Where to cut the saddle slot on this guitar bridge?

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  • Time to install a saddle in this bridge. Where exactly to put it? Salvaging this original Gibson bridge required filling the saddle slot. You can’t assume the original factory placement was correct. Dan Erlewine shows how he located this saddle.
    About the guitar in this video: This 1942 Gibson LG-2 is all mahogany. It's often called a "banner" model because of the peghead decal: a banner reading "Only A Gibson Is Good Enough."
    Thanks to our friend, Dakota Dave Hull for the music!
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Komentáře • 142

  • @michaelandmelanieasby4378
    @michaelandmelanieasby4378 Před 4 lety +14

    Ol' Dan the Man....love how he uses modern tools with old timers inventive imagination.

  • @bpabustan
    @bpabustan Před 5 lety +30

    At first I thought Dan Erlewine made a Floyd Rose bridge for an acoustic guitar!

  • @coreymihailiuk5189
    @coreymihailiuk5189 Před 4 lety +2

    Dan is a wizard of guitar repair and a Godsend for every guitar repair man who benefits from his generous sharing of valuable knowledge.

  • @fordsrestorations970
    @fordsrestorations970 Před rokem

    45 years of fine woodworking and I discover programs like this that I learn a lot more .

  • @SkyfallLodge
    @SkyfallLodge Před 8 lety +19

    I can barely play a guitar, not really sure why I enjoy watching one being repaired so much.

  • @TwistedMatter
    @TwistedMatter Před 2 lety +1

    Dan, what a dream it would be to spend a year as your apprentice absorbing as much of your experience and knowledge as possible. You are an innovative guitar genius.

  • @ScrapwoodCity
    @ScrapwoodCity Před 5 lety +8

    That little brass gadget is really brilliant!

    • @ianmoshe227
      @ianmoshe227 Před 3 lety

      i know im asking the wrong place but does someone know of a method to log back into an instagram account?
      I was stupid lost the password. I appreciate any tips you can give me!

    • @kyesullivan7137
      @kyesullivan7137 Před 3 lety

      @Ian Moshe Instablaster ;)

  • @mesri3
    @mesri3 Před 4 lety +1

    It's fascinating to watch Dan work and I have been watching many of his videos. It's become an every day thing. Last night, I went to sleep watching another of Dan's videos, his voice sonorous and gently lulling me to sleep. Now I almost didn't click on this video, when i saw the title and thought how interesting can this be but I'm glad I did.

  • @littlepersondi
    @littlepersondi Před 3 lety +1

    Dan.... I could watch you all day! I love the preciseness and all the knowledge you have accumulated. Such an art.

  • @TheOnlyGuitarFather
    @TheOnlyGuitarFather Před 2 lety +1

    The Bob Ross of guitars. Best teacher on CZcams

  • @FriendM2010
    @FriendM2010 Před 2 lety

    Online calculator is great. StewMac ingenuity to make the bridge placement jig to trial and error bridge placement, Brilliant!!!

  • @jacobynt6851
    @jacobynt6851 Před 7 lety +8

    A cool phrase for remembering how to fix intonation -" fret flat, forward" with regards to the fretted 12th string versus 12th fret harmonic. Hope that helps someone 😁

  • @bellowphone
    @bellowphone Před 8 lety +32

    Another great video. It's a privilege to be able to watch these, and get so many useful tips.

  • @finnchristensen527
    @finnchristensen527 Před rokem

    Warms my heart to see such dedication and skills in finding a workable, repeatable and perfect solution for an issue; thanks so much for sharing 👍👌

  • @unclehomunculus
    @unclehomunculus Před měsícem

    So satisfying and informative to watch.

  • @KimchiSpringRoll
    @KimchiSpringRoll Před 2 lety +1

    This man is a master.

  • @jimnardo8177
    @jimnardo8177 Před 8 lety +1

    Dan, you are always a breath of fresh air with some guitar dust in there! Thanks for sharing!

