HARKONNEN & SARDAUKAR AMBUSH HOUSE ATREIDES (UHD 4K) - DUNE 2021
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- From the 2021 film adaptation of Frank Herbert's, Dune.
In the distant future, Duke Leto Atreides, ruler of the planet Caladan, is assigned by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV to replace Baron Vladimir Harkonnen as the fiefholder of Arrakis, a harsh desert planet and sole source of "spice", a valuable psychotropic drug that imparts heightened vitality and awareness. Spice is key to interstellar travel, giving Spacing Guild Navigators the ability to guide starships to traverse space instantaneously and safely. Shaddam plots for House Harkonnen to retake Arrakis, secretly aided by his Sardaukar troops, to destroy House Atreides. Leto is suspicious of the Emperor but weighs the risks against the power of controlling Arrakis and making an alliance with its mysterious natives, the Fremen.
The Emperor, suspicious of House Atreides' power, conspires with House Harkonnen to invade Arrakis with the legendary elite soldiers, the Sardaukar. An attempt to assassinate Paul with a hunter-seeker fails. Yueh betrays the Atreides and disables Arrakeen's shields, allowing the Harkonnens and Sardaukar to invade. He incapacitates Leto, planning to exchange him for his wife, who is the Baron's prisoner. Yueh replaces one of Leto's teeth with a poison gas capsule with which the Duke can assassinate the Baron. Leto releases the gas, killing himself and the Baron's Mentat, Piter De Vries, but the Baron survives. Though the Baron has arranged to have Paul and Jessica dropped deep in the desert to die, a compassionate Yueh has left them with stillsuits and other survival supplies. Jessica uses a Bene Gesserit technique called "the Voice" to overpower and kill their captors. Paul and Jessica overnight in the desert where Paul, surrounded by spice, has visions of a bloody "holy war" fought across the universe in his name. - Zábava
Imagine being a Harkonen soldier, your hyped up because you have an overwhelming force backed up by Sardukar, you land and the first guy you meet is Gurney Halleck
fighting with a final boss when you just started playing a game 😂
Gurney puts the face of Rabban on every Harkonnen he slays.
The Harkonnens fight because they are more terrified of what the Baron might do to them than any enemy he might throw them at.
that's dark souls level of bad luck...poor guy, jumped across many lightyears only to be butchered like a pig by the galaxy's best swordsman
What happens to Gurney in Dune 1? I forget where he ends up.
The masculine urge to die for House Atreides
*human urge
@@artloverivyWhat is wrong with masculinity?
@@saonchishty8984women want to die for house atreides too I imagine. Cant blame em.
@@saonchishty8984 Nothing at all. Just saying that people of all varieties wanna fight for Atreides lol.
@@artloverivy I don't.
In the book, the surviving Atreides forces retreat into the caves in the Shield Walls to try and drag out the defense to buy time for Leto to capture some Sardaukar to parade before the Landsraad. They don't know that he is dead. And that the Baron expected this very tactic and has had old style chemical explosive artillery built. The shells fired by this artillery cannot kill the Atreides Soldiers with their personal combat shields but instead, he uses the artillery to seal the Atreides troops into the cave which become their graves. Some of the troops are able to meet up with the Fremen and withdraw to a rally point or they find ways out of the caves. That's where Gurney rallies what's left of the troops and takes refuge with the smugglers.
Wow that’s really cool I just got into Dune and the attention to detail very much reminds me of my favorite series Lord of the Rings
@@thetalkinggreenbox8948
Dune is the Lord of the rings of the sci fi genre, every Sci fi book/movie has been inspired by dune
In the book the aforementioned conventional artillery are guns on the physical ground. The Fremen are able to take down some Sardaukar and actually capture one.
And then they have to turn to the streets to survive.
@@Alexander-yb1zc Dune>> lord of the rings.
I like how the Sardaukar, when they finish killing the Atreides troops on the stairs, don't even acknowledge the Harkonnens, let alone try to coordinate plans with them. They just wipe their blades, turn around and walk away. Hard to think of a colder diss from an ally.
In fact Harkonnen try to stay back while their come
Considering that the harkonans numbered in the hundreds yet were pushed back by only a few dozen men, requiring the saurdaukar to attack them from behind,
It kind of makes the harkonans look like ineffective morons
Exactly, wipe the blade made me think of them saying Harkonnens would be slaughtered by them and should be lucky that’s not their blood on the blades
Means to an end
The Sardaukar most likely saw the Harkonen as the other houses see them, pretty much as opportunistic cowards. Remember, the Sardaukar Commander that was with Piter, was skeptic about helping the Harkonen, and was quite clear that the reason the Sardaukar legions were sent to help was cause they were ordered by the Emperor nothing else.
Was not an ambush. The Atreides were expecting a raid...but got an invasion. The Baron spent much of his capital and had the help of the Emperor.
What they also weren't expecting was the betrayal of the doctor who lowered their shields from the inside
Also the strong from Atreides were the air and naval forces, all of their ships were destroyed at the beginning they were force to fight on the ground
@@abirbinhabib7669And to think Baron merked the doctor regardless 💀
@@GabesEdtiz i mean the baron is a man of his words... i think
@@GabesEdtiz I mean, the doctor knew beforehand that the Baron would kill him.
