How To Aim Using Side Spin
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2019
- In this pool lesson I am going to show you how spin changes the path of the cueball and the object ball and how to adjust your aim when using spin. In order to understand how the cueball and the object ball react, and how you have to adjust your aim, you have to know about deflection, cut induced throw, spin induced throw and the ghost ball principle.
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This is a very complex topic. I tried my best to be scientific and at the same time make it as easy as possible to understand. But there are so many factors and so many variables like speed, follow through, cutting angle, amount of spin and even elevation of the cue (which I cut out in this lesson, otherwise we would have also had swerve as an factor).
So your task after this lesson is to put the information from this video together and to experiment how much the cueball and object ball path change with all the different factors. All of this maybe sounds very confusing to beginners, but believe me - it isn't. Most adjustments work automatically if you repeat it over and over again. But it's nice to know what's behind it.
Enjoy!
Good job with this lesson mate :) Really enjoying your channel and thinking about joining your website/academy.
Heard of a few experts advocating for faster stroke speeds on most shots, saying it makes aiming more natural, and like u said with practice it does come more as instinct eventually.
You can counteract the deflection with tracing.
The best way to learn spinning the cue ball is along the long rail. First against the rail with max left or right depending on which side you start at. If on left then max left if right then max right . then at the #1diamond spot then centre diamond spot then 3rd diamond spot. Learning in both directions right to left or left to right. It teaches you something you will never learn aiming at object balls. Not trolling your video, spinning cue balls is not the same for everyone. Depends if you are right or left handed more than anything. It makes all the difference in the world.
Briggz There is another factor not mentioned in this video. This factor is curve. When you hit a ball with side, the ball will deflect like the video mentions but when the ball quits sliding and the spin of the ball starts getting traction on the table, the spin will cause the ball to curve. So left spin will cause the ball to deflect right, until the ball gets traction at which point the ball will start to curve left.
If you were to draw a line through the centers of the cue ball and odjectball on a straight in shot, some soft shots with extreme side can actually deflect opposite of the side you hit then curve back across the center line making the “aim point” be on the opposite side of the “contact point” than deflection alone would indicate. In other words, if I am using left side spin then I would normally aim left of the contact point to compensate for deflection to the right. But a soft shot will deflect the cue ball right of the centerline but because the shot was hot soft it won’t take long for the cue ball to quit sliding so deflection won’t have taken the cue ball too far away from the centerline. When the ball quits sliding the spin will get traction and cause curve and the spin will curve the ball back towards the center line and possibly across the centerline before reaching the object ball.
It might sound complicating but it’s easy to grasp once someone understands this. The point is that a harder shot will keep the cue ball sliding and eliminates the need to calculate for curve.
I already know everything you speak about in your videos but I still like to watch them anyway. You put a lot of time and energy into making these videos and I appreciate that. One thing I should mention is a beginner and intermediate player will have a much more difficult time mastering this for many reasons but the main reason is because those players have not mastered how to line up their bodies with each shot and this adds to how difficult this can be.
I love your vids I’m 52 years old I just got back into pool after 26 years. Is pretty good. But your videos are excellent!! Love them if I had this 26 years ago with all this info I might have went pro. Keep up the great work
This is why pool is such a great game! There is so much that goes into being a really good player. The average person that just knocks balls around doesn't have a clue about this stuff. And the person that has never played pool has even less of a clue - if that is possible.
The ONLY way to learn to learn to use english properly is to practice and practice and practice some more. But practice the right fundamentals. Also, this is another reason why you should have your own cue. Some cues have very little deflection, while others have a lot more. If you are using a low deflection cue and then you start using a cue with a lot more deflection - you are probably going to REALLY struggle at first.
Yes, I agree that being able to make balls using spin is one of the main reasons pocket billiards is such a magical and difficult game to sort of master.
James Davis This is true, I went from my dads predator shaft to a normal deflection i bought myself and i had to retrain the way i shot, tested my patience like you wouldn’t believe!
The way you explain the complex things is spot on and super easy to understand....love the videos keep em coming
If only you made this video a long time ago. I only found out about throw by watching and dissecting your videos. Once I compensated for throw, I was able to use spin and english like I couldn't believe. I also pocketed/potted more balls overall.
