Limited Resources 714 - Wilds of Eldraine Set Review: Commons and Uncommons
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- This week on Limited Resources Marshall and Luis cover every single common and uncommon in Wilds of Eldraine! It’s time to go back to the world of gingerbread men, adventures, and faeries! The guys go deep on this set to help you sort out what to go for, what to avoid, and what to try out. Enjoy!
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Timestamps by Color:
Gold: 00:04:39
Green: 00:26:49
White: 01:09:29
Blue: 01:59:37
Black: 02:47:26
Red: 03:26:19
Artifacts and Lands: 04:01:54 - Hry
It's pretty sweet.
- LSV, on Tough Cookie.
It all built up to this.
It was funnier to me that Marshall didn't catch it. haha.
How about “pie in the sky” when they were talking about Gallant Pie Wielder? 😂
4 hours of content… thank you guys for all the work you continue to do for the community
I was worried i was going to blow through it too quickly and then i saw the time stamp.
LSV calling Tough Cookie "pretty sweet" and nobody reacting to it killed me
How about “pie in the sky” when they were talking about Gallant Pie Wielder? 😂
So a Savannah Lion 30 years later is now a cheeky house mouse... story of my life, squeaking by.
Ah..... I really missed this show. Red aggressive cards getting a D, random blue minimal value cards getting C+, just classic Marshall and Luis. Love you guys.
Hope the cat is ok Marshall, thanks for doing the good work with magic.
21:30 for the celebration mechanic, you are forgetting that creatures that ETB make a role create the two permanents required.
I think Celebration also counts the card itself right? So as long as you play any other permanent with the card it triggers too?
Also almost every saga creates a permanent when it enters!
These common & uncommon set review episodes are responsible for so many of my limited wins over the years. The single best bit of MTG content available for me personally. Much love LR team
For reference on celebration, through adventures and various tokens, Boros has 29 cards that can trigger it with a single card, 11 of which are commons
Thank you for the deeeets!
I was getting annoyed by how often they assumed that the only way to get celebration triggers was by double spelling, when there are so many cards that come in with a token (role, food, creature). I think it could be a lot better than they were giving it credit for.
13:00 At the explanation of Roles, its important to note that a creature can have more than 1 role. The limitation is that a creature can only have 1 role per controller. In a two-player game, that's 2 roles max. Commander sees 4 roles max.
only one per creature from each player. You could see plenty in 2-player game, as long there are enough creatures on the battlefield
@@yellowchair8450 I had said 'a creature can can only have 1 role per controller' I agree I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't proposing that there can only be one role on the Battlefield. I was specifically talking about that each creature can only have 1 role per that roles controller. Or: any creature can have max 1 role per player.
One/each creature can have max 2 roles in a two player game.
bruh@@yellowchair8450 💀
The reason this matters for gameplay is that you cannot remove a Cursed role your opponent put on your creature by giving it a different role
Nobody’s mentioning that you can’t Bargain away creatures when you steal your opponent’s creature until end of turn. Really important part of the format to contextualize those cards imo.
"You block with your parents." A phrase I didn't know I needed until I heard it. Great video, always looking forward to these when a new set comes out.
Splendid! It's such a pleasure to watch these set reviews from such legends!
1:08:15 Hamlet Glutton has the best flavor, it's so hungry it turns the things you bargain into food, so that's why you gain 3 life.
Remember that Enchanting Tales will be present in this limited, meaning enchantment removal may be main-deckable! Don’t want your opponent keeping that pesky bitter blossom
There are even worse ones. Defense of the Heart for example can easily end a game especially in the 5 drop deck.
I had the same thought about a million times during this review
i dont really think so, atleast 80 % of that bonus sheet is either unplayable Fs or low impact playables only like 3 are amazing Bitterblossom, defens of the heart and goblin bombardement. Main decking enchanment removal for that seems quite bad.
Break the spell is 100% maindeckable with all the roles floating around
@@enricomassignani i think trading a card for a low impact token will make you loose alot of Games, just play more creature removal
ill echo the "yall forgot the bonus sheet" remarks, and also add that some of the cards that will do well in gruul's power theme were undervalued imo as a result of similar forgetfulness
Just like the power theme, it was odd how Marshal kept forgetting the 5 mv theme in UG, saying some of the big expensive Blue cards had "no synergy", even going out of his way to list the mechanics of the set like Celebration.