What I adore of this scene is the clash of different ideologies and tactics from the visuals to the sounds. Atreides are incredibly disciplined, quick acting and have the pipes to inspire. The Harkonnen have their terrifying war horn, a simple marching chant and thousands upon thousands of warriors to overwhelm their foe to make up for their lack of skill.
And then the Sudaukar are near silent, hovering down with advanced technology to just clinically eradicate their foes. They need no war horn, no pipes. Just their voice, just their alien throat singing preaching of their marshal pride.
crrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggeeeeeeeeeeee
I seem to recall a passage from the books, that at the time the Sardaukar, while still an elite fighting force, were already beginning to lose their edge and that the Artreides soldiers, with men like Idaho and Halleck to train them, could eventually match their effectiveness. In fact, this was probably one of he reasons why Shaddam feared Leto so much.
@@Qba86 The books outright state as much. You are blatantly told in writing this was one of Shaddam's reasons. You're not freely coming up with that of your own wit.
@@johnroscoe2406 It's been a while since I read the books, so I'm not always sure what was stated directly and what was merely implied.
@@Qba86 Your cool you stated " I seem to recall " .
2:00 Still give me shock When Gurney Said “With Me!” and the theme of the Atreides start
In the cinema on opening night it was almost a religious experience
@@thomassnowball6374legit some of the movies that you just gotta go to the theaters, even a small one for the big stage sound systems they have.
I was: "Why can't they hit anything!?"
I almost forgot they had no computers to aid in targeting.
Even computers don't guarantee hits. Look at modern AA cannons and guns - they shoot bursts and it's volume of fire that brings down the target. So it's quite realistic for them not to shoot down the ships with every shot they take.
It’s wild that even with computers, every shot is not as accurate as you’d think.
What’s even more wild is seeing videos from the war in the Ukraine and seeing how accurate those grenade-dropping drones are.
@@steverogers7601 not drones - operators behind these drones
@@skipperg4436 ACKSHUALLY that, yes.
They have computers, they just don't have AI/algorithms/etc. They don't have 'thinking machines.'
They caught them by surprise. Didn’t even have armor or all their weapons ready. Yet they still inflicted a massive amount of casualties on a foe who greatly outnumbered them. Truly some the finest legions of warriors in the galaxy.
They knew someone would attack them, most likely the Harkonnens just to fuck up their spice production as much as anything but did not expect a full invasion. It seems like something like big is pretty rare due to the costs to move troops/ships. Even this required the Harkonnens, the Emperor, and the Space Guild to come together to make it happen.
But yes they give it one hell of a fight even against those odds.
@@Swarm509 think i remember from the books it cost the Baron 60 years of spice profits to move so many troops and ships
The Sardaukar were also at lower quality due to Corrino's lowering of standards and incessant to strongarm his rivals.
If this were them at their peak, the tale would have ended much quicker for Atreides
@@elliottgaal9774 regardless they were still the strongest at the time (not counting the fremen mainly because not many knew of their true fighting strength) it’s still In impressive feat
@@trev9168 Agreed.
Sardaukar are no joke and even the best of Atreides were no match.
Funnily enough, fremen and sardaukar share a common ancestor
Literally the entire first line of Harkonnen troops had their shields turn red when they started fighting.
And when the Sardaukar drop and the Harkonnens pull back, none of the dead bodies on the stairs are Atreides
My favorite thing about this entire movie hands down was the fact that the forcefields contain the explosions INSIDE the ships before failing, such a sick attention to detail that significantly amplified the horror of sci-fi futuristic war.
To me, I think the greatest horrors of these sorts of future wars is how asymmetric the battles can be. Whole armies wiped out rather than eroded to the point of surrender, because of the technology and tactics they use.
The foreshadowing was there, but actually seeing this scene play out was nauseating. I remember feeling a guttural swell of anger at the injustice of it. There’s something hard-hitting about being reminded not just of the brutality of life, but of the possibility that even a formidable force of decency and hope can be dissipated with adequate disregard for honour.
this is extremely well said
@@ratboy_ I love to write about movies, but I seldom have the motivation, so that comment means a lot. Thank you!
Agree I almost hate this scene as the Atreides are so decent and honourable, seeing them wiped out is a hard watch
Whether you realized it or not, you just summed up how to make your audience cry
Show them injustice
So well said, its one of the main themes of Dune imo. Power DOES come from honor and decency. But more often than not it is ripped away by violation and brutality.
0:21 Anybody notice that the first thing the Harkonnen hit was the tower back there? I'd bet solarii that's the control tower. Decapitates the Atreides' air command right as they need to coordinate takeoffs. The Harkonnen are treacherous brutes, but they're not stupid.
Yes it will be, I also thought about it after i saw it first.
iirc your correct, in artwork that apears to be the spaceport c and c building.
I always thought that was an anti-spaceship gun.
This is such a nerd speculation lol
And then they pretty much glass the city, presumably to wipe out any Atreides soldiers that were on patrol and thus save them potentially weeks of street fighting to hunt them down
when I look back at this scene, what really makes it stand out is the lighting, it constantly switches between night and illumination through fires and explosions, and it is done wonderfully, looks fantastic
Yeah it's impossible to tell what's going on -- but that's intentional, you're as confused as the Atreides are.
