The Paris Olympic Pool is Heated by the Internet

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 510

  • @ThoughtFission
    @ThoughtFission Před měsícem +998

    I ran the organisation at Sun Mricrosystems responsible for designing and building innovative, green, data centers. We were about 15-20 years ahead of our time and as a result the market just wasn't ready to accept these ideas. I am so happy to see this sort of thing now get get traction. I really wish I could still be involved. It's something the world deintely needs!

    • @rurathn5534
      @rurathn5534 Před měsícem +22

      there is no such thing as „green buildings“ or „green data centers“

    • @mpokoraa
      @mpokoraa Před měsícem +2

      lies

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack Před měsícem

      ​@@rurathn5534 Ah you are obviously superior, because you absolutely didn't use some electronic device and the internet to watch and comment this video.
      Obviously there are data centers that are more sustainable than others when they're using electricity from renewable sources and try to recover as much of the byproduct heat as possible.
      Every fucking thing will have an ecological footprint. Even we'd go back to living like cavemen.
      So what's wrong with trying to reduce the ecological footprints of things that exist and are needed anyway.

    • @Harry_Gersack
      @Harry_Gersack Před měsícem +5

      @ThoughtFission Are you knowledgeable about this?
      Because I'm confused about the 30°C of the water. I thought it would be much more like 50°C considering the temperatures computers can reach.
      I'm not familiar with data centers, but considering most PC's are running at like 55°C at least, I thought it would be no problem to reach water temperatures of 45 - 50°C.
      Do the computers in data centers run at lower temperatures?
      Or does this process have this much heat loss because they are using air cooled computers and a heat exchanger?
      If it's the second: why aren't they using watercooled computers?

    • @HappyAccidentx
      @HappyAccidentx Před měsícem +5

      @@Harry_Gersack ​ Watercooled is more expensive and has the non zero chance of leaking.

  • @Hiro_Trevelyan
    @Hiro_Trevelyan Před měsícem +348

    It's important to note that this data center is not "in the middle of Paris" but in its poorest, most difficult suburb. The fact that they share the food with the local struggling community is really important and cool from them

    • @deniskhafizov6827
      @deniskhafizov6827 Před měsícem +7

      Yeah, the perfect way for that community to get used to take the veggies for granted.

    • @christopherbedford9897
      @christopherbedford9897 Před měsícem +5

      really important... for the optics yes.

    • @florencejessup2432
      @florencejessup2432 Před měsícem +11

      @@deniskhafizov6827 Is there a problem with this? It would be wonderful if everyone could rely on having quality food.

    • @ROBLOXGamingDavid
      @ROBLOXGamingDavid Před měsícem +1

      @@florencejessup2432 Normally it isnt, but for those disillusioned with life (isolated from the benefits of the city), seeing this, it looks as if this is meant for the optics.

    • @deniskhafizov6827
      @deniskhafizov6827 Před měsícem

      @@florencejessup2432 Oops, I see my previous detailed, informative and exceptionally polite reply had disappeared somehow. Looks like I have to repeat it, but this time imma shorten it a bit to:
      NO WONDER LE PEN IS WINNING!

  • @politrzysta
    @politrzysta Před měsícem +207

    In Munich there's a bus depot that has chargers for electric buses. The heat from the chargers is used to heat the building.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +26

      Wow, that’s so cool! What’s it called?

    • @cyrilio
      @cyrilio Před měsícem +15

      @@TheB1M Hybrid-M designed by JSWD Architekten

    • @kovy689
      @kovy689 Před měsícem +3

      @@TheB1M By any chance, did you get harassed by the illegal migrants during your time in Paris?

    • @deniskhafizov6827
      @deniskhafizov6827 Před měsícem

      In Moscow there is a subway that runs electric commuter trains. It never used any specialized equipment hor heating, all the heat coms from the trains and other electric equipment, even during the coldest winters. Actually Moscow subway is usually suffering from the opposite problem - how to get all the excess heat out.

    • @zukacs
      @zukacs Před měsícem +2

      @@deniskhafizov6827London subway has the same problem. Each year the underground is getting hotter and hotter because they cannot vent all the heat from braking and people

  • @haavardroed
    @haavardroed Před měsícem +39

    Man at 2:10 when he said he had to explain how the internett works, i was certain he was going to say someone was stealing my data and i had to buy a vpn 😂

  • @ChaseL25
    @ChaseL25 Před měsícem +416

    Speaking of construction… need to know Fred’s workout routine for that build

    • @ManTeera
      @ManTeera Před měsícem +22

      😂😂😂 noticed it too

    • @Lif3tec
      @Lif3tec Před měsícem +16

      Our boy is looking GOOOOD, love to see how far this channel has grown!

