣に悩みながら映画を作っていた事がわかりました。
黒澤明さんも本心で北野さんの映画が好きであった、とここで確認できました。
アップロードありがとうございました。
This showed up in my related videos for some reason. I clicked on it, not knowing what it was and found Takeshi Kitano talking with Akira Kurosawa. This is such a treat, and thank you for subtitling it.
I know this is too late to ask.
But where is subtitle?
二人とも無意識的かもしれないけど視聴者に分かり易く話してくれる。だからこんなに大衆にも親しまれたんだろうな。
たけしの、黒澤氏に対する溢れ出んばかりの畏敬。こんなふうに自然に恐縮できる「師匠」に出会える人って、もの凄く幸運なんでしょうね。その幸運を掴むのも、たけしの才能のゆえなのでしょうか。
たけしという才能と触れ合って楽しそうな黒澤先生ですね。
いい意味で違う畑から来た新たな映画監督にワクワクしてたのでしょう。
「殻なんか破りなさい、自由にやりなさい」と。
そういえば新作「首」でも衣装は黒澤和子さんですね。
秋が待ち切れません！
ほんの少しでも話してる内容がわかるという幸せ
天才的な2人の対談、面白い
何より2人とも楽しそう！
先入観を持たないからこそ斬新な発想になるお手本のようなお二人
黒沢監督の言葉は裏打ちされた経験と業績が偉大過ぎて、なかなかストレートには入って来ない・・・たけしみたいに同じ土俵に立たないと咀嚼し切れないんだろうな
93年の対談てことは
たけしが最初の映画撮ってからわずか4年
なのに黒澤明と映画談義して話が弾んでる
13年前にアップされた動画か。もうこれ自体が歴史になってる
奇跡のような二人の巨匠の対談。黒沢監督はもとより武さんは映画に愛された人、この人の多才ぶりには本当に驚かされた。今の若い人にはわからないかも。
黒澤の洋服がめちゃくちゃかっこいいw
センスって頭が柔らかくないとダメなんだな
たけしさんが緊張してる姿を久しぶりに見た気がします＾＾良いものを見せて頂きました。ありがとうございます。たけしバンザイ！！
たくさん「こりゃダメだ」と感じて捨てた北野監督の眼力
巨匠黒澤を前にしても、へこへこ媚びることもない、若き日の武に大物の片鱗を感じた。
話が貴重過ぎる。
刺激的で嬉しくなります。
「説明が多すぎる」
ほんとそう。 巨匠がこう言ってるのにいまだに気づいてない。日本の監督たち。
ntrance1972 黒澤明の映画はかなり説明多いけどね
@@user-sg6pv5tj5p ちゃんと見てないですね
中島浩光 いや中期までは説明が多いし、黒澤監督も認めてるよ
「枕がデカすぎる」
ほんとそう。遠野がこう言っているのにいまだに気づいてない。日本の漫画家久保帯人。
@@user-sg6pv5tj5p
2年前だけどコメントさせてもらうわ。
黒澤明の映画の説明は工夫されてるし、説明にしても説明と感じさせない、物語を盛り上げる説明だからね。
一方最近の邦画は怒る理由、泣く理由、笑う理由、必要のない所に何かと説明して、その説明も工夫されていないから見てて退屈なんだよね。
『まあだだよ』は凄いよな…何もかも削ぎ落とした映画。その境地に至った黒澤の言葉が重すぎる。そしてその黒澤と渡り合うのは北野武ですよ。
その「まあだだよ」にはたけしさんと親交の深い所ジョージさんが出ている。
このツーショットだけで価値があるな
ここに大島渚監督も参加してたらすごいスリーショットになってたのになあ。
後に黒澤監督が亡くなられる前に監督のお嬢さんがタイプして、武さんに「日本の映画界を頼む」と託されたお話に感動しました🙏
ん？
@@user-risemara-shitaiさん、すみません🙏どうも寝落ちしたらしいです💦
「日本の映画界を頼む」と言われてビートくんは「俺は唯尤もらしく映画作ってるだけなのに，日本の映画界を頼む，だって黒澤なんか馬鹿じゃないか」と思ってるわけだけど，黒澤がこいつに日本の映画界を頼むと言ったのは自分を安っぽく見せるためのインテリ特有の自己批判なんです。まぁ分かる人にしか分かりませんがね。
@@zxbankara3427
お前はもっと本を読むか頭を使って人と話をしたほうがいいよ
揶揄したいんだろうけど内容も支離滅裂で句読点の打ち方も間違ってるし文脈が小学生以下だ
ん？
たけし若いな。 まさに巨頭会談。 淀川さんといい、大物はたけしの良さが解るんですね
黒澤明監督遺作「まあだだよ 」、
北野武監督「sonatine」は1993年に公開。
渡辺哲さんは両作に出演。
絶対Blu-rayにしてもらいたい！
黒澤明、レイカーズのTシャツが似合ってるのがすごい。
このアングルいいなーと思ったら黒澤さんのアングルなんだよなぁー
The greatest director of all time and one of the best directors today, simply brilliant footage.
