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- Cliffe Knechtle has a great conversation with college students at a campus in the southwest US.
The "Give Me An Answer" ministry began as an outgrowth of the dialogues Cliffe Knechtle has had with students on various university campuses throughout the United States. These universities include the University of Maine, Harvard, MIT, University of Florida, University of Texas, University of Wisconsin, University of Minnesota, University of California Los Angeles, University of California San Diego, Berkeley, Stanford, University of Hawaii and the University of Washington. Cliffe spoke on these campuses in front of the Student Union or Library at noon for five to ten minutes. At the close of his initial remarks, he'd open up the time for questions and answers, which usually turned into a two to four hour dialogue with students. His crowd size ranged from 25 - 500 students at a time, and between classes, new students would join the discussion. This was an extremely effective way to reach a large number of university students with the Gospel of Christ.
The most emotional I have seen Cliffe in his videos.
@ 11:58 Cliffe demonstrates his incredible dishonesty and hypocrisy. He reacts to Hoodie's argument, which Cliffe himself has used (czcams.com/video/O3qYZ4r83-A/video.htmlm53s), with such righteous indignation. It's clear that Cliffe was getting tired of Hoodie not reacting to Cliffe's lame arguments like his regular victims, and decides he needs to turn up the heat, pretend take offense and gets aggressive in order to win the argument. What an asshole.
@@futureboy7653 he clearly states why he was offended lol who are you to come to this conclusion about something that clearly upset Cliffe.
@@jonahs697 I never claimed it wasn't clear why he reacted that way, and I clearly pointed out the hypocrisy. Cliffe never actually explains why Hoodie's argument about the arbitrariness of Cliffe's beliefs is so offensive, he simply claims it is, and uses a bunch of synonyms of offensive. He then goes on to say that Hoodie has no way of knowing that Cliffe is Xtian just because he grew up in US, completely ignoring the actual argument about arbitrariness.
@@futureboy7653wow, I didn't know someone could say so much without saying anything at all. Cliffe made it very clear why he was upset and shows how the kids argument is offensive. Maybe you should listen to Cliffe again.
@@GraceAlone614 You are free to address my statements with relevant and valid responses. Merely claiming I'm "not saying anything at all" is not that. I directly address the hypocrisy of Cliffe taking offense to an argument he himself has used.
When Cliffs said “Money”, you could feel that idea resonate through the atmosphere.
Being African American, everything in me tells me I should not worship the same God of the People who enslaved my ancestors... but the evidence is so overwhelming that I have to come to the realization that the slavers were hypocritical when compared to what scripture states...
Dear fellow, you may be surprised that JESUS (Christianity) may have gotten to Africa before Europe or The Whites. At least CHRISTIANITY spread to Africa and Europe at the same time; that's what happened at Pentecost (See Acts 2). In fact, Holy Ghost [God] told Evangelist Philip to go meet African Ethiopian Eunuch. See Acts 8.
@messiahapostle8239 Absolutely, when we look at many of the early church fathers such as tertullian, they are African. We see in scripture we see people like Simon of Cyrene and even Apollos were from African
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Also being African or black is what our kidnappers had lead us to believe we are, when in reality our identity is in Christ, we are all made in his likeness and image. Race is a social construct. It’s part of the curse we have been put under for our disobedience and rejection of God. We are the true Israelites, but still that is not our identity. Just an explanation to why we suffer the way we do in America. Put your faith in Christ that he was sent by God to bleed and die on the tree to take the punishment of our sins so that we may be forgiven and live in eternal life with him in heaven. Don’t identify with what American says. God Bless you brother.
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Brilliant Cliff! Even though I disagree with you on the theory of evolution, your arguments against atheists, skeptics etc are amazing. Your quick thinking and rebuttal is a gift, a gift from our Lord. Well done! You're a blessing to these people. Faith cometh by hearing.
Why do you disagree
He's the best I've ever heard. Can't believe your comment is from 10 years ago.
