Jodi Arias / Travis Alexander Relationship Analysis | Weaponizing Sex
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- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of the background of Jodi Arias and her relationship with Travis Alexander?
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Found it interesting that Dr. Grande was so blunt about Travis. Usually people treat the deceased w/ kid gloves, like “oh they lit up a room” and “they were the nicest person ever.” Meanwhile Dr. Grande was just like “yeah he was pretty unattractive and shallow”
I agree. Always found Travis to be highly narcissistic and weird. He didn't deserve to die but he abused her too verbally.
I appreciate Dr. Grande's speculation of Travis. Don't get me wrong?! However, he was a grown man, and he kept going for the sex.. He was a little full of himself about his "religious beliefs." He was being a hypocrite. His friends even knew, and lightly warned him. He was definitely using her, and probably understood that he was just taking what he wanted. I suppose no one saw a violent, overkill would be an outcome. Let this be a lesson, people. It could happen to either sex. I knew a person that wanted to be with me, and was married. He insisted vaginal sex was a no-no it was apparently okay to do just about everything else. 🤮 Luckily, I'm not insane or borderline personality or a murderer. I knew when he said that to me, what HE was all about. Excellent video, and speculation by Dr. Grande. Travis wasn't an angel. No, he did NOT deserve to be slaughtered.
@@zenawarrior7442 I agree. Thank you.
@@hotdyme86 Did you watch Dr. Grands video??
I don't think that he was "unattractive and shallow" at all. This was a young dude in his first ongoing sexual relationship and it's pretty hard to see things clearly.
This case is a reminder to get out of toxic relationships when you still can.
Yes, and don’t have sex before marriage!
@@sunmoonstars0369 at least not with crazy people
@@holiboys you know whats more crazy trying to find a wife as quickly as possible with someone who had a boyfriend
@@sergf3624 and you know what’s crazier than that is losing your interest in the woman you love becoming your wife and devaluing her because she slept with you.
@@sunmoonstars0369 that's religious people for ya.
Travis didn’t follow the cardinal rule, never sleep with anyone more crazy than yourself.
Totally completely agree. I had a gf once who was crZy. Lucky she lived 300mi away.
On Saturday she said I can’t live without u.
On Sunday she broke up with me, because
I live too far away. I was happy.
@@PInk77W1 glad you got over her quickly
@@PInk77W1 Sounds like she maybe wanted you to move back.
@@Gmoney00718 very much so
@@ingrid_inthesky no we met when living far away.
Moral of the story: Ladies, never settle for a man who doesn't fully appreciate you. Gentleman, when a woman shows you she's batshit nuts... believe her.
He was human and she murdered him.
@@antoinettegeiselman1539 .
If you think your comments degrades the comment of @Tara B. You are the one that needs to do a little more self accessing.
Her comment was simply true.
@@williamlynnroden so was mine. What’s your point?
@@antoinettegeiselman1539 ngl she was hot. I can see why he kept going back
Very true. ..a person has to love mentally and physically...also emotionally..you can't get by...not being authentic person...she had mental problems, right from the beginning......she got by being pretty....only..
The woman wanted a serious relationship and marriage. He did too, just not with her, yet he opted to keep having sex with her. They both manipulated each other. The man didn't deserve to die but it's not okay to play someone repeatedly.
If you don't want someone, cut it off. No need to keep the hope alive or just push them to snapping.
@Char Hutchinson YEP!! I do believe that she was pushed to snap.
Exactly.
Meh, she was and remains a drama Queen. She could have just as easily broken things off as he could yet she didn’t. She played him as much as he played her.
As far as Jodie wanting a serious relationship that is speculation. Her idea of serious relationships seems to be drama fueled. It sounds to me like a regular relationship was too boring. Instead the highs and lows of the endless breakups and reconciliations is what she liked. Once the butterflies wore off the only way to keep the high is from relationship drama. And she found it with this guy.
He was a jerk, no question, but she wasn’t being led down some primrose path.
"If you don't want someone, cut it off". Is that what they told Lorena Bobbit?
Totally agree 👍
They were toxic for each other. They were never gonna get that happy after with each other. Great analysis Dr Grande.
Dumb take, low-key empathizing with a psycho who murdered a guy with three three times over lethal means
@@WhiteMousse1980 she’s right but you are too. That statement both sides it. He may have been toxic for her too but what’s the point of saying it, right? He was brutally murdered.
@@WhiteMousse1980 how on earth do you come up with that nonsense? Not for one minute did it appear that was what Dr Grande was doing. He was presenting a non-biased well-rounded analysis based on facts alone. Sometimes it hard for people like you to understand that not all murder victims are perfect angels. They are normal people with shortcomings like the rest of us a lot of the time. Not once did Dr Grand come across like he was "siding" with the perpetrator, in fact he never does in his presentations, he is simply giving a professional opinion after many many years of study, research AND experience as a therapist. It amuses me when lay people make sweeping statements and think they know more than someone with Dr Grande's experience and credentials.
@@carriefawcett9990 Yes well said. So many people here jump on/attack you for making comments they don't like. The truth is the truth, regardless if murderer, victim etc. Dr G is 99.99% on target on most cases😉
Usually there is one toxic person. The partner is usually an empath and tolerates the emotional abuse, neglect and gaslighting for years
This was a very objective take on the case. Both Travis and Jodi contributed to the disastrous outcome of this relationship, if Travis was thinking straight, he would have bolted from the relationship long before it became toxic. People are kinder to Travis simply because he died in such a horrific manner.
True ,Jodi was a psyco and Travis sure stringed her along and kept her for sex knowing they r not compatible ,don't want to have kids or marry .If its casual sex both people should be casual .Jodi was highly obsessed with him and wanted to be the only one .
Travis also overcame a difficult childhood, and seemed to have some kind of deep sexual conflicts. Jodi? Umm, her inner conflicts ended in violent retribution, it seemed.
Jodi had an obsession with a lifestyle - a lifestyle Travis didn't grow up with either but could give her.