@@NealX_Gaming "The Atreides will die in the dark"
@@NealX_Gamingunless your watching on an new tv with good blacks and darks or an oled tv.
On Gurney, one of my history teachers in Highschool once said there's two types of generals: Those that order the Attack... And those that say "Follow me". We know which type Gurney is.
Both
So good!
I've always found that to be a rather stupid claim. Someone needs to command and order strategy in war. If a general goes out to the front line to shoot at the enemy, he is foolish. His responsibility is to order the battle in such a way as to achieve the objective with as few casualties as necessary. Any man can hold a rifle, but not just anyone can be a general. A soldier falls and there are others to take his place. The same cannot be said for a commander.
I get what the phrase is meant to imply, but on its face it's actually quite stupid.
Gurney, man he is fearless charging even though the enemies outnumbers them... "with me, with me!!" Had me chills
And not only charging, but rallying his fellow brothers!
And not only charging, but rallying his fellow brothers!
I love this scene perfectly addressing one of my movie pet peeves: soldiers in a battle just drawing weapons and charging with no regard for formation or tactics.
We see that initially with Gurney leading the charge, but that's an emergency reaction. The enemy landed a hundred feet away from them.
But as soon as we cut inside, once the Atreides have had a moment to fall back and organize, they have formed a battle line with high ground and polearms that wreck the Harkonnen until the Sardukkar respond with their own clever tactic by using their grav belts to flank from behind.
I loved this too, I think gurney realised that charging was the only real option.
The Harkonnens had armour and numbers but were currently disorganised as they were disembarking. So charging in made sense for once !
And like you said it bought time for the troops in the castle to organise.
It's not just that. The Atreides all turn to face the Sardaukar when they drop. You see the Harkonnen troops don't move when the Atreides soldiers turn to take advantage of that. The Sardaukar don't even lose one of their soldiers to the Atreides in their initial attack here, while the Atreides soldiers die fairly quickly.
Yeah but then they go completely against this idea later with the Sardaukar using no battle tactics at the ecology station, and in Part Two when they engage the Fremen in the open desert where they should KNOW worms will be??
@@costco_pizza but no one knew that fremen could use worms like that and because the fremen were dealing heavy casualities to sardaukar, the sardaukar were going out of their way to hunt fremen whenever they can, ignoring all logic and reason
@@costco_pizza I'd answer that by saying that at the eco station, the Sardaukar had no knowledge of the Fremen's sand stealth tactics and had believed the initial area to be completely clear. And in part 2, they had A. no other good landing spots for their massive army and B. no idea that the Fremen would attack so suddenly and C. no idea that Fremen could control worms.
Dune 2 is going to be incredibly satisfying.
Yes, avenging this massacre will be epic.
Can't wait!
I will not watch it.
hell yeah can't wait to see the unstoppable demon army of fremen
I hope they do other books
Still gives me goodbumps when they charged and the bagpipes Play
Imagine being one the Atreides soldiers and experiencing the sudden shock of the ambush, seeing your ships destroyed, fear and adrenaline running through your body, then seeing the enemy descend in front of you.
If those bagpipes were genuinely played and I heard them play to start the charge into battle: F it! We may be lose our lives but Let’s get on with it!!!
I still feel cheated I we didn't get to see a longer battle play out.
@@Kaeden_Hahn me too! Ive said the exact same thing. Hopefully Denis makes good in part 2.
Funny thing, it not actually a bagpipe you're hearing during the charge sequence. Hans Zimmer talks about it in his interview with Vanity Fair. czcams.com/video/93A1ryc-WW0/video.html @ 11:53
Bagpipes were a trash trope.
I hope in the next film, we get to see a flashback from Hallek's perspective of the battle that took place. The shot of the Atreides force charging into certain death with the bagpipes always gives me chills. C'mon Denis give it to us.
That happens in the book right, or at least we see the direct aftermath?
@fasteddy9312 We actually never hear anything from Gurney in the book until he first meets with Tuek, a smuggler, to hide and protect him and his men, assumedly only days following the attack. We only ever hear about the raid. We never experience it through anyone but Paul. Only the aftermath.
He did not lol and it’s barely mentioned in the book in detail
He didn’t :((
I was disappointed that Gurney didn't have a dog in his jacket....
THE PUGS MUST FLOW!
@@mkultra2456 Sadly, he did not live to see the chairdogs.
2:32 commander: "ATREIDES!"
Everyone except that one guy: "ATREIDES!"
That one guy: "UOAHAOW"
"Steve is special"
God that shot at 0:10 is terrifying. The scale is staggering.
Total, esse é o meu shot preferido desse filme. Simplesmente arrepiante. Como você disse, o senso de escala aqui é surreal. Villeneuve acertou em cheio.
i was saying the same thing over and over again while watching this movie for the first time in theaters. such a masterpiece.
A ship so large you can see it from orbit is eerie
While the Atreides are busy battling the Harkonnen, the Emperor’s forces stealthily stabs them in the back. It’s almost a metaphor illustrating how most dynastic intrigue plays out.
