Awesome review! Great combo of history and information!!! The angle at 14:56 with the camera on the front driver side mirror is such a cool cinematic shot!
Crazy that the MKIV Supra did the same 0 - 60 time as my 2017 Ford Focus RS that has AWD and launch control, two decades earlier. The MKV Supra is the only new car I have been really interested in since the Nissan GT-R launched. Nice video and review!
You don't buy true Sports Cars for practicality...that's right..can't see out of them as well as a Volkswagen Vanagon...no hidden glove boxes for unnecessary crap!...They are made as street legal racer cars...stiff, uncomfortable, and raw... nothing plush. It's about the G force and sticking to cornering twisties and having the confidence that your tires are going to stick to that road...it's about the sound of the engine...it's about shifting a manual transmission something the mismo is lacking...hope Nissan learns this...
Only half way into the vid but wanted to say *thank you* , loving the editing + style + most of all the unique personality that you always bring 😎 Best Supra upload that I’m aware of, bravo (brava actually ;)
I just got this exact car on Monday, 45th anniversary, manual in Mikan Blast. Everything you say is true. Wind buffeting is real, I do not like the reverse (forward and to the left, too close to 1st gear), parking is tough for me. The power is probably too much for a novice like me…..but it is so beautiful. It looks like a hot wheels car came to life. So fun to drive. No regrets!
I test drove one recently. Amazingly they let me take it out by myself. When I got back to the dealership, went to back it into the spot. Took me a while to figure out how to get it into reverse. Was trying to push down on the shifter, then pull up on the shifter. Finally realized you just gotta pull it really hard to left. I can't ever imagine accidently doing that.
One thing that Toyota was lazy at is not giving contrast stitching on the black leather seats. These are unchanged from the premium trim. Japan also got a limited edition orange Supra and they had orange contrast stitching.
You know, I've gotta hand it to you Alanis, I'm impressed. Because honestly, like most, I thought of the Supra as a re-badged Z4...but you got me thinking about it a little differently...I'll admit, I think it was smart of Toyota to pay BMW for the sake of saving money on both ends. Excellent review as always!
it would be hard and very expenisve for toyota to make a brand new engine that has to be at least just as capable as the b58 engine and you cant ignore the aftermarket and manafacturing support the b58 have even before the sale of the supra if toyota made its own engine it will cost more and probally be less capable less efficient and lack aftermarket support there a reason why even before the supra was on sale people nick name the b58 the german 2jz just think of it this way would you pay 20k extra for pretty much a the same car then this current supra jusst for the sake of saying its a real toyota.
Just drove its little brother. GR86 auto looks great, drove great with its own steel wheel shifter on the steering column. I had a manual Celtics before this, this is like the higher end cars. I am short, I still had to torque myself to get in, but getting out was easier. What I’m worried about is standing next to a truck with a six inch lift kit, can’t see me next to them and runs into me!
I've wanted one since I was a kid... and a new manual was passed on and we're next on the list. Comes today, no garage space, considering just getting it and figuring it out later. lol
Very impressed with ur review! sure this car has been reviewed to infinity by now but this one brought a unique take on it ,hit the points I was concerned about and was alot of fun to watch..I see ur channel is just starting up, wishing you all the best, great content in ur reviews! as far as any car requests: I'd love to see you do a nostalgic ,thorough review of a 2nd gen , stock probe gt 5spd 1993-1997.. the 93/94 ones were the most aggressive , best sounding and stiffest handling...Ive had mine for 30yrs and its my daily!
I drive a lot of cars, and I think not nearly as good as others on the market. But also, that’s just my opinion! (And ultimately, an interior like this one is not make or break.) I’m glad you think it’s perfect, because you should drive what makes you happy!
Great review Alanis. Last year I bought a brand new ''23 premium MT Supra and I love the car. I personally think that the collaboration between Toyota and BMW is a match made in heaven. The reliablility we know and love from Toyota and the ultimate driving machine engineering from BMW is what you dream about. I love when people say its a BMW because to me thats a compliment. I remember wanting a Supra when I was a kid and saw Paul Walkers Supra in Fast in the Furious but I wasnt going to shell out insane money on one today. I didnt think I would like the look of the MKV until I saw it in person and most photos/videos dont do the car justice. The car has a presence that turns heads everytime its on the road. When I finally saw one in person last year, I immediately became obsessed with the car. Sure its not for everyone but it won me over. Personally I am not a fan of the 45th anniversary spoiler they threw on there and that vinvul sticker but thats an optional package at least. As small as the interier is I think its just enough for my weekend car. I couldnt see this car being my only means of transportation but some people make it work. Personally I love the interior because its simplified. The lack of a massive screen and having actual buttons is a huge plus in my book. These days I think borning can be good imo. Also, you eventually get used to the blind spots and learn where to look after some time driving and I only have a bit over 2K miles on the car right now. When it comes to the interior tech its pretty impressive. I dont care for the wireless charging and wireless carplay. It can overheat your phone if you leave it on too long but is convienent for short trips. (The phone holder comes off btw. its just there so your phone doest fly away when you're accelerating hard or "hitting the twisty bits") When it comes to the power... this car is a little monster. The power to weight with the underrated BMW performance numbers makes for a hell of a experience. Personally I do not see why anyone who isnt tracking their car would need more power. As is it can get scary if you arent careful and like you said its extemely comfortable at those speeds. This car wants you to go as crazy as you think you can because it can take more. In the 2K plus miles that I have put in the car I can't count how many times this car had me smiling while driving.