Nothing he did justified being treated that way though. She was a monster who was eventually going to blow up on someone.
The mistake Travis made is the same mistake most single men would make. Even if you know the chick is a gold digger you'll still engage for the hell of it because why not? The real problem is Jodi, she spent all of her life chasing aspirations & never completing her goals. She thought by sleeping with a guy who accomplishes his goals maybe some of those attributes would rub off on her. Weird enough the only desire he encouraged her to accomplish is murder.
"She stabbed him 27 times and shot him in the head...he did not survive"
The dead pan way he said it made me laugh 😂
The dead pan way he says everything makes me laugh 😆
What is “dead pan”?
@@krystalroxX7 saying something humorous in a none humorous way and with a straight face
@@pj1995____ thank you
@@krystalroxX7 with a straight face; showing no humor or emotion
Gotta say this is the first balanced presentation of the JA case I've watched. Rather than focus only on JA we get a clearer picture of Travis and the dynamics of their affair.
Yes and I find it very refreshing.
I agree. While he didn't deserved what happened to him he contributed to a bad situation. I've been married for some time but I can still remember those women who you realized early on were going to be trouble and you ran from them just as fast as you could. I'm sure women out there have had the same experiences with certain men. She was pretty and willing and he used her instead of realizing that she was unstable, or maybe realizing it but not caring because she let him do whatever he wanted to her. You avoid those kind of people, you don't take advantage of them, because every once in a while they turn a bite.
Wether wrong or not I have to admit when I found out Travis was a “top earner” for a MLM it completely changed my view of the whole tragic situation. When I first heard of the case I felt this poor dude just lost his life because of a psycho ex (which is true too) but actually taking a look at his character I’ve come to believe he actually was pretty manipulative and dishonorable himself, still he didn’t deserve to die but these two were a match made in hell for sure.
MLM companies should definitely be banned
I agree
Agreed. Although he didn’t deserve to die, he was manipulative, and a corny salesmen. He seemed quite narcissistic.
Both of them.
MLM is a pyramid scam, people who thrive in that business are crooks. Period.
I don't see how he was "manipulative". He was completely upfront and truthful with how he felt about her.
I love this take on their relationship. I never bought the narrative that Jodi was simply some deranged psychopath- she had/has major issues obviously and is far from healthy, but Travis definitely used her and I would say treated her horribly. Nobody deserves to die the way Travis did but painting him as some innocent bystander is ridiculous.
@@nowirehangers2815 she’s not well
@@nowirehangers2815 Well, no, she did something evil, but she was a desperate, obsessive mess. Name one evil thing she did before that? The thing with her brother? Yea, you can probly find that in many families. She nuts, Dahmer is evil along with a long list of others.
Yeah but she could have just shot or strangled him, even if he was a bit shitty it’s hard to feel bad for someone who was stabbed almost 30 times *and* nearly had their head sliced off
I know women don't have prostates so she was having painful degrading sex and no pleasure that's got to mess someone up psychologically.
@@nowirehangers2815 you have such a simplistic way of looking at it- probably how you (ans multiple others) look at the world: black/white, good/evil, etc etc.... to each their own
I am so glad to hear you talk of their joint culpability for this toxic co-dependant relationship. I am sick of being told that Travis Alexander was an angel fell to earth. He was no better no worse than many selfish young people and surely did not deserve to die for his mistakes but he was no angel.
The moral of the story, be careful how you treat others.
No. Shame on you both.
Exaclty.
He was using her for sex and playing with her emotions. Most women would just walk away. Unfortunately, he messed with the wrong person.
Thank you for finally confronting Travis' issues. Everyone else acts like he was a saint
Not really. It gets annoying to people to hear the words 'victim blaming' when a bpd or some other sadist gets murdered, but with Travis suddenly many of those same people suddenly are more ready to point fingers.
he was, as close to a saint as a human will get
This was excellent. I always wanted someone to tap into his psyche. She’s nuts for sure, but he kept playing with her.
I agree. What happened to Travis is horrific and I do not want to take anything away from her heinous crime.
But to place all the blame on Jodi is perhaps a little unbalanced. Jodi was imbalanced. She wanted Travis and was sent mixed messages. Travis was using Jodi for purely sexual pleasure but Jodi still held out hope that she could somehow get this man to marry her. Neither one was able to be objective. Travis should have told Jodi he was only using Jodi for sexual gratification and ended things. But instead,, he led Jodi on and in her mind, she thought sex was the way into creating a relationship with Travis. The day Jodi murdered Travis, Jodi had sex with him believing she would change Travis' mind about taking another woman to Mexico. In Jodi's mind, hot sex had the power to control a man and when she found out this wasn't the case, she snapped and went into a rage. At that moment she likely felt used and felt she had lost any control over this man. She suddenly flew into a psychopathic rage and lost complete control. She wanted to destroy this object who she once had loved so dearly. And she did.
This case is so sad to me. I think a lot of people demonize Jodi and that is understandable. The murder was brutal. But can a person be driven to murder? In some cases, yes. I don't think it excuses Jodi in any way and I think her sentence is just, but I can see there were a series of circumstances that led up to this.
I hope, if nothing else, both men and woman can learn from this. I hope those in the lds church do not promote a culture where it is okay to use non Mormon woman for sexual gratification while waiting for the "right" virgin to come along. I hope that men and women realize a toxic relationship can become dangerous and will seek help before anything close to this ever happens again.
@@kam0406 well said! I don’t blame lds or any religious group for any of the people’s actions. There are bad apples in any group. I’ve known a bunch of guys like Travis. Not excusing her at all, but he was emotionally selfish.
👍👍👍yes, She did what she had to do ...
@@No-nl8jn she didn't have to do it. But in a person who already is dealing with a fragile self image and uses her sexuality to get love, the rejection sent her into a rage. Travis should not have been toying with this person. It was cruel to do that. Still, no human being deserves to be murdered in cold blood like that. I can understand there was a dynamic they both created and unfortunately, Travis paid the ultimate price.