"Heavy is the head that wears the vase" is such great flavor text. Flavor text team has been killing it this set
Card?
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@@Sweetestsadist thx
Not sure if you realize this later or someone else said this but young hero triggers even if your creature has 3 toughness, making it way better, so if it’s a 3/3 it’ll still get one counter off it
Oh yea!! New set reviews are always a good time! Enjoying the video so far thanks 😊
By far the best set reviewers on CZcams! I looked forward to these!!!
Great Episode!
I am glad to see you vibing, Marshall.
I simply LOVE this channel - Marshall and LSV are my MTG heroes.
Just an exceptional review, I hope Marshall’s car is alright. Thanks for all you both do!
Thanks for great content! Helps me feel better when deck building on prerelease night and I can help my buddies with my leftover time
Found out about the prerelease. Immediately came here. Thanks again guys!
41:53 “Yeah, it’s pretty sweet”
Delicious wordplay as always, LSV
I’m amazed that this is 4 hours. Bravo 👏🏼
The Marsh Hulk and LSV still at it and giving so much to the community. You dudes are amazing.
Thank you both for the consistently awesome content 😁👍👍
Thank you, I've been looking forward to this! ^^
Oh, happy days! Always a gift to get an LR ep 😍
Can't wait to put the Young Hero role on that Merfolk Coralsmith. Keep paying to pump it below 3 health and keep getting the counters from the role. Will it work? Maybe, but I'm willing to try.
The role still triggers if the creature has 3 toughness, not just below 3.
Ooo good catch. Super unlikely, but I'm definitely going to try to get it to work.
so excited for this set, thank you guys for all the insight and knowledge you give to the limited community
"You block with your parents." What a line.
Went 5-0 at my local prerelease thanks to you guys. Thanks for all the awesomeness and free advice you've put out over the years. Has made me a significantly better limited and constructed player. Won with RW celebration which is not that difficult to trigger it turns out.
Really freaking good content set after set! Love your stuff
You guys put so much pressure on the green common 5 drops for the UG 5+ cost deck, I'm really surprised you guys didn't mention how Into the Fae Court was also a common 5 drop for that deck
ive been hopeing your last 2 episodes would be this thank you so much im gonna reveiw this a few times be4 prerelease.
Awesome, so happy this dropped
It's worth noting that the Virtuous Role is a Commander only role.
Thanks! I was so confused when they mentioned virtuous role.
Black this set might have the best bunch of names in all of magic.
Awesome video!
46:00 there are X cost spells that can be used at 5+ and ofc Adventures that are cheap to play early and lategame trigger the enchantment as well. It's much better supported in this set than in an average set.
thats such indepth, thank you so much
The Princess Takes Flight / Stockpiling Celebrant combo looks fun.
3:23:50 yes black destroys enchantments now, they thought is was odd that everything else only had one thing it couldn’t destroy while black had two. They made the change a few years ago and we’ve seen weak enchantment removal in black as it’s third in that area
Totentanz has a german name because the card references the Pied Piper, the old german tale about a rat catcher\whisperer
1:44:00 On Stockpiling Celebrant-I played a pre-release tonight with a deck that had Cursed Courtier and Spiteful Hexmage. Very specific (and I didn’t draw the Celebrant) but it definitely felt good in the deck alongside those two and Hopeful Vigil
Rare and Mythic show comin up? Opened some packs off a premium draft and realized I didn’t even know them
18:00 Johann can also cast Adventures
Edit: in general, this set has lot of spell effect that are attached to creature (adventures, creatures that make aura tokens).
Do the 4 power green creatures get a bump because of the "Ferocious" cards floating around in the set? When you mentioned a couple of the creatures which had 4 power this didn't come up, but I might have missed it
i am impressed with them being able to possibly find a way to make auras actually good. by making them these tokens that are bonus add-ons to otehr cards, they've really sidestepped the biggest problem with auras.
PRINCESS TAKES FLIGHT - yes marshall, i think you're supposed to bargain this thing away before ch.3, then it seems like a great card.
Tough Cookie - “Yeah, that’s a card” Marshall - “It’s Sweet” Luis - 😂
Thanx for this! really nice to see you go over all the cards and get a little better feeling for the set.