Hi Sharivari, Gasp ! to think of all the termanology and physics that you discussed in this lesson and then go to the table and apply them is daunting .Horseshoes are looking better all the time .." Hold the phone" not so quick pool players. Remember this is a game !
The GAME of pool. Anyone else been completely beweldered and overwhelmed with goofy rules and quirky exceptions when being shown a new card game or how to correct your steering properly when comming out of a slide? You have to just get dealt in or be on an open surface and experience a slide.. Ive found that a great way for me to actualize and incorperate more involved lessons is to bring them with me to the table. Hold the phone! I have the lesson on my phone i go to the table and go step by step in sync applying what is being described in the lesson with me hitting shots on the table !! The bottom line is if you want to get better you need to make the effort. This really works !. I hope it works for another player too.
Great video. Been playing couple months and you summarized it much better then other videos I watched by using the "aim point" and "contact point"
I noticed when I was first starting out I started messing around with English and after a very short time you instinctively know where to adjust. You can see it immediately. You can almost feel where it has to go. The biggest mistake I made was just learning to not be so drastic with right and left. Almost no one gives it more that a half tip or full tip.
Great video, as always!
I agree. I use mostly a half tip to a tip for most of my positional shots unless I have to go 2-3 rails to the other end of the table. Then full left or full right comes in very handy. Also, my preference is to only use full spin when I'm not far away from the object ball and the object ball is not far away from the pocket.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to so detailed videos with the cue ball in the corner of screen showing where you hit the cue ball. I watched a few on your videos for a week and then went and shot some pool and my game is much better!! I won three out of five games when it was usually one out of five games. Thank You again!!
Spent months to understand all that... you summarised all nicely in a short video! Good job!
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My name is Scott Turner, and I've been playing pool since the age of 6 or 7... with all the choices on videos to watch, I personally prefer your break down of the game. This video in particular... well done. For me, easy to understand. I may fall a little short ,mostly a lack of practice, but I am closer to advanced than beginner , you explain it very well for the way I see the game.
Keep it up. Thank you
This is one of the most comprehensive videos on this topic that I have seen on CZcams.
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Hey, you should make a video of a few of your matches. I'm sure people would be very interested in watching.
I will!
Good ideea
This helps me understand side spinning more. Thank you my good sir
Outstanding video as usual. Great job!
It may have been complicated information, but the way you taught it, it got it! Thanks again!
These videos are so high quality thanks SO much for your work!!
I played last night against a much more experienced player,your tips helped me keep almost even with him.He even remarked that my skill level was improving.Thanks for the help.✌️
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing.
@@Sharivari -you deserve to know the difference you are making in channel subscribers games.You put a lot of thought and effort into your channel.👍
Clear explanation and lots of reasons to practice often.
Great video, helps so much.
Could you actually do a follow up to this on the pool table showing how much you compensate your aim based on speed and more or less spin?
Love your channel.
Pretty much simple but useful. Thanks
well done. you covered it. Everything i wanted to know.
Very helpful video...Thanks
Outstanding video - the best I have seen on the subject! Graphics are superb - well done!
Thank you for another great lesson!
I've gotten into the bad habit of always using outside basically no matter the cut angle, even though the throw wouldn't make me miss the pocket.
This of course makes my positional game suffer from time to time, so I would just emphasise the importance of learning how to compensate your aim for the contact point and use whichever, or none, spin that gives you the best path to position.
Im glad i subbed. Its cool to see how many videos you make! I need as much pool advice as possible. I want to get really good someday, but have so much to learn. More importantly, i need to go practice alone on my spare time
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very helpful for me as a beginner
Im following....thanks a lot
So much more than a bar game. Truly great brain exercise
Nice video. Thanks!
Thank you for your informative video as always. You explain this much easier to understand than Dr.Dave. Can you make a video about BHE and FHE ?
This is not required because as he says in the end, it is eventually all about trial and error.
This was very good video! In theory is seems so complex. I have been playing in leagues for 15 years and i can say I have always been using this just "as feeling". What he says at the end were your body and mind will do all this for you is very true. I can "feel" it, when I need to start compensating only with the experience of playing.