You believe in jesus, but disagree on his opinion on evolution theory? The same theory that explains how humans came about from a monkey despite man actually coming from the dust of the earth and woman coming from mans rib? We didn’t come from a monkey or evolution, we can from God. I hope after 11 years, you came to understand this good sir🙏🏾
I really appreciate the dude in the background commenting, he really spoke on a lot of our behalves
21:25 I really loved how you ended this
i know this comment is super old, but if you're talking about the guy in the mario hat, literally all he did the whole time was ask the guy in the blue sweatshirt "why does that matter" rather than listening to the conversation
if i was the guy in the blue sweatshirt i'd seriously be like who is this guy and why is he talking cause he didn't add anything at all lmao
I respect young man's poise when it heated up. The wisdom of God is truly with Cliffe to know what manner of delivery is necessary to steer the heart and intellect into confronting the truth of Jesus and the false that the individual desperately clings to.
So many souls will be won through these Campus discussions.
Exactly my thoughts.
God bless Cliffe for the wonderful job he is doing.
Glory to God forever.
12:00 GOT ME WILDIN OUT!!! HAHAHAH I thought Cliffe boutta throw hands bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ 11:58 Cliffe demonstrates his incredible dishonesty and hypocrisy. He reacts to Hoodie's argument, which Cliffe himself has used (czcams.com/video/O3qYZ4r83-A/video.htmlm53s), with such righteous indignation. It's clear that Cliffe was getting tired of Hoodie not reacting to Cliffe's lame arguments like his regular victims, and decides he needs to turn up the heat, pretend take offense and gets aggressive in order to win the argument. What an asshole.
@@futureboy7653 ??? Somehow this is Cliffe's fault when the boy started being disrepectful first by being judgemental?
@@JoeMama-sd2kl Please explain how you think Hoodie was being "judgemental"?
@@futureboy7653 I suppose , by saying that you're "just a christian because you were brought up in a christian home " means that you're (referring to cliffe) just the product of your home and you've no mind / you probably didn't use your mind to think through which means that cliffe is a just a fool (narrow minded person) and i (the guy) is open minded person because a truth claim breeds off exclusitivity.
Instead of that he (the guy) should've said that "WE ALL ARE, TO SOME EXTENT GETS AFFECTED BY OUR ENVIRONMENT/PARENTS"
I do think that cliff got irritated for not just because of his disagreement with him but because he (the guy) isn't intellectually honest (May be consistent but not honest).
But i want to know your thoughts on how cliffe used hoodie's arguement.
@@xesusme2227 You are free to highlight and explain any real intellectual dishonesty you detect with Hoodie's statements.
Hoodie made good arguments, pointed out the arbitrary nature of Cliffe's beliefs, which Cliffe has himself used as an argument (czcams.com/video/O3qYZ4r83-A/video.htmlm53s), and then Cliffe lost his shit because he saw he was dealing with someone better prepared than his usual school-age victims, and Cliffe needed to steer the conversation back into a direction where he holds all power. No wonder Cliffe doesn't get to participate in anymore debates with actual adults, and now all he gets to do is bully kids. Utterly disgusting.
I like how Cliffe is relaxing on the steps as he is talking to the gentleman!
"Nothing is ultimately true" Well is that statement true?
He then proceeds to say "you are only Christian because you are brought up as one" and acts like that is true which is false 😂
Man these kids drown themselves in self refuting statements. The worst part is that they truly believe they're right. 🤦
jesus is truth
He the guy in glasses says that there is no higher authority from God then says that killing people is wrong but if he is going down road then someone else saying killing people is good he cannot then say that they are wrong if in his world view its based on opinions.
@@JoeMama-sd2kl if we are looking through statistics here what the blue guy said has a good foundation. For example since the middle east has alot of Muslims, it is logical to think that most people raised in Muslim houses would grow up to be Muslims. Same applies to america, America has the majority of their population follows Christianity. How Cliffe acted to his argument was completely unnecessary and he practically lost his temper like a child.
God loves you all🙏😊✝️
This is the first time I see cliffs so emotional.
Wow! He just keeps digging and digging!
I didn't like how Cliffe reacted to that guy, although I respect Cliffe.
basspl4y4 I agree. Normally I love watching his videos but this one bothered me.
Same - he’s also mentioned he has an anger issue and I’m sure this is an example of that.
The young man in the hoodie is respectful, and uses reason in his points. Knechtle becomes incensed and keeps raising his voice. Interesting that the more experienced debater resorts to intimidation tactics when faced by this young man and his rational arguments. Just because he wanted to bring up a statistical fact that people tend to follow the faith of their parents, doesn't mean that he is a bigot.