Agree. He of course should not have died but it is obvious he used her and led her on to think they could have had a future together. Not victim shaming, but he holds some responsibility in the situation.
I like how Dr Grande was able to be honest about Travis, who was a hypocritical, manipulative person in his own right and was the cause of his own downfall. Great job!
Unpopular comment for the sake of reality: I was born and raised into the Mormon church and left in my late 20's. Being raised in this culture seriously distorts your ability to understand or relate to finding a healthy path to normal sexuality. Sexual abuse is rampant (I endured child sexual abuse myself and my abuser served a full 20 year prison sentence) even avoiding that level of trauma, taking about sexuality related subjects/issues is beyond taboo in the LDS church. *Questions about sex are usually limited to doctrinal or procreative matters* Mormons are often raised in a way that leaves them sexually stunted in terms of pleasure, but encouraged to "procreate with very little boundary". It's a very confusing lifestyle that perpetuates a sexual abusive nature, in my opinion.
Thx for being open about what really happens
Thank you for your honesty. I hope your pain is gone
Unfortunately this is true of many Christian denominations.
This would only be an unpopular comment if the audience is predominantly Mormon
@@christystewart4567 Not really. Sexual Morality is taught by all the major Abrahamic Religions. Without sexual morality being practiced you cannot hold together a marriage and a family. Which is God's purpose for sexuality, to establish families and marriages in a state of stability and love. Worked for my forefathers. Enduring marriages, with a closeness rarely seen in modern relationships.
This is one sad, sad case. I'm still amazed and horrified at the level of violence that Jodi inflicted on him. Shocking and horrible all around. On a much brighter note, the shirt you are wearing is in a wonderful color for you. You look great in those deep jewel tones.
Seriously! He rocks every shade I've seen so far and you're so right about this too!
tbh, I think his best colour is salmon. he's obviously a spring...
Signed Jodi
I wonder if she used drugs at all- something that could make her snappy and emotional and violent
Give me a Freaking Break in Life! " amazed and horrified"... I'm amazed and horrified that you would use those lame adjectives, then kiss up to Dr G in the same post. Weirdo...
I remember that Jodi Arias made a direct appeal to the jury that she not receive the death penalty. She talked about all the good she would do if she was allowed to serve life in prison. She rabbited on about her claims of having survived abuse, and held up a T Shirt which read 'Survivor'. The irony of a convicted murderer holding up a shirt bearing that word was lost on her.
And I am not sure, but any money she could've or would've had make, it was to go to Travis family, she was delusional.
Life in prison was appropriate. Despite her display, I mean.
Second hand embarrassment doesn’t even begin to explain how hard that was to watch. As Jim Can’t Swim said, she has possibly the most intolerable personality on the planet.
@@l.w.paradis2108 I agree. I am generally against the death penalty, but I did not think her case in particular warranted it.
Shameless and cray.
Dr. Grande, you hit all the points I've always felt about this couple. You didn't just paint her as some evil succubus. They both had problems that contributed to an abusive, toxic relationship. Of course, what Jodi did was inexcusable no matter what he did to her, but he was not a good guy to her. He used her and led her on. And the anal sex , how Christian of him to find that work around. It's not the anal sex + it was him having his cake and eating it, too.
I agree. Travis was almost as manipulative as she was....
Exactly!
I disagree
his CHOCOLATE cake
@@DonPeyote420 😅🤣
I think Travis was jus as toxic as Jodi. All he wanted was someone to make all his sexual fantasies come true. He never saw her as a future wife, and sadly she did see him as a future husband.
Toxic relationships are very common Happen all the time. The fact she nearly cut his head off is the crazy thing
He's a simp.
I think one of them was slightly more toxic...
@@gabagoolenjoyer both were. He pushed her to the point of insanity.
@@alos.h256 she was insane to begin with. I mean, she fucking murdered someone. Definitely a little more toxic lol.
he probably fell for these other girls and wanted to marry them because they didn’t sleep with him and travis kept Jodi on a string which doesn’t excuse violent murder but it def was a reason she was set off.
the other girls also appeared to have more values
@@patrickwontor2061 of course! This is the narrative because none of them slept with Travis.
We don't put value on women based on their sexual history.
@@DrHellcat well you don’t and nor do I but unfortunately the majority of men do.
@@patrickwontor2061 and Travis was then just as bad as Jodi right? It’s not like he was being raped.
Dr Grande keeps his cacti close and his audience closer!😘
Prickly guy has prickly pets.
Great comment! 😂😂😂
Why won’t he cover the Ann Sacoolas murder of Harry Dunn?
@@deltanovember1672 the case is to prickly to touch!
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Travis felt trapped. In his writings to her he said he couldn’t get away. He felt disaster was coming. She delivered it. He wanted to continue using her while trying to find a suitable wife. She made a fool of herself in front of his LDS friends. He couldn’t marry her due to clinging, crazy behavior. Both of them were disturbed. He predicted that she would kill him. What a trap both got themselves into.
I attended BYU-Idaho in Rexburg. I met many young men like Travis. They like to have a behind the scenes chick while courting an LDS girl publicly. Some of them purposely pick converts or girls who aren't serious about the church to have on the side. I suppose it's easier to talk a girl into sexual activity if she doesn't come from a solid LDS family. Travis absolutely did not deserve to be butchered and I hope he and his family find some semblance of peace. However, guys like Travis are fairly common amongst that scene and he picked the most wrong woman to be his "side piece".
Stringing a person along just for sex , no matter the gender is a vile thing to do.
@@cassiemontgomery45 I have heard that. Thanks for confirming.
BS, she called him from the LA area on her trip, knowing he would invite her over, she did not show up uninvited. He wanted to bang before his cruise. Even after she would cut his tires and whole list of other shit, he would still call her for pussy or take her calls, so no, you're flat wrong, she wasn't a stalker, her presence was very wanted.
I've been in the same position as jodi, I was a side piece while he was looking for "marriage material" ladies.
I wasn't even aware because we lived in different cities and i worked full time while he had no fixed job and lived off his parents.