Never forget that Gurney Halleck successfully fought off the Sardaukar in his goddamn _PJs._
I think he fought the Harkonnen. While Duncan fought the Sardaukar
@@VolkovVelikanwith that many ships landing and three battalions worth? He definitely came across some during the battle.
House Atreides soldiers walking to their deaths like total badasses.
I think most people don’t understand that Duke Leto knew an attack was coming but he had no idea it would be so fast and that the emperor would personally help in it. Given more time to prepare it would of went a lot better for house Atreides imo
Especially since, if he had more time to prepare, he might’ve been able to secure alliances with the Fremen. The Harkonnens were lucky to strike when they did because if Leto had been successful in that the Atreides would be unstoppable.
@@a.morphous66I mean that's the main reasoning for the Emperor's invasion of Arrakis. He doesn't want House Atreides to grow stronger and create an alliance with the Fremen. House Atreides would be unstoppable if that happened
@@isiaharellano3789He had no fucking idea of the fremen population and just how deadly fighters they were .He got rid of house atreides because due to the charisma of the duke ,they were gaining more and more influence within the landsraad and the other great houses started to look at house atreides for leadership instead of corrino because at the time there was no male heir to House Corrino and the fact that the atreides legions were getting dangerously close to matching the lethality of the sardaukars by being trained by Duncan Idaho, Gurney Halleck and Jessica.Even when they were ambushed and outnumbered atreides soldiers fought savagely and inflicted heavy casualties on the sardaukar and harkonnen forces .If they had even a year of time to prepare and make an alliance with the fremen, they would have been unstoppable for sure and the galaxy would have been spared a jihad at the very least
Leto makes it clear that this is what he knew was happening. They accurately predict that they need to protect the Space Port and the Spice Silos, basically where he was attacked. He talks about how he was backstabbed during his survey of the Spice Harvest.
What he really didn't see coming was being betrayed from the inside by Doctor Yue. If they had their shields up and Communications they could've coordinated a better defense.
He actually knew all of that. For a fact they planned for it from the moment they got Arrakis. The mistake they made was expecting the Emperor to send 5 batallions while in reality he sent 50.
Seeing Dune on an IMAX was one of the best decisions I ever made
Watch Part Two multiple times then. You will not regret it.
@@elijahalbiston already have. It’s fantastic
@@elijahalbiston Seen 2 times already, is indeed really good, although ............. the last battle I was hoping to see more "melee combat" that it was shown, I also was expecting to see more vicious fights between fremen and harkonnen, also, I was expecting that Raban would give a bit more of a fight against Duncan than he did, Harkonnens were portrayed as idiotic bullies, I wanted to see that vicious brutality that is so characteristic of harkonnen fanatics. The only character that I though it was brilliant was Feyd, incinerating that fremen woman was indeed the cruel barbarity of the Harkonnen house.
Gurney shouting, "With me!!" and charging the field of battle gives me goosebumps every time. His well-trained troops following him without any hesitation. Imagine how many expertly trained, lethal fighters the Atreides had that hated the Harkonnen. They probably took out thousands Harkonnen before being wiped out.
The Baron in the book admited that his forces suffered heavy loses with the attack in the Atreides.
And they were caught by surprise, imagined if they were ready from the start.
0:39 I love how the bomb first burrows through the force field fefore exploding, with the blast filling the volume of the force field before it finally fails too. I hope some Sardaukar or Harkonnen goes out that way in the sequel. I close quarters fight with one of the heroes, they think they have the upper hand only to discover a live hand grenade pinned to their belt.
Outside of cities in the desert shields are not used because it always attracts sandworms and drives them into a rage. So the chance is very slim for there to be shield combat. However there will be enough opportunity in the second movie for cool combat scenes.
Its a good possibility. The shields get levied on how powerful they are but its shown again and again there are actually many workarounds for them. In fact to the point that they actually aren't even all that effective when you leverage their weaknesses. I think the idea is to juxtapose the mentality of the two combatants. The Harkonean using cheating tactics with weapons designed to overcome the shields easily from a distance. Compared to the Atredes who fight honorably up close and give their opponents a chance.
@@gwell2118 Shields have one weakness - slow moving attacks can pass, that's it. People will always find ways to beat defensive equipment, be it shields, walls, moats etc and with this energy shield technology it is the same.
It is only logical that people in Dune have figured out how to destroy shielded ships by using bombs/missiles/drones that are programmed to slow down near impact with the shield but once they pass they will explode. That's not cheating, that's finding countermeasures for something and i'm pretty sure the Atreides and all other houses have such weapons in their arsenal too.
Also what is honorable about engaging in hand to hand? Atreides are not dumb, honor doesn't factor in that at all. Had the Atreides known the attack was coming they would have foought conventionally with air forces, guns, artillery and only hand to hand as a last resort.
It just makes for a more exciting visual seeing Gurney leading them into a desperate last stand attack because by that point they had already lost but to believe they would give away any military logic to go hand to hand Samurai style is just not realistic in the context who Atreides are.