You totally missed the point on how judgmental that argument is…he pretty much said cliffe and everyone else in the world are the mindless products of their parents and environment when in reality that isnt true at all…kids rebell all the time against their environment and their parents especially as they get older and start to use their own mind to think through things, which then leads then to go down different paths from their parents teachings & wishes. And then the kid had the nerve to say he’s right while cliffe is wrong. I agree Cliffe shouldn’t have reacted in such an angry way like he did, but nuntheless it doesnt take away from the fact that the kid was spouting nonsense left and right, even the audience was getting involved a couple times because he was saying jibberish
@@jayjay-hm4ns The young man’s arguments fall where they do based on their own merit. The comments from the audience are their opinions too but don’t make him wrong.
I was just trying to point out how Cliff uses debate techniques that are personal attacks like “you’re digging a hole” and “that’s offensive” rather than actual arguments.
I stand by what I said and don’t think I missed the point. The young man was just bringing up a statistic that people tend to be of the faith of their parents. Cliff was looking for a gotcha and thought he had found one at that point. He was the one who missed the point when he twisted the young man’s words to imply he was making a bigoted assumption about him.
@@jayjay-hm4ns Everyone is a product of their environment. All logical arguments toward the existence of one religion over another are all equally valid, as they all equally go against observable reality. There's a reason most people end up becoming their parents.
Your point makes no sense. Attacking someone in a debate is not tactical or ethical. He didn’t simply bring up statistics, he told Cliffe he’s Christian because he’s born in America. He even said himself it was an assumption. He was wrong. Period! And the fact you’re defending it shows the type of person you are.
@@thirdeye__view The man in the hoodie told Cliffe he was probably raised Christian and he is probably correct about this because of statistics. This is true. The hoodie guy was trying to argue the whole time that you can get to morality through evolution. Cliffe’s demeanor suddenly changed when the hoodie guy brought up that someone could believe something because of their upbringing and Cliffe might be an example of this. The hoodie guy apologized for making an assumption but Cliffe wouldn’t have it and the HE never apologized for his condescension and vitriol towards the man. My point was that Cliffe seemed to be losing and used this one comment by the hoodie guy to go on a rant which to me was when the debate became pointless. I feel comfortable in my analysis of the debate and with the person that I am btw.
Kid in the blue hoodie is 100% correct.
About what?
@@British-Patriotover 90% of people who believe in religion believe in the religion that they were raised in. If Cliffe was raised Hindu, he’d probably be a Hindu.
about him being a Christian because of where he was born. If he was born in a Muslim country he would be a Muslim saying Allah is the God and praying 5 times a day. Cliffe knew that he is correct so instead of replying calmly like he usually does but instead he yelled and intermediated him.
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Because it was disingenuous. It was righteous anger. You still have a choice whether to follow the religion most of your country follows or not. Not every Indian will be a Hindu, not every Brit will be a Christian, not every Egyptian will be a Muslim.
@@British-Patriot I said the person's religion is heavily influenced by his surroundings. If he/she was born in a Hindu family then 99% of the times he'll grow up believing in Hinduism and it's values. If that same person is born in a Muslim family then he'll grow up with Islamic values and the same with Christians. I didn't mention Indian, Egyptians or any other race anywhere. IDK why are you relating race with religion. Anyways coming to his "righteous anger" lol. The blue hoodie guy asked a valid question and most importantly he asked it in a respectful way. He didn't insult Christ or Christianity or the Bible. They both were there to debate and Cliffe got offended by a valid argument. Cliffe knew that was true and had no good argument to counter.
Kid was right.
Ehhhh
Imagine basing a society off his world views
Extremely well said...
Great job though, I appreciate the campus ministry very important to our people and more importantly ensuring the Gospel gets out to a generation who have basically not heard the truths of the Bible despite them growing up in a 'Christian' culture and/or home. May the Lord bless you.
@ 11:58 Cliffe demonstrates his incredible dishonesty and hypocrisy. He reacts to Hoodie's argument, which Cliffe himself has used (czcams.com/video/O3qYZ4r83-A/video.htmlm53s), with such righteous indignation. It's clear that Cliffe was getting tired of Hoodie not reacting to Cliffe's lame arguments like his regular victims, and decides he needs to turn up the heat, pretend take offense and gets aggressive in order to win the argument. What an asshole.