When things started to get fishy and i tried to get away he would pull me back and then drop and then comeback while trying to convince that my anxiety was overtaking and I was "imagining things".
It was horrible, every other week would have confrontations where he would try to gaslight me and i would start another week of work drained.
He messed so much with my head that i ended up sick, lost my job, my apartment, and on my way falling down he discarded me like shit.
Unlike Jodi I became severely depressed and suicidal, locked in a mental ward and kicked out of his country and guess what? They wanted to give me a BPD diagnosis.
It's a horrible feeling to be used and lied and played just for his entertainment because for some reason i wasn't good enough him, but enough for his emotional and sexual needs.
People have feelings, emotional pain hurts as much as physical pain and this case could have ended with my own death, but he definitely ruined my life, my self esteem, my sense of reality.
with jodi and travis case both lives were lost. He's dead. She'll spend the rest of her life behind bars.
Don't use people and their feelings
Just to make this clear; I'm not victim blaming. Travis Alexander did not deserve to be murdered and that is that. I do question what he thought would end up happening; Travis was aware of Jodi's obsession with him and her insecurities, and Travis himself was very emotionally abusive and manipulative towards Jodi. Again, he didn't deserve to be murdered and I certainly wouldn't expect him to think that Jodi murdering him was a possibility, but he must have known that this wasn't a healthy relationship and yet he continued to see her while displaying behavior that is antagonistic and would cause psychological harm to the person he is inflicting it on. It's like playing with fire in my opinion. RIP, Travis.
I mean, when a woman dates a guy that ends up killing her we don't say things like "Not blaming her but she was aware that he had insecurities and was obsessed with her. She was playing with fire." We just say "what a piece of shit that guy is; throw away the key." And nobody thinks it's appropriate to discuss what sexual positions the victim enjoyed in open court.
@@jayteegamble I’ve said almost the same thing about Jasmine Fiore and Ryan Jenkins. So no double standard for me.
@@courtneycallen Fair enough.
@@jayteegamble I think I understand what you were getting at even though it doesn’t apply to me. Do you mind elaborating on your point? Are you trying to say that men who kill their partners are immediately judged and locked up whereas women who kill their partners aren’t? I genuinely want to know because I do think the double standards are very interesting.
@@courtneycallen Yes, although I think the even bigger bias is that it is so hard for us to see men as victims. Our minds have to constantly empower male victims and give them some agency. This is from us all living in a patriarchy (yeah, i'm a pretty-serious feminist). The result is that we don't feel much empathy for male victims, instead we focus on what actions they took that led to their victimization.
LOL! Dr. Grande: "They didn't grasp the concept of a key....."
I worked with a guy that had a crazy little sister. She was 14, and kept stealing his motorcycle. He hid the 🔑 to the bike, and so she plunged a straight blade screwdriver into the ignition and took off. The police called him from the side of I-20 to tell him they found the bike, and his sister was taking a ride to Juvenile Hall.
I like your pfp
Thx!
@@CC-fo7tr hahah that’s funny.
My ex husband used to disable my car by disconnecting the battery. So I still had my key but I couldn’t leave. 🙄. It’s a very very abusive tactic.
if they'd just let her grow weed on her windowsill
lol
So, if your kid did that, you can't think of what to do about it other than call the cops, risk ruining their whole life, and place them under house arrest, or cheer them on for their entrepreneurial spirit? Huh. I could think of other stuff.
@@l.w.paradis2108 i would let her smoke it until she greened out so the lesson is learned
Same
@jaep struiksma hell yeah bro, high five from the having chill progressive parents club lol :)
I was in a relationship like this. Thankfully I got out before one of us killed one another. He did stalk me and try to run me off the road in my car. I also pulled a knife on him because he was abusive. I am so glad I finally found the strength to leave.
Good for you & Thank God you removed yourself!!! I feel for you & I am Happy you’re doing better!! 😃❤️👍✨🙏💯
Lmao. “He wanted to create some distance between them but he also wanted to have sex.” Not sure if that was on purpose but it made me chuckle.
Pretty Much Guaranteed When A Guy Says~
~I Don’t want Any Drama=Knucklehead Player=Drama Ensues
This applies to a lots of men.
Yes- just finished the yard work- time to relax with an iced coffee and Dr Grande ❤️
Yes! That catnip blend of objective factual information and entertainment! He works hard so we can relax and enjoy! Thanks Doc!
I love that too!
Me too. When I start watching my utube videos at night I go to Dr. Grande's first!!!
I love iced coffee
@@carolbenson6524 and others what who else do you recommend to watch on youtube pls?
First time ever!! Both purple plants are out at the same time. I was beginning to wonder if they were fighting over the cream pot, but they both have one. It’s also possible both purple plants are divas & don’t work well together.
LOL
But Beeker is still MIA. I miss Mr. Beeker.
I like how you're not diagnosing the plants, only speculating on what could be happening in a diva cacti situation like this.
The palm plant is still missing. Just speculating if it is on vacation 🪴☀️
I had ZERO clue that Travis was in an MLM. I love that Dr. Grande did not sugar-coat Travis.
THANK YOU!!! People have looked at me like I'm a monster for saying it but Travis was TWISTED! The teachings of the Mormon Church have A LOT to do with with his behaviors (I used to be a member). It was so easy for him to use her for sex and to stroke his ego but treat her like (and believe) she was not worthy of him because she wasn't a good Mormon girl. The thing about people who treat others like that is that one day you're going to mess around with the wrong person....literally.
That's not twisted. That's just ... Human nature. You don't have to be twisted to have sex with someone you don't want to marry.
@@Preservestlandry Not if you are up front about it in the beginning, which we know men never do.
He should have told her to not convert to mormonism because he wasn't going to marry her either way, but he wanted to play her. I don't feel sorry for him.