With the evaluation of all the white cards you guys do seem to forget about the Celebration mechanic.... every card that puts two permanents into play (hopeful vigil, cursed courtier, return triumphant) has a huge upside in this strategy, it might effect the rating of those cards if that is taken into account.... especially hopeful vigil will be nuts in that deck.
For The princess takes flight I could also see it be used to set up celebration by exiling a creature you own. seems like a cute way to get rid of cursed tokens on your own creatures (cursed courtier?).
With rats, food, and roles, this set really seems geared to enable celebration
Stockpiling celebrant can get you back an Adventure permanent, so you can recast the instant/sorcery again. Can be very powerful!
1:46:53 you can bargain it away. Same with curse and young hero and other roles. The set is full of your own enchantments you want to sac or kill. Idk if the one mana kill your own enchantment draw a card is gonna be playable, but if it is then that one also makes this work
Nevermind you got it 👍
The Demistify will draw a card if you kill one of your opponent's roles, too.
Will there be a Lotr sunset show?
Does stockpiling celebrant combo with the activation for Cooped Up?
My guys, we have an entire 63 card enchantment sheet, many of which at the bomb level. We have one of the best pacifism versions of all time. Auras are a core mechanic of the set. And all the enchantment removal is getting crapped on left, right, and center. We're looking at a Mirrodin-style situation where your naturalizes are probably maindeck-able if not at a premium.
most of the enchantment sheet seems more for other formats though, with maybe a few are actually great in limited. Bitterblossom, for example, is great. Smothering Tithe not so much; but its a staple in EDH.
@@trehenry413 Almost all of the uncommons are playable, with more than half of them being quite good. About a quarter of the rares and mythics are bombs, the rest is mostly unplayable. Overall, I predict these cards will have a significant impact on limited and should be taken into account in a set review
Not to mention when they're talking about the +1/+1 for each enchantment as if roles are the only ones. And besides the bonus sheet there's plenty in the main set
I made a reply in another comment's thread that went into great detail. There's about 50 enchantments in the set worth removing. Some more than others and some are your own bad roles or bad Chapter 3s and some are game winning bombs.
Love the content, hope your cat’s ok Marshall!
"Totentanz" is german and means: "Dance of the dead".
"Killdance" (As marshall said) would be "Tötentanz" ("ö" is different to "o") and is kinda strange. I guess you could say so and a native speaker would understand you, but your teacher would mark this as wrong.
greatly undervaluing hopeless nightmare. Calling this as the most underrated card of the show.
Absolutely insane card. The lose 2 life is pushing it over the top; that's a Shock to the face. At common also? Probably gonna be one of the top 3-5 commons in this set
Hope your cat is ok! It’s so hard when animals have health issues.
1:33:15 - The scenario you failed to mention is when YOU make the alpha strike and then save all of your creatures when they try to make trades. Admittedly this is probably best out of sideboard in cases where your creatures match-up well in size against theirs, e.g., you both have a bunch of 2/2s.
I was thinking that, but there's a couple problems with that scenario.
1) It's telegraphed to the moon. There is this card and the trumpet blast that would signal a weird alpha strike so they'll play around it.
2) The spell will only save your guys; it won't guarantee kills. If your opponent makes profitable blocks you've turned this card into a possible burn spell that only hits the dome based on the power of your unblocked creatures while leaving you open to the crackback. That's not usually a card you would run.
But yes, that's a way you could play it.
Where is the rare review? The set drops tomorrow on arena
I am still waiting for the rares/mythics analysis :'(
Best wishes to Marshall's cat ❤
Thank you for the video !
I think you didn’t mention the gruul archetype enough though compared to celebration
Flavor on cursed courtier is so good, also in addition to bargaining it the role can fall off if you can give it another role, then it becomes a 4/4 lifelink with another ability. Also triggers celebrate by itself.
the risk of it being a 1/1 lifelink for 3 mana is a bit too high for my liking though ... don't think it's gonna be very strong unless you're going really heavy into bargain/roles
1:39:30 It looks like they didn't read the young hero role right. LSV says for the second time something like you'll get max 2 counters out of it, but since the text says 3 or less it should be up to 3 counters.
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Do we have a sheet with the rankings?
Discerning financier also nice enabler for Celebration, has to be taken into account.
