The owner/ceo is awesome too. I was gonna return my set due to the mic not working well with the Xbox and he messaged me multiple times (even gave me his personal cell) to help me get better function from it and even said he will send me a new longer mic that now comes standard with the headset. Absolutely amazing customer service (right from the top guy of the company). Something I want to say to anyone who buys them, give them a few days for your ears and mind to adjust to what makes them brilliant. I came from headsets that blasted loud volume through my ears so when I first tried these, I was missing the volume knob, I really wanted to crank them up cause I felt like I was missing something. But as a few days went on I started noticing things I never heard before, stuff that I'm assuming got jumbled in the other sets loudness. This headset pinpoints variety sounds. In music it separates the instruments better than I've ever experienced. In video games you can hear multi-layered sounds happening in a long drawn out sound stage. Once you get used to them, it's actually hard to go back to other head sets. Especially when it comes to spacial audio and music. I started off thinking ehhh are these really worth the price, after a week or so, I highly recommend them. As of right now I still say the mic is below avg at best (something that really could of taken them over the top) but hopefully the longer mic helps a bit better (on xbox). Overall it's just something you have to experience.
How's the mic quality? I've been using my trusty pair of HyperX Cloud 2 but they're showing their age now so I'm waiting for my imported pair of VZR to arrive from States. Cloud 2 got one of the best mics I've ever had on a headset
The PC38x was my first headphone/headset at the time from an “audiophile brand.” I had previously owned/used extensively headsets from hyperx, Astro, razer, and Corsair. I tried the Corsair Virtuoso XTs, but I wasn’t able to appreciate an improvement in sound quality that would warrant the nearly $300 price tag and they were uncomfortable (and the features weren’t as important). My $100 Hyper X Clould Alphas sounded just as good to me and were infinitely more comfortable. The problem for me was, I wanted a headset with $300+ sound quality!! The PC38x was my first open back headset that started me down the rabbit hole of researching and testing out audiophile headphones. The PC38x are a revelation for people, like myself, that are used to gamery branded headsets. The expanded soundstage I think is what “wows” novices, but they do not hold up as well when compared to their more expensive sennsheiser counterparts. I have since upgraded to sennsheiser HD560s (which actually wound up being cheaper on sale) and the improved detail, soundstage, and imaging is immediately apparent. However, the highs are very shouty and fatiguing and require some EQ. I’ve been trying to upgrade from these, but haven’t found anything I have felt was worth the price. From your description - I think these VZR models ones are what I am looking for. I need something with a mic for when I play mp games with friends, but I mostly play single player games. I want that bass and immersion of the closed back and toned downed highs. Also, for that kind of money, I want something that is going to last and is “built like a tank” as you said. But yea - the PC38x have their place, but are definitely not “end game,” I am hoping the VZR models ones are! Great video Techne, thank you!
100% Agree the pc38's have their place, but not worth the trend I guess would be a way to put it. Now after reading your comment, I would 100% recommend these for your situation, just like mine, I play a bunch of single player story games, and a a few FPS, but when I play a story game I want the best, I want to feel like im in the game, and these VZR's have been my go to for story games lately. Heck anything that I want an immersive sound I slap these on.
@@TheTechne would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also does the vzr model ones bass sound like a movie theater sub woofer bass? If so i am even more interested in these bad boys plus the comfort and build all in one.
As a gamer and music lover, I love my X58 Jubilees headphone🎧 , Tin HiFi T3, HS70SE’s🎧, KZ12’s and a few other IEMs and recently my purchase of the infamous Techne “Penrose X” which I feel from my sound experience, is very similar but different to my X58 Jubilees. They both offer great gaming / open world experiences ….. but also a slightly different experience which is weird to say …. But it’s real and I love my collection and feel lucky 🍀 to have the opportunity to try soo many. Sound is subjective, but for all of us, it’s an important part of gaming / music listening as it does add a sense of environment and creates a feel of enjoyment and pleasure wh8ch we all love.
Just started watching your videos on tech and I think what I love most is your energy and ironically talking about tech you sound a lot like Michael J Fox. You have a sub, great video and closer in making my purchase
So I now have the VZR and the Penrose, and you're right! This is really hard. They both have their own unique signature that makes them both amazing. On one end, the Penrose is just a straight up sound blaster, almost too much, but it's a crisp sound that just makes things shine. It's also uncomfortable but can be modded, and can have build issues, and connection issues. Mine is currently holding up, so I guess I'm fine. On the VZR side, definitely a warmer sound. My initial reaction was it may be too warm, and would drown out important things. Then I played some 2042, and holy crap. Then I jumped into Destiny 2, and just strolled through the Throne World, to soak up the atmosphere, and holy crap. It's different, it doesn't need to blast you with it, it just surrounds you with it. I do feel the ZVR has a wider sound stage, than the Penrose, though the Penrose may be sharper on certain tones, but not by much. The worrying extra warmth of the VZR didn't muddy a thing, I still felt like I was in a war I could pin point directions from, and hear the smallest ambient noise of the Throne World, and really appreciate that. They both have their use cases, but I see myself using the VZR more, on my PS5, unless I need the Bluetooth feature for Discord. Wild curiosity: what would they be like if you ran them through the Arctis Pro GameDac or the Nova Pro GameDac (if possible) or whatever else is compatible with the PS5? Would that be possible and how would that shift things up?
@@michaelklein3244 Oh I've known for a bit and really looking forward to using my VZR for everything. I have it coupled with a Schiit Hel 2e and it sounds awesome, so I'm really excited to finally get Discord on my PS5 and just main that setup.
I hate the term “audiophile” but I definitely fall into that category, with my daily drivers being a mix of Sennheiser HD600, 560S, or the Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro. These are running through an Apogee Symphony and are some of the best listening experiences anyone can have in the sub $1000 range. And for my money, the VZR Model One, coupled with a Schiit Hel 2, is the best gaming headset and one of the best casual listening experiences you can get. I love my Master & Dynamic MG20 if I need a wireless option, but for everything else it’s the VZR every time.