This young man is asking genuine and pertinent questions. Knechtle's response is rude and defensive. Despicable man.
Quick! somebody take the shovel away from this kid!!!
@ 11:58 Cliffe demonstrates his incredible dishonesty and hypocrisy. He reacts to Hoodie's argument, which Cliffe himself has used (czcams.com/video/O3qYZ4r83-A/video.htmlm53s), with such righteous indignation. It's clear that Cliffe was getting tired of Hoodie not reacting to Cliffe's lame arguments like his regular victims, and decides he needs to turn up the heat, pretend take offense and gets aggressive in order to win the argument. What an asshole.
Yes, no matter what a person has done, with true repentance, Christ is there.
So why’d he have to die?
I was fatherless until I met our ONLY Father Jesus of Nazareth. It took me literally finding out the hard way that others won't have to. ❤❤❤
Cliffe is usually easy to listen to but when he condemns the student for making the assumption all my respect for Cliffe went out the window. Never in an intellectual "debate" should you take a point personally. Also I would say that this student absolutely was winning the arguement until Cliffe changed the subject and started attacking the kid for a reasonable assumption.
What the hell are you talking about, that kid was a disingenuous piece of shit, and he told Cliffe he was only a Christian cause of his environment blindly with no evidence that’s the height of arrogance when millions start in Christian homes and go agnostic, millions go from a diff religion to Christianity, he can’t possibly make that assumption in good faith
I never had the kid leading in anything lol.
12:00 Cliffe pulled the most ultimate “NOT AHH” I seen 😂😂
I was listening to this as I was driving, I had to pause it pull over and view the video as I really wanted to see what this guy looks like. It didn't disappoint. He looks exactly what I thought he would... A product of his environment hahah
You're talking about Cliff?😂
the christian guy seems like a really bad debater lol. it seems like he only wants to make his opponent look like a bad person, so that he doesn't have to try to make logical points against the opponent
Yeah pretty much
Bro, have none of these kids who say "Oh, you're just Christian cuz you were raised that way" heard of the genetic fallacy? It keeps coming up every episode, it's incredible
Actually no, I totally agree with you. I've heard people say what I mentioned and they used King Saul as an example. I haven't studied enough to know if it's a real thing. It seems possible to pervert one's own mind enough to make it more difficult to turn to God.
This was the best video of Cliffe I've seen yet. It's horrific how ignorant that kid is to how prejudiced and narrow minded he actually is, yet thinks he's so enlightened and tolerant. That is the American culture today
You speak of prejudice but then proceed to say all young people are like him?
@@ThermsFriend where in my comment does it say "all young people are ignorant"? You certainly are, can't even read. Haha
@@ThermsFriend???? Where did i say all young men are the same? Don't have an answer?
@@ShopharTemplestop yapping 💀
@@Gray_mk haha. You're a mook
The issue with the first guys thought process is I don't agree all suffering is wrong. Without some suffering, we will never strive to become better. As a 40-year-old man when I work out, it's painful, but I know the suffering I experience in the moment will be beneficial for me in the long run. When I save it hurts, because I want to buy the nicest car, the nicest house, the nicest clothes, but I know saving now well again, the beneficial to me in the long run.
Brother Cliffe,...your emotions got the better of you when that kid said "you are a Christian because your parents were". That might not be 100% true in all occasions, but it surely has very heavy truth to it.
Pro 22:6 "Train a child in the way that he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it."
The fact that you don't see the fallacy in your statement is truly worrisome.
How many people have been raised with religious parents yet they turn away from it in their older ages?
@@JohnjOcampo but how many more were raised as Christians and stayed that way. Let's put it this way if I was born in a Christian household I would have a much higher chance of being a Christian throughout life, its just true. Whereas if I was born next door in an atheist or Buddhist household I would probably be atheist or Buddhist. I could convert later In life but statistically I will be as I was brought up.