According to Travis,anal and oral sex is not "real" sex. Only vaginally sex. I know, I can't figure it out either
@@deeandrews7051 Look at his autopsy photos and tell yourself again you're not sorry for him. His throat was cut from ear to ear, you can look inside his throat & 27stab wounds & 1 gunshot to the head. Nobody who did what Travis did deserves to die because of that & especially not in that manner. His MLM job and religion concerned me much more than what he did with Jodi tbh.
There's nothing like doing handstands on s break during the police interview. Thank you Dr. Grande
She was trying to get blood to her brain to make up lies.
Jodi wasn't playing with a full deckof cards.
Relieves stress usually they walk around
@@thereal4113 playing with a full deck of Jokers maybe...
@@annedolan3050 Good one!!! 🤣 I think Travis had a few screws missing too. He obviously wasn't thinking with his brain 🦧
Would you suggest that they both had narcissistic characteristics? I know two people in a similar relationship of superficiality, who both claim the other won’t “leave”. It’s mind boggling. But they both seem to hold themselves in high esteem yet from the outside they both look insecure. Thanks Dr Grande!
Yes I agree...they both had narcisistic and cruel tendencies ...
....obviously he was playing with fire..l
..and I agree some people are bonkers ..
They knew they were bad for each other ..
..but lust , ssx and adventure survived .
......except Travis
I am not a doctor, but I am a daughter of a father who was diagnosed with Narcissism.
with my lack of formal psychiatric medical education/knowledge in mind, I would speculate that this could have been a potential possibility.
Yes I was thinking the same thing. She stalked him and his fiancé. She would break into his house. Many narcissists don’t respect boundaries.
I thought it was interesting that Travis was a higher up in an MLM. I wonder if there is a personality profile of someone whose occupation relies on recruiting people (humbots) to do your their work and pay them while 98% of the time the humbots never see a dime.
But wait, be careful with that logic....everyone signs up voluntarily. So perhaps all of their personalities should be looked into?
Recently met someone in that "line of work"...
Fast - talker, very superficial, ended up exhibiting extreme controlling, oppositional, and aggressive behaviors. Life goal seemed to hinge around a certain obsession that was very self-gratifying and sensory by their own admission -- no, it wasn't sex. Put on good theater of "wanting to care/love". Also, thick pretense of religious piety but stated, "God knows I am a man with needs, he will give me grace" regarding pre-marital sex. Extremely manipulative, relished in double-standard arrogance/entitlement bc "he is a pious man.". I realized in the end given his lack of ability to manage his emotions and lack of social-emotional intelligence, plus verbal & physical aggression to me and extreme acting out (dangerous driving) that he is a toxic mess.
Yes!!! Please Dr Grande, please do a personality analysis on this!
Travis was a "devout Mormon ". Any sexual activity, before marriage, is strictly banned. What a pity he didn't obey the LDS rules.
"she stabbed him 27 times...and shot him in the head...he did not survive"...what a surprise
And sliced his throat. Yeah, he did not survive😟
A small percentage actually survives stuff like that
It's funny that her story was that she shot him in the head in self defense, but he still came after her so she stabbed him 27 times in self defense.
@@anaisabel2956 And dragged his body back in to the shower
Rasputin probably thought it was amateur hour hearing this
The fact that I just finished watching/listening to this 55hr trial... Dr. Grande you read minds, I swear on my life
There's a few people who believe she's innocent. After watching the whole thing, what do you think?
@@dingosmith9932 only watched a few clips and found that she’s a psychotic cold-blooded killer.
@@krystalroxX7 it seems so obvious and yet, Jodie has her staunch supporters!
@@dingosmith9932 I still believe the only truth she told was the gunshot was first, but not the way she told it. I believe she shot him in the shower.
Was that trial not riveting?! I’ve spent sooo many hours watching and rewatching it. I even bought the Juan Martinez’s book, it’s so good.
Travis was a F-boy to the max and she has multiple issues. Match made in hell. He just kept using her and messing with her unstable mind and....disaster
Either way he did not deserve to be murdered. Keep in mind he tried to break it off with her but she kept on trying to pursue him. Most men will give in to sex with an attractive woman. There's a lot of men who use women for sex. Most women normal women move on and not murder them.
@James Rossi she used sex, but hoped this was the key for more. Sbe wanted a life with Travis. For her, she was trying to use sex to get a relationship and stability in her life.
@@MySweetAriane this is very true. But he reached out to her as well. It was both of them. She was using sex as way to get Travis to commit to a relationship.
I’ve replied this on several comments: Watch the Netflix movie! “Jodi arias - dirty little secret” (appropriately titled).
@@kam0406 He used sex! Sex is a bonding activity in a woman's brain. They feel more and more attached to a partner by engaging in intercourse with an excluding partner, continously.
She probably understood that travis felt the same. She would be using sex if she had no feelings for him and were just after other benefits.
Having sex with a person you are emotionally connected with isn't using sex to manipulate. If she wanted to manipulate she would withhold sex, not keep giving away.
"his friends were shocked as well, it just didn't make sense to them"... lmao. Nice friends.
Yeah, that made me a little sad. His friends seem pretty rude
@@ronnie8984 honest friends are the best friends you could have. if he had listened to them about the red flags, he'd still be alive.
If there his friends I like to know what an emeny is 😳🙄 there all out fir themselves
@@uui219 yeah I agree, but they were confused because she was “too attractive” for him, which I don’t agree with. I think he was an attractive guy, and I think it would have really hurt my feelings if my friends said I wasn’t pretty enough for my potential partner :(
Overall they were totally right about her being bad news, though. She isn’t a good person and I think they saw that soon after they initially told him she was too pretty for him.
Did y’all see the Netflix movie? “Jodi arias: Dirty little secret” - check it out if you haven’t. They definitely took a lot of erm, “dramatic Hollywood liberties”, but it *seemed* (for the most part) to be slightly more accurate than the tabloid sob stories painting Travis as this perfectly innocent Saint that was “lead astray” and corrupted/taken advantage of by this Jezebel succubus of a woman named Jodi...
In my opinion they both used each other....😏
I watched most of the trial and I always felt that Travis had a very conflicted relationship with his own sexuality. This reminds me of a famous quote by Saint Augustine- “Lord, give me chastity and continence, but only not yet.”