@@MrTs7520 I still own and love my VZR Model Ones, but I’ve since moved on to the Audeze Maxwell. The VZR is great for spatial audio and for single player experiences, but it has almost too much low end to be used in competitive gaming. While you could use Sonar or another EQ app to improve the tuning for FPS, the Maxwells are probably the best wireless set I’ve ever tested and have become my daily driver for everything from FPS to single player experiences. I even use them often for casual listening, which is saying a lot. Good, clean bass, fantastic mids and treble. Just a really amazing set of planars; at $300 it’s a steal. For solo titles, I run the immersive EQ preset, and there are custom presets which you can tune in the app specifically for footsteps and FPS, and those EQs remain in the headset itself and can be turned on via one of the dials on the ear cups - so you’re not stuck using the app all the time. My current ranking for high-end headsets would be: 1. Audeze Maxwell 2. VZR Model One 3. Master & Dynamic MG20 (the caveat being there are some QC issues with the MD, so YMMV; I went through three sets of these, but when they work they sound fantastic) 4. Arctis Nova Pro Wireless 5. Sennheiser PC38X The Epos H6pro are also fantastic, although I prefer the open back variant. And the Beyerdynamics TYGR 300s if you prefer Beyer’s tuning. Hope that helps. Good luck!
Found ya a few days ago and just cant stop watching your headset reviews after my one thing I had to myself broke my TB stealth 700 gen2s. I loved these things so much. This was alot of money for me and last year when I bought them it was a treat. It was a hell of a year and idk if gaming manufacturers understand stuff like this when they make these things cheapily. Gaming is my getaway from 70hour work weeks and a stressful life. Anyways, thanks for making these great reviews and after finding out theres so many good ones I hope I can find a good one that will last longer then 15 months that won't break the bank
You should look into the HyperX Cloud series of headsets if you want a super comfortable headset with great build quality, sound, plus an excellent price! *You can get wired or wireless, and they def beat TB in my opinion! (There's plenty of other options too, but those immediately come to mind)
I have these and they are pretty good. Spacious for a closed back with solid bass. I would say that my Focal and Hifiman headphones are noticeably cleaner/faster sounding (better dynamics) so I can't call them giant killers but they are good for the price range (and probably better build quality than the other two). I think they are better for gaming than for music.
I’m so glad you’re talking more about this headset, I pinged you a couple weeks ago on Twitter about this thing and you thoroughly convinced me on buying this
Hi. Edit: I actually was first! Also - I am going to buy these when they are on sale. I’ve seen some owners were able to get them for $279. 2nd edit: I’m actually going to watch this video now and enjoy it. Thank you, Techne!
Finally I got the vzr model one , I had Epos h6 pro and auduze Penrose x, I am using these in Xbox series x. What I want to say is : model one is excellent for music and movie , however when I compared it with h6 pro, model one do not give any benefit in hearing footsteps , I can hear more footsteps in PUBG when using h6 pro and Penrose , if listening to music and watching movie , model one is the best . Another issue is that the mic in model one is too short for Xbox party, teammate can barely hear you , I contacted them and they offered me a longer mic which improve a lot .
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I liked your comparison video. I wanted to state that up front because I'm going to nitpick something a lot of tech reviewers do. I'm sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine. When you say "40mm Tri-Force drivers", what are you even saying? Even if you understand why they call it that, It doesn't mean anything to me as the viewer. So you're really just reading Razer's marketing copy. I'm sure they would love it if I was deciding between two headsets and I said "gee I dunno but this one has TRI-FORCE DRIVERS!".
LETS GO!! And keep going and keep going 🤣. When watching your first review I was curious how they compared to the Astros based on your sound description. Both have that warmer core sound. Audeze Penrose W
$60 Hyperx Cloud is by far more comfortable. It is by far more structurally sound as well. I didn't even plug in the pc38x, because it wasn't comfortable at all compared to HX, and it took me 3 seconds to decide I didn't like it. With a sound card, the Hyperx will deafen you, I play most games at 20% volume because it is so damn loud.
hi techne another great video your the best I ordered these off Amazon for my ps5 currently using the barracuda pro do you think I made a mistake do these sound better then the barracuda pro I play a lot of sports games are these worth going wired what do think I should keep your the best
I watched like 10 of his nova pro videos and he finally makes a video answering all my questions. Oh well. I still don’t like the lack of features and that it has no Bluetooth. 350 is fine but glad I got steel series nova. Gonna get the wired version later. I got the penrose x , gx and mobius. Those still win so I agree audeze is doing something right
You might have covered this in a video already, but what are your top 3 recommends for wireless. I have a game one and it's open back which sounds good, but I would like wireless. They don't seem to make too many open back wireless. Your videos are great. Keep it up!
I LOVED the sound using the Penrose with the custom cushions you suggested BUT the constant clipping and disconnects made me NUTS! Even after the suggested resolutions it was a no go. I just recieved the Model One yesterday and the sound and build quality have made me a fan. Thank you for you review.
Great vid!! I got the audeze Penrose but am getting constant popping in my ears even after turning off sidetone so I'll be returning em... Might have to get these instead
If for the same price, which do you find the better value for $350? The B&O Portal for PC or the VZR Model for gaming? Which do you recommend? Same cost, both seem great, but only can go one way. Let me know your opinion please.
