You should've tried dual wielding pulley crossbows. I've tried it, and it's really fun AND actually effective at times. 6x bleed arrows is basically a guaranteed proc. Even with other arrows, 6x of anything will be significant damage.
I wish that crossbows were much stronger compared to what they are, they should at least be buffed across the board with the armor piercing property that weapons such as the Pickaxe have. It could turn them into a tool used to take down enemies that have high damage resistance across the board.
Thinking about it, armor piercing properties on crossbows might actually be precisely what they need to have a pragmatic place in the game, this is an excellent idea.
If you mean pierce damage then arrows and bolts already get it they do pure pierce and that pierce is boosted 15% by the spear talisman like all other pierce damage has been so since launch
Let's think about this rationally. Armor piercing on crossbows, with repeater shots easily totaling up to about 300 damage already, would be nightmarish. It'd be like sorceress, except it costs even less to do it. Maybe a bit more damage and less recovery on shots would be helpful instead. There's very little reason why you should be unable to move after you've fired your shot.
Yeah it's a shame, but fromsoft have a history of making crossbows (and non-magic ranged weapons) pretty crap. ER is probably their best incarnation, which should tell you something.
One thing I've noticed with Elden Ring PVP is that there's less parries and more just running and trading/spacing. Earlier souls games were 100% parry bait/punish types, it was a fucking slog where both opponents just baited each other to do something.
@@pretzelbird965I think the jump attack in ds3 was unparriable but also the jump attack was bad in ds3 like not worth using and If anything had a combo it get patched 😔
My "pure" caster build had dual pulley crossbows in reserve for situations that needed it, namely invasions. I used sleepbone and burred bolts and not only did it help tons, it felt cool af Edit: that gatling crossbow in the dlc is gonna go insanely hard
Monk, crossbows with UGS has great sinergies, this is due to the stun of the crouch R1 which let you get a guaranteed shot in the opponent. Making this even better with the pulley crossbow or the Arbalest.
They could've given crossbows an ash that makes a blast that knocks enemies back while pushing you backwards to give some room, or even a dash shoot where you shoot and dash back or in any of the directions you are moving to
That would not really worth as an ash. I think it should be on its default attack, or they should be beefier. They hit bad in exchange for a long reload time
Pully crossbow with sleep bolts combos into jar cannon if you sleep them on the 3rd bolt. Kinda cool! Also the kick weapon art on the crossbow combos into a shot.
I'm wondering if you are even benefiting from the Arrow's Reach Talisman at those ranges. Maybe a different talisman would be more helpful? Ritual Sword talisman might be worth trying if you are trying to chip down an opponent before they can reach you.
I feel that the arbalist should have a special armor piercing bolt for anti sheild, and that explosive should ALWAYS stagger in pvp. Heres a weapon idea make a whacha sheild, basically a greatsheild that doubles as an arrow shotgun lmao, it requires whacha bolts to fire, and the ash when firing gives blocking frames. 😂 we need greases for normal bows and crossbows, like a bowman grease and a bolt man's grease, gives bonus damage and reload/draw speed
I really wish we could have Stormwing Bolts. The ability they have to make people flinch would make them perfect for interrupting enemy attacks like it's budget Bloodborne
Ya know, I picked up the Full Moon Crossbow some time ago but never used it since I'm using sorceries this time around. The description mentioned something about its full power being unlocked with holy bolts. Does something change? A damage increase? Or is that just misleading?
Damn man I thought you were going to stop after all melee weapons but here we are with crossbows, can we expect a video testing all schools of magic next?
I am making a shield crossbow build, this should be pretty fun, a strong shield, a powerful crossbow... maybe the DLC will give us some fun stuff with the new weapons (hopefully more crossbows with better scaling?)
In earlier patches the crossbows were amazing, explosive bolts would always stagger which was so useful. Instantly shut down mages and people attempting to heal.
prolly an odd question to ask but have u planned on making this type of video format (testing a type of weapon) for older fromsoft games like the dark souls trilogy?
i wonder what stagger level is needed, in order to (consistently) follow-up with a crossbow. i believe a light or poke with the zweihander guarantees a crossbow follow-up, but i have yet to test combos with crossbows in an in-depth manner
They were never op but they always used to have a place like in ds3 alot of people used them to get the final hit. This is literally the first time im watching someone in Elden ring not just use the pulley crossbow
think the idea of why they don't have ashes of war is cause they are mechanical in nature. so you can't really focus your power into them you can can swords, magical casting items, or even bows.