  • @lestergeez4349
    @lestergeez4349 Před rokem

    Dan's an acoustical genius. 😊

  • @audiotechlabs4650
    @audiotechlabs4650 Před 8 lety +1

    This are the most valuable tips! For guitar builders, there is no better tool for saddle slotting. Thankz

  • @stevensrspcplusmc
    @stevensrspcplusmc Před 5 lety +1

    Dan I wish I had the patience you have .. you are a true craftsman 👍

  • @Bbendfender
    @Bbendfender Před 5 lety +2

    My cousin always used to say "we don't want 'em too good, they'll all want 'em that way". This is a great little mechanism for setting the bridge angle.

  • @michaeladamcaira9174
    @michaeladamcaira9174 Před 8 lety +4

    when i started out as a tech,Dans books and videos were my bibles,now as a luthier,they are just as helpful,there is no one better

    • @ricotorres2674
      @ricotorres2674 Před 5 lety

      michaeladam caira where can i buy his book i want to become a luthier too

  • @geraldponce8336
    @geraldponce8336 Před 7 měsíci

    That gave me an idea. Have an acoustic that I wish the saddle slot was back a couple millimeters. When I intonated the bridge saddle the low E, A, and B string are at the back edge of the saddle and still a cent sharp. Have used the lightest gauge strings. Was thinking about a compensated saddle but the strings are too close to the bridge block for that. Think I could just widen the back edge of the slot with that tool and use a wider saddle to gain the extra space I need to intonate.

  • @mbmillermo
    @mbmillermo Před rokem

    You are a great craftsman!

  • @ClamsAnonymous
    @ClamsAnonymous Před 8 lety +17

    I've always wondered how luthiers set the intonation on acoustic guitar. This was a very cool video!

    • @jonandersonmd7994
      @jonandersonmd7994 Před 7 lety +5

      it's impossible to correctly set the intonation to be correct on an acoustic guitar ... unlike an electric, where individual string adjustments are available.

    • @TheBeatle49
      @TheBeatle49 Před 4 lety +4

      The vast majority don't do it this way!

    • @ZodiacEntertainment2
      @ZodiacEntertainment2 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jonandersonmd7994 Instruments don't generally need super precise intonation, but it helps when somebody is as dedicated as Dan is to getting it close.

  • @chrisk8208
    @chrisk8208 Před 7 lety +4

    Try putting a bit of low tack (masking) tape on the bridge before installing the intonation tool. Then you'll have an easy surface to mark once you've adjusted the L shaped fingers.

  • @shoumeekbose4662
    @shoumeekbose4662 Před 3 lety

    Awesome.... Gave me the feels.

  • @That.old.mountain
    @That.old.mountain Před rokem

    I want one of those intonaters permanently on an acoustic bridge - being able to adjust intonation and saddle height per string would be amazing

  • @cabronismo
    @cabronismo Před 4 lety

    Dan Erlewine is the Bob Ross of guitar maintenance

  • @leftoverking
    @leftoverking Před 6 lety

    neat tool. i have struggled with this task in the past. i used a toothpick i'd roll back and forth to find the right positions. sometimes i'd end up with some unusual compensations on the saddle. a nice piece of brass makes this way easier to hear the notes.

  • @SylvainHache
    @SylvainHache Před 2 lety

    Thank God for this man!

  • @FranziKoe
    @FranziKoe Před 8 lety +11

    I'm often impressed with the tools you come up with. Unfortunately shipping to Germany is very expesive 😀

    • @madgeniusmusic
      @madgeniusmusic Před 8 lety +2

      So is shipping to England. :-(

    • @lauriedepaurie
      @lauriedepaurie Před 8 lety +1

      So is shipping to the Netherlands :(

    • @frontbum420
      @frontbum420 Před 6 lety +2

      so is shipping to Canada

    • @yogamoshi567
      @yogamoshi567 Před 5 lety +1

      Most of the tools are unnecessary, these videos are literally just paid advertisements for their tools.

    • @akipachoekie
      @akipachoekie Před 5 lety

      @@lauriedepaurie wou dat ik mijn Cuatro Venezolano even kon laten afstemmen door hem.

  • @-RandomBiz-
    @-RandomBiz- Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this! What a great invention!