@@FPAlpha no I’m not talking about the actual pseudo science of the universe or what they might or might not have done I’m talking about it as a presented narrative and the tactics presented on screen
@@gwell2118the Atreides aren’t taken advantage of by Harkonnen tactics because Atreides are more honorable with shields, they’re taken advantage of because the Harkonnen know to an incredibly degree of specificity the exact specifications of all of Arakkis’s defensive capabilities and we’re also able to shut down some of those capabilities through deception. It’s easier for the bombs and ships to penetrate the shield when they know they exact height and location of every shield, know exactly where every ship will be, know exactly where the Atreides will want to rally troops and so where to slip Sardukar in behind them.
Josh Brolins mad face is terrifying. Just amazing grit as an actor.
The Atreides did not go quietly into the night, they faced their end head on with determination, courage and sword in hand, taking many a Harkonnen and Sardaukar with them
hm...Gurney can smile, when he's killing Harkonnen.
😂 какая ирония.. Гурни сам харконнен так как родом с их планеты и защищает внука харконнена 😂 от харконненов
@@vitaalstitistix_wot3200only the Harkonnen relatives are the Harkonnens, and that’s for sure not about Giedi Prime natives, oppressed and enslaved by them. Maybe you are one of those minor peoples of Russia, oppressed by Moscow and it is so pleasant for you to think you Russiankonnen, when in fact you are just a Putin’s slave ;-)
2:02 I didn’t realize how much I needed Josh Brolin and bagpipes so much in my life until this moment
2:00 just that scene only enough to give me goosebumps
Dude that little shot of them walking 1:47
Wish we could have watched them fight longer.
Should have been a three part trilogy from the start, that'd have so much more time for fighting and world building.
@@noelrios9320 You realize Part 2 is coming out later this year or next year right?
I think that is party the point, the Sardaukar are so good the fight was short. Longer then against any other foe to that date but still fast. The fight on the steps shows that off perfectly.
"You have no idea how much it cost me to render this"
This scene always hits me in my chest. The overwhelming force that they’re hit with just makes the situation feel so hopeless, but everyone fights on anyway, and you can tell they’ve prepared for something like this. It’s inspiring in the most dreadful way possible.
It's ironic in the scene where Gurney was rushing into the Harkonnen positions and surrounded it was prob like all his birthdays came at once.
He's surrounded by his hated enemies and given the chance to kill as many as he could
It was a target-rich environment!
"For Caladian! For House Artraides! For Duke Leto!"
if you've read the book it gives the backstory that a scenario like this is basically Gurney's life dream and revenge
Well, his life dream would have been doing that to members of the actual Harkonnen family (seriously, CZcams, you auto-deleted the previous way I wrote that?).
From the book:
"'With me! With Me!'
He charges, a sword in each hand, a wolfish smile on his face. And his fellow men follows him into the jaws of hell."
I'd say they did a pretty amazing job portraying this.
I love that the soldiers virtually show no fear in the chaos. After witnessing most of your fleet get destroyed without even taking off, they walk toward the hand-to-hand combat.
I remember watching this the first time at the movies … bagpipes blaring with Gurney’s heroic “WITH ME !” I got up ready to fight such a powerful scene
I've realized I would love to see Denis Villeneuve take on a Warhammer 40k movie. These visuals and shots in that universe would be amazing along with the scale we see in Dune. He probably has no idea what 40k is, but still an interesting idea. Also Josh Brolin would make one hell of a Space Marine!
Ah, 40K fan. Get out lmao.
It's not even the real Warhammer, it's a spin-off.
@@reidparker1848A what?
@@reidparker1848- no need for the homophobia
40k is cool. Fantasy Warhammer is cool too, it's all Warhammer and in the same canon
@@reidparker1848bruh
40K and AoS are too silly for a villeneuve film.
0:45 Has to be one of the most visually satisfying sci-fi battle sequences of all time.
'With me!'. So badass.
It's interesting to note that in the novels, the slow-moving bombs would not have worked. Holtzman shields actually only allow slow moving objects to pass through when tuned for it, and this is done for personal shielding because otherwise, the user would suffocate. They wouldn't be able to walk properly, or grasp objects either. There is also considerable visual distortion if I am not wrong, due to the shield interaction with photons.
However, large scale shielding used for vehicles (which are mostly hover-based or flight capable) and for buildings can have their own air recycling systems. So their shields are tuned to reject objects of any speed. The lynchpin of the Harkonnen attack is actually Doctor Yueh sabotaging the shields of the Atriedes compound.
That being said, I think it was a great decision to leave out this detail. Explaining to viewers that there are different types of shield settings is a bit dubious in a movie where there's already so much to absorb, and in our modern understanding of technology, industry and defense, it was plausible that one man could sabotage the entire defense of a stronghold back in 1965. Not quite so today, when we expect this level of scale and multi-layered defense.
The novel was written 50 years ago by one person, the author of the original book could afford some nonsense. The concept of a nuclear explosion when using laser weapons is also a bad crutch for the plot. Denis Villeneuve was able to remove the nonsense from the book, showing a more realistic picture of what was happening.
@@The.CombineThe thing with laser weapons causing nuclear explosions was because lasguns utilize the Holtzmann effect just like shields do. It's still handwavey and not scientifically solid, but it does at least explain why there would be interaction like that. It's the same technology, just a different application.