Crossbows should have a scaling in dex, even low like D. Crossbows should have more stopping power and staggering effects. Crossbows should have trick bolts that split in three.
The way he manages to pronounce basically everything wrong is just so endearing. I love this content so much and I always look forward to hearing how he's going to pronounce things
11:32 > I really think FromSoft needs to flesh crossbows out more Nah. C-bows are their "crutch weapon", it's a ranged option for someone who can't use bows due to lack of dex. Lack of scaling and fixed damage is so that crutch wouldn't outcompete the real weapon (bows). As such, they will remain as they are. Automatic crossbows from Souls 1 onwards were always treated like rare and unique weapon, they are more outlier than a rule.
Except they are so bad that there is no reason to waste weight on them when you could be using kukris, bombs, or knifes ( except for the pully). I agree that bows should be the main ranged weapons but crossbows need a few things to improve them.
@@quint3ssent1aYou're right about bombs but you can get quite a few knifes and for your point about bows, there are some that only need 8 or 11 dex to use. I definitely exaggerated on the first comment and I agree that they have their niche, I just think that right now the niche is too small because it under-performs in it even though its niche is a "crutch" like you said. Also in pvp I'd argue their niche is less poor mans bow and more of a sidearm for versatility.
You should've tried dual wielding pulley crossbows. I've tried it, and it's really fun AND actually effective at times. 6x bleed arrows is basically a guaranteed proc. Even with other arrows, 6x of anything will be significant damage.
Damn I really forgot to dual wield :(
@@monkwasheredon't worry just make a short about it and we'll be fine XD
Elden ring made gunslinger bard cool before Baldurs Gate 3 did ...
@@quint3ssent1a Nothing compare to the actual dual-wielding crossbow mechanic in DkS2
@@monkwashereI‘m down for another xbow vid
"Fromsofft, let me fire 50 bolts at one time"
Fromsoft: Say no more
Lmao I was just thinking about that crossbow from the trailer
I wish that crossbows were much stronger compared to what they are, they should at least be buffed across the board with the armor piercing property that weapons such as the Pickaxe have. It could turn them into a tool used to take down enemies that have high damage resistance across the board.
Thinking about it, armor piercing properties on crossbows might actually be precisely what they need to have a pragmatic place in the game, this is an excellent idea.
If you mean pierce damage then arrows and bolts already get it they do pure pierce and that pierce is boosted 15% by the spear talisman like all other pierce damage has been so since launch
Let's think about this rationally. Armor piercing on crossbows, with repeater shots easily totaling up to about 300 damage already, would be nightmarish. It'd be like sorceress, except it costs even less to do it. Maybe a bit more damage and less recovery on shots would be helpful instead. There's very little reason why you should be unable to move after you've fired your shot.
On top of that, we could see a greater utility to using a crossbow two handed, like faster reloading and the ability to run and shoot.
Yeah it's a shame, but fromsoft have a history of making crossbows (and non-magic ranged weapons) pretty crap. ER is probably their best incarnation, which should tell you something.
One thing I've noticed with Elden Ring PVP is that there's less parries and more just running and trading/spacing. Earlier souls games were 100% parry bait/punish types, it was a fucking slog where both opponents just baited each other to do something.
jump attacks are non parriable is such a small yet great addition to pvp
@@pretzelbird965I think the jump attack in ds3 was unparriable but also the jump attack was bad in ds3 like not worth using and If anything had a combo it get patched 😔
Ds1 everyone is just trying to get the backstab in lol
There were no jump attacks in ds3 ?@@Grimsly3736
My "pure" caster build had dual pulley crossbows in reserve for situations that needed it, namely invasions. I used sleepbone and burred bolts and not only did it help tons, it felt cool af
Edit: that gatling crossbow in the dlc is gonna go insanely hard
A holy sorcerer dropping their casters and just pulling out a _Ye Olde Glock 19™️_ and just blasting is funny af
@@on_the_inverse_5193 I say "I may be out of spells but I'm not out of options" every single time
@@BigHatLoganGamingi may be out of spells but I ain't out of -shells- bolts
crossbows must be reworked to have armor piercing properties and good scaling.....idk what Myazaki was thinking, this weapon is just miserable
Monk, crossbows with UGS has great sinergies, this is due to the stun of the crouch R1 which let you get a guaranteed shot in the opponent. Making this even better with the pulley crossbow or the Arbalest.