I've been using the Razer Black Shark V2 Pro wireless on my gaming pc since they launched in 2020 ( Saying they are 10x those really entices me I like the base however also would like noise canceling and wireless.). I have high-functioning autism and work and collect headphones. Looking at a new pair for my gaming rig. I have 2 pairs of Sony WF-1000xm4s, I have Sony WH-1000 XM5s, bose qc 35 ii, beats fit pro, galaxy buds 2 pro, google pixel buds. I have a budget of 500 USD and looking to get the best sounding gaming headphones preferable with ANC noise canceling for my sensory issues, which is why I'm looking at the Arctis Nova Pro wireless however Im also looking at the VZR model ones, Audeze Mobius etc. Id be willing to spend up to 800 to get the best Audiophile gaming headphones if they are wired I would want 100 m drivers and released this year so they last a long time.
The Audeze are better to many other features and i saw a review saying they are not that loud when plugged in to a xbox controller these things have been out for a year and hardly any reviews ijs
I'm having a hard time choosing between the VZR Model One and the EPOS H6Pro. I'm also considering an open-back H6Pro so I don't get in trouble from not hearing my wife when she's calling me.
I use Sonar with my PS5 by taking the output of my controller and inputting it in to the rear of DAC and it sounds a lot better than running it from USB. The Sonar spatial settings when done just enough really makes all my IEMs and closed back headphones sound almost open. It is very weird. Not to mention the imaging is also incredible. It is a lot wires that way but I don’t care cause I am sitting at the desk.
@@ImSoIceCold On the back of the DAC there is a 3.5mm output jack that you can enable high output gain. Just plug you headphones into that when you have pc on and Sonar enabled.
I took delivery of The VZR model one + astro mixamp pro tr today. I paired it with the dts headphone x and It sounds amazing. The sound virtualization is perfect, every sound comes at you from the right direction and distance,you even hear the sound of bullets whizzing past your head and the virtualization is so perfect that you can trace it to the shooter. Thanks for taking your time to explain all these things in your videos.
Hi techne.i gave you a heads up about these..CAN You please try and find out why or when these will be available in the UK.I have the penrose,h6pro closed, and recently bought the Phillips shp 9500.which is fantastic,all because I can't get shipping to the .uk.Why oh Why.???.many thanks
I play apex a lot and I play other games like The Witcher 3 and Ghosts of Tsushima and Dark Souls etc. Fonal fantasy and stuff. Wonder if I'd like the EPOS 6pro or the VZR. I don't care about cost really.
7:43 I'm sorry but this is not correct at all. I'm an audio engineer by profession. Spatial positioning is a very proper term, and it's something that can both be enhanced by the headset you use as well as by the audio engineers making the actual mix. It can very much give a competitive advantage, because you can more precisely pinpoint where gunshots, footsteps and vehicles are coming from, assuming it was done correctly on both ends.
agreed, Techne needs to stick to reviewing how comfortable a headset is because he doesn't have a clue about audio. To add, "sound is a personal preference" is only justification to say something just as uneducated as "I like blue, it's the best color". I also own the VZR headset he's reviewing here. During the nova pro discussion he's talking about out of the box you get those great sounds with VZR, "you dont need any software". He obviously didn't turn off his spatial software and play a game with these. You are correct, the mix matters, a lot. This is also why he doesn't understand why the PC38X is so good. Yes they sound different from the VZR, but if all we are comparing is the sound, the fidelity/clarity, the frequency range and driver matching gives them far more usefulness while gaming than this beloved bass and the cozy thing he rants about.
This vs. the penrose with a eq, more bass and more highs. I love my penrose, they get so loud and i tested them with other dynamic driver headsets and the penrose blows them out the water. So idk if i can justify paying 350$ for these when i got my penrose for 240$ and the planar magnetic drivers sound so good and different compared to dynamic drivers
ey tech, do the vzr only sound as good as you are proclaiming when run through a dac/amp, or do they sound just as good connected to the xbox controller? I feel like that is the deciding factor for me between the VZR and nova pro wired. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
How would you compare these to the Beyerdynamic 700/900 Pro X? Right now I’m using the 900 pro x to a XLR mini and Rode pod mic, but I’m thinking about returning it for the VZR Model One and a Schiit Hel2e mix amp. I don’t stream or make videos, I’m mainly aiming for the best sound with reasonable mic audio. What would you suggest? Thanks!
I wanted to buy some cushions for my steel series pro headset, do u know if the wicked cusions WC Freeze are good, or should i just get the normal ones.
I’m looking for a headset that can connect to all my consoles plus big bonus if it can connect to my phone for music and has amazing/ mind blowing sound with super accurate tracking like 3d audio and it would be a bonus if wireless and still sounds great but if it isn’t that’s fine if the quality is so much better. I’ve been watching your videos and I’m stuck between these or the steel series nova pro. What would you recommend sir?
Hey Techne, Can you add any input on what you think the best amp/dac is for the VZR. I have the VZR, which I love but id like to pair it with a amp/dac. I have the sound blaster G3 now.
@TheTechne if you had to choose between the VZR, Steelseries ones or Audeze for straight up plugging into my controller or just using it on console which one would you choose? And idk if this will help but warzone is my primary game and I dabble into some pubg and pvp games as well or if there is another headset u recommend or making a video on console also let me know!
I highly recommend the audeze. I tested them with other regular gaming headsets that sound good aswell but the audeze drivers are just on another level tbh. Also if you have a pc I recommend getting an eq on it and they will sound even better with more bass
@@DanV.Teachings this doesn't make sense to me. How would a dinky winky series x controller be able to do what a Amp deck. But can you even use Amp decks with this headset? I'm so stinkin' confused. I had to return my VZR ONE Because I couldn't listen to both music AND xbox at the same time. I feel I should have kept the Model One now, but how could I use it on my xbox s/x 🤔 without just plugging it into a controller.
I'm confused, mind my question. But How would a dinky winky series x controller be able to do well with the VZR? But can you even use Amp decks with this headset & series X? I'm so stinkin' confused. I had to return my VZR ONE Because I couldn't listen to both music AND xbox at the same time. (Regrets?) I feel I should have kept the VZR Model One now, but how could I use it on my xbox s/x 🤔 without just plugging it into a controller. And if I do buy a headset do I buy wired with a muxamp package?