最近黒沢明の羅生門見たけど、凄すぎて度肝抜かれたわ！色んな映画の元ネタはこの人なんや…こんな凄い人が日本にいた事に驚いたわ！てか、この人の見たら他の人の映画みられなくなるな…
これを翻訳なしに“素”で見れる日本人はラッキーだな
だってこんな偉大な映画人が二人ともなんと日本人なんだからｗ
残念なことに8年後はこの2人然り、他人の功績を盾に他国を蔑む日本人の恥が増えたよ。
@@user-zx1cf8el2o ん？
@@user-zx1cf8el2o
てめぇのツラより恥はねぇや
貢洋唐澤 それな。キモイネトウヨが増えすぎたよな。
@@user-tv3xv8ez5l 最近の座敷牢はネット回線が通ってるのか？親御さんよ、こんなクズにネット回線与えんなよ。叩ききれィッ！！！！（命令口調）
I don't speak japanese, but these two are definitely talking about whatever it is great filmmakers talk about.
黒澤監督は本当に尊敬する大好きな映画監督ですが、何より嬉しいのは、これまた私が大好きなレイカーズのシャツを着てくれている所！ファンなんですかね？
Tommy D サイズじゃないですか？、孫が買ってきたとか。
ちょ・・この映像すごすぎだろ
貴重な映像ですね。これを観て改めてお二人は映画人である前にいちアーティストであるのかなと自分は感じました。
音楽にしろ、絵画にしろ、表現者は最終的に自分の表現を削ぎ落とし、研ぎ澄ます事に帰結するのではと。映像で黒沢監督が、映画はリズムが大事、音楽に似ているとも語っていますが、これは映画を理論ではなく、一つの表現として据えているからこそ出た台詞な気がしますね。北野監督も同様、氏の作品から非常に繊細な感性を持っている稀代な人物であるという事を、黒沢監督はこの時もう既に見抜いていたのかもしれないですね。。互いに感性を認め合えるということは本当に素晴らしい事です。
レイカーズのTシャツ着てるの見てもわかる通り感覚が若いのでしょうね
やっぱモノ創る人って基本若い感覚が無いとダメ
固定観念にとらわれない撮り方が良いと言ってるのが印象に残った
God bless the guy who put the subtitles back. These videos are such precious documents.
Edit: there are no subtitles at the end. Also please add them to the other videos as well :(
Sorry to be off topic but does anyone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb lost my login password. I appreciate any help you can offer me!
@Stanley Riley thanks for your reply. I found the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff now.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Stanley Riley it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy!
Thanks so much, you saved my account :D
@Roger Ronan no problem :D
@Learn Japanese With Rinchan Thank you so much, you're doing God's work! Love from Italy :)
プロ同士のエキスパートトーク。実におもしろい。
天才ふたりが並んでいる 圧巻
とてもいいものを見たという気持ち。
構成する方法、何かを作るときの基礎、態度のようなものが学んだ感。
LEGEND in the true sense of the word !
I love you Akira Kurosawa, I love you I love you.
Ahmed from Oman
This is some enigmatic genius right here lol. He says I haven't watched too many movies, how was he able to make such great movies then ? Who taught him ? Tarantino is a walking encyclopedia of cinema, that's why he is such a good director. Takeshi on the other hand is like - Yeah, I have not watched too many movies, but let's make some movie anyway- and creates a masterpiece lol !
「動いた絵に・・・自分でわかってない絵を撮るとにっちもさっちもいかないですね、あれは」って、もうホントそう。自分でコントロールできてない芸術は、例えその時はうまくいったように見えても結局破綻する。無骨だろうが単純だろうが、自分らしくやったものが自分の作品の血肉になっていく、というのは感じたね。
I'm loving the Lakers jersey, Mr. Kurosawa!