2:01 I just love that "come on you apes, you wanna live forever!?" energy eminating from Gurney Halleck as House Atreides makes their last stand
1:12 is an all time shot. The way it syncs with the music is just perfect.
At 1:48 there is a hint of the score from David Lynch’s Dune. A nice touch.
Yes there are several subtle references to Lynch's Dune, nice to see.
The bag pipes go so hard
House Atreides being wiped out in a single night is one of the most shocking and infuriating moments in cinema I have ever seen.
I will never forget this scene. I can say with pure honesty that this was the most incredible moment I've witnessed in cinema in my life. I was sitting in like, the 4th row in IMAX and the scale of these explosions and scenes shot at long camera focal lengths while I was in the front of this obscurely large screen really transported me there. It was bizarre how immersive it felt.
Love the last charge you can feel no regrets or fear just eager to charge into death and never stop fighting
I cant wait to see how they survive of course a idea but still seeing it
I think Gurney (josh Brolin) and his soldiers took a couple of those transports that landed in that fight
This scene just shows the loyalty and love house artreides has for their duke. Even when he was being betrayed his betrayer loved him.
The fall of Atreides so powerful can’t wait to see Gurney in Part 2
The bagpipes always give me chills
I do somewhat wish we had seen more of the battle, but understand that the runtime was already rather large, and that's just for part 1.
In the books, even in spite of the huge numbers of Harkonnen forces (The transport of which cost the Harkonnens a near inconceivable amount of funding), betrayal by Dr. Yueh and element of surprise, the disciplined forces of Atreides reap a huge toll against the enemy, but the deployment of Corrino's own Sardaukar finally tipped the scales.
I never read the book but thats awesome that they still held out for that long.
The Harkonnens had a severe skill issue. Besides, House Atreides came first and probably had a considerable headstart insofar as techniques and tactics were concerned. In the grand scheme of things, this little Harkonnen victory was achieved only because they had the blessings of Emperor Shaddam IV. Otherwise, fat chance the Baron could've retaken Arrakeen.
@@campfiresnlasguns Don't know what you mean by Atreides coming first. Both Atreides and Harkonnen date back to the founding of the Corrino Empire. As it was at the battle of Corrin that an Atreides forebear accused the Harkonnen's forebear of cowardice.
@@Hatypus Though it wasn't numerically specified by Frank Herbert, I recall there was a mention that House Atriedes was an older noble house than House Harkonnen. But you're right that both may've originated from the Corrino Empire since it's indeed the oldest.
and don't forget the harkonnen artillery guns. the big guns had been obsolete for who knows how long thanks to the shields, but on Dune shields weren't used due to the sandworms.
In Paul's vision scene of Duncan's death, with Duncan laying dead surrounded by dead Sardaukar, you see a wounded Sardaukar trying to crawl. There's a group of standing Sardaukar in the doorway motionless looking on. He failed, he can die. Not exactly a noble brotherhood.
Excellent filmaking.
Random Harkonen soldier 1: You guys hear bagpipes...?
Random Harkonen soldier 2: Ooooh shiiiiiit!!!
In the book baron send massive forces of their own... he spend 50 years of spice( estimation by one character ) profit for Space Guild to move his troops from Haronnen teritory, and even in total suprise and shadukar assist, Atriedes killed more than their number of attackers...
I haven’t read the books. Mind sharing the numbers of deaths both sides?
I think its 80 years bro
The visual effects are so well done, no wonder they won an oscar for it
2:37 They have the numbers
2:40 We have the skills
It really goes to show just how good at fighting the Atreides was. With the scene on the steps there is an army of harkonnen soldiers and way less atreides but the harkonnens still get destroyed until the sardukar show up from behind.
That’s the main reason the emperor wanted them dead. Not only were they growing in favor from the great houses but their legions were getting dangerously close to rivaling the sadukar legions
the fact that the harkonen needed help from the emperor's sardaukar just shows how strong the atredies are.
"FOR MY DUKE! AND MY FRIEND!"
2見た今考えたら、アトレイデスの兵士全員優秀すぎて草
I love the unified walk of, we know we're effd but we're taking you with us.
who's here after wathcing dune2? Paul really got his revenge brutally for his father and the fallen.
The slow falling bombs is an absolutely amazing detail to be added in the lore
The fact that Gurney wasnt holding a small pug when he ran into that space melee is almost criminal....
Just as important. In the books, the personal shield has eliminated projectile weapons from the battlefield and now muscle weapons dominate. Even projectiles fired from warbows, crossbows or slings cannot penetrate the shields. Now armies once again assemble into combat formations and engage in hand to hand combat using swords and daggers, What Herbert misses out in this plot twist, is that pikes, spears, halberds and other pole weapons also become effective again. Batter your enemy down to the ground with the axe head of the halberd and then slowly push the spear point through the field to finish him. It also meant that while camouflage remained important for skirmishers and scouts, the primary combat formations could be dressed in uniforms of colors. This is something the old SciFi mini-series gets right. In the book, Thufir Hawat is captured by Sardaukar coming from a cliff using grav belts and w/o shields depending on knife work to defeat the combined Atreides-Fremen force. They are specifically said to be wearing blue uniforms, not environmental suits. This combat is taking part inside the Shield Walls in that part of Arakis which IS NOT the deep desert. When the Sardaukar or Harkonens venture into the desert, they wear stillsuits like everyone else. In the last chapters before Paul's final defeat of the Sardaukar and Harkonens, he uses the people of the villages as shock troops because of their hatred produced by the Sardaukar grabbing whatever women they wanted and decorating their standards with the heads of any who objected. The point is that you don't need standards if you're not going to fight in formations.