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +113

      Haha, thanks. The routine is called “dedication”

    • @cjadventures8840
      @cjadventures8840 Před měsícem +7

      @@TheB1MYou look great, keep it up.

    • @christopherbedford9897
      @christopherbedford9897 Před měsícem +2

      @@TheB1M Haha yes, also being 25 years old

  • @b_uppy
    @b_uppy Před měsícem +55

    We have a local pool thats too cool. It needs a data center.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +14

      Haha, call Equinix 🙌

    • @ibrahim-sj2cr
      @ibrahim-sj2cr Před měsícem +1

      in the UK some swimming pools are heated this way

    • @Super_ATI
      @Super_ATI Před 6 dny +1

      Play Cyber punk next to it on a 2010 laptop, that should help

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy Před 6 dny

      @@Super_ATI 😅😅😅

  • @baystated
    @baystated Před měsícem +98

    No one explained how the server farm "grows" plants and vegetables, except that it provides space, which any flat roof in Paris can do. Greenhouses have worked without non-solar heat sources for centuries.

    • @John...44...
      @John...44... Před měsícem +26

      Yeh its nothing to do with the data center, excpt from providing abit of heat. Nothing wrong with growing plants on top of data centers, but i think its more about looking green with this...

    • @deniskhafizov6827
      @deniskhafizov6827 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@John...44...Actually, the air conditioning system can also provide a decent amount of condensed water.

    • @GrumpyWolfTech
      @GrumpyWolfTech Před měsícem +3

      Exactly, pretty sure it's the sun causing the plants to grow, not the heat from the data center.

    • @andrelam9898
      @andrelam9898 Před měsícem +22

      Fall through Spring, Paris is anywhere from cool to cold. Winters are cloudy. A green house won't stay in a range that is good for plants growing without external heat. That is where the server farm comes in. Excess heat keeps the green house at the temps needed for these plants. I would venture it cannot drop below 20C / 75F for any long period of time if you want plants to grow. With outside temps being anywhere cool to freezing at least 8 months out of the year, that extra heat really helps.

    • @MartijnPennings
      @MartijnPennings Před měsícem +8

      This whole video smells of so much greenwashing. Putting a few strawberries on top of a data center doesn't make it green. It's good that the excess heat is used, but that doesn't make anything "green". The only way to call "green" is to use less data, so that the data center is not needed.

  • @EdinMike
    @EdinMike Před měsícem +91

    Stade de France is an achievement in itself, a stadium that still feels modern almost 30 years after being built.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +20

      Agreed, it’s a great venue 🇫🇷

    • @kovy689
      @kovy689 Před měsícem +3

      @@TheB1M By any chance, did you get harassed by the illegal migrants during your time in Paris?

    • @misterscottintheway
      @misterscottintheway Před měsícem

      ​@@kovy689 haha wtf. Are you joking or just a dick

    • @stanyamish3996
      @stanyamish3996 Před měsícem +2

      I'm French. In France, this stadium divides sports fans. For me, it's not that great but it's building its soul by hosting World cup finals in football and rugby, concerts, various football and rugby games and now, the Olympics.

    • @lennyvalentin6485
      @lennyvalentin6485 Před měsícem +17

      @@kovy689 Hey Ivan, go home - you're drunk!

  • @TheCoastalAVENGER
    @TheCoastalAVENGER Před měsícem +31

    Anytime you can take a waste by-product (in this case heat) and make it a usable product in of it's own to help meet the demands of a community, that's a win-win for everyone.

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 Před 16 dny +1

      Sometimes it is. Everything can be reused, but very little is because it isn’t a win-win. It’s a win lose or a lose-lose. Plastic bottles can be fairly easily recycled, but it costs more money to handle them from bin to bottle than to produce virgin plastic. Not a win-win. Rinse repeat a million times over.