  • @BenState
    @BenState Před 2 lety

    I love this man.

  • @jonandersonmd7994
    @jonandersonmd7994 Před 7 lety +1

    Dan ... you might want to include the fact that as you do your first intonation adjustment with your special tool, each string's forces are now different, and the entire set of strings ought to be checked again for intonation ...and perhaps again and again .. but when the instrument is in 'playing position', not on a bench...

  • @musicsoundgear
    @musicsoundgear Před 8 lety

    Great video and tip. I learned a lot from this. Thanks Dan!

  • @henryssurfshowcase
    @henryssurfshowcase Před 6 lety

    Nice I watch your other video and this one, I'm going to look for the one you cut the string slots on the bone

  • @U_ever
    @U_ever Před 8 lety

    Mr. E.
    You're a GENIUS !
    Thanks for casting your pearls amongst the swine.

    • @neverlooksatit7986
      @neverlooksatit7986 Před 5 lety +1

      Fortunately, Dan is not as rude, condescending and snotty toward his audience as yourself.

  • @thegee-tahguy4877
    @thegee-tahguy4877 Před 5 lety +1

    The SM Saddle Slotting Jig... the one thing I just can't get myself to buy due to the high cost. Besides, I'm awesome at making custom saddles including saddles that over hang the slot if necessary.

    • @TylrVncnt
      @TylrVncnt Před 4 lety

      Hey can you make a video of you doing this please! It would be extremely educational and super fascinating!
      Cheers!

  • @Musikministeren
    @Musikministeren Před 5 lety +2

    Can the intonator be used permanently for keeping the intonation right on a guitar you have changed from standart scale to short scale...???

  • @captainvideo2
    @captainvideo2 Před 8 lety +1

    Makes me wonder how it's done without that intonation tool? Awesome video, Dan!

    • @lauriedepaurie
      @lauriedepaurie Před 8 lety +3

      In the olden days: not. Pure guesswork. Most smaller luthiers: experienced guesswork or calculations. The bigger factories usually have these routed to a specific spec in high quantities.
      To be perfectly honest, this level of intonation is overkill in 90% of situations. I like it, I have a guy that does this for me, but a lot of people don't even tune their guitar that well. And intonation this specific means the slightest changes in dimensions (and that happens a lot in acoustics) or a change of stringgauge/tuning will result in it being not perfect. That's not even really a big thing, unless you're playing open strings while playing higher up the neck.

    • @captainvideo2
      @captainvideo2 Před 8 lety

      +laurens b Thank you for the explanation, which makes perfect sense :)

    • @hackerguitar
      @hackerguitar Před 7 lety +1

      captainvideo2 In the days before this tool, you'd make a saddle and adjust the crown closer to the front or back of the bridge according to how close the 12th fret fretted note and harmonic were. Most slots are 3/32" or so which allows reasonable intonation if the basic compensation angle of the slot takes the mass of the heavier wound strings into account.

  • @wilstandridge7388
    @wilstandridge7388 Před 8 lety +5

    wish I had his knowledge

  • @leewithey2014
    @leewithey2014 Před 2 lety

    Incredible!!’

  • @stewartkeyes2643
    @stewartkeyes2643 Před 7 lety

    How Cool is that!!

  • @haolelongpig6147
    @haolelongpig6147 Před 6 lety

    What a great idea.

  • @budandbean1
    @budandbean1 Před 8 lety

    Dan, you mentioned the dreaded neck reset but with this you are talking about a new bridge block, bridge, and some pretty fancy cutting of the bridge itself. I'm really curious, what kind of savings can you tell your customer about? Neck reset vs all new bridge has to come fairly close in price I'd think.

  • @johncarl43447
    @johncarl43447 Před 6 lety

    thanks for sharing very smart!

  • @Glennastete
    @Glennastete Před 5 lety

    Maestro!

  • @azibkeffli7344
    @azibkeffli7344 Před 6 lety

    He’s the real OG

  • @danh5150
    @danh5150 Před 3 lety

    Very informative video, but I'm not sure why he doesn't cut the raised portion of the bridge into two pieces. Clearly the wound strings (low-E through G) form a very straight line, and the B and high-E form a 2nd line. It would be easy enough to route 2 slots (as many newer acoustics already do). The overall intonation would be more in tune.