Gael was right all along
@@flintlock37 based
If only we could get the mini gun crossbow build from DS3 and have it in Elden Ring
Yeah true
And make it decent this time, boss weapon from one of the coolest bosses and it gelt subpar...
Apparently, that comment aged like fine wine.
They could've given crossbows an ash that makes a blast that knocks enemies back while pushing you backwards to give some room, or even a dash shoot where you shoot and dash back or in any of the directions you are moving to
That would not really worth as an ash. I think it should be on its default attack, or they should be beefier. They hit bad in exchange for a long reload time
me : can I get gael crossbow?
Fromsoft : here you go. DLC wait for uncle gael to give it to you.
It’s so stupid that only Explosive Greatbolt pierce armor, when everything should pierce armor.
Pully crossbow with sleep bolts combos into jar cannon if you sleep them on the 3rd bolt. Kinda cool!
Also the kick weapon art on the crossbow combos into a shot.
will try it
You have my deepest respect for providing such insightful knowledge
I'm wondering if you are even benefiting from the Arrow's Reach Talisman at those ranges. Maybe a different talisman would be more helpful? Ritual Sword talisman might be worth trying if you are trying to chip down an opponent before they can reach you.
Arrows reach didn't provide much benefit, but it did prevent damage falloff from affecting him as much
pulley xbow with frost bolts seems insanely op for pvp and pve. frostbite gives 20% damage buff
Im a simple man. I see a Monk upload, I watch comment and like!
Indeed
Jar Cannon with Explosive Bolts has become my favorite way to start off Invasions. Yeah, it’s a Greatbow but worse but… It’s a Jar Cannon!
I feel that the arbalist should have a special armor piercing bolt for anti sheild, and that explosive should ALWAYS stagger in pvp. Heres a weapon idea make a whacha sheild, basically a greatsheild that doubles as an arrow shotgun lmao, it requires whacha bolts to fire, and the ash when firing gives blocking frames. 😂 we need greases for normal bows and crossbows, like a bowman grease and a bolt man's grease, gives bonus damage and reload/draw speed
I really wish we could have Stormwing Bolts. The ability they have to make people flinch would make them perfect for interrupting enemy attacks like it's budget Bloodborne
The best offhand weapon is the flail, perfectly combined with a torch.
They're adding a gatling gun crossbow on the dlc so i hope they're buffing crossbows all in all for it
Ya know, I picked up the Full Moon Crossbow some time ago but never used it since I'm using sorceries this time around. The description mentioned something about its full power being unlocked with holy bolts. Does something change? A damage increase? Or is that just misleading?
It's actually meteor bolts despite the description, and they do slightly more damage on the Full Moon Crossbow.
@@morales6224 Ah damn. Thanks for the info.
Damn man I thought you were going to stop after all melee weapons but here we are with crossbows, can we expect a video testing all schools of magic next?
Schools of magic are next, then every ash of war
@@monkwashere beautiful, I'll be here for them
Never heard of like half of the crossbows you tested and now I know what to avoid in my next play through
“Come on fromsoft, let me shoot 50 bolts at a time!” *me looks at DLC trailer* 😅 they heard you
I am making a shield crossbow build, this should be pretty fun, a strong shield, a powerful crossbow... maybe the DLC will give us some fun stuff with the new weapons (hopefully more crossbows with better scaling?)
Do short spear next.
In earlier patches the crossbows were amazing, explosive bolts would always stagger which was so useful. Instantly shut down mages and people attempting to heal.
I hope the repeater crossbow is actually good
I main Greatswords and an Arbalest for my left handed weapon, and honestly it's fun to play as.
prolly an odd question to ask but have u planned on making this type of video format (testing a type of weapon) for older fromsoft games like the dark souls trilogy?
Merry Christmas everybody
Merry crossbowmass everyone
Full moon crossbow is S tier in terms of drip.
Merry Christmas monk❤❤
Are you going to make like a staff or seal version of this?