I absolutely love this comment, and I’m SO happy you bought the car and it brings you so much happiness. You deserve the joy, and I hope you continue to feel it every time you drive the car!
This Supra and the new NSX (and the latest GTR but on a lesser degree) have one thing going against them: Nostalgia. Both are great cars but they can't beat the memory of when enthusiast were young with a poster of their dream car on their wall in the 90s, truth is, both cars were not selling in their later years so they had to be discontinued. I'm most certain that in the future, both these new generations will be viewed a lot better and will sell well in the aftermarket.
the current supra well deffinitly do well in the used market comparable to the r35 since there so much aftermarket options you can turn them into anything you want but in all honesty the current gr supra is the closest thing to modern build mk5 supra it faithfully stick to every single defining attribute to the mk4 supra turbo inline 6 AT/MT options capable of easily doubling it power with simple aftermarket bolt onss and compare ot any of the other retro 90s modern car like r35 or nsx the supra is the most faithfull if you take away the bmw aspect the mk5 supra is the best retro jdm car.
As someone who raced cars in my younger years, and have seen how unqualified some people are today that buy performance cars, the car being "well sorted" will probably save some lives and damaged vehicles. 😀
This design speaks to me; wish I could afford one. Mine would be a 2.0 and I'm fine with it being only an automatic, although Toyota SHOULD offer the manual on it, as well. I love the styling, although the blind spots are worrisome. The technology package with blind spot monitoring, among other things, is a must. The 2.0 lacks the adaptive dampers of the 3.0 and its brakes aren't as good, either but since I'd not be running on any track, that's not a concern for me. It being mostly a BMW isn't a problem for me because I recognize that low volume cars often need to share components, even between 2 manufacturers. This IS a great sportscar and I wish it were more appreciated. It has proven fairly reliable too so that aspect isn't sullying Toyota's good name. Wish it were a bit less expensive, though. The base 2.0 isn't a good value against a base Nissan Z which is a few grand less to start. The Sopra's a better car, however. And great review, Alanis! 👍
another thing to consider, by using a bmw b58 there is already aftermarket tuner support. If you are building a tuner car having a built-in aftermarket support network makes the car more appealing.
Fun car. I have a 2023 A91 6MT and it's the most fun, rowdiess car I have ever owned. It can never be better than the MKIV, but I didnt buy it to be better than the 90's cars. I bought to have a fun weekend 2 seater. Not many options left as we get pushed to EVs soon.
The Supra undercuts all its competion minus the Camaro SS and Mustang GT. Its a very compelling option in this performance bracket. Option an M2 or Caymen and they easily surpass 70k USD. Not sure why there is any hate at all for the Supra.
Fun fact about this car: they actually make about 440hp/tq (according to some owners who allegedly dynoed these stock). Not sure why Toyota/bmw underrated the figures, especially by so much.
@@AlanisKing I feel like it’s for a different reason cuz they’d sell way more if they advertised their real numbers. Most people care about the stat sheets nowadays (unfortunately).
Solid Review and a very fair grade assessment. Not everyone can drive a manual (often due to health conditions and not a lack of skill or desire), so I am glad this is offered in an Auto. How does this compare the the ND2 RF Auto for you? And that trunk fit was iffy at best 🤣 Thanks for another great video For me the 3rd Gen in all white will always be my personal pick of Supras but no hate at this Gen at all.
I always wonder if the manual transmission in this feels better than the one in the z4. This was an honest and brilliant review! Please keep doing these for every vehicle on the market 😊
It’s too bad it can’t get a little more squirrelly on a back road, but I think that is the purpose of Toyota having the 86. My friend has a Subaru BRZ and it definitely gets sketchy when you push it 😂
I assure you it can get very squirrely on a back road. You'll just need to push it harder than you are pushing the BRZ/GR86. Tires make a huge difference. Size and type.
People forget the 2JZ wasn’t Supra specific. The 2JZ was used in multiple cars (IS300, GS300, SC300, etc) which is why it was easy for Toyota to justify making it. All these other cars that used the 2JZ back then have econobox V6s now, and putting a V6 or a Lexus V8 will go more against the Supra legacy than putting a I6 from another manufacturer.
I have a soft spot for the Supra. I owned a 1984 Toyota Celica Supra when i lived in Australia and it happens to be the only sports car that i've ever owned or will ever own.
Awesome review, I'm torn between the Type R and the Supra now that I am in the market as a daily with the fun factor I am leaning toward the Honda Type R. Great job again Alanis!
Both so cool. Supra is a better highway driver (Type R is noisy on highways), but Type R is soooooo visceral. I have a video about that one too. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the honest review i hope i get one of these supra in the future. I love driving manual cars. Premium and edition are most likely similar just the rims and spoiler so better to get the premium to save 7g.
This, personally! I mention that in the CTR video. There are some people who would prefer the CTR feel, but I prefer this one when they're head-to-head
Great video Was off the grid for a couple days and the first thing I needed to do was check if you had uploaded and you had!!!!! Best video on this car I feel like every one hated it before they drove it and discounted it because it’s “a BMW” I’m sorry but I like BMW Can I say it’s a bit to pricey for me
Omg! Thank you for checking to see if I uploaded 🤠 it’s so appreciated. I’m really glad you liked the video. (New one coming in a few hours, I think!) I think it’s reasonable to say the car is a bit too expensive for some people, myself included, but looks like this can technically demand a premium imo
Huh... I randomly stumbled upon this and I have to say, you need to keep going! This intro was so different than most car reviews and this video was pretty entertaining. Like something Donut Media would make I would only recommend something to stabilize your camera
Another great review & loved the history of the Supra. Though you say Celica kinda funny. We (Aussie) pronounce it as Sell-e-car. I understand the need of an Auto, and most Auto's are quicker than a Manual. But just for the pure driving enjoyment, has to be Manual all the way.