This is a fascinating case and there is just so much to reflect about their relationship, thank you for sharing your thoughts.❤️
@@spiritmatter1553 Same.🙂
Well said!
That quote tells you all you need to know about Augustine!!
@@TheTam0613
Augustine became a saint
Augustine became a doctor of the Church.
Augustines mom is St Monica
@@PInk77W1 I know Augustine became a Saint. I spent 12 years in Catholic school. I have read Augustine's writings, and I find him less than inspiring, to put it nicely. I find him very problematic and many of his attitudes go to the core of why the Catholic Church has not ever held themselves accountable to the standards by which they judge others.
I didn't know that St. Monica was his mother. I appreciate you telling me that! Thank you 😊
Dr. Grande, have you seen the JCS Criminal Psychology video called "The Wrath of Jodi"? I think it might be one of the best videos the channel ever made. Excited to hear your coverage on the topic also.
Great video! Definitely recommend and agree
'Like a sea lion peeking over a rock'
@@folkloreofbeing omg, i've watched that vid a couple of times and every time that sea lion pops up on the screen it makes me a laugh...embarrassingly.
The best analysis of this case I’ve ever seen so far! Very balanced, objective and factual. Perfect!
I thought so too. I followed this trial too.
Dr Grande is a master at seeing the "bigger picture" - thank you for that.
Dang dr grande brutally honest analysis! 🧐👏🏼❤️ They had a very sick “relationship”.
It’s hard to believe the 90’s are over 21 years ago now.
I knnoooowww..
Yeah 😔
😳
My teenage years. I was born in’80.
Shhh...I'm trying to ignore that lil factoid.
I wouldn’t say that TA was unattractive….he was attractive enough that with other redeeming qualities that he could attract a mate.
I completely agree
‘attract a mate’ i-
I love the way this man talks, so easy to listen too, sounds kind.
Some of the psychology youtubers I watched turned out to be idiots but this guy seems fine as far as I've watched his videos
@@majlordag1889 hi , really that’s interesting , this man seems genuine what I found interesting is
That he does not make Travis a saint, nor Jodie completely cold and inhuman, it’s like he has the ability to see both sides , even though
Taking a human life is clearly as wrong as can be. We have all been hurt , we never did this. But he tries to understand.
Jodi strikes me as a severe borderline personality disorder, a person to avoid even under the best of conditions.
Borderline and Narcissistic and Sociopathic combination. They come in clusters.
@@maidenmarian1 you're so right and it's like making a personal and interpersonal bomb
She reminds me of Diane Downs. Her chit chat runaway mouth talking non stop through her interrogation, along with her evident emotional disconnect, especially when she asks for crime scene photos of Travis' body to satisfy her "morbid curiosity" all whilst she's still denying any involvement! Sheeesh and she thought she was gonna walk on out the cop shop as she'd charmed the pants off the Detective. Crazy deluded woman, good job she's locked up for life. Shame someone lost their life for that to happen. 😞
During the trial the psychologist dx her as that
LUCKLY MY SON GOT OUT BEFORE ANY THING WORSE,
Jodi Arias seems to check all the boxes for borderline personality disorder.
Travis sounded like a serial dater. I wonder how many women he told could be the one👰🤵
Absolutely no way she was borderline. Way too controlled. Also can’t be borderline and psychopathic, they contradict each other.
I was waiting for Todd's analysis of pathology and personality because I like to compare impressions.
She seems to demonstrate traits from all the cluster B disorders, but most of all BPD. From what I can tell she seems to be mid/high in openness to experience, low in conscientiousness, high in extraversion, low in agreeableness, and fairly high in neuroticism. But it would be interesting to see Dr Grande do a video on how mental illnesses are influenced or effect the presentation of personality. Especially cluster B ego disorders. I could see how they could compromise the integrity of someone's "true" personality.
He did a video on Jodi going over the theory of Jodi being given a diagnosis of BPD (it was one of her diagnosis’ given during her court ordered evaluations by the states expert psychologist)
Dr. Grande essentially says that bpd doesn’t really fit. Says there is an old joke. Have three psychologists interview one person, and you’ll obtain three different diagnosis’. State hired psychologist: bpd
Defense psychologist: ptsd/ personality disorder NOS
@@onetwothree1806 To be honest, I think PD-NOS would probably have been the most likely to be accurate. Those NOS diagnoses are used when it's pretty clear that there's some kind of PD but none of the specifically defined PDs really fits.
Damn this was great. It really showed how Travis played a role in this as well. I always felt 100% on Travis’ side like Jodi basically was a predator and controlled him with sex and he was helpless. But it seems more clear now that he should have made better decisions as well. Of course he didn’t deserve to die and Jodi is still 99% of this whole situation. But thanks for reminding us that it takes 2 to tango!
Unfortunately weak men have been conditioned to blame the woman instead of taking responsibility for the decisions of their small head.
@@lesliecas2695 it’s truly our weakness ahahaha
I never thought he was blameless, especially after hearing those taped conversations.
Thank you! I've watched the whole trial, and this is the first analyzes that I think actually makes sense. Jodi being so super vilified (something she undoubtedly made easy) and Travis portraid as somewhat of a saint whose only "sin" was to like sex never made sense to me. Although, her actions; killing him the way she did, are so horrible they kind of give him a free pass.
This shirt color is my favorite! It elevates your plants as well.
You're a powerhouse to be able to get out so much high quality content daily. Don't burn yourself out, now. Don't forget to take vacations when needed. :)
@jonny blaze I shouldn't comment because the creator isn't going to reply? That doesn't even make sense. The point of leaving a comment is to feed the algorithm on channels that you enjoy. It's not about expecting a reply from the creator.
Hilarious though that the creator loved the comment. ❤ Dontchya think? 🤘😜
@@OccultDemonCassette Kind of embarrassing for you..he DID respond.
@@justatexasgirl5583 did you mean to reply to @Jonny Blaze's comment?