I've heard these have custom built drivers. After experiencing them in person, do you personally believe they've actuality custom built their own drivers??
I have both and it just depends on what you want them for. The PenroseX get really loud, they are brighter with higher highs and not as much bass as the VZR. My biggest issue with the PenroseX is I feel like everything is so loud it gets jumbled together (especially for competitive gaming). I don't feel like they pinpoint as well. The first day I got the VZR, I was like, ehhh $350 and I can't turn the volume up, they sounded so faint and diluted because I was comparing them to the PenroseX. After a week, I started noticing so much more sound space, more stuff going on in the environment of games. Longer draw distances (sound stage). Where it pin points multiple layered sounds uniquely. If you are fan of music, they separate the instruments like no other headset I've ever tried. It's something that I've never experienced and it's truly amazing. It's hard to choose 1 over the other because it's all about what you want out of them. But if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the VZR. Unless you really want the Wireless/Bluetooth feature on the PenroseX.
Penrose imo you can eq more bass if you want I might try these since I have the Penrose but I also have the x2hr fidelio and those sound amazing paired with the v moda boom mic
Techne I love your channel I love you in depth reviews. But my bank account and my wife might differ. I love headsets i have an art work of my phones hanging on the wall. Want you to know if there is a set I need I tube Into you. Thanks for for nets passion peace and blessings to u and the fam
Your Just Comparing To PC, What A About LISTENING When Your Playing XBOX, GAMES, In 4K, 120 Hrz. On Your 8K, TV, Or LISTENING To MUSIC, Or 3D, & 4K MOVIES, From Your 8K, Recivers??? The VZR ONE, Is All About Bring That Surround Sound, & Nothing Brings Out The DTS X, Or DOLBY ATMOS, When You Want That 11.2 Surround Sound, At Midnight, But You Dont Want Police Knocking On Your Door.... For Me Its About Having No Restrictions When It Comes To Enjoying MY THUNDER DOME IMAX 3D, 4K - 8K MAN CAVE... But Hey Your At Least Pumped About Explaining Your Product, On Your Channel, Fire It up Up UP... 😆 🤣 😂
The owner/ceo is awesome too. I was gonna return my set due to the mic not working well with the Xbox and he messaged me multiple times (even gave me his personal cell) to help me get better function from it and even said he will send me a new longer mic that now comes standard with the headset.
Absolutely amazing customer service (right from the top guy of the company).
Something I want to say to anyone who buys them, give them a few days for your ears and mind to adjust to what makes them brilliant. I came from headsets that blasted loud volume through my ears so when I first tried these, I was missing the volume knob, I really wanted to crank them up cause I felt like I was missing something. But as a few days went on I started noticing things I never heard before, stuff that I'm assuming got jumbled in the other sets loudness. This headset pinpoints variety sounds. In music it separates the instruments better than I've ever experienced. In video games you can hear multi-layered sounds happening in a long drawn out sound stage.
Once you get used to them, it's actually hard to go back to other head sets. Especially when it comes to spacial audio and music.
I started off thinking ehhh are these really worth the price, after a week or so, I highly recommend them.
As of right now I still say the mic is below avg at best (something that really could of taken them over the top) but hopefully the longer mic helps a bit better (on xbox).
Overall it's just something you have to experience.
sounds like a great company
How's the mic quality? I've been using my trusty pair of HyperX Cloud 2 but they're showing their age now so I'm waiting for my imported pair of VZR to arrive from States. Cloud 2 got one of the best mics I've ever had on a headset
The PC38x was my first headphone/headset at the time from an “audiophile brand.” I had previously owned/used extensively headsets from hyperx, Astro, razer, and Corsair. I tried the Corsair Virtuoso XTs, but I wasn’t able to appreciate an improvement in sound quality that would warrant the nearly $300 price tag and they were uncomfortable (and the features weren’t as important). My $100 Hyper X Clould Alphas sounded just as good to me and were infinitely more comfortable. The problem for me was, I wanted a headset with $300+ sound quality!! The PC38x was my first open back headset that started me down the rabbit hole of researching and testing out audiophile headphones. The PC38x are a revelation for people, like myself, that are used to gamery branded headsets. The expanded soundstage I think is what “wows” novices, but they do not hold up as well when compared to their more expensive sennsheiser counterparts. I have since upgraded to sennsheiser HD560s (which actually wound up being cheaper on sale) and the improved detail, soundstage, and imaging is immediately apparent. However, the highs are very shouty and fatiguing and require some EQ. I’ve been trying to upgrade from these, but haven’t found anything I have felt was worth the price. From your description - I think these VZR models ones are what I am looking for. I need something with a mic for when I play mp games with friends, but I mostly play single player games. I want that bass and immersion of the closed back and toned downed highs. Also, for that kind of money, I want something that is going to last and is “built like a tank” as you said. But yea - the PC38x have their place, but are definitely not “end game,” I am hoping the VZR models ones are! Great video Techne, thank you!
100% Agree the pc38's have their place, but not worth the trend I guess would be a way to put it. Now after reading your comment, I would 100% recommend these for your situation, just like mine, I play a bunch of single player story games, and a a few FPS, but when I play a story game I want the best, I want to feel like im in the game, and these VZR's have been my go to for story games lately. Heck anything that I want an immersive sound I slap these on.
@@TheTechne would you say these vzr model ones are good with any type of games because the only games I play are like grand theft auto 5, mlb the show 22 and forza horizon 5. If so then I’m going to pick up a pair. also does the vzr model ones bass sound like a movie theater sub woofer bass? If so i am even more interested in these bad boys plus the comfort and build all in one.