  • @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
    @TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs Před měsícem +84

    It seems like a no brainier to heat up pools with waste heat of a server farm. So many kWhs of energy wasted in heat from the servers so capturing that heat and warming up a large body of water is awesome :D

    • @MrGoesBoom
      @MrGoesBoom Před měsícem +2

      one way of water cooling

  • @henrybrandt1057
    @henrybrandt1057 Před měsícem +76

    If memory serves me correctly, half a century ago Grumman Data Systems used waste heat from it's main datacenter in NY to heat the building. The concept has been around for decades.

    • @i-love-comountains3850
      @i-love-comountains3850 Před měsícem +7

      Sun Microsystems were also pioneers in this concept.

    • @robertmusil1107
      @robertmusil1107 Před měsícem +3

      It wasn't financially viable. This stuff is only viable because politics decided to subsidize it. Like most of the "green" stuff. "Energy efficient" constructions are subsidized in most countries. I'm pretty sure they also made a big exception for this to advertise it... like in this video.

    • @nicolasblume1046
      @nicolasblume1046 Před měsícem

      Why would this be expensive? The heat is basically "free", so this is actually cheaper than conventional heating ​@@robertmusil1107

    • @deniskhafizov6827
      @deniskhafizov6827 Před měsícem

      Half a century ago? Like a datacenter on vacuum tubes? Well, that could easily work producing the 60°C air or even hotter. Unlike the modern microchips.

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před měsícem

      @@deniskhafizov6827 Maybe you guys still used vacuum tubes in the 70's but the west had long since moved over to "modern microchips".

  • @vought19
    @vought19 Před měsícem +181

    W hen its cold my PC keeps me warm instead of house heater. So i guess thats super green now?

    • @llamingo696
      @llamingo696 Před měsícem +8

      Yes

    • @KingLuis1985
      @KingLuis1985 Před měsícem +15

      yes. you are using your pc to entertain/work and to heat your home. you are using it to do 2 things and save energy versus turning on your heater. if you can use a single thing to do multiple things, you are being efficient. and efficiency = green by modern day standards. it's a dumb term (calling things green) but it's catchy and doesn't fully piss off environmentalists.

    • @coreyhipps7483
      @coreyhipps7483 Před měsícem +5

      It's not necessarily the most energy efficient.
      Generally speaking a computer is not a particularly efficient heater.
      That said, it does produce waste heat.
      If that waste heat is then captured and put to use (i.e. warming your room) then this is net more efficient than blowing all that heat outside and then heating your house without using the waste heat.
      All that said, if you're not using your computer it probably shouldn't be on.

    • @liamness
      @liamness Před měsícem +4

      I don't have a gas supply to my flat, so running something intensive on my PC is literally the same in efficiency / cost terms as turning on my radiator.

    • @silverXnoise
      @silverXnoise Před měsícem

      Thank you for _your_ service.

  • @neilrmcd
    @neilrmcd Před měsícem +18

    This is already being done at Exmouth Leisure Centre. It's a great idea. I hope we see more of it around the UK.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem

      That’s cool, what’s the heat being used for there?

  • @arrjay2410
    @arrjay2410 Před měsícem +57

    I find it interesting that a contemporary Data Centre is using a heat exchange system that would not be unfamiliar to someone from the Roman Empire.

    • @jillybe1873
      @jillybe1873 Před měsícem +1

      Or ancient Syria

    • @anarfox
      @anarfox Před měsícem +8

      Physics works the same today as it did then.

    • @szurketaltos2693
      @szurketaltos2693 Před měsícem +4

      Our ancestors were just as clever as us. Shoulders of giants and all that.

    • @MrDavidkaplan
      @MrDavidkaplan Před měsícem +1

      @@jillybe1873 Ancient Syria was part of the Roman Eempire. That's why they don't have lions nowadays, all hunted to participate in "games".

  • @brIceni-x4w
    @brIceni-x4w Před měsícem +4

    A few of us in the PC building community have been using aquariums to cool our CPU & GPU's for over 25 years. It's quite a simple system. Coolant is pumped around a closed system of pipes and reservoirs inside the PC and a radiator, During the coolants transit it flows over hot plates that sink heat away from the hot semi-conductors. The radiator inside the aquarium dumps the heat into the water, viola.

  • @LeeHarris
    @LeeHarris Před měsícem +8

    So, you took a byte out of the strawberry?.... I'll get my coat...