@@ThermsFriend there are more Christians in asia and africa than there are in "Christian majority U.S"
@@JohnjOcampo How come you didn't see the obvious fallacies with that point? Those are entire continents, and the most populated ones at that, that you're comparing to just the US. Christianity has been the most popular belief in Africa for hundreds, if not thousands of years (Christianity was even in Africa before Europe, Cliffe has gone over this too), and 60% of the planet lives in Asia. Sure they have more overall Christians, but do they have more Christians per 100 people?
@@ShadowRLX the point flew right over your head, the first guy was trying to say that we are Christians simply because we were raised in a country where Christianity is majority dominant and that couldn't be further from the truth.
Our youth is morally confused...the philosophy of science has made a mess of young minds. ...the simplest of moral principles is like a philosophical mountain to these kids...I pray for them
Stupid part about these people is they try to cram philosophy and science together when they’re two completely different branches of knowledge. They contradict themselves right there. They claim they trust science yet most of their arguments are philosophical, including the theory of evolution. Evolution isn’t scientific, it’s philosophical
Science is not a philosophy
@nickwood8203 Darwinism is founded in the philosophy of science...its actually a religion...a faith based pholosophy..people believe in evolution..its a religion...actually a pretty bad religion filled with inaccuracies and looney theories based in absurd postulates like the eye ball evolved....crazy ideas with no scientific basis
What is this lofty say so comment. You made no valid point just camoplaind about the "youth" being bad because of science
The same philosophy that allows you to comment on youtube on your cell phone? Sure, let's blame science for a loss of morality.
At time 21:14 Cliffe you advised the young man to not listen to some preacher, et al... the Bible says,
Rom 10:14-15
How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace,
Who bring glad tidings of good things!
Because at that time, they didn’t have the Gospels which makes hearing the word of God so easily accessible these days. They had the Old Testament, and then the Apostles would preach the Gospel creeds and teachings of Christ verbally before the New Testament was written and organized.
I didnt really give up on anything, infact I didnt really think of this as a debate. More of a "helping each other to think sort of thing"
Dying doesn't have to hurt. Suffering is getting fit in the realm of tough machismo. The minute one really sincerely cries to God for relief from suffering, He hears & answers. To keep on proudly choosing suffering is to be a fool. We're here to learn that evil is bad.
I totally agree with the student in the blue top. Morals come from us, as a species we learned thousands of years ago what is good and bad for society, we all learn it from our parents.. it's a learned behaviour that benefits us as a group.
False, if that was the case who are you to tell hitler that gassing jews is morally wrong?
Uhh oh.. when Cliff is sitting down he is about to give a fantastic argument..
Cliffe lays the smack down!
A great example of “I hear you but I’m not listening”
Thanks for the kind words, I find your channel insightful as well!
I jsut said. to make sure there is no misunderstanding
Numbers 6:24-26,
Deuteronomy 28, Joshua 1:7-8
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32,
Romans 10:9-13,
11 Peter 3:9,
Thank goodness Cliff is here to organize the thoughts of the blue sweatshirt guy. He's hard to follow.
Cliffe is nothing more than a bully.
Cliffe is a bully? That has got to be the funniest most delusional comment I’ve ever read. Considering the kid with the glasses was rude af and told him he’s only a Christian cause of his upbringing blindly with no proof. That’s gotta be one of the douche st things I’ve heard
@@tesla121 well atleast we know you never expereinced bullying lol.
@@JohnjOcampoprofessional meat rider on deck 😂
@@extinctiongaming3556 don't project your homosexuality onto others.
that guy with the super Mario hat is hilarious
Robert Kyosaki says it best “people who are arrogant often uses that arrogance to hide their ignorance”
I'm so amazed how people can package stupidity so well...
It's like the ignorance cycle never end🤣🤣🤣
When the student said China…..UH OH!
all he had to do to shut this kid up was ask " what makes survival good ? " since all his morality comes to survival. As if survival is what justifies morality, next time i cut in line ill be sure to use that, " hey buddy, your not dead so what i did was fine ! "
no both are still morally wrong but I think love and selflessness come into play
He just said that "you can't be that arrogant that you believe that your moral systems are right and everyone else's is wrong" first off, that's literally cliffs and all Christians themselves believing Christ is the only way leading to all other religions will not lead you to heaven. He also said it's judgemental of him to say that if he were not born in America than he would not be Christian. So don't you think it's judgemental of god and Christ to punish you just because of your beliefs. Just because you don't believe in him you don't go to heaven
God bless Cliffe Knechtle. So many rude comments.