There's zero variety aside from scaling (and the carian regal scepters weapon art)
@@BigHatLoganGaming yeah i just don't want this series to end
All incantations and sorceries (which will include seals and staves)
@@monkwashere yay that sounds really cool i will definitely watch that
i wonder what stagger level is needed, in order to (consistently) follow-up with a crossbow. i believe a light or poke with the zweihander guarantees a crossbow follow-up, but i have yet to test combos with crossbows in an in-depth manner
3:38 at least he didn’t point down
When it comes to dragons the damage shoots up drastically especially with the heavy special ones
in ds3 i loved the xbow meta. especially on console where it‘s harder to aim. Kinda sad that they still do not stun on 1.10
Crossbows are great for invasions.
Cool vid, I'm guessing and hoping there'll be blackflame bolts in the DLC
Jar cannon goes brrr
love you monkie
They were never op but they always used to have a place like in ds3 alot of people used them to get the final hit. This is literally the first time im watching someone in Elden ring not just use the pulley crossbow
think the idea of why they don't have ashes of war is cause they are mechanical in nature. so you can't really focus your power into them you can can swords, magical casting items, or even bows.
Fun fact that the Arbalest is actually called Heavy crossbow in souls games
Crossbows should have a scaling in dex, even low like D.
Crossbows should have more stopping power and staggering effects.
Crossbows should have trick bolts that split in three.
The title card on this channel is hilarious 👏
If you equip the jar pot you can give the jar cannon a boost in damage
Truly an amazing weapon class
11:28 he predicted the DLC
How do you max out every weapon and respec so many times? Larva tears are hard to come by
was the black key crossbow reloading faster? It looked like it was
Totallg random but you ahould do a sekiro run!! Thanks for the content as always and happy new years!!
Happy New Year! And once this series is done Sekiro and old Souls games will be played
If you think the Pulley crossbow is bad wait for the Spread Crossbow with sleep bolts
"lets see that again" lol.
The lack of ashes of war is what killed crossbows for me, just not that fun to use them, kinda bland
Watching this so I know what to use for my Big Jack Horner build
Yo I’ve been waiting for this
Wtf is the armor chest piece your wearing?
It’s the Ronin’s Armour! Hope that helps!
Did you test greatbows yet?
Got the curved greatsword meta scrub almost loseing to a cross bow then shit poting lmao.
there are new crossbows from the dlc
So sad you can't put spinning weapon on crossbows.
The way he manages to pronounce basically everything wrong is just so endearing. I love this content so much and I always look forward to hearing how he's going to pronounce things
What’s good my boy
This greatsword how did i get?
O dlc crossbow give me rapid-fire crossbow 😂
Cool now rank all the shields
I like monk. Monk best monk
Damn, bro really shat on you smh
Scrongus
Heavy crossbow. Heavy crossbow is the best.
if from would quit hating the things xD
i understand them not scaling, but please quit making xbows dogwater
11:32
> I really think FromSoft needs to flesh crossbows out more
Nah. C-bows are their "crutch weapon", it's a ranged option for someone who can't use bows due to lack of dex. Lack of scaling and fixed damage is so that crutch wouldn't outcompete the real weapon (bows). As such, they will remain as they are. Automatic crossbows from Souls 1 onwards were always treated like rare and unique weapon, they are more outlier than a rule.
Except they are so bad that there is no reason to waste weight on them when you could be using kukris, bombs, or knifes ( except for the pully). I agree that bows should be the main ranged weapons but crossbows need a few things to improve them.
Throwables usually have less range and less ammunition (usually something like 10-15 bombs/knives), so maybe C-bows have a niche too.
@@quint3ssent1aYou're right about bombs but you can get quite a few knifes and for your point about bows, there are some that only need 8 or 11 dex to use. I definitely exaggerated on the first comment and I agree that they have their niche, I just think that right now the niche is too small because it under-performs in it even though its niche is a "crutch" like you said. Also in pvp I'd argue their niche is less poor mans bow and more of a sidearm for versatility.
Never been this early
monk we fought twice and i demolished u both but neither showed up :((((
My brain keeps imagining Pulley Crossbow with Sleep bolts plus Marais' Executioner Sword in PvP. I think it might be a war crime.
Duel pulleys is actually cool. Makes you feel like a gunslinger and 6 bolts can easily proc status effects really quickly
I'm trying this
yoooooo i was here at 426 views
Nice Lag Fights in the Arena, this Game is so bad in PvP Connection 😌
Tucker was out of pocket for the pot. Like damn
Full auto crossbow………
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