I always wanted to be an extra in these type of scenes. Hell I'd even do it for free 😂
I love how Gurney don´t gave them any order, he just says: "With me" and then start running to the enemy
One thing that stands out is how much variation in technology there is between each element of warfare:
The heighliners are Uber futuristic, capable of supporting interstellar travel. The spaceship dropping below looks just as much, but the air bags look like something out of a 1950 sci-fi on how airdrops will work in the 2000s.
The ornithopters are also futuristic, but everything is forced into analog as computers are banned, and you see a control panel similar to a 60s chopper. The bombs are nothing crazy (no anti matter or nukes or anything), but easily passed through ships’ shields and detonate inside. The anti aircraft missiles look like something you would see right now in a ground to air defense system
And of course there is the one on one combat. Because technology advanced so much, people have to resort back to using swords and spears. And that is truly something amazes me in the movie’s design
Agreed. In spite of how much of an influence the Dune Novels had on the Sci Fi Genre that followed after it, this series still holds an identity to it that makes it unique compared to later Sci Fi settings like Star Wars or Star Trek by comparison. Not slagging them off by any means, but Dune has a lot going for it that other Sci Fi IPs don't.
It honestly would have been better to see the Atreides soldiers fight longer. According to the lore, they're supposed to be on par with the Sardaukar, but this bit makes em look like chumps.
Yes, that’s a bit of an annoying thing about this movie.
They are on par in open combat. Not during sneak attack with Harknonens also attacking.
Furthermore, this era of Sardaukar are of 'lower quality' as Corrino had using them to forcefully end any disagreements.
As such, they needed to recruit more.
This movie really should have been three hours long.
We all know why you keep going to 2:02 dont worry we are all charging too
The only way those cowards could beat House Atreides.
I love how before the Sardukar show up you get a brief moment of relief when Gurney charges the harkonen ships get shot down the bipes blare, thinking oh we might win this then we see the gaurds holding the Line up until the sardukar show up. Excellent movie making
House Atreides stood its ground even at this severe a disadvantage. Their bravery deserves recognition.
And the Atreides name lives for the next foreseeable millennias
How is starts: This video.
How it ends: Sex Queens and Cat people…
And after the books you’re not sure if that’s even a good thing lol, but things definitely become much stranger
Imagine, Gurnie survives the skirmish with all his troops intact. Becomes a leader of renegades whom prey on Harkonnen until Paul finds him and recognizes him. Glorious reunion awaits...
I thought he hooked up with smugglers
@emilmlodnicki3835 If memory serves, it was a mix of Atreides survivors that became smugglers.
As the months went by with no indication that Paul was alive or Atreides reinforcements were coming, the survivors used their smuggling money to get off world and most went home. Gurney refused to leave.
Ha , that exactly happens on dune 2 lol.
Rewatching this just before Part II to enjoy the payback even more.
The clever design touches, like the anti-ship bombs slowing so they could penetrate shields. Masterful.
LONG LIVE DUKE LETO!!!!!..... I wish I would have heard those words during this scene.
None of the Atreides soldiers on the steps seemed to die to particularly slow sword strikes.
"You Killed My Duke"- Gurney Halleck
2:02 That moment when the pipes kick in, though... 👌
The fact most of the atreides Army wasn't even armored makes thay final charge even more epic
They would have had personal shields. Not really enough, but still a big chunk of what would be expected.
2:00 nice touch. yelling while charging the attackers shows how scared the soldiers were. in contrast, the Atreides protecting the palace were the best fighters that didn't need to pump themselves up like that. same with the sarduakar
They had their own way of hyping themselves up.
They did that “300-spartan-formation-chant” while advancing down the steps, for cadence and would also work for motivation.
Not to mention, they shouted the Atreides name at the beginning. You’re not going to tell me that’s just for niceties and pleasantries.
@@steverogers7601 of course they did. in a much more COMPOSED way. why would you think I meant they didn't?
I said "...didn't need to pump themselves up like that", "that" being the DISORGANIZED yelling by the dudes on the airfield. I didn't say they were in total silence, did I?
plus, I genuinely LOLed when I saw you say "...would also work for motivation", you're not going to tell that they still needed to be motivated to fight for their lives.
@@laimejannister5627 You come off as one of those types that just likes to suck the fun out of the room. GG I guess, lol
@@laimejannister5627 bro why are you taking this so personally lol
@@willo0x433 listen, you seem to be a nice lady, but I don't remember me ever taking anything on ytb personally. If this seems too personal for you then maybe internet is just not for you.
Wish we got to see more of the scrap between Gurney and the boys on that airfield
2:41 That part just so disciplined and noble 💯
2:02, With me! ⚔️ 🗡️
Atreideis soldier with common sense : Stop the invasion now or we will just use lasers and we will all go down in a nuclear explosion
Saradukar: Random throats singing
Baron : So turned that the Atreiedites would rather die and take our troops with them then simply die . Who knew ? Anyway all our troops are dead and our HQ is a nuclear crater so spice production will be disrupted for years
Emperor ; wtf?!?