As a gamer and music lover, I love my X58 Jubilees headphone🎧 , Tin HiFi T3, HS70SE’s🎧, KZ12’s and a few other IEMs and recently my purchase of the infamous Techne “Penrose X” which I feel from my sound experience, is very similar but different to my X58 Jubilees. They both offer great gaming / open world experiences ….. but also a slightly different experience which is weird to say …. But it’s real and I love my collection and feel lucky 🍀 to have the opportunity to try soo many. Sound is subjective, but for all of us, it’s an important part of gaming / music listening as it does add a sense of environment and creates a feel of enjoyment and pleasure wh8ch we all love.
Just started watching your videos on tech and I think what I love most is your energy and ironically talking about tech you sound a lot like Michael J Fox. You have a sub, great video and closer in making my purchase
So I now have the VZR and the Penrose, and you're right! This is really hard. They both have their own unique signature that makes them both amazing. On one end, the Penrose is just a straight up sound blaster, almost too much, but it's a crisp sound that just makes things shine. It's also uncomfortable but can be modded, and can have build issues, and connection issues. Mine is currently holding up, so I guess I'm fine. On the VZR side, definitely a warmer sound. My initial reaction was it may be too warm, and would drown out important things. Then I played some 2042, and holy crap. Then I jumped into Destiny 2, and just strolled through the Throne World, to soak up the atmosphere, and holy crap. It's different, it doesn't need to blast you with it, it just surrounds you with it. I do feel the ZVR has a wider sound stage, than the Penrose, though the Penrose may be sharper on certain tones, but not by much. The worrying extra warmth of the VZR didn't muddy a thing, I still felt like I was in a war I could pin point directions from, and hear the smallest ambient noise of the Throne World, and really appreciate that. They both have their use cases, but I see myself using the VZR more, on my PS5, unless I need the Bluetooth feature for Discord. Wild curiosity: what would they be like if you ran them through the Arctis Pro GameDac or the Nova Pro GameDac (if possible) or whatever else is compatible with the PS5? Would that be possible and how would that shift things up?
Hey did you hear discord us coming to playstation soon?
@@michaelklein3244 Oh I've known for a bit and really looking forward to using my VZR for everything. I have it coupled with a Schiit Hel 2e and it sounds awesome, so I'm really excited to finally get Discord on my PS5 and just main that setup.
I hate the term “audiophile” but I definitely fall into that category, with my daily drivers being a mix of Sennheiser HD600, 560S, or the Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro. These are running through an Apogee Symphony and are some of the best listening experiences anyone can have in the sub $1000 range. And for my money, the VZR Model One, coupled with a Schiit Hel 2, is the best gaming headset and one of the best casual listening experiences you can get. I love my Master & Dynamic MG20 if I need a wireless option, but for everything else it’s the VZR every time.
I’m a big bf first person gamer do you feel these will do well with footsteps? I’m using a 100 pair now but want to upgrade
@@MrTs7520 I still own and love my VZR Model Ones, but I’ve since moved on to the Audeze Maxwell. The VZR is great for spatial audio and for single player experiences, but it has almost too much low end to be used in competitive gaming. While you could use Sonar or another EQ app to improve the tuning for FPS, the Maxwells are probably the best wireless set I’ve ever tested and have become my daily driver for everything from FPS to single player experiences. I even use them often for casual listening, which is saying a lot. Good, clean bass, fantastic mids and treble. Just a really amazing set of planars; at $300 it’s a steal.
For solo titles, I run the immersive EQ preset, and there are custom presets which you can tune in the app specifically for footsteps and FPS, and those EQs remain in the headset itself and can be turned on via one of the dials on the ear cups - so you’re not stuck using the app all the time.
My current ranking for high-end headsets would be:
1. Audeze Maxwell
2. VZR Model One
3. Master & Dynamic MG20 (the caveat being there are some QC issues with the MD, so YMMV; I went through three sets of these, but when they work they sound fantastic)
4. Arctis Nova Pro Wireless
5. Sennheiser PC38X
The Epos H6pro are also fantastic, although I prefer the open back variant. And the Beyerdynamics TYGR 300s if you prefer Beyer’s tuning.
Hope that helps. Good luck!
@@Silverjerk this is very helpful I think I’ll go with maxwells just need to get them in stock and 300 to get them love wireless also
Found ya a few days ago and just cant stop watching your headset reviews after my one thing I had to myself broke my TB stealth 700 gen2s. I loved these things so much. This was alot of money for me and last year when I bought them it was a treat. It was a hell of a year and idk if gaming manufacturers understand stuff like this when they make these things cheapily. Gaming is my getaway from 70hour work weeks and a stressful life. Anyways, thanks for making these great reviews and after finding out theres so many good ones I hope I can find a good one that will last longer then 15 months that won't break the bank
thank you so much for the support!!
You should look into the HyperX Cloud series of headsets if you want a super comfortable headset with great build quality, sound, plus an excellent price! *You can get wired or wireless, and they def beat TB in my opinion! (There's plenty of other options too, but those immediately come to mind)
Excited about this one! You've had me hype about this since Saturday! (Really hoping you compare them to the Penrose)
I have these and they are pretty good. Spacious for a closed back with solid bass. I would say that my Focal and Hifiman headphones are noticeably cleaner/faster sounding (better dynamics) so I can't call them giant killers but they are good for the price range (and probably better build quality than the other two). I think they are better for gaming than for music.
Just got the vcr a couple of weeks ago and finally I have my fps headset. It’s truly amazing.
Never seen you so passionate about one headset, good job man
I’m so glad you’re talking more about this headset, I pinged you a couple weeks ago on Twitter about this thing and you thoroughly convinced me on buying this
One of best channels on CZcams I have nova pro wireless but still watch all his videos
thank you so much man
@@TheTechne no honestly you love headsets I do u have so much passion for it
Thanks Techne you have Convinced me to get the VZR ones. Always looking forward to your reviews man
Hi. Edit: I actually was first! Also - I am going to buy these when they are on sale. I’ve seen some owners were able to get them for $279. 2nd edit: I’m actually going to watch this video now and enjoy it. Thank you, Techne!