I enjoyed your presentation of the Supra. I am looking at getting a fun retirement car and would drive it for quick trips. Your description of the driving makes me lean a bit toward the Miata RF. (I am looking at both). Your description of "so removed from the road" is a cautionary flag for me. I loved my 328is BMW 6 so the engine does not bother me. Also, the visibility and interior are another concern. Thank you.
This is not a giant LC500/500h luxury grand touring car. The whole point of it is the driving experience. I really don't focus on the interior color when I drive my 2024 GR Supra (45th anniversary edition). I focus on the heads up display, the effortless passing power, and the excellent steering and handling. The auto transmission version is excellent, and I can drive with a passenger with two cups of coffee in the drink holders. Try doing that with the manual transmission, and you'll have coffee flying everywhere.
I disagree, she sort of drove it for a week. The vent covers can be removed, the ducting is fully functional. For the common driver Toyota kept the plastic covers. There is plenty of viewing and I’m 6’2” but I don’t have a problem with getting in, out, or seeing. The car is not meant for the timid, it’s meant to be driven.
Pretty much every review you see of a new car is someone having the car for a week. That’s industry standard. Also, I said in the review that I’ve driven many track laps in a fifth-gen Supra
Thanks for acknowledging that the orange always looks red.... I really want an orange one, but I am finding that decision difficult because it always looks red! Is there a shot you have that shows the colour in a way that reflects seeing it in real day light?
I love hearing people say "3800 pounds" as IF it is not 2 fricken TONS with a fully clothed driver and whatever stuff gets carted in a vehicle like always. TWO TONS my friends.....TWO TONS. Now IF you dont really really honestly plan to do serious sports car type driving? Just want some sporty looks and luxury then I mean whatever....but NOT me daddyO
I think these look great. Aside from a Cobalt SS I leased for a few years while I waited for the 5th Gen Camaro, I’ve only ever owned Camaros. I would buy one of these, or a Nismo Z tbh. Both are great (although I’d take a 90’s 300ZX twin turbo over both lol)
Man the hype on this new Beamer died so fast 😅 should’ve debuted with a standard transmission option from the get go. Definitely nice looking cars. Friend of mine recently got T-boned in his GR Supra .. luckily for him.. it appreciated in value 😅😂
Great video Alanis. I think the Supra is a fairly good car but Toyota really missed the mark at making it a true successor due to the lack of the 2+2 seating which all other Supra/Celica models have. Like you pointed out in your review it was meant to rival the American pony cars all of which are 2+2 configuration. Totally agree though its a good looking car and definitely inspires a fun ethos.
That's like saying the 3rd and 4th gen supras aren't true successors to the first two gen supras because they're no longer associated with the celica name plate.
Based on what you've said here, I'd be interested in what you think of the gr86 as far as connectedness and actually feeling speed. Hopefully Toyota gives you a Trueno to test.🤞
I don’t think that means I should ignore the interior in a comprehensive review for potential buyers. I’m sure they want to know as much good info as I can give them
Great review. I have tried but I personally just can’t get past the BMWness of the car. It just does not feel like a genuine Toyota. If they just shared a transmission or something this car would be easier to accept as a Toyota, but the heart of the car? That’s tough.
You can always get a Lotus Emira V6 with Toyota engine and transmission. Unfortunately, the electronics in that car are not from Toyota. (Probably by Geely) Thus, the electronics and software have been very disappointing/unreliable.
@@AlanisKing "I'm glad we got a Supra" You could have bought a Supra badge from Toyota 20 years ago and stuck it on the trunk lid of an M3. That Supra badged M3 would have been as much of a Supra as the "MK5 A90" is, which is to say they aren't Supras at all.
I don’t mind the MK5 Supra, but I’m not racing out to get one either. I understand the savings in manufacturers working together but the enthusiasts lose.
I still think they should have just strapped a turbo onto the GR86 and called it a day. I'm not sure what the point of this car is. I'm sure it's fun to drive, but it's ridiculously expensive. (It does look cool as hell though)
5:50 Soooo about the engine. I'm no engineer, but if Ford could double up 2 V6s to make a beastly Aston martin V12, why can't Toyota super glue together two G16E 300hp turbo triples to make one honkin 500+ hp TT 3.2L straight 6? It doesn't seem like it would be that simple to do, but a monster 3.2L Toyota engine would make the new 5th gen a legend. That six could also go in their trucks to diffuse development costs. Or maybe they can first just stop being recalcitrant dorks and stuff that turbo three in the 86.
I'm a big fan of the design of this car but nothing else. I know this is the top trim level but for 65k it should have a nicer interior, better engine, or just be cheaper overall. The fact that the base model makes only 255HP and still costs 50k is a disgrace. This shouldn't cost twice what a GR 86 costs for only 50 HP more. It's not twice the car. I'd take the Lexus RC-F over this any day. That car has an amazing interior and a glorious N/A V8 that produces almost 500HP but unfortunately no manual but for the N/A V8 I don't know who wouldn't make that tradeoff.