So in other words just keep playing and you will eventually understand this. Maybe you wont even know your using this already! Just like what happened to me.
Apa 7 for reference
Pretty easy to understand. Now days I normally give alittle outside spin when I'm cutting.
Excellent!!
Um. What? I need to watch this like 20 more times for me to get it. But it will be worth it . Been looking for a video like this for a while
It's only now I realized how dumb I was in playing pool. lol
Aw damn...just when I though I knew how to play pool ha! Great video
You're right about your brain taking over... I make a lot of cut shots without going and looking at the shot line.
Thank you for this video. I know it will up my game. Like you said from practice you learn to adjust for these effects but thanks to you visual i will be able to recognize these effects faster and be able to manipulate the angel when i need to. I cant wait to get back to the table.
Hey Sharivari! Great videos and i love your style of teaching. Can i suggest that in future videos where you're explaining left or right english, you could position the cue and cueball from our perspective. As it is right now, when im watching the animated parts, i have to mirror the left/right english in my head for it to make sense because it is from the opposite direction. I hope this makes sense. Once again thank you for the content, it has helped my game immensely!
That was my exact thought. Awesome content though.
This is the only video I was looking for. It should be illegal to start practicing pool without watching it. I feel guilty for other players against me while they try to improve, figuring shit out, clueless till the end.
thank you
I use a different aiming method when using inside spin. I see pro players use it too such as Efren I just figured it out recently that I was also using it.
What is the method?
Yeah what method??
What is it?!?!!!
3 years later and we’re still waiting Mr. Deadpool
Very knowlegable
thx for this! it helps a lot!...;)
Very good lesson. Now I know I have played wrongly for a long time.
You know what's funny I learned this couple years ago and since then I've just been going down on the shot already aiming with English and my brain does the rest
Thanks
THANKS !
You're very welcome Steven!
Great video man, as always! Keep up the good work, most useful pool videos I've found!
If you use these principles, could you do a video on BHE (Back Hand English) and FHE (Front Hand English), determining how to use them depending on length of the shot, required position, etc.?
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the video of your dreams :)
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These vids are so good. always well done, thoroughly explained, nice grraphics, great live examples...I'm gonna throw out one small suggestion, not a criticism in any way at all, just a suggestion that might be helpful, especially for beginning players....in you computer graphics you show a shot describing the effects of english, throw etc...I noticed that the ones that show it from behind
the cue ball are best...a couple of them are shown from in front of the object ball and requires the viewer to reverse them in his mind in order to understand it from the 'behind the cue ball' perspective...it might be better to show everything from the 'behind the cue ball' perspective, since as a player that's going to be your perspective. Thanks for the fantastic tutorials.
You forgot to mention that also the cue's deflection amount has an effect to the aiming
Tnx
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Nice video. Thank you. It helps me understand why pool can be difficult, even for the experienced players...My first teacher was from the Philippines, and taught me a lot about sidespin, in connection with follow, or draw...TBH even after years of time, I didn't improve much. I currently have a billiard instructor {Charlene Krystle Suarez) who took me all the way back to the fundamentals, with no sidespin. She advertised that after studying with her, APA players are able to improve one skill level on average. Sadly, I want to run before I can walk, and fall down a lot. She is one of the highest ranked women in the USA on Fargo (which she wants to stay down so she can be eligible to enter the local tournaments that have Fargo limit caps). I am shooting in 2 different tournaments today. The highest I have recently achieved was 4th place😔😄😔😄😔 of which I have mixed emotions about. Maybe you will be explaining how emotions and attitude can affect your game, even when attempting to remain stoically technical. I love how you make the complex sound not so complex. Thank you, Sharivari.
Am a beginner. Like the cue ball, my head cannot absorb the infos. But this topic is very interesting to try. Maybe exaggerated geometry next time?
been playing for 7months and just started using spin...im starting to kind of get it, but this video made me feel so dumb lmao. good lesson but its tough for sure!