  • @claudioortiz6099
    @claudioortiz6099 Před 2 lety

    genious

  • @ResoBridge
    @ResoBridge Před 5 lety

    The problem I have with these videos is that Dan has the enormous resources of StewMac behind him. I don't think I, or my customer, can afford my buying one of these intonation tools to sacrifice to creating low saddles like this. Yes you can keep that modified tool aside for other similar jobs but they are fairly rare.

  • @apinakapinastorba
    @apinakapinastorba Před 8 lety

    Clever tool!

  • @TheRealCatnut
    @TheRealCatnut Před 8 lety +1

    wanting the guitar to be in tune is not a problem ..
    as long as you can make it that way

  • @neverlooksatit7986
    @neverlooksatit7986 Před 5 lety +1

    I wonder how much the intonation would be improved just by doing a proper neck reset.
    Is this work any cheaper?

    • @stewmac
      @stewmac  Před 5 lety +1

      It's possible that a neck reset could help improve intonation, but it really depends on what's causing the problem with the intonation in the first place. If the neck joint isn't the issue, you may just end up creating a new problem while trying fix the current one, since a neck reset is really unlikely to "fix" bad intonation. Generally, a neck reset is a much more involved and invasive repair compared with cutting a new saddle slot in the proper position.

  • @neuro518
    @neuro518 Před 3 lety

    This sets it up for the 2 outside strings, but what about the 4 strings in-between?

  • @lnklttr
    @lnklttr Před 8 lety +3

    I noticed you started with the D string, curious as to why and what your preferred order would be. Also, does the same apply to intonating a solid body?

    • @BigCleverName
      @BigCleverName Před 4 lety +2

      Unless you have an acoustic style bridge, a solid body guitar should have individual saddles you can move one-by-one

  • @gimpdoctor8362
    @gimpdoctor8362 Před 5 lety

    Does putting a hard saddle like this on an acoustic not limit the player to using those gauges of string? If the player changes strings will the guitar's intonation not change? Is it tradition (of using such a style bridge) which keeps acoustics from being as versatile as a guitar with an adjustable saddle?

  • @alexxxx9221
    @alexxxx9221 Před 3 lety

    RESPECT

  • @erickleefeld4883
    @erickleefeld4883 Před rokem

    I would be really tempted to just keep this thing on my acoustic, and treat it like an adjustable bridge on an electric.

  • @Lippa100
    @Lippa100 Před 8 lety +4

    Very nice tool but it made me wonder.. For what reason all acoustics still use a fixed bridge? Doesnt tuningn and everything affect your intonation slightly so wouldnt it be better to have a bridge with adjustable intonation? Seems kinda stupid to me to stick so fixed bridges just for the tradition or is it something else? :/

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 Před 8 lety +7

      i believe fixed bridges transfer vibrations better and are more stable than adjustable ones on hollow body instruments.

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 Před 8 lety +1

      RDE Lutherie
      i'm glad there's lots of smaller builders around to take up the gauntlet and produce top quality instruments without adhering to "tradition", Fender and Gibson still have a firm foothold but they won't last for much longer if they don't up their game i think.

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 Před 8 lety +1

      RDE Lutherie
      unfortunately also, this is a problem endemic with society in general, and all industries; gaming and other media, consumer electronics, even food, of course musical instruments and indeed music itself.

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 Před 8 lety +1

      RDE Lutherie
      it's almost like i wrote that myself. there's no need to rant at me man, even though it's nice to agree with someone for a change. i hate corporations and tbh capitalism in general more than anyone i know, i only watch these Stew Mac videos for the tricks and ideas for tools that i'll just make myself later out of recycled spare parts, i don't even have a bank account. i have an 11 year old phone because anything newer is subject to planned obsolescence. this isn't my real name cause i don't want Google knowing who i am.
      they exploit us to hell and back, it's atrocious and very sad indeed. i see myself as a customer rather than a consumer, and only ever buy things on my own terms, if i can't negotiate the price to what i consider fair, they don't get a sale.