Hood the size of California, really Alanis, LOL, the pun is RIGHT there. Also you can review my car, it's nothing special but I bet you can fit one metric Alanis AND on camera-hubby in there LOL
@@AlanisKing oh ok… well I will continue to follow (obviously) Six Flags here Would love to see the behind the scene spill the beans episode of “what feud happened between Alanis and Doug” 😂
@@AlanisKing Totally totally get it. But re-badging a Subaru for the GR and BMW for the Supra is a total business move. That stings from a company that made the original Supra from passion.
@@vasantos-re4hb different cars different markets. C7 is a sportscar while the LC is a super limited production luxury that is barely made as is. Plus the supras came with I6s mainly + people wanting a car that makes easy power with ease(plus the I6 is underrated from factory so it makes power close to the v8 and weights less on the cars nose)which the I6 in it does without issue.
why would they insist on a inline 6? They make a great v6 engine which lotus uses on a $100k car. Nobody wants a sports car that was built to "save money" in R and D. What a total Zupra flop.
Did anyone notice that my husband used Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 in this video (for the fifth gen)? He was so proud of it
As a lover of classical music, I approve! Now you need to add in Summer "Presto" from Vivaldi's Four Seasons 😊
Just king things from both you and your husband. Great video, cheers Alanis and mysterious husband!
And a touch of Für Elise, too
Not to mention Dvorak “American” String Quartet! You guys have great music taste!!
I'm so honored you approve!@@hawkeye454
The car is lovely. but your presentation is even better! I am such a fan of the direction you are taking with your videos.
Ahhhh thank you. This means a lot!
Awesome review! Great combo of history and information!!! The angle at 14:56 with the camera on the front driver side mirror is such a cool cinematic shot!
Thank you so much 🤠🤠🤠 my husband killed it with that one
I love how this Supra is nearly everything I do not associate with modern Toyota’s. Thanks for another interesting and brilliant review, Alanis!
Ahhhh thank you for always watching and supporting. It means a ton
Crazy that the MKIV Supra did the same 0 - 60 time as my 2017 Ford Focus RS that has AWD and launch control, two decades earlier. The MKV Supra is the only new car I have been really interested in since the Nissan GT-R launched. Nice video and review!
You should totally check it out if you get the chance. It's so cool. Thanks for watching!
Should get a nice trade price. Get a couple quotes.
C&D is always posting heroic numbers for cars that are scarcely reproducible IRL and in other publications.
You don't buy true Sports Cars for practicality...that's right..can't see out of them as well as a Volkswagen Vanagon...no hidden glove boxes for unnecessary crap!...They are made as street legal racer cars...stiff, uncomfortable, and raw... nothing plush. It's about the G force and sticking to cornering twisties and having the confidence that your tires are going to stick to that road...it's about the sound of the engine...it's about shifting a manual transmission something the mismo is lacking...hope Nissan learns this...
Only half way into the vid but wanted to say *thank you* , loving the editing + style + most of all the unique personality that you always bring 😎 Best Supra upload that I’m aware of, bravo (brava actually ;)
Wow. I really appreciate this. Thank you for watching and supporting - it means so much
I just got this exact car on Monday, 45th anniversary, manual in Mikan Blast. Everything you say is true. Wind buffeting is real, I do not like the reverse (forward and to the left, too close to 1st gear), parking is tough for me. The power is probably too much for a novice like me…..but it is so beautiful. It looks like a hot wheels car came to life. So fun to drive. No regrets!
Thank you SO much for watching. I hope you love the car and get to enjoy it every day!
I test drove one recently. Amazingly they let me take it out by myself. When I got back to the dealership, went to back it into the spot. Took me a while to figure out how to get it into reverse. Was trying to push down on the shifter, then pull up on the shifter. Finally realized you just gotta pull it really hard to left. I can't ever imagine accidently doing that.
One thing that Toyota was lazy at is not giving contrast stitching on the black leather seats. These are unchanged from the premium trim. Japan also got a limited edition orange Supra and they had orange contrast stitching.
You know, I've gotta hand it to you Alanis, I'm impressed. Because honestly, like most, I thought of the Supra as a re-badged Z4...but you got me thinking about it a little differently...I'll admit, I think it was smart of Toyota to pay BMW for the sake of saving money on both ends. Excellent review as always!
Thank you so much 🤠 I really appreciate this
it would be hard and very expenisve for toyota to make a brand new engine that has to be at least just as capable as the b58 engine and you cant ignore the aftermarket and manafacturing support the b58 have even before the sale of the supra if toyota made its own engine it will cost more and probally be less capable less efficient and lack aftermarket support there a reason why even before the supra was on sale people nick name the b58 the german 2jz just think of it this way would you pay 20k extra for pretty much a the same car then this current supra jusst for the sake of saying its a real toyota.
@@patthonsirilim5739 True that, especially since Toyota is known for quality and longevity.
Just drove its little brother. GR86 auto looks great, drove great with its own steel wheel shifter on the steering column. I had a manual Celtics before this, this is like the higher end cars. I am short, I still had to torque myself to get in, but getting out was easier. What I’m worried about is standing next to a truck with a six inch lift kit, can’t see me next to them and runs into me!
Great car!
Very well done Alanis -- you are a natural at this, and the camera work and editing are great too.
Thank you so much 🤠 we both really appreciate it
I've wanted one since I was a kid... and a new manual was passed on and we're next on the list. Comes today, no garage space, considering just getting it and figuring it out later. lol
That’s AWESOME. Wow! Congrats!
Great review! Love the production quality and shows that you really care
Thank you so much 🤠 we try really hard!