@jonny blaze Dr grande liked the comment... it may have made it day a little better. Spreading positive thoughts are not bad.
He seemed possessive.
Jodi: "Hold my knives."
Wow, this had more details than I expected. Thought I knew everything about this. Can always rely in Dr Grande.
What I found telling and chilling was Jodi's last words to Travis' family:
"I do remember the moment the knife went in his throat and he was conscious..........he was still attacking me".
As if, "the nerve!"
How dare him defend himself? She’s a sick freak. PERIOD
@@alishavaldez5359 "Killed him four times"? How is that possible?
Travis wasn’t ‘bad’ looking - I would say average .
But was Jodi REALLY so beautiful? I think she did look good, but only in a fairly average way too,
They don’t ‘look’ like an odd mismatched couple to me 💁♀️
What does personal preference have anything to do with it?
He looks better than her. She looks wack
@@jordanc6249 he is not attractive at all totally not my type...maybe to someone else, but I think she’s really hot (pre prison).
I agree but personal preference is individual. I met my BFF new man and I think he is really gross and she finds him the hottest man on the planet.
Jodi was a fake bottle blonde, why are her eyes so black,it’s scary.
it's never good when D Grande speculates about what could be happening in a situation like yours....
Dr Grande is the real VIP!!! Really, such a brilliant, down to Earth guy. The Travis analysis was very deep and insightful. We tend to see these things through a one sided mirror , but he really painted a very vivid and plausible picture into the depth of these characters. I say characters because we view them that way, sometimes forgetting these are real people, with real lives. Real issues, real personalities....these videos and articles about them is only a piece of their lives. I think the Doc was spot on about them, ESPECIALLY TRAVIS. Well done.
OMG !!! Is it my BIRTHDAY ???? TY Dr Grande, this will be a real treat.
Happy birthday.
@@Americans4Israel4Ever Ty I'm like the Queen I have 2 a year. :)
Happy birthday!!
Happy Birthday! Have a great one! 🎂😃
Omg it’s my BD too!
You are so smooth and articulate...you have the gift of engaging your viewers immediately. I find you extremely interesting and very bright.
Always look forward to your videos! 😊
Refreshing that someone calls out Travis on his behavior. In court it was revealed he trashed his friends behind their backs. He struck me as a generally unpleasant individual. Not that he deserved what happened to him, but clearly they were two people with strong negative energy.
I would love a video on what kind of people tend to get hooked on multilevel marketing
Just guessing, but probably people with the gift of gab/small talk, and a large number of shallow friends?
No one joins an MLM when their life is going well.
The truth about focusing on sex and boyfriends instead of focusing on higher goals.
Agree with both comments
with us borderlines it's all about the sex and the boyfriends
Lynna you’re single aren’t you ?
@@anhedonianepiphany5588 Excellent point.
@@andrewcruz1931Even if she's single whats your point? It's better to be single and be in peace then with someone that brings you nothing but drama and heartache in your life case in point the relationship of Jodi and Travis. Having a relationship is not everything.
When I found out the news that Jodi Arias was baptized in my mission I was completely shocked. Then I heard about this horrible story that happened in my hometown...Mesa, AZ. I looked up her baptism picture, and saw the two elders. I knew both of them as well. I still wonder what those two fellas think when they heard this story.
Just imagine what all her ex boyfriends think!
@@jillellen2631
Yep...crossed my mind too. Especially after she murdered him and then drove to Salt Lake City...to meet another guy.
@@SouthernCal1317😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really, its hard to feel sorry for the victim in this case. He knew she was unstable but kept having relations with her.
Amen
Inappropriate sexual relationships aren't (or, shouldn't be) a death sentence, though.
@@kingayy9267 if u are living with your gf.
You are already dead inside
It use to be highly frowned upon
Now it’s just the norm.
Abortion use to be highly frowned upon
Now it’s just the norm.
Gay use to be highly frowned upon now it’s just the norm.
Being in Debt use to be highly frowned upon
Now we are $30,000,000,000,000 in debt.
Divorce use to be Highly frowned upon
Now it’s the norm.
Being a single mom use to be highly frowned upon
Now it’s the norm
Society now excepts evil, doesn’t change evil.
@@PInk77W1 in your opinion, did he, or did he not deserve to die for having inappropriate sexual relationships?
@@shittywheelies7403 my opinion don’t count.
But God has told us the truth. It’s not about him.
It’s about you and me
Best analysis I've encountered of this case, hands down. Dr. Grande, the reigning king of nuance.
The Jim can’t swim video about the case is great.
It is for sure 👍
Very true!
They need to upload again for real
@@robyn8482 don't think that's going to happen sadly.
@@folkloreofbeing Omg they've uploaded dude
Hope you're having a great day, Dr. Grande! ❤️
That rhymes!
Thank you for daring to tread where so few do when discussing this case. Jodi Arias was (is) as mad as a box of frogs but Travis Alexander was not a saint either. I hate the way victims are deified in death. Travis' toxic and manipulative behaviour in his personal life irrefutably played a massive part in the reasons behind his tragic demise.
Travis didn’t seem to be as mature as other men his age. I think his traumatic childhood damaged him and he was trying to overcome it.
His childhood was tragic, unfortunately, I don't think he was trying to overcome it, he was just taking it out on others: women.
Elizabeth Bathory but you’ve named yourself after an abuser of woman/girls?
I agree. I felt sorry for Travis
@@elizabethbathory6144 Like Nicole Brown destroying another woman's marriage knowingly
OMG I feel so validated, Doc! Thank you! All your takes I’ve had myself ever since I watched her trial!
Dr Grande, I’m always amazed how you break down these cases. I always find your explanations so interesting. Thank you.
I have watched several people cover this case, but I really liked your take on things. Having heard all the junk around the case, hearing a clear and concise version of what was going on with her AND Travis was really interesting. Thanks for the content, keep up the great work!
I am studying this case for a project I’m working on (and I was already obsessed with it) this is the most detailed analysis I have seen! And you did it in only 20 minutes! Thanks!!!