This was a truly great video. I am a long time subscriber to your videos. I notice some changes in this video. Much better video composition. Voice compression sounds a little weird. Background music is a little annoying. But your video composition has been elevated by a huge level. Congratulations. Keep up the good work
Hi John. Thanks for your message. Glad to have you as a long time subscriber! And thanks for your honest feedback. I am trying to work on the points you mentioned.
可以寫論文了，你是一個非常好的研究者。
Is it needed to change the aiming point when left or right English is applied to the cue ball?
Excellent vid, I would just add to all this the type of tip, felt, and size of pocket, as the size could just dictate that you could play with the aim angle and ignore to a degree the SIT/CiT, which would make it a lot easier for beginners when they are trying to just make a shot and not worry about positional play, all in all love your vids man keep it up, cause I know I learned from them, so thanks. Oh yeah and I forgot about the type of cue stick/chalk/humidity in the room and swerve lol.
Great and informative vidz.thanks man more vidz and tricks.request how to break soft and hard.what english we do.so d ball always in a center of d table.im waiting from philippines😊
Hi sharivari! Can you make a video about the effect of wax on balls?
so my question for you is what do you think about BHE and FHE for spin induced throw corrections? Dr. Dave goes over this topic about how to adjust your aim when using spin. your explanation was much simpler to understand but i am curious as to your opinion on using bhe and fhe to adjust.
I didn't even know about BHE and FHE when I learned adjusting for spin, it just came natural. If you want to make a concious decision on how you want to adjust for aim, there is no right or wrong. Whatever gives you the best results should be your choice. You can even combine both. I however am using pure FHE.
hi I always watch your video about pool, I also play pool and finding that your video is really helpful... I really wanted to own a predator cue but it is too expensive.. I wish that if you have an old predator cue, hoping that you may give me one pls.
Please help me! I don't know right word to ask my question so i will try to describe what i want to know. When we apply right or left english we only need to move cue tip right or left or we should move whole cue parallel to left or right? I can't find video about this. I'm so gladful if you can help me.
Do you have drills to practice this?
Thanks for saying that last part. I felt so overwhelmed I was thinking about giving up on pool altogether. I was hoping it could be something your brain would just get a feel for rather than having to consciously work through all of that.
I have one question though. Would you say not to practice English until you can hit straight shots and slight cuts almost without fail? It would seem to me that if you can't even do that, there's a flaw in your stroke or your eye isn't sufficiently trained and that should be resolved first.
You're welcome. Yes I would agree. You first have to be able to hit straight, make all types of shots without english and learn to control the cueball with just low and high. After you are able to do that you can start to play with english and then use it to your advantage once your able to do it. Because it can make the game a lot easier once you've mastered it.
It also help if you practice with a regular shaft.... And then play with a low deflection shaft
Totally disagree.
The gear shaped pool balls thing makes me wanna try a game using golf balls just to see what happens.
So if I have a 30 degree cut shot then I will have maximum CIT. To avoid complicating the shot I can just do a high ball or low ball with no English.
So then I have two options in this scenario: Either I adjust my aiming point to compensate for the CIT OR I can aim normally but increase the speed of the shot to reduce the CIT.
Is that correct?
Cómo se tiran los dobletes con efecto o sin efecto
in other words..stay away from using side spin as much as possible if you don't understand this.
Disagree. The more u play. The more u learn . Do it until u get it.
Do dirty balls make a difference in spin induced throw and/or cut induced throw?
Definitely. Also the opposite effect if wet or oily.
Neverminde me. This is just my notes for myself. I might confuse you guys.
Spin induce throw
Right English hard hit = ball to the right
Right English soft hit = ball to the left
Left English hard hit = ball to the left
Left English soft hit = ball to the right
Meaning soft = opposite side
Hard = same side.
Same with cut induced throw (max 30°)
Hard hit = less throw
Slow hit = more throw
Meaning if hitting slow the ball moves on the same side more.
If you don't want to change your contact point. You can add the two factors. CIT and SPIN INDUCED THROW.
Considering this is a slow hit.
So on inside cut,,,, i decide where on object ball i want to hit, and i align my pool cue in the direction,,,,,,i found it works for me and is reproducible,,,be carefull though cuz inside takes alot of speed of object ball,,, i want speed off cue ball though
Where do you get those practice white dots from
You can get them at every stationary store or Amazon. Normal paper reinforcement rings.