Very impressed with ur review! sure this car has been reviewed to infinity by now but this one brought a unique take on it ,hit the points I was concerned about and was alot of fun to watch..I see ur channel is just starting up, wishing you all the best, great content in ur reviews! as far as any car requests: I'd love to see you do a nostalgic ,thorough review of a 2nd gen , stock probe gt 5spd 1993-1997.. the 93/94 ones were the most aggressive , best sounding and stiffest handling...Ive had mine for 30yrs and its my daily!
Thank you so much for this 🤠 I really appreciate the kind words
She’s tripping , the interior is super nice . It’s simple and perfect
I drive a lot of cars, and I think not nearly as good as others on the market. But also, that’s just my opinion! (And ultimately, an interior like this one is not make or break.) I’m glad you think it’s perfect, because you should drive what makes you happy!
I love bmw and I love Toyota, 6spd is a win win win for me
Hell yeah!
Loved this video. One of the best Supra reviews.
BTW, I love my BMW turbo spooling sound, esp, on cold winter days. 😊
Ahhhhh thank you. I really loved this one!
your pants is the best part of the video lol
Thank you! I like to think the other parts are good too!
Great review Alanis. Last year I bought a brand new ''23 premium MT Supra and I love the car. I personally think that the collaboration between Toyota and BMW is a match made in heaven. The reliablility we know and love from Toyota and the ultimate driving machine engineering from BMW is what you dream about. I love when people say its a BMW because to me thats a compliment. I remember wanting a Supra when I was a kid and saw Paul Walkers Supra in Fast in the Furious but I wasnt going to shell out insane money on one today.
I didnt think I would like the look of the MKV until I saw it in person and most photos/videos dont do the car justice. The car has a presence that turns heads everytime its on the road. When I finally saw one in person last year, I immediately became obsessed with the car. Sure its not for everyone but it won me over. Personally I am not a fan of the 45th anniversary spoiler they threw on there and that vinvul sticker but thats an optional package at least.
As small as the interier is I think its just enough for my weekend car. I couldnt see this car being my only means of transportation but some people make it work. Personally I love the interior because its simplified. The lack of a massive screen and having actual buttons is a huge plus in my book. These days I think borning can be good imo. Also, you eventually get used to the blind spots and learn where to look after some time driving and I only have a bit over 2K miles on the car right now.
When it comes to the interior tech its pretty impressive. I dont care for the wireless charging and wireless carplay. It can overheat your phone if you leave it on too long but is convienent for short trips. (The phone holder comes off btw. its just there so your phone doest fly away when you're accelerating hard or "hitting the twisty bits")
When it comes to the power... this car is a little monster. The power to weight with the underrated BMW performance numbers makes for a hell of a experience. Personally I do not see why anyone who isnt tracking their car would need more power. As is it can get scary if you arent careful and like you said its extemely comfortable at those speeds. This car wants you to go as crazy as you think you can because it can take more. In the 2K plus miles that I have put in the car I can't count how many times this car had me smiling while driving.
I absolutely love this comment, and I’m SO happy you bought the car and it brings you so much happiness. You deserve the joy, and I hope you continue to feel it every time you drive the car!
@@AlanisKing Thank you Alanis! Keep up the great work. We need more people in the car community that are as passionate as you are
This Supra and the new NSX (and the latest GTR but on a lesser degree) have one thing going against them: Nostalgia.
Both are great cars but they can't beat the memory of when enthusiast were young with a poster of their dream car on their wall in the 90s, truth is, both cars were not selling in their later years so they had to be discontinued. I'm most certain that in the future, both these new generations will be viewed a lot better and will sell well in the aftermarket.
You’re totally right! The new Supra looks and feels good. It just has a really tough task
the current supra well deffinitly do well in the used market comparable to the r35 since there so much aftermarket options you can turn them into anything you want but in all honesty the current gr supra is the closest thing to modern build mk5 supra it faithfully stick to every single defining attribute to the mk4 supra turbo inline 6 AT/MT options capable of easily doubling it power with simple aftermarket bolt onss and compare ot any of the other retro 90s modern car like r35 or nsx the supra is the most faithfull if you take away the bmw aspect the mk5 supra is the best retro jdm car.
Great review as always! Loved hearing you on CCF!
Ahhhh thank you so much, and thank you for watching! That was a really fun time
No other BMW has the GE Supra manual, it's bespoke to the Supra. I love mine!
I’m so glad you love it!
As someone who raced cars in my younger years, and have seen how unqualified some people are today that buy performance cars, the car being "well sorted" will probably save some lives and damaged vehicles. 😀
You are so right. Great way to look at it
This design speaks to me; wish I could afford one. Mine would be a 2.0 and I'm fine with it being only an automatic, although Toyota SHOULD offer the manual on it, as well. I love the styling, although the blind spots are worrisome. The technology package with blind spot monitoring, among other things, is a must. The 2.0 lacks the adaptive dampers of the 3.0 and its brakes aren't as good, either but since I'd not be running on any track, that's not a concern for me. It being mostly a BMW isn't a problem for me because I recognize that low volume cars often need to share components, even between 2 manufacturers. This IS a great sportscar and I wish it were more appreciated. It has proven fairly reliable too so that aspect isn't sullying Toyota's good name. Wish it were a bit less expensive, though. The base 2.0 isn't a good value against a base Nissan Z which is a few grand less to start. The Sopra's a better car, however. And great review, Alanis! 👍
This is a very nuanced opinion, and I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for watching!
@@AlanisKing Yes, a LOT of drivers are bugged that the Supra MK.5 is mostly BMW under the skin. I say to them "get over it!"😃
The black interior looks amazing. It is going to be what I'm going to get as well.