Hearing LSV saying celebration is probably hard to trigger then immediATEly sitting through the white 2&3 drops like "oh that triggers celebrate by itself", "oh that does too!" sent me into a fugue state. Set looks fun AND funny. Super stoked to greed out a bunch of dumb ramp decks and lose with four five+ drops in my hand for the next few months xD
41:53 "pretty sweet" for a cookie, don't think we missed it Luis 🍪
Stockpiling celebrant is also pretty nice for reusing adventures and for getting rid of enchantment based removal. Not that y'all don't think about these things.
Stockpiling celebrant can bounce your cursed role tokens (I think a couple of creatures etb cursed) or save your stuff from the myriad of enchantment based removal. And it can recycle sagas- combos with Princess takes Flight very well since you can make the exile permanent.
But it does seem to be pretty narrow.
If theres ever a set to maindeck enchantment removal. This is the one
1:50:01 also helps for celebrations if you target a good etb creature of yours
Totentanz is german for dance of the dead. Funny how a german word made it on the english cards.
SICK!
WRT Savior Of The Sleeping, if you lost a role would that still count as being "put into the graveyard" since it's a token?
Just a quick note on Black's enchantment destruction.
When it comes to destruction effects, Black gets cheap single creature destruction, expensive targeted enchantment destruction, no artifact or land destruction, and cheap sacrifice that can designate permanent types but leaves choice to the opponent. If you look at the enchantment removal, they all cost 4+ and are sorcery speed compared to Green's 1-2 mana instant speed enchantment removal. So not a color pie break, it's been available for a while, it's just slow, clunky and expensive.
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Within a color, what is the order they review things in?? It seems really hard to find their review of a particular card
Pretty sure it's by mana value within the colors, and then alphabetical within the mana value. For example in blue they did
1-drops:
Sleight of Hand (U)
Snaremaster Sprite (U)
2-drops:
Aquatic Alchemist (1U)
Bitter Chill (1U)
Disdainful Stroke (1U)
Freeze in Place (1U)
etc.
Wasn't really really interested in LotR limited, so I've got nearly 13 drafts worth of tokens/coins/gems saved up. Pumped about how this set looks; hopefully it plays as fun as it seems.
They seem to missed at 21 mins in that Roles also trigger Celebration (aura token permanents).
Return Triumphant is slightly better when you consider it triggers celebration by itself. You get two permanents that turn. Also, the creature would actually get pumped to 4 power.
2 hr 48 i got your joke about fairy for ego drain LSV but it totally flew over marshall
Tough Cookie: LSV: ”that’s pretty sweet…”
I feel like it's been too long! I don't watch the supplemental set reviews typically because I'm not going to draft them typically. But always love and watch the standard ones! Thanks guys! Also 420
FYI, Tottentanz is German it means death dance.
Edit: I posted this before I got to the part where Marshall looked it up. I will leave my comment here though.
About defensive combat tricks, it might be worth mentioning that Celebration decks will often play their stuff before combat, so offensive combat tricks might be a bit harder to play.
I really love the food theme in this set. It's so much fun flavor wise, and it's nice having something goofy and playable outside of an un-set. Eldraine design is just interesting
Flavor-wise, you say? 😉
@@Shadowkat0326 where have i placed my hyphen
@@AB-gn1ey Oh, you didn't, I was just pointing out the pun.
@@Shadowkat0326 haha wooosh
Great show as always. Not gonna draft this in paper though, sadly the sealed prices in Norway are getting way too expensive.
Take a flight to Poland 😅
I only just found out that this is wristwatch revival. I haven't watched limited resources in a while haha
clearly the enchantment that brings the thing back is clearly meant to be bargained
i think drafting a deck with like 4 hopless nightmares would be awsome. its a black shock that makes them bin a card. then u get to scry later value town...
I can't believe you guys gave stockpiling celebrant a D, this card has so much potential with sagas and adventures
Judging a card by "potential" is always dangerous. I agree that most modern games of limited are just too fast to be playing around with things like this.
twisted fealty (and eriettes tempting apple) do not seem to work with bargain as well as you guys seem to make it out to be. u cant sacrifice creatures for bargain (unles they happen to be a aretifact/enchantment or token creature, but that makes the amount of targets pretty narrow) and i dont remember seeing much other sacrifice outlets in the reviewed cards