    • @gramursowanfaborden5820
      @gramursowanfaborden5820 Před 8 lety +1

      RDE Lutherie
      you too dude, looking at the "recycling" page of your site now.

  • @thomastommy1192
    @thomastommy1192 Před 8 lety

    As always you produce great videos. I have A Martin D35. About two years ago. I loosened the string's completely. I stored the guitar. It has stayed at a fairly good temp and humidity is OK. I was told this could hurt the guitar when I decide to testring it. Can you please give me advice as to what I should do? I would be greatful for ever. Thank you, Thomas.

    • @neverlooksatit7986
      @neverlooksatit7986 Před 5 lety +1

      I think you should PLAY this guitar. Otherwise, you're doing fine on storage

  • @ed801975
    @ed801975 Před 8 lety

    Very interesting! Just curious...if the saddle is going to follow the path of the intonator's individual saddles, why not intonate just the two E strings to save time? Will the final saddle be compensated according to the intonator, or will it be a straight saddle? Can't wait to see the second part! And beautiful guitar!

    • @TheBeatle49
      @TheBeatle49 Před 4 lety

      Because the intonation is based on a string's core diameter, not its total diameter. So a wound g has a core comparable to a plain high e.

  • @Andluth
    @Andluth Před 2 lety

    Where did you get that hard white pencil and leads?

  • @yrulooknatme
    @yrulooknatme Před 8 lety

    do you file the saddle string area individually to dial it in like the gage indicated or is that unnecessary?

  • @U014B
    @U014B Před 8 lety +1

    Now all we need is one with springs to keep tension and one for 12-strings.

  • @artgallery743
    @artgallery743 Před 4 lety

    Would seem that you would have high E and low E intonated but perhaps the other 4 strings may or may not have fallen along the same line drawn.

  • @Bigsinglecoils
    @Bigsinglecoils Před 8 lety

    That's really cool. Love watching your vids!

  • @TMoody
    @TMoody Před 6 lety

    Wow!

  • @BobSperber
    @BobSperber Před 2 lety

    Someone commented that it look like a Floyd Rose. Don’t stop! Make a Campfire Metal special with a whammy bar and locking nut/tuners. (ouch)

  • @photondebuger45
    @photondebuger45 Před 2 lety

    People you don't know the MAGIC having a guitar intonated please do it and check your guitars bar chords never sounded so good and on electric guitar power chords are so satisfying good

  • @squidskunk
    @squidskunk Před 7 měsíci

    why is this tool discontinued..?

  • @BassWhoopinFishingTeam

    i have a 1962 LG0 myself! Unfortunately it is totally unplayable due to a really terrible and VERY high action but it's sentimental to me because it was passed down to me and i don't trust anyone to work on it and get it playable out of fear of them breaking it or doing something that can't be repaired...

    • @neverlooksatit7986
      @neverlooksatit7986 Před 5 lety +1

      Loosen the strings and store it.
      You need a neck reset and/or bridge work A competent luthier will charge 300-1000 for this work to make it playable. A 1962 LGO is a $500 guitar in todays market

  • @richyp7126
    @richyp7126 Před 5 lety +1

    or you can use some cut down drill bits like builders have been doing for years and save a ton of money

  • @jemyfahrudinsyah
    @jemyfahrudinsyah Před 7 lety

    could you show the video how to fix buzz , my guitar always buzz on 5 string at fret 3, before that i make sadle lower with my ownself
    i was to trying set truss road but still buzz .. but

    • @XwpisONOMA
      @XwpisONOMA Před 4 lety

      no truss rod and no bridge adjustments; first hammer/press down into its slot the fret immediately higher than fret that buzzes. you will need a special tool to check for fret levelness, you can use of course the string itself but it is easier with this: www.amazon.com/fret-rocker/s?k=fret+rocker

    • @jimdoner3443
      @jimdoner3443 Před 4 lety +1

      Most likely a high fret or a bad bridge pin

  • @sullycliftona
    @sullycliftona Před 5 lety

    cool

  • @SuperMikete
    @SuperMikete Před 8 lety

    genial nada mas q decir

  • @MrChivomin
    @MrChivomin Před 8 lety

    Thats fucking genius

  • @Eric_B
    @Eric_B Před 8 lety

    Always wondered why they don't just make an adjustable bridge for acoustics?