I’m glad you love it! Enjoy the car 🤠
another thing to consider, by using a bmw b58 there is already aftermarket tuner support. If you are building a tuner car having a built-in aftermarket support network makes the car more appealing.
GREAT point
Fun car. I have a 2023 A91 6MT and it's the most fun, rowdiess car I have ever owned. It can never be better than the MKIV, but I didnt buy it to be better than the 90's cars. I bought to have a fun weekend 2 seater. Not many options left as we get pushed to EVs soon.
Totally agree. I'm so glad you got one and love it!
You kept me entertained while I was getting my lunch ready for work tomorrow Alanis! Thank you so much! 😄
Francisco, you are continually so kind. Thank you for your support 🤠
You put a lot of effort in your videos and it shows. That 8k should be a lot more!
Awwww thank you 🧡
This review was fantastic. For real, excellent entertainment and information. Also, that jacket is 🔥
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you watching. I LOVE the jacket!
Awesome as always!! Missing your F1 podcasts but you're killing it!!!
I miss it too : ( Thank you so much!
Production/Editing 10/10
Alanis 10/10
Awesome video. Great having history part of your films.
Keep up with your work, killing it!
Thanks so much 🤠🤠
The Supra undercuts all its competion minus the Camaro SS and Mustang GT. Its a very compelling option in this performance bracket. Option an M2 or Caymen and they easily surpass 70k USD. Not sure why there is any hate at all for the Supra.
It's totally a good value against its competition. It's a very good car
Really well done review and presentation. Especially enjoyed the history of the car being part of the video.
Thank you SO much for this
Alanis with the quality reviews once again! 🙌🏻
Ahhhh thank you 🤠
@@AlanisKing Keep up doing these reviews, the quality level is really good! 😊
: ) Absolutely @@DiogoSaNunes
Fun fact about this car: they actually make about 440hp/tq (according to some owners who allegedly dynoed these stock). Not sure why Toyota/bmw underrated the figures, especially by so much.
Sometimes manufacturers do that so they get headlines about “real-world power” (and no one’s ever disappointed). Porsche is a big underestimator!
@@AlanisKing
I feel like it’s for a different reason cuz they’d sell way more if they advertised their real numbers. Most people care about the stat sheets nowadays (unfortunately).
they've been doing that for years
Helps with insurance premiums.
Solid Review and a very fair grade assessment.
Not everyone can drive a manual (often due to health conditions and not a lack of skill or desire), so I am glad this is offered in an Auto.
How does this compare the the ND2 RF Auto for you?
And that trunk fit was iffy at best 🤣
Thanks for another great video
For me the 3rd Gen in all white will always be my personal pick of Supras but no hate at this Gen at all.
Thank you so much 🤠 always agree on the auto - some people need one!
I always wonder if the manual transmission in this feels better than the one in the z4. This was an honest and brilliant review! Please keep doing these for every vehicle on the market 😊
Ahhhh thank you so much. I'll have to try a Z4 soon - I haven't gotten one yet!
It’s too bad it can’t get a little more squirrelly on a back road, but I think that is the purpose of Toyota having the 86. My friend has a Subaru BRZ and it definitely gets sketchy when you push it 😂
If it got a little squirrelly, it would be REALLY great
Turn traction half off and the car becomes a handful. Turn all nanies off and the car can easily get you into a lot of trouble
I assure you it can get very squirrely on a back road. You'll just need to push it harder than you are pushing the BRZ/GR86. Tires make a huge difference. Size and type.
Got one coming to my garage soon. If it didn’t get the manual, that never would be happening.
Really excited for you. Enjoy it!
Killer final line.
Thanks so much (and thanks for watching the whole thing) 🤠
Great video Alanis! Thank you for bringing up the business case; I would rather a BMW Supra exist than none at all.
Thank you SO much for watching. A lot to cover with this car, but it’s important!
Nice deep dive into the history and business case! Great video!
Thank you always for your support 🤠
People forget the 2JZ wasn’t Supra specific. The 2JZ was used in multiple cars (IS300, GS300, SC300, etc) which is why it was easy for Toyota to justify making it. All these other cars that used the 2JZ back then have econobox V6s now, and putting a V6 or a Lexus V8 will go more against the Supra legacy than putting a I6 from another manufacturer.
I talk about that in other videos!
I have a soft spot for the Supra. I owned a 1984 Toyota Celica Supra when i lived in Australia and it happens to be the only sports car that i've ever owned or will ever own.
Omg! I love that. It’s such a fun car
Awesome review, I'm torn between the Type R and the Supra now that I am in the market as a daily with the fun factor I am leaning toward the Honda Type R. Great job again Alanis!
Both so cool. Supra is a better highway driver (Type R is noisy on highways), but Type R is soooooo visceral. I have a video about that one too. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video.
Thank you so much!
I love your content. Anyone who doesn't come over from "that other channel you were on" is a fool.
stupid post - maybe people have diffrent tastes, wants clearly that is WAY beyond your ability to comprehend.
Thank you 🤠🤠🤠🤠
Thanks for the honest review i hope i get one of these supra in the future. I love driving manual cars. Premium and edition are most likely similar just the rims and spoiler so better to get the premium to save 7g.
I hope you get one too 🤠 thanks for watching!
Which shift throws did you like more? This or the CTR?
This, personally! I mention that in the CTR video. There are some people who would prefer the CTR feel, but I prefer this one when they're head-to-head
I had one of those Jeff Gordon jackets in the mid 90's as a kid, it was so cool
I loooooove mine
Seriously Finally an honest review of This car Thank You .