Finally I got the vzr model one , I had Epos h6 pro and auduze Penrose x, I am using these in Xbox series x. What I want to say is : model one is excellent for music and movie , however when I compared it with h6 pro, model one do not give any benefit in hearing footsteps , I can hear more footsteps in PUBG when using h6 pro and Penrose , if listening to music and watching movie , model one is the best . Another issue is that the mic in model one is too short for Xbox party, teammate can barely hear you , I contacted them and they offered me a longer mic which improve a lot .
going from the black shark pros to the vzrs and after hearing what you said i’m so stinking excited!
WHAT.. this was the funniest “visual” video for what I thought was a video for “sound”
Not available for Canada, they really need to up their shipping coverage!
Great video man! You should review the beyerdynamic MMX 300 2nd gen sometime. They're old but such a hidden gem. Its hard to put those down.
Totally agree with Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (2nd gen), i look forward to VZR though
The Comparison to Audeze Penrose starts at 28:45 (But you'll really be missing out big time if you skip to it & don't watch the whole thing!)
I know you might not read this but, I am sure you will love the gamesense clutch keyboard. its 65%, it comes with pbt pudding keycaps, prelubed gateron yellows, enough room to mod it if you are a custom keyboard guy, really good stabs for prebuilt but durock v2 stabs might be a bit better, hotswap, volume knob, bright rgb for around $100.
Love my new Nova Pro wired I got on my birthday thanks for the reviews it helped me a lot!
These VZRs are absolutely amazing
I liked your comparison video. I wanted to state that up front because I'm going to nitpick something a lot of tech reviewers do. I'm sorry, it's just a pet peeve of mine. When you say "40mm Tri-Force drivers", what are you even saying? Even if you understand why they call it that, It doesn't mean anything to me as the viewer. So you're really just reading Razer's marketing copy. I'm sure they would love it if I was deciding between two headsets and I said "gee I dunno but this one has TRI-FORCE DRIVERS!".
LETS GO!! And keep going and keep going 🤣. When watching your first review I was curious how they compared to the Astros based on your sound description. Both have that warmer core sound. Audeze Penrose W
Where is the Penrose comparison?
@@jcap8391 29:11 starts the conversation about Penrose.
The pc38x has fantastic sound and the comfort quality is 10/10.
$60 Hyperx Cloud is by far more comfortable. It is by far more structurally sound as well. I didn't even plug in the pc38x, because it wasn't comfortable at all compared to HX, and it took me 3 seconds to decide I didn't like it. With a sound card, the Hyperx will deafen you, I play most games at 20% volume because it is so damn loud.
The headset seems pretty cool. Just don't like the mic quality vs my Corsairs.
Corsair has done magic with their current mics.
I returned my XT model on day one, that thing doesn't thing right at all, no matter the EQ tweaking you can do. Microphone is amazing however.
@@nihilisticpoet yeah I didn't like the XT. I've been using the HS80/65 as recommended by Techne.
You nailed it man. I’m In love with my Penrose, but I’m definitely going to get these. Thank you for all the great info.
Same!
hi techne another great video your the best I ordered these off Amazon for my ps5 currently using the barracuda pro do you think I made a mistake do these sound better then the barracuda pro I play a lot of sports games are these worth going wired what do think I should keep your the best
I watched like 10 of his nova pro videos and he finally makes a video answering all my questions. Oh well. I still don’t like the lack of features and that it has no Bluetooth. 350 is fine but glad I got steel series nova. Gonna get the wired version later. I got the penrose x
, gx and mobius. Those still win so I agree audeze is doing something right
You might have covered this in a video already, but what are your top 3 recommends for wireless. I have a game one and it's open back which sounds good, but I would like wireless. They don't seem to make too many open back wireless. Your videos are great. Keep it up!
I LOVED the sound using the Penrose with the custom cushions you suggested BUT the constant clipping and disconnects made me NUTS! Even after the suggested resolutions it was a no go. I just recieved the Model One yesterday and the sound and build quality have made me a fan. Thank you for you review.
Great vid!! I got the audeze Penrose but am getting constant popping in my ears even after turning off sidetone so I'll be returning em... Might have to get these instead
If for the same price, which do you find the better value for $350? The B&O Portal for PC or the VZR Model for gaming? Which do you recommend? Same cost, both seem great, but only can go one way. Let me know your opinion please.
I've been using the Razer Black Shark V2 Pro wireless on my gaming pc since they launched in 2020 ( Saying they are 10x those really entices me I like the base however also would like noise canceling and wireless.). I have high-functioning autism and work and collect headphones. Looking at a new pair for my gaming rig. I have 2 pairs of Sony WF-1000xm4s, I have Sony WH-1000 XM5s, bose qc 35 ii, beats fit pro, galaxy buds 2 pro, google pixel buds. I have a budget of 500 USD and looking to get the best sounding gaming headphones preferable with ANC noise canceling for my sensory issues, which is why I'm looking at the Arctis Nova Pro wireless however Im also looking at the VZR model ones, Audeze Mobius etc. Id be willing to spend up to 800 to get the best Audiophile gaming headphones if they are wired I would want 100 m drivers and released this year so they last a long time.
The Audeze are better to many other features and i saw a review saying they are not that loud when plugged in to a xbox controller these things have been out for a year and hardly any reviews ijs
I'm having a hard time choosing between the VZR Model One and the EPOS H6Pro. I'm also considering an open-back H6Pro so I don't get in trouble from not hearing my wife when she's calling me.
I use Sonar with my PS5 by taking the output of my controller and inputting it in to the rear of DAC and it sounds a lot better than running it from USB. The Sonar spatial settings when done just enough really makes all my IEMs and closed back headphones sound almost open. It is very weird. Not to mention the imaging is also incredible. It is a lot wires that way but I don’t care cause I am sitting at the desk.