  • @vrisovooruit
    @vrisovooruit Před měsícem +6

    Super good use of excess heat coming from the datacenters! But let's not forget that power demand from datacenters (even though most is green) is expected to rise to 30% of ALL electricity consumption by 2050! That it is an enormous amount of additional energy that needs to be produced which even when sourced through renewables will have a massive impact on our climate due to the materials needed for energy production. The real solution NEEDS to be energy efficiency measure as well.

  • @cakeisalie
    @cakeisalie Před měsícem +82

    so the data center only outputs 30C water.. the service provider still needs to raise it to 60C
    but I see how that will significantly reduce heating costs

    • @Bremend
      @Bremend Před měsícem +8

      It really depends on the initial temperature of the water...

    • @Mira-bt3zx
      @Mira-bt3zx Před měsícem +37

      If the water starts out at 20c, that means the datacenter is reducing the service provider’s energy consumption by 25% using energy that was already being used. That sounds like a win to me.

    • @DuffyGabi
      @DuffyGabi Před měsícem +14

      Clearly you don’t understand how heat recovery systems work.

    • @felixstg1
      @felixstg1 Před měsícem +13

      that's where heat pumps are used. boilers are a thing of the past and will be phased out in favor of industrial heat pumps in the future

    • @cakeisalie
      @cakeisalie Před měsícem +4

      @@DuffyGabi my concluding statement was positive, how does that paint me as ignorant?
      unless you misread my comment

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Před měsícem +3

    In 1987 I worked in Unilever house on the banks of the Thames. My role was to calibrate and maintain the temperature and humidity controllers and recording instruments. The whole top floor was full of huge main frames and data storage disks. The fire system was an inert gas that would kill you if you stayed inside the room if it went off. Every door had a warning sign telling you if the alarm went off you had 30 seconds to get out. It was a very different environment from growing fruit.🤣 great video 👍

  • @tenalafel
    @tenalafel Před měsícem +12

    I never visited PA10... now I visited PA4/5/6/8x on a semim regular basis when my employer had equipment there. ( the most interesting was PA4/8x when the 8x bit was being built )
    They must have taken the opportunity to build a new one somewhere around PA2 oand named it PA10.

  • @TVJAY
    @TVJAY Před měsícem +4

    This Old House featured a HVAC system heating a swimming pool like 5 or 6 years ago. Very nice and energy efficient setup.

    • @Yay295
      @Yay295 Před měsícem +2

      Linus from LTT's new house also does this.

  • @jonathanevans9257
    @jonathanevans9257 Před měsícem +2

    Interesting that the heating company raise the temperature from 30-60 deg C. Immersion cooling (putting servers in a liquid bath) of servers would provide higher water temperatures from the data center when it is adopted. Great video our sector needs all the good PR we can get! T.Loop are doing similar work in Stockholm

  • @DavidS5118
    @DavidS5118 Před měsícem +21

    What a great model of funneling the endless heat created by server farms to support the heating of other facilities.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +4

      It's amazing right? We should do this everywhere.

    • @DavidS5118
      @DavidS5118 Před měsícem +3

      @@TheB1M Really seems like a no brainer and win win for the location. I am sure the engineering costs are high to start with but I suspect they recoup it quickly and that we are not just funneling all the heat into the open air is the big winner.

    • @nicodesmidt4034
      @nicodesmidt4034 Před měsícem +2

      @@TheB1Mmaybe we should build these data centers more up north, where there is a need for that heat.

  • @rapidthrash1964
    @rapidthrash1964 Před měsícem +4

    That is a lot of heat; great way to make use of it

  • @kekool9569
    @kekool9569 Před měsícem +2

    I worked there during building and im so proud of

  • @panzerveps
    @panzerveps Před měsícem +1

    I remember reading about a guy who back in the mid 2000s hooked his water cooled computer to the heated bathroom floor.
    He then had a program that did calculations to generate the heat needed to warm the water for his heated floor.

  • @GeekyMedia
    @GeekyMedia Před měsícem +2

    Superb video and a glimpse into how cities and towns could work in the future - surely, this kinda thing is only going to grow with the popularity of online gaming, streaming, cloud computing, etc. I love when Fred and the team are on-site. Thanks B1M team.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem

      You’re welcome! Thanks for the great feedback and thanks for watching!

  • @fscarp
    @fscarp Před měsícem +2

    I’d like to know more about how the 30 degree water gets to 60 degrees. There was a brief mention of an energy company and no other detail provided. This seems too important to gloss over.