Director : I want music that invoked the desire to rule the universe...
Composer : I got you fam!
Words cannot describe how powerful this scene felt in the cinema
Imagine If the atradies forces were doing some kind of military exercise that night with all their military equipment as if they were about to do a military battle and then Harkonnen show up and get massacred.
Harkonens don't even have time to scream, and the Sardukar get ripped to shreds just as badly.
Let's see if I understood this scene correctly...
The Atreides take the rich spice planet from their enemies, the Harkonnen. The Harkonnens leave spies and saboteurs on the planet with the task, among other things, of killing Paul Atreides.
In the evening everyone goes to sleep peacefully and no Atreides thinks of keeping guard or leaving at least some ships to guard the planet.
Meanwhile, a single man, the traitor, manages to dismantle all the defenses of the planet which are protected by the guard of only 3 soldiers. He kills them and finds the electrical socket which turns off all the planet's defenses because there are no uninterruptible power supplies or alternative security systems that come into operation in the event of a malfunction of the main one.
And when the defenses completely shut down, no one notices because everyone is sleeping and it must be Duke Letho who wakes up and notices that the entire city is shut down. He tries to raise the alarm but it's late because the WHOLE fleet is asleep.
Did I get it right?
yeah, it's a pretty big plothole. makes no sense that a society as powerful as the atreides could be taken down so easily. i mean, they put up a fight and all but realistically since they were expecting some sort of attack/raid by the harkonnen they should've had entire companies( whatever the atreides equivalent is) on watch as well as a 24/7 air defence team.
They expected a raid not a full fleged invasion
No you miss the point where they didn't take the planet, they were tasked to go there by the emperor who wants them dead and only run one city. The planet offers little in way of communication or much defense since too much shielding might get the sandworm and the climate incredibly harsh for the atreides who aren't accustomed to it. They have been moved in for a week just so they can get butchered in the dark
Yeah, I didn’t really like how weak the Atreides were shown as despite how competent they were made out to be.
We are talking here about a scale of attack that should have been, in the estimation of Atreides intelligence, impossible. The sheer cost of bringing a force such as this to bear is astronomical, and they also had the unprecedented (and highly covert) support of the Emperor himself and his elite army. It was unthinkable for the Emperor to side with one of the great houses to wipe out another in this manner as it could throw the entire universe into civil war if it was to be discovered by the other houses of the Lansraad.
Also, Doctor Yueh was a practitioner of the Suk school, which means he underwent a very thorough process called Imperial Conditioning, which was widely believed to be unbreakable, that prevented Suk doctors from taking another human life. The Harkonnens discovered a way to subvert it in Dr Yueh's case. This is another aspect of the plan that the Atrieides would have believed to be impossible. They were expecting raids, small-scale sabotage, and other hindrances from the Harkonnens, but never a full scale assault.
The defences Dr Yueh disabled were the shields of the keep the Atreides family lived in, and its communication coverage.
This movie perfectly encapsulated one of the greatest shames - we get very little time with House Atreides. We get just enough to see how badass they are but it feels like they are taken from us far too soon.
I'm fine with that, we get enough and they are cool, unlike in the 1984 version where there's too much Atreides stuff for how fcking boring they are portrayed in that version, just the most vanilla good guys from sci fi
@@blueshit199 Yeah I absolutely agree, Villeneuve doesn't overindulge and as a result it feels like a tragedy. We're left wanting more but it cannot be because of how quickly the Harkonnen strike happens.
You get a glimpse at the House so you don't notice any flaws of one. Then, after you lose the House it feels like absolute tragedy. Otherwise you would notice that Atreides are not ideal and it would belittle the tragedy of their loss. For instance, in the book Duke Leto describes assassins' work and how it is important to have spies (which can not be considered noble). Moreover, Atreides suspect Lady Jessiaca to be Harkonnen's agent and interrogate her.
I love that this scene was kept and shown because there wasn't much description of the fighting in the book, you just see corpses when Jessica is dragged on the floor after being drugged, also Duncan mentions some fighting, Hawat speaks a bit of the tragedy when he's in the caves with some survivors but nothing much. Gurney speaks of his 74...then 73 remaining soldiers but the fighting is only implied and never depicted as such in the book, even Duncan's last stand isn't mentioned. It is said that he gave his life for Paul/Jessica and Liet to escape and tell of the treason.
I like this very scene with Gurney rallying his men. It is implied in the book that he's a leader of men, that he's a survivor among the fittest who adapted many times to desperate situations and that he was trained by the very best, and made it through where many had died.
Leto saved him from a life in the fighting pits as a gladiator for the Harkonnen and he gave him his undying friendship, which is why Halleck was ready to repay this debt and beyond for the rest of his life.
I love this scene because Gurney, against all odds, was prepared to keep his word and do everything in his power to turn the tide. Besides, he knew how the Harkonnens treated their prisoners and prefered to die proudly on his feet rather than kneel like slaves, begging for mercy.