Explain how this works
@@ImSoIceCold On the back of the DAC there is a 3.5mm output jack that you can enable high output gain. Just plug you headphones into that when you have pc on and Sonar enabled.
Sonar only for PC, right?
@@TheChillee yes but if you use the rear input on DAC with PC on it uses Sonar. Thats what I output my PS5,Switch and Ipad too.
This video is why Techne is my favourite CZcamsr. He just gets it. He’s always on point, and not afraid to speak his truth.
I took delivery of The VZR model one + astro mixamp pro tr today. I paired it with the dts headphone x and It sounds amazing. The sound virtualization is perfect, every sound comes at you from the right direction and distance,you even hear the sound of bullets whizzing past your head and the virtualization is so perfect that you can trace it to the shooter. Thanks for taking your time to explain all these things in your videos.
I got the steelseries arctis nova pro X wired, the sound is amazing to me. 😧 and that bass jumped on me and scared me , wasn’t expecting that.
Just don’t like the mic. Horrible
@@eliasmunoz229 I love the mic, it hides for when I don’t need it 👌perfection.
Hi techne.i gave you a heads up about these..CAN You please try and find out why or when these will be available in the UK.I have the penrose,h6pro closed, and recently bought the Phillips shp 9500.which is fantastic,all because I can't get shipping to the .uk.Why oh Why.???.many thanks
I asked on twitter, they responses vary from Fall to Winter 2022. I am in the EU as well, want these badbois!
The corsair hs80 returned them the steelseries arctis 1 xbox blows hs80s out the water hands down and the are 100 bucks. Love u techne keep spinning
I play apex a lot and I play other games like The Witcher 3 and Ghosts of Tsushima and Dark Souls etc. Fonal fantasy and stuff. Wonder if I'd like the EPOS 6pro or the VZR. I don't care about cost really.
H6pro open back
What do you think ? Should i buy the Audeze Penrose voor Call Of Duty Warzone ? I am a warzone Player on PC !!!
The PC38X sounds great on Insurgency Sandstorm!
7:43 I'm sorry but this is not correct at all. I'm an audio engineer by profession. Spatial positioning is a very proper term, and it's something that can both be enhanced by the headset you use as well as by the audio engineers making the actual mix. It can very much give a competitive advantage, because you can more precisely pinpoint where gunshots, footsteps and vehicles are coming from, assuming it was done correctly on both ends.
agreed, Techne needs to stick to reviewing how comfortable a headset is because he doesn't have a clue about audio. To add, "sound is a personal preference" is only justification to say something just as uneducated as "I like blue, it's the best color". I also own the VZR headset he's reviewing here. During the nova pro discussion he's talking about out of the box you get those great sounds with VZR, "you dont need any software". He obviously didn't turn off his spatial software and play a game with these. You are correct, the mix matters, a lot. This is also why he doesn't understand why the PC38X is so good. Yes they sound different from the VZR, but if all we are comparing is the sound, the fidelity/clarity, the frequency range and driver matching gives them far more usefulness while gaming than this beloved bass and the cozy thing he rants about.
I'm FINALLY hopefully getting some Audeze LCD-GX's.
man, your in for a treat!! BUT can I recommend you get the LCD-2's instead
@@TheTechne getting them for $450 can't argue too much at that price.
@@TheTechne would you recommend that over the vzr?. I need to buy a new headset asap!
What do you recommend regardless of price for the best listening to music experience (mic and no mic)
Its unfortunate that they’re not shipping to Europe otherwise i might get them. Still looking for that best immersive gaming headset
This vs. the penrose with a eq, more bass and more highs. I love my penrose, they get so loud and i tested them with other dynamic driver headsets and the penrose blows them out the water. So idk if i can justify paying 350$ for these when i got my penrose for 240$ and the planar magnetic drivers sound so good and different compared to dynamic drivers
Exactly the Penrose are better if these where that good where are all the yt audiophiles at ijs
ey tech, do the vzr only sound as good as you are proclaiming when run through a dac/amp, or do they sound just as good connected to the xbox controller? I feel like that is the deciding factor for me between the VZR and nova pro wired. Any help in this would be greatly appreciated.
If you can only have one desert island scenario style VZR Model One or EPOS H6Pro Closed?
wireless nova pro sounds terrible once you use the Penrose or VZR. When you spoil your eardrums it's hard to take steps backwards.
Are these headphones applicable to the ipad air? do a lot of gaming, but seems so far airpods work the best for me. would love to upgrade.
I’ve been sold on these but they’re not available in the UK :(
so, how can you get these in uk, also what they like compared to Maxwell ?
How would you compare these to the Beyerdynamic 700/900 Pro X? Right now I’m using the 900 pro x to a XLR mini and Rode pod mic, but I’m thinking about returning it for the VZR Model One and a Schiit Hel2e mix amp. I don’t stream or make videos, I’m mainly aiming for the best sound with reasonable mic audio. What would you suggest? Thanks!
(Gaming focused with occasional music)
Waiting on that Sony Inzone H9 review!!!
Did you try the VZR with a DAC? Like say, The Shiit Hel 2?
I wanted to buy some cushions for my steel series pro headset, do u know if the wicked cusions WC Freeze are good, or should i just get the normal ones.
So i only play call of duty warzone. What headset would you recommend for that?
I’m looking for a headset that can connect to all my consoles plus big bonus if it can connect to my phone for music and has amazing/ mind blowing sound with super accurate tracking like 3d audio and it would be a bonus if wireless and still sounds great but if it isn’t that’s fine if the quality is so much better. I’ve been watching your videos and I’m stuck between these or the steel series nova pro. What would you recommend sir?
vzr
you have to test th SH hd800s with a proper dac amp!