Thank you so much for watching!
Every time I go out in this jacket people ask me if I'm married to Rodney Sandstorm.
Hahahaha
Jg jacket gets me everyyy time. ❤ Hoping homefield restocks the larger sizes of it soon 🤞
Ahhhhh I hope so too! I LOVE it
Notchiness was a new term for me. LOL
Notchy!
"Honey, is that plywood sticking out of the back of that sports car ??"
"oh no dear, that's just a single Alanis they couldn't quite fit inside"
LMAOOO it’s so true though
Great video
Was off the grid for a couple days and the first thing I needed to do was check if you had uploaded and you had!!!!!
Best video on this car
I feel like every one hated it before they drove it and discounted it because it’s “a BMW”
I’m sorry but I like BMW
Can I say it’s a bit to pricey for me
Omg! Thank you for checking to see if I uploaded 🤠 it’s so appreciated.
I’m really glad you liked the video. (New one coming in a few hours, I think!) I think it’s reasonable to say the car is a bit too expensive for some people, myself included, but looks like this can technically demand a premium imo
Huh... I randomly stumbled upon this and I have to say, you need to keep going!
This intro was so different than most car reviews and this video was pretty entertaining. Like something Donut Media would make
I would only recommend something to stabilize your camera
Thank you so much. I really appreciate you watching and saying this
Another great review & loved the history of the Supra. Though you say Celica kinda funny.
We (Aussie) pronounce it as Sell-e-car. I understand the need of an Auto, and most Auto's are quicker than a Manual.
But just for the pure driving enjoyment, has to be Manual all the way.
I actually say “Sill-ica” at home, but a lot of Americans say “Sell-ica”! Thanks for watching 🤠
I enjoyed your presentation of the Supra. I am looking at getting a fun retirement car and would drive it for quick trips. Your description of the driving makes me lean a bit toward the Miata RF. (I am looking at both). Your description of "so removed from the road" is a cautionary flag for me. I loved my 328is BMW 6 so the engine does not bother me. Also, the visibility and interior are another concern. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching! I own two Miatas
The Tim Richmond stuff goes hard
RIGHT? I feel so cool when I wear it
These are such good looking cars.
And that jacket is 🔥.
Thank you so much : )
Can you please review the GR86 next?
I don’t think there’s one in Texas right now! I’ll have to ask
Great video Alanis
Thank you 🤠 I really liked this one too!
This is not a giant LC500/500h luxury grand touring car. The whole point of it is the driving experience. I really don't focus on the interior color when I drive my 2024 GR Supra (45th anniversary edition). I focus on the heads up display, the effortless passing power, and the excellent steering and handling. The auto transmission version is excellent, and I can drive with a passenger with two cups of coffee in the drink holders. Try doing that with the manual transmission, and you'll have coffee flying everywhere.
I’m so glad you love it! It’s a great car
@@AlanisKing Absolutely! I feel as if I am driving an exotic car, given the rarity of GR Supras on the street.
I disagree, she sort of drove it for a week. The vent covers can be removed, the ducting is fully functional. For the common driver Toyota kept the plastic covers. There is plenty of viewing and I’m 6’2” but I don’t have a problem with getting in, out, or seeing. The car is not meant for the timid, it’s meant to be driven.
Pretty much every review you see of a new car is someone having the car for a week. That’s industry standard. Also, I said in the review that I’ve driven many track laps in a fifth-gen Supra
The fake vents in the hood and the doors are absolutely not functional. Who started this silly rumor?
Thanks for acknowledging that the orange always looks red.... I really want an orange one, but I am finding that decision difficult because it always looks red!
Is there a shot you have that shows the colour in a way that reflects seeing it in real day light?
There are some on my Instagram! But the colors in this video are accurate
1:56
Naah it shouldn't be Für Elise
It should be Für Alanis
Great vid!
Worth the wait!
Thank you 🤠🤠
I love hearing people say "3800 pounds" as IF it is not 2 fricken TONS with a fully clothed driver and whatever stuff gets carted in a vehicle like always. TWO TONS my friends.....TWO TONS. Now IF you dont really really honestly plan to do serious sports car type driving? Just want some sporty looks and luxury then I mean whatever....but NOT me daddyO
Gen 2 and Gen 3 Supra are cool. But they still ain't the Conquest.
In Fiji blue with the SHP package, I think this is the perfect car.
Hell yeah
@AlanisKing, serious this or that question.
What do you prefer? V8 LC500 or MK5 Supra with MT.
I get more joy from the LC500, but I would selfishly go manual if it was my only car
I think these look great. Aside from a Cobalt SS I leased for a few years while I waited for the 5th Gen Camaro, I’ve only ever owned Camaros. I would buy one of these, or a Nismo Z tbh. Both are great (although I’d take a 90’s 300ZX twin turbo over both lol)
These AND the new Z cars look soooo good
Keep doing your thing honey. Dope video !
Thank you 🤠
Those hips….
your best vid yet
Omg thank you! I really loved this one. We're trying to get better constantly!
Man the hype on this new Beamer died so fast 😅 should’ve debuted with a standard transmission option from the get go. Definitely nice looking cars. Friend of mine recently got T-boned in his GR Supra .. luckily for him.. it appreciated in value 😅😂
I hope he’s OK!
Great video Alanis. I think the Supra is a fairly good car but Toyota really missed the mark at making it a true successor due to the lack of the 2+2 seating which all other Supra/Celica models have. Like you pointed out in your review it was meant to rival the American pony cars all of which are 2+2 configuration. Totally agree though its a good looking car and definitely inspires a fun ethos.