Subtitles please. You're teasing me with a conversation between two legends and no subtitles, I want to cry :'(
Kurosawa is saying he likes Takeshis movies and how they dont add unnecessary explanations of what's going on. Neither direct explanations through words nor indirect explanations through additional scenes showing actors reacting emotionally to circumstances. Basically he criticizes the film industry for making it a standard to include certain types of scenes to clarify the plot which viewers can already infer. Then Takeshi goes on to explain how hes only seen a small handful of films in his life and is not familiar with the film industry. In a sense humbly suggesting hes simply unaware of how films are meant to be, but agrees that perhaps thats how things should be. Kurosawa agrees. Then Takeshi explains how he came from a similar but different TV industry where the production operates completely different.
これたけし46歳だって
今だと千原ジュニアとか田村淳とか有吉とかと同い年
貫禄ありすぎw
貴重な映像
首の公開が楽しみすぎて観にきました。
Geniuses! Love for Japanese cinema !
Kuro sama and Kitano sama 🥰 much love from Myanmar.
黒澤監督のLakersのTシャツが気になって仕方ないwwバスケ好きだったんかなぁ
八村塁の動画見てたら推すすめに上がって来て見たら黒沢監督レイカーズねTシャツ着てますやん
Dammit, Kurosawa is wearing a Lakers shirt! Ahhhhhh, I love him anyways
R.I.P Kobe
これ何年の対談なんだろう。
黒澤明監督、レイカーズのロンＴ着てる。
すげえオシャレやなあ。
LEGENDS!!!
黒澤明かっけー
スゲー対談だ
黒澤先生がレイカーズファンなのにもびっくり
たぶん黒澤監督はレイカーズなんて知らないと思いますよ。
ご息女の和子さんの見立てだと思う。
てか、レイカーズって何？😅
@@user-bf5po7rd7d いや服にレイカーズって書いとるやん
ちなみにレイカーズはNBAのクソ有名なチームだから黒沢監督が知っていてもなんらおかしくはない
北野たけしが緊張してるｗｗ
こんなかしこまってるたけちゃん見たこと無いｗｗ。フライデーの記者会見見てから来たか差にビックリ！！
2 Legends!
２人の対談を見ていて、発言するときの自分はこう思うんですよ、というスタンスは凄くいいなと思った。
相手の意見を否定する言葉を使わずに反対意見を伝えることができるし、相手を不快にさせることもない。
相手の意見を面と向かって否定することで、相手に不快感を与えることを目的とするタイプの人間が多いんだよな。
The two Japanese filmmaker's I discovered first.
時系列よりリズム感、ってことですよね。
On voit dans le regard et l'attitude de Kurosawa toute la considération qu'il a à l'égard de Kitano. Deux grands maîtres qui se reconnaissent mutuellement, et avec humilité
うわー、これ、映画の本質だわ。あー、見れて良かった。
黒澤監督のカメラ目線の使い方が、テレビ番組「落語のピン」のときの立川談志と重なって見える
確かにたけしさんの映画には説明がないね＾＾俺は好き
たけちゃんも若い
監督も若いもうすこし
こわい人かとおもっいましたが
風格もあって優しいですね
たけちゃんもながいきしてわたしらにいろんなところみせてください
Kurosawa-san in his Laker's t-shirt Hysterical! lol. Kurosawa was so stylish. If anyone has time please feel free to send me the gist of this conversation in english. Domo Arigato!
It's so nice to see Kitano interviewing Kurosawa - who knew??:-)
i just watched it all not knowing anything. 10/10 would recommend
holy shit this was 13 years ago, guess im a bit late
@@motwhom3230 Even though I'm 14 years late, I want to agree about that shirt. Very stylish indeed!
I turned on german subtitles and Kurosawa said "I am a japanese movie".
えー何これ凄い。
レイカーズ着てるのがなんか面白い笑
「日本の映画は説明が多すぎる」
まったくそのとおり。日本の映画人たちは黒澤明が言ってることまったく聞いてませんね。
確かに、説明セリフが多いんだよね。
@@user-vd9vm4zz2r 説明不足って文句言うやつがいるからね〜
例えば桃太郎でなんで桃が流れてくるか意味不明とか
13年前のコメントに返信する謎の行動
@@user-jf1qh3ne6k 別にかまへんやろ
@@NBST0713 バカか！返ってこない相手にコメントするやつの思考は一方通行のお前みたいなシコシコ野郎じゃはげ
My English is bad, but I translated it a little. Please forgive me for making a mistake...
Kurosawa: I like your movie. It’s very interesting.