    • @kcb5150
      @kcb5150 Před 5 lety

      It murders the sound quality on an acoustic

  • @sleeps573
    @sleeps573 Před 6 lety

    I'm still trying to figure out how to put my saddle back in correctly cuz it fell out while I was changing strings...can someone help me please!

    • @stewmac
      @stewmac  Před 6 lety +1

      Does your acoustic guitar's bridge have an open ended saddle slot, or is it just long enough to fit the saddle? Is the guitar in question a typical steel string acoustic, or a classical with a flat fingerboard and saddle? If you can please provide a little more information, I would be happy to help as much as possible.

  • @leif-andersbanan5590
    @leif-andersbanan5590 Před 3 lety

    It's funny how one always plucks the strings while unwinding, there's really no need but it's fun

  • @zurdoremi
    @zurdoremi Před rokem

    why not design a permanent Intonator for acoustics ?

  • @toneconsultant
    @toneconsultant Před 7 lety

    /////Very cool

  • @JDNicoll
    @JDNicoll Před rokem

    Dan: a neck reset is not in the budget, so let me apply some quantum physics here.

  • @aaa7man1
    @aaa7man1 Před 7 lety

    Curing a problem that I didn't know about.
    When will these people open the shop to customers who only want their repairs done STEW/MAC??? I COULD NOT TRUST THIS KIND OF WORK TO ANYONE ELSE.

  • @andrewt248
    @andrewt248 Před 7 lety +2

    Intonation OCD is not a bad problem to have. ;)

  • @sinjon
    @sinjon Před 5 lety

    I’d honestly just leave the intonator in there as it looks like a Floyd Rose and offers fine tuning at a moments notice

  • @batsfureels
    @batsfureels Před měsícem

    +1up.

  • @leswhite3524
    @leswhite3524 Před 2 lety

    When I win the big lottery AND inherit my grandfather's fortune in diamond mining, I'll start with a ScrewMac beginner's file set and work up to a multi-million dollar guitar fixing shop.

  • @johnd942
    @johnd942 Před 4 lety

    While I appreciate the skill going into this critical exercise, I don't feel it's right to have to modify what is already an expensive tool. So back to the 'drawing board' StewMac; you charge enough for the tool!

  • @grantperkins368
    @grantperkins368 Před 6 lety

    interesting.

  • @levistubbs8949
    @levistubbs8949 Před 7 lety

    l thought for a moment dan was trouserless !

  • @1.123
    @1.123 Před 4 lety

    and the intonators price is ....
    ....
    749$

  • @jayachandranr4938
    @jayachandranr4938 Před 2 lety

    എനിക്ക് ഇല്ലാതെ പോയ മുത്തച്ഛൻ.

  • @miked9000
    @miked9000 Před rokem

    This thing is a collosal waste of time, money, and effort.
    At best, you are only intonating the 1st, and 6th strings, and that is done in one minute with a dowel.
    Look at the inside string positions when intonated using the tool. They are not in a straight line, but they will be when you install the saddle.
    What is the point of all that effort to get the inside strings perfectly intonated, when the saddle is not going to keep them in the same position?
    Dan is a lone master, Stewmac is a great company, but someone explain to me where I am incorrect.

  • @whaddup7180
    @whaddup7180 Před 5 lety

    so fukin expensive

  • @norgermish1
    @norgermish1 Před 5 lety

    The videos are nice to watch. But what about the tools you use and do not want to buy them or cannot afford them. Better to show people how to do this stuff with tools available to most of us normal people. Your saddle slotting jig thingy really doesn't show people much in the way of trade secrets.

  • @tMatt5M
    @tMatt5M Před 8 lety

    Machinist's pornogrophy