Did you even read the question? I added "for whatever reason your own body would suffice." And of course the situation is unlikely... but that does not mean you cannot determine which action is immoral. So I ask again, if the ONLY choices are killing 10 children or 1 child, which is more moral?
Fav video. ❤
True, Repentance.
It's just a choice and I believe, 10 times out of 10, that everyone would make a different choice on what to do in that situation. That doesn't make any choice more or less moral then the other and that doesn't prove that morality is subjective.
Can someone please explain why it’s offensive though. I mean there’s a reason why some countries are called “Christian” or “Muslim” countries. It’s because that specific religion is most dominant in that country. Personally I do believe a lot of people in America are Christian because they were born there. A lot of them do not know most of the Bible and don’t know anything about other religions. So I would say it’s safe to assume that some people just follow what they know without actually reading about it. Prove to me that it could be possibly offensive given that cliff is not Christian just because he is born here. He know a lot about the Bible.
Open-mindedness's opposite would be an image of the "attacker"
if George Carlin where alive today he would say that the guy in the hoody was full of it
No I can't say that I have. Guess I'll be googling that in a few seconds...
Cliffe is an incredibly skilled speaker. By going on to the attack and faking offence he manages to avoid a question that all theists must answer. Why do the majority of theists believe in the religion they were born into. If he was born in Saudi Arabia he'd be muslim.
Sounds like a personal bias.
Would cliffe say the abuse of an innocent child is evil when god commands it? Cliffe says to the student that it's just his taste, well it's just cliffes taste to believe god gives objective morals. Arguing with Cliffe is like debating with a toddler. The percentages say that the only reason cliffe is a Christian is because he was indoctrinated as a child. Cliffe gets insulted over trivial things. Cliffe should stick to debating kids, cause he gets destroyed in real debates. How is that so disrespectful, cliffe should stop the overgeneralizing.
Cliffe's answer would be "no," because it's not in God's nature to command the abuse of children. Per His New Covenant, sealed by the blood of Christ. FYI, Cliffe has debated against failed "new atheist," icons like the sad troll Aron-Ra and soundly bested them.
It's a very simple answer, if you say you believe in one thing and do something else it makes you a hypocrite, this does not equate to the teaching being wrong.
Hey Cliffe, I haven't watched the video yet... but I wanted to say to you, when discussing morality, it's actually better not to even say that it's a matter of absolute vs relative morality. I've discussed with many atheists about it, and obviously relative morality is self-refuting and ridiculous. No one can live it out...
BUT... the point is, morality doesn't even rationally exist in a naturalistic worldview. Why? Because it can't be accounted for.
If you say you believe in something and do not practice it, do you believe in it? I'm not saying Christians don't make mistakes, it is a process which takes time and discipline. Besides the end point is not becoming a perfect person but being reunited to God and that is when wholeness is achieved.
Christianity doesn't claim to prevent evil and suffering. Just cause I call myself the President of the US doesn't mean I am. Just cause you say you're athiest doesn't mean you are... if I say I'm a tomato does that make me not human? Or a kidnapper kidnapping a child because he's sick and twisted... that role doesn't have to be a Catholic priest.
This can be done for both sides and you know it. People can justify insane things with very good arguments for it. We are equal yet your opinion is superior to another's. No matter what you say you do have to accept that in that vein, you may have a moral absolute, but another person will have another, one that's opposite. Is your's superior? I'd say not.
If they are not Equal system..then who assigns the values of the Unequal system.
Guy in the blue hoodie is not as smart as he thinks he is and plus he's being intellectually dishonest.
Michael Weatherford No he was not.
Patrick Bateman Don't bother elaborating -- you are right, and that other guy knows it.
He's as dishonest as the blue hoodie kid.
Michael Weatherford Without God, there could be no objective morality, and yet there is.
Thanks for asking!
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Michael Weatherford Again; without God, there could be no objective morality, and yet there is.
Thanks for asking!
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Patrick Bateman I'm sorry but I love your name lol.
at 6:00 ... it is not relative as "taste". A better analogy is that is like: "i prefer to drink thee over drinking ink". Not because it is absolute "that thee is absolutely objectivly better then ink in an abstract way", but because we understand how bodies function...