The reason is that there is no extra explanation.
Kitano : Hai
Kurosawa: I like that. Apparently, Japanese movies and acting seem too much explanation. Your movie has less explanation.
Kitano: To be honest, I haven't seen many movies. Before I moved to Asakusa, I only saw "Rikidozan Monogatari (The story of a wrestler)" ,"Second Private Soldier’s story", and "Il Ferroviere" . That’s only.
After that, I watched some movies, Then I was joking around and saying "Let's make a movie."
And I started to succeed as a comedian, so Shochiku said, "You can make a movie." So I started making a movie.
But at first I didn't know how to make it. There were five cameras in comedy work. However, for movie shooting, there is only one main camera.
Then... I was thinking I should combine the five cameras into one, but that wasn't enough. It was totally bad to shoot a movie as if it were on TV. As a result, the first film I shot often used a front cut and did not move from it.
I was wondering, "What should I do?", and when I look to the side, there is a grip. Their expressions look uneasy.
So I thought, "I'll try using a crane," and they gladly prepare a crane. But in the end, I couldn't get a good shot and it became a very simple movie. If I think about it now, I think it would have been great if I could take the shot I liked. Even if you do something you don't know, it won't end forever.
Kurosawa: That's fine. no problem. There is no theory that you have to do this because it is a movie.
Kitano: At first, I felt like I was being challenged by an assistant director. So I thought I shouldn't lose to it. Even though I wanted to do various things, I rarely used it.
Kurosawa: When I first filmed Shochiku, I saw the assistant directors talking about each other. I asked him, "What's wrong?"
He said, "I think your shooting method is wrong."
Apparently Shochiku had a method of shooting Shochiku movies, and my method seems to be too unique.
Suppose there is a cut on which the motorcycle is running. In my case, in the next cut, that person is painting in the house.
But the assistant directors say, "You should shoot the goggles hanging on the wall."
So I said, "I don't care. I shoot naturally." He said, "But I think the movie needs the passage of the movie time."
But I'm not like that. I shoot with the same feeling as the reality I feel. At the beginning of the shoot, there was disagreement about such stories. Surely what you want to say is the same as this story, right? There are people who stick to the common sense of movies, but that's no good. You are free to do it.
Kitano: Well... I'm an amateur in movies, but I don't understand why I need to show a lot of "time lapse." I saw your latest work "mâdadayo". And I was studying "time lapse" in the movie. And when the time-lapse scene begins, I stop the movie and think. "How would I express"
The expression of the passage of time in a movie has individuality. However, many directors explain it. If you make it according to theory, the individuality of the person will not come out. It makes me think about that.
Kurosawa: I don't mind changing scenes suddenly. Depending on the scene, rhythm is necessary, so I can't say it unequivocally, but I don't think it needs explanation. For example, Mr. Kitano comes to my house. And I meet you at the front door. The next scene is our scene we are already talking about. That's fine. Film has a rhythm because it resembles music as a form of art. If the rhythm is good, the viewer will be able to enter the world without discomfort.
Than you so much! You would make a lot of people happy if you translated part 2 and part 3 too, please! :D
@@sdaki1962 I wish I could do that, but my translation doesn't convey the fine nuances well, which can be misleading. It's scary😱
@@YK_Paul-J @La S that's fair. I think it would still be better than nothing.
黒澤の服が最先端をいってた笑
マジだ。
たしかに笑
俺も思った( =＾ω＾)
感性がすでに令和で草
センスと言えば、服もさることながら俺の知ってる限りでは日本のサングラス有名人のハシリなんだよね。明治の生まれでサングラスを自分のトレードマークにしたあのセンスね。
黒澤明監督おしゃれやなぁ笑
NBAのレイカーズTシャツ着てるんだ
ジャッキー・チェンもラッシュアワーのアクション作るときに余計なシーン入れたくなくてハリウッドのスタッフと揉めてたな。
「で、そのシーンで吹っ飛んだ銃はどこに着地するわけ？」ってアメリカのスタッフに聞かれて「観客はそんなこと気にしないでしょ！」ってブチギレてた。
Well, the english translation via CZcams's inbeded translator doesn't make much sense
外国の方にも見てほしいけど，字幕を付けるのは大変そう．
黒澤監督の服が‼️ NBAのLakers❤️
ソナチネ大好き！
死を遂げるなら石垣島
黒澤さんが生きていたらアウトレイジも見てほしかったな。
Where the English subtitles?? 🧐😣😔