This is fair. A 2+2 would’ve been so good! Thank you for watching 🤠
That's like saying the 3rd and 4th gen supras aren't true successors to the first two gen supras because they're no longer associated with the celica name plate.
You’re repping the Jeff Gordon swagger sooooo freakin’ hard… 🌈🔥😎
I LOVE that jacket
Doctor robotnik cosplay for sure!
Based on what you've said here, I'd be interested in what you think of the gr86 as far as connectedness and actually feeling speed. Hopefully Toyota gives you a Trueno to test.🤞
Would love it. I don’t think there’s a GR86 in Texas right now, but I’ll ask again!
Nobody buys a Supra for the interior. The looks & the performance is AMAZING
I don’t think that means I should ignore the interior in a comprehensive review for potential buyers. I’m sure they want to know as much good info as I can give them
I was very close to buying one in Toyota showroom…could have both, but I was buying a RAV….some regrets
RAV4 is good!
Wasn't looking at the jacket at all 😉😉😉
You could've taken the cargo cover off to get in the trunk 😂 its just 2 strings holding it on
You’re so right, but sometimes instinct takes over and I forget
great video!!
Thank you : )
Keep up the content!
Thank you 🤠
Great review. I have tried but I personally just can’t get past the BMWness of the car. It just does not feel like a genuine Toyota. If they just shared a transmission or something this car would be easier to accept as a Toyota, but the heart of the car? That’s tough.
So fair. I do understand the financial constraints, though, and I’m glad we got a Supra!
You can always get a Lotus Emira V6 with Toyota engine and transmission. Unfortunately, the electronics in that car are not from Toyota. (Probably by Geely) Thus, the electronics and software have been very disappointing/unreliable.
@@AlanisKing "I'm glad we got a Supra" You could have bought a Supra badge from Toyota 20 years ago and stuck it on the trunk lid of an M3. That Supra badged M3 would have been as much of a Supra as the "MK5 A90" is, which is to say they aren't Supras at all.
I don’t mind the MK5 Supra, but I’m not racing out to get one either. I understand the savings in manufacturers working together but the enthusiasts lose.
I do think it’s the right car for a lot of people! But not everyone, and that’s OK
Hot take - The A80 is a legend, but the A90 is better in almost every way.
Still need to drive an A80 myself. Someday!
I still think they should have just strapped a turbo onto the GR86 and called it a day. I'm not sure what the point of this car is. I'm sure it's fun to drive, but it's ridiculously expensive. (It does look cool as hell though)
It looks soooooooo cool
5:50 Soooo about the engine. I'm no engineer, but if Ford could double up 2 V6s to make a beastly Aston martin V12, why can't Toyota super glue together two G16E 300hp turbo triples to make one honkin 500+ hp TT 3.2L straight 6? It doesn't seem like it would be that simple to do, but a monster 3.2L Toyota engine would make the new 5th gen a legend. That six could also go in their trucks to diffuse development costs. Or maybe they can first just stop being recalcitrant dorks and stuff that turbo three in the 86.
I'm a big fan of the design of this car but nothing else. I know this is the top trim level but for 65k it should have a nicer interior, better engine, or just be cheaper overall. The fact that the base model makes only 255HP and still costs 50k is a disgrace. This shouldn't cost twice what a GR 86 costs for only 50 HP more. It's not twice the car. I'd take the Lexus RC-F over this any day. That car has an amazing interior and a glorious N/A V8 that produces almost 500HP but unfortunately no manual but for the N/A V8 I don't know who wouldn't make that tradeoff.
BTW yes I am in the market for a RC-F haha. I think for the money there is no better interior plus a fantastic engine in it's price point.
The N/A V8s still in the Lexus lineup are soooo cool
Hood the size of California, really Alanis, LOL, the pun is RIGHT there. Also you can review my car, it's nothing special but I bet you can fit one metric Alanis AND on camera-hubby in there LOL
Hahahahahahaha I would love to try
@AlanisKing it's just a boring black 2020 chrysler 300s but the trunk is massive lol if not you and camera hubby at least a couple metric alanis'
Verry nice..
Great job.
Wait, do you not work for Doug anymore?
Did you quit to go work at Six Flags?
I did 🤠 Now it’s just my channel! (aka Six Flags)
@@AlanisKing oh ok… well I will continue to follow (obviously) Six Flags here
Would love to see the behind the scene spill the beans episode of “what feud happened between Alanis and Doug” 😂
Hahahahahahahahaha@@BBQ_T_Bone
AK - no excuses for Toyota. They could have used their V8 from the LC500. GM made no excuses with the C7, so why are we having this conversation?
Fair! But also, a lot of people want an I6, not a V8
@@AlanisKing Totally totally get it. But re-badging a Subaru for the GR and BMW for the Supra is a total business move. That stings from a company that made the original Supra from passion.
@@vasantos-re4hb different cars different markets. C7 is a sportscar while the LC is a super limited production luxury that is barely made as is. Plus the supras came with I6s mainly + people wanting a car that makes easy power with ease(plus the I6 is underrated from factory so it makes power close to the v8 and weights less on the cars nose)which the I6 in it does without issue.
You should do the GR86 next
I asked! But there’s not currently one in the Texas fleet 😞 hopefully later this year!
why would they insist on a inline 6? They make a great v6 engine which lotus uses on a $100k car. Nobody wants a sports car that was built to "save money" in R and D. What a total Zupra flop.
Just shitting all over this car in every way.