You are referring to an objective body of knowledge in order to justify your silly subjective belief system, and you're too dumb to realize that you're only really helping the moral objectivist position in so doing.
That 'objective body of knowlegde' is based on silly 'subjective experience'. It is considered to be objective because it -at least - seems to relate to patterns in reality that are independent of our experience.
So it only supports the possition that there is a real world with physical properties of which we can learn certain things.
The claim that this can only be so if it was created in this way by a god does not follow from it.. and it is this claim that is supposed to be supported..
You don't think what does?
he didnt do what he didnt out of morality. I think he did it out of love
there is a video like that on youtube some where called "John 3 16 a story of love"
He exposed a bigot.
I don't the moral absolutes evolve. Murder is absolutely wrong, always. We don't evolve to a higher understanding that murder is good... ever. That's why it's absolute. That would never change.
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Cliff knows he is wrong when he did not answer the question of whether
go check out ravi zacharias, He is an amazing talker and christian apologist. He is indian and grew up hindu but is now a christian. He is proof that where you grow up does not always determine what you're going to believe in
Amen, Investigate Jesus Christ for yourself not because of parents, a teacher, or a pastor just you and God. And be sincere with God when you go to Him or as the students and Cliffe would say intellectually honest.
Romans 12:3 🙏
"For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith."
so what? that kid saying statistics that the majority who are Christian are because of environment or culture. so what? that does not mean everybody. and what's the point? what does it matter if that statistic is true?
11:59 one moment before this man felt true fear
23:00
I think the kid in the hoodie won the argument by a long shot. Cliff started playing the victim bc he knew he was losing and acted offended.
16:15 if what hoodie says is true here, then he must believe that we don't actually have any free will as that's the only way that "you're a product if your environment" can be true. If we were only the mathematical equation of input=output, then we don't actually think, we just react.
I think Cliffe could have responded better. I understand why he reacted the way he did, i just think there were better arguments.
Cliffe maybe have overreacted to the students assumption.
"The abuse of a innocent child is always bad," How many people would agree that it would have been a good thing if Hitler or Stalin was slain as a child. I know I do.
sorry shoulda been more clear. Im saying ultimately both are not good choices to make. He is in a horrible situation BUT made a very selfless situation purely out of love. Im not saying he did the wrong thing but killing a kid and murdering people on a train are both bad things but he was put in a situation where he really morally struggled, If one was so morally right, then why did he so morally struggle. Plus he did what he did out of love, He knew none of them but he didnt - continued
Cliff can only take on college kids, not real debaters like Dillahunty, who can expose his childish tactics of changing the goal post and gaslighting the questioner if they ask hard questions.
Oh, and once you see his behavior in unedited videos contrasted to what he puts up, his temper REALLY shines through. I recorded the exchange he had with me on the University of Arizona this year and put it up on my youtube channel. Just look at the stuff he edited out and you'll be amazed that this man can call anyone "intellectually dishonest."
The last part of your question, I have already answered. I don't see why they should. No one in the old testament's a "Christian" you know. I'm almost certain you trust the opinion of a scientist more that than mine. Many of them are research scientists (if not all) which means that the 'evidence' they present isn't the whole picture, because they don't know. Notice how their views change every now and then? We don't understand the human brain, how are we to understand the being who created it?
a majority of it. Still readinn it but yeah im pretty sure I know what verses you're talking about I just want you to say them though so there is no misunderstanding
Define our Lord brother Jesus is my Lord
I read the summary of it on Wikipedia...yeah I would say that is kind of random. Seems like a decent read but I mostly read non-fiction.
As an atheists do believe people or equal or not? How as an atheist do you come to this conclusion? If all people are equal, are all their opinions valid? If not how do you decide whose is. If they are not equal, why not? Which ever team you're in can you justify absolute morality as an atheist?
Great vid! Cliff can you point me to biblical evidence that states that God does not force himself on us. I only see the opposite in scripture ie regeneration
Thanks
God Bless you and your ministry.
Take care.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
Does anyone know if there is a clip on Cliffe Knechtle dealing with any muslims? If so can you please reply to me with the link - Thanks
This is the hoses one
Mara Salvatruche are practically disbanding, but I think that's beside the point.