Hi Dr Grande, I was wondering: do you also work the "night shift" on Saturdays? You must have one of the busiest schedules on CZcams. It's truly admirable but please don't wear yourself out.
I watched so much about this case from court to CZcams crime teller, almost everyone put all the wrong on Judi and make angel of Alexander. This is the first honest video I watch about their case. You are the best Dr. Grande🫀🤍 . Stay safe you and your beloved ones 🤍
Another excellent analysis of motivations Dr Grande! I almost wish they’d never met 😞 they were definitely troubled
You know the story is going to be interesting when MLMs are involved 🤣
Great show. *thank you and greetings from Stockholm, Sweden* 🇸🇪
Tjena!
We need to revive Ottoman Turkish
Don't you love the way Dr. Grande tip toes through the minefield that was Jodi and Travis's "relationship" ?
I believe Jodi's parents avoided certain death by being so vigilant when she was young. Also speculating why I am not grieving for Travis. " When you play in the mud with pigs, 🐷🐖you'll get dirty, and they will love it"
Thank you for your unbiased analysis Dr. Grande 🪴🪴🪴🪴
If Pigs are smarter than Dogs, why do we play with the Dog and eat the Pig ?!
@@lorimiller4301 KARMA!!!
@@lorimiller4301 because pork probably tastes better than dog.
I wouldn't know. I don't eat 🐶s!!!!
This is the best description of this case I’ve heard! Kudos to my favorite online psychologist, the illustrious Dr Grande for his always Grande Analyses!! 😜🤗
All forms of sexual activity prior to marriage is viewed as a sin by the LDS church.
LMAO, I guess he missed that part.
Each time I heard LDS I kept hearing and seeing LSD so ..... mind is dyslexic but, yeah I thought the same.....
Look up "LDS soaking"
Its a sin by most religions and God also.
Society tells us it’s ok to play this dangerous game, that we are missing out if we don’t. Fact is people have feelings. I’m sure men and women do it pretty even, stringing someone along for a temporary benefit. It doesn’t have to be sex. A woman might leave a man after he pays off her debts, he feels used.
Exactly!! Just sit your fanny down and watch a few episodes of ANY true crime series. I just wish she had had Enough premeditation to get a life insurance policy on him, wait it out, then of course ditch the camera properly, or just not use it at all. Dammit, Jodi!! You should have called me first, girl!
@@gigi9301 sus
@@gigi9301 Weird comment...but you make a good point about the camera. I have always wondered what she was thinking throwing that in the washer instead of taking it with her. Pretty sure they would not have been able to convict her of pre-med murder otherwise.
Best analysis of the case! Dr. Grande plays in another league! 🙌1️⃣💪
She made up so many lies it's hard to get a hold on what was actually going on. And she made sure Travis would never be able to tell his side of the story. Thank you so much for your thoughts on this Dr Grande!💙💙
Dr. Grande, sir, you have completely nailed this case! 👏
27 times nailed..
As always a well researched and thought provoking video. Thankyou dr Grande
travis wasn't THAT ugly? the good doctor talks about him like he was the elephant man or something.
Yeah, I think somebody has a crush on Jodi. Typical weird doctor... I mean, Travis is better looking that Dr. Grande.
This shocked me, too. This was Inaccurate and unprofessional.
Travis was chunky and had floppy legs when they met. Theres a video of him doing the chicken dance and i feel embarrassed, definitely not attractive.
We just see his face photos and he's ok and when dressed hes well covered, but as doctor mentioned he started working out and losing weight to have more options.
When he met Jodi he wasn't considered an attractive dude.
Jodi was his ego boost to the point he cheated one girl he was dating...ahh not a good guy.
Automatic +15 point bonus for comment using the elephant man! 😂
Dr. Grande, thank you for your professionalism. I was listening to another psychologist speak about narcissistic abuse and she called the abuser an a-----e and used the F word. I immediately blocked that podcast. In all of the podcasts you have done, that I have listened to, you have never degraded yourself by filthy language. Thank you.
You got offended bc I heard a curse word?
@@MrDominic600 Lack of professionalism is decently offensive
Loved this one. What she did was brutal but Travis was a narcissist & control freak too, sending abusive texts. This case will always remain interesting. Thanks Dr G😊💌💜
I’m really glad someone finally told this story as accurately as possible. Both of these individuals had a very toxic and tumultuous relationship. He definitely made many irresponsible and hurtful mistakes. I wish someone had contacted the police about Jodi’s scary behavior. It’s such a horrible and unnecessary ending.
I don’t think Travis was unattractive
He was handsome
He Was Hideously Dumpy
@@user-qq1gv8hf8n I guess if you’re from another country and trying to get a green card....otherwise, no way
Your explanation was profound, complex, yet clearly rendered. Terrific.
One of the ads that interrupted your video had the prominent words MOODY! IRRITABLE ! PMS! I almost choked on my coffee 🤣 Really interesting information, Dr.G. I know the case pretty well but didn't have all the finer details of Jodi's life and romances. Great deep dive! 💜
I love your channel and work. Your clear and calm delivery of the information is wonderful. Lol I'm loving mowing listening to your analysis :) thank you
It's difficult to have open discussions about these things bc often it seems we accused of "victim shaming/blaming", when the reality is we're only trying to assess the ppl's backgrounds and things which may have led up to the tragedies. IMHO, it's rare that there is only one person who is dysfunctional in these relationships. Again, I am *NOT* blaming the victim, merely making an attempt to see what might have contributed to the attraction & signs we ALL can look out for.
I agree with you, Jennifer - an emotionally healthy person would not have got involved with either of these people. I learned this the hard way....!
Right, I: 100% Agree, He is not here to stand up for himself
"Apparently unaware of the idea of a key."😄🤣 The dry humor is over the top. It's amazing how Dr. Todd Grande collects and shares information so neatly.
She looks so innocent and has such a kind smile. How can people look so kind and be so evil inside! That is truly incredible
You have to get to know a person. Looks are deceiving.