Hey Techne, Can you add any input on what you think the best amp/dac is for the VZR. I have the VZR, which I love but id like to pair it with a amp/dac. I have the sound blaster G3 now.
Ifi go bar or ifi go bar gold
Better than the Meze & Audeze LCD GX?
do you have to have the application open for Sonar to work? i dont know if thats true.
@TheTechne if you had to choose between the VZR, Steelseries ones or Audeze for straight up plugging into my controller or just using it on console which one would you choose? And idk if this will help but warzone is my primary game and I dabble into some pubg and pvp games as well or if there is another headset u recommend or making a video on console also let me know!
shewww man, I might have to make a video on that, thats tough
I highly recommend the audeze. I tested them with other regular gaming headsets that sound good aswell but the audeze drivers are just on another level tbh. Also if you have a pc I recommend getting an eq on it and they will sound even better with more bass
Hey man does this headset get the sound perks just plugging it into a xbox controller. Plz help SOS
Yes they do. They work on any device the same. Because they are a stereo Hifi headset. With only aux input.
@@DanV.Teachings this doesn't make sense to me. How would a dinky winky series x controller be able to do what a Amp deck. But can you even use Amp decks with this headset? I'm so stinkin' confused.
I had to return my VZR ONE Because I couldn't listen to both music AND xbox at the same time.
I feel I should have kept the Model One now, but how could I use it on my xbox s/x 🤔 without just plugging it into a controller.
anyone have any opinion on the VRZ vs the EPOS H6 Pro for gaming?
When Bang&Olufsen Beoplay portal gaming headset mate?
Is this better than Arctic’s nova pro?
What amp would you recommend for console?
I'm confused, mind my question.
But How would a dinky winky series x controller be able to do well with the VZR?
But can you even use Amp decks with this headset & series X?
I'm so stinkin' confused.
I had to return my VZR ONE Because I couldn't listen to both music AND xbox at the same time. (Regrets?)
I feel I should have kept the VZR Model One now, but how could I use it on my xbox s/x 🤔 without just plugging it into a controller.
And if I do buy a headset do I buy wired with a muxamp package?
I use them with schiit hel 2 amp/dac works with ps5/seriesX just plug in the usb in front of the consoles
Their no customer support on their website so where do to email?
Why should I go 349 dollars for this when Sennheiser hd 560s are 179 and you can buy a mic that do not sound like crap?
anyone know where/if you can get these in the uk?
did you know that steelseries made a mini version of their Apex Pro
yes
hello techne long time so see btw i finally got the keyboard gmmk and just wana ask should i get the g335 or blackshark v2 x headset
v2x
thanks so mauch you helped me in my keyboard roller coaster and now the headset
Would you recommend these over the penrose?
very different headsets
just bought these is there a dac or software I need? right now just plugging into my pc
The sound blaster x seems to work great with the VZR.
Vzr vs nova pro?
I've heard these have custom built drivers. After experiencing them in person, do you personally believe they've actuality custom built their own drivers??
Is it worth it to go Vzr from pc38x?
100% yes
Penrose OR VZR?
I have both and it just depends on what you want them for. The PenroseX get really loud, they are brighter with higher highs and not as much bass as the VZR. My biggest issue with the PenroseX is I feel like everything is so loud it gets jumbled together (especially for competitive gaming). I don't feel like they pinpoint as well.
The first day I got the VZR, I was like, ehhh $350 and I can't turn the volume up, they sounded so faint and diluted because I was comparing them to the PenroseX. After a week, I started noticing so much more sound space, more stuff going on in the environment of games. Longer draw distances (sound stage). Where it pin points multiple layered sounds uniquely. If you are fan of music, they separate the instruments like no other headset I've ever tried. It's something that I've never experienced and it's truly amazing.
It's hard to choose 1 over the other because it's all about what you want out of them. But if I had to choose, I'd probably go with the VZR. Unless you really want the Wireless/Bluetooth feature on the PenroseX.
But my question is, does plugging into series x (xbox) controller offer quality? I don't see how it's possable.
@@Itz__Swifty yea they plug to any device the same. Because they are a wired Hifi stereo headset. Just plug and play. Same sound for all the devices.
Penrose imo you can eq more bass if you want I might try these since I have the Penrose but I also have the x2hr fidelio and those sound amazing paired with the v moda boom mic
WOW TECHNE NOT ONE STEELSERIES 😕
He compared the vzr to the steelseries arctis nova pro at the beginning.
Techne I love your channel I love you in depth reviews. But my bank account and my wife might differ. I love headsets i have an art work of my phones hanging on the wall. Want you to know if there is a set I need I tube Into you. Thanks for for nets passion peace and blessings to u and the fam
lol, same here man
P.S. WHERE CAN I GET THAT HEAD SET SHIRT SIR
right below video, in my merch link
Would anyone recommend the Sony WH-1000XM5 as a good headset for gaming?
You lost me when you put anything made by Razor on the table to compare these.
buy hifiman sundara and then compare them
they are beast
I have had my eyes on them bad boys
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Your Just Comparing To PC, What A About LISTENING When Your Playing XBOX, GAMES, In 4K, 120 Hrz. On Your 8K, TV, Or LISTENING To MUSIC, Or 3D, & 4K MOVIES, From Your 8K, Recivers???
The VZR ONE, Is All About Bring That Surround Sound, & Nothing Brings Out The DTS X, Or DOLBY ATMOS, When You Want That 11.2 Surround Sound, At Midnight, But You Dont Want Police Knocking On Your Door....
For Me Its About Having No Restrictions When It Comes To Enjoying MY THUNDER DOME IMAX 3D, 4K - 8K MAN CAVE...
But Hey Your At Least Pumped About Explaining
Your Product, On Your Channel, Fire It up Up UP...
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Mr.Techne are you the one whom i texted at Telegram??
no that is a scam
@@TheTechne thank god i didn’t follow him, i though that was you