I doubt the direction of yellow ball when hit by white on left side.
It wouldn't movie towards left,, left spin will be there but as its hit on left side it will move slightly right. ...
All this I get, but what about swerve? I miss more sidespin shots due to that than anything else.
The swerve is more of a practice and know your table kinda thingy, but if you are very mechanical about how much tip of english combined(low + left etc.) you apply together with having a very consistent stroke speed and control, then you can mostly hit the ballpark. One thing I know is that hitting low on the ball will counteract deflection, while hitting high mostly causes no swerve, thereby leaving you to deal with the deflection caused by the english applied.
Would not deflection and cut+spin induced throw offset each other when using inside English on medium strong strokes? If you know your cue you should be pretty comfortable using inside English.
Yes, for any kind of spin there is a speed where everything offsets each other.
@@SharivariI know you don't like inside spin. But knowing the proper speed of your stroke, I am surprised why you still think it's a difficult shot and feel uncomfortable with it.
@@planetscore I don't feel uncomortable with inside spin. But I see too many of my students miss their shots all the time when using inside spin, when they could get the same position with outside.
@@Sharivariahh, sorry you say in your videos the shot becomes more difficult, but I assumed for you too. You show this from a perspective of a learner. I understand now. Thanks.
All I want to know is how can I pocket the eight ball on every break, never fail?
beautiful vid, but i've only one question ... i can't explain your accent XD where are u from ?
Cleveland
he's german
Pliss cc indonesia
I’ll be back.
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This guy sounds like Steve hawking
He's smarter than hawking.
And better looking.
At approx 1min 50 secs you say 'a harder hit means more deflection' whereas the rest of the pool world seem to say it means LESS deflection and a SLOWER SHOT means MORE deflection. Something wrong here!
The cue ball does not deflect more with slower speed. Where do you have that information from?
A harder hit will mean less swerve. So the cueball will hit further away from the aiming line. A softer hit will allow more swerve, so the cueball will end closer to the aiming line. I didn't talk about swerve in this lesson, because I didn't want to make it any more complicated. But that's the reason why I said the cueball "deflects" more on harder shots.
@@Sharivari I think it was one of Dr Dave's videos. Like you he said that a harder hit will mean less swerve because it has less time to take effect but says that the cueball will hit NEARER the aiming line, not further away as you have just stated.
@@ShipleyJack Well, no. Isn't it logical that if the cueball swerves back to the aiming line, that it will hit closer to the aiming line with softer shots, and further away with harder shots? I looked up the video and thats exactly what Dave said: "With a slower speed shot the cueball still deflects away from the line of the shot, but then it swerves back slightly." I think you misunderstood him there. Just rewatch the video again and you will see :)
@@Sharivari It depends how far away the object ball is. Once the soft shot has deflected the cueball MORE than a hard shot it may not have time to swerve back to the correct line. Hence the harder shot will be more accurate.
Pity we can't afford Predator shafts! They're supposed to eliminate this problem :)
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No one can tell me why i get no deflection. I steoke thru diamond to 💎 up and down the table and i see zero deflection and i get great spin of the rail. Wtf is going on
your mind is compensating and u are probably hitting hard
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Very confused on you stating that using inside english makes making a shot more difficult than using outside english. I agree that horizontal spin will always make shots more difficult to make than center ball (because of 1. deflection 2. spin induced throw 3. curve). But the idea that a fourth factor, CIT (cut induced throw), makes a shot easier or harder is not correct. Whether that CIT is adding or subtracting from your aim adjustment from the other three factors is irrelevant is determine the difficulty of shot. There is also a thing called 'over correction' which is just as much of a factor as 'under correction'.
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My head is spinning ;-;;;
I know, tough topic. But believe me, in real life it isn't that tough. I just tried to explain a thing that usually is done very intuitive and with a lot of feeling very technical.
You didn’t say “what here” ! 1:29
Am a beginner 😣😣
You should enjoy being a beginner. In the beginning you usally learn the most and improve the fastest :) How long are you already playing the game?
I was your,im trying learn pool,it is a wasted time