  • @samz5341
    @samz5341 Před měsícem +2

    Can The BM1 crew make a video on how Fred built his massive arms? Asking for a friend

  • @ludwig2345
    @ludwig2345 Před měsícem +2

    Pretty sure at least some of the datacenters in Stockholm contribute to the district heating.
    We also have district cooling but that's mostly for datacentera and maybe other large buildings that need lots of cooling. The datacenters at work and the entire building is actually cooled by district cooling.
    If I recall correctly it works by pumping water underneath the sea and back up it again when it's cooled.
    I don't think we specifically, export our heat. We have quite a few of smaller datacenters in our building but we are not THAT large scale.

  • @DunnickFayuro
    @DunnickFayuro Před měsícem +1

    France also has Qarnot, who kinda move the datacenters inside people's houses to heat them up. They basically crammed as many GPUs they could into a radiator and use their heat to warm up the space. They sell the computing power to various customers and even pay the heating bills for the home owners.

  • @aslam7952
    @aslam7952 Před 23 dny

    Building data centres next to swimming pools, what a brilliant idea.

  • @WolfandCatUnite
    @WolfandCatUnite Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for showing real solutions to the real problems. Dont stop

  • @kuunib7325
    @kuunib7325 Před 25 dny

    I think this is really cool. I visited EWB's main facility in Bern a bit ago. EWB is the company responsible for energy and water but also runs a trash inscinerator in Bern. Anyways they do also capture the heat form the burning trash and distribute it back into the city for heating buildings. Their largest costumer of heat and steam actually is the Insel Hospital one of the largest in Switzerland. It's really cool that we don't just dump the heat into the atmosphere or try to get rid of it with AC but actually put it to good use since it's actually a useful form of energy.

  • @RattledPan
    @RattledPan Před měsícem +1

    I like that last bit, Fred. If we are drooling on ourself from binge watching ALL of the NCIS shows on the internet, we can slobber even more knowing we are heating our homes by the heat of the data servers, thus becoming a bowl of tepid oatmeal for the greater computing good of the nation and the world. And watch B1M, lol! Priceless bud, and a great show. Seriously, this is such a simple solution (relativity)! I would assume that the same principles could be used for heat inverters to cool area, too, or am I being silly again? Love having you pack us around for your aventures, Fred. As you know there is a certain amount of overkill in the large project big builds on CZcams. What you and your team can stand tall about, is consistent great work. Few know what it takes to make one of your videos which might be the impetus to do a behind the scenes of what it takes to do a show. We know what you see through one side of your cameras. Give us a peak at the other side of your cameras sometime, eh?

  • @george_davituri
    @george_davituri Před měsícem +1

    so cool, from data center till heating and even growing vegetable on top of the building, interesting project never seen something like that.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah it was pretty incredible to go inside

  • @devonbremer4348
    @devonbremer4348 Před měsícem +3

    To the marketing folks at Equinix i hope you see this - well done reaching out to a fantastic channel like B1M and embracing this medium to tell your great story.

  • @Chaotic_Pixie
    @Chaotic_Pixie Před 21 dnem

    As a US citizen, the land of the big box store, I’ve long advocated for their roofs being used as solar farms & even their parking lots being covered with solar farms. How amazing would it be to also convert some to roof top greenhouses. I’d not considered it. But dang, I absolutely adore the idea of harnessing the heat exchange of internet servers & data farms. They take SO MUCH from the grid… it’s about time they give back. I just wish the US had a few more socially minded programs so that the government could fund such solar farms & what not… the stores get to keep what they need to operate their facilities & the rest gets put back into the grid to reduce or eliminate the bills of society’s most struggling citizens. It’s just not safe to live where I do without AC… but my tiny two bed apartment can cost $300 to air condition in the summer! I can’t imagine trying to swing that and be a family with kids living on what we do, much less living on less than what we do as a couple without kids.

  • @maxmike181
    @maxmike181 Před měsícem +2

    Seems like some efficiency would easily be gained by liquid cooling the servers and then using liquid-to-liquid heat exchangers

  • @Nikkiflausch
    @Nikkiflausch Před 29 dny

    Industry heat is starting to get used as a source for district heating in Hamburg too. Really glad humanity's starting to work with its own waste.

  • @user-dt5nj3uk2s
    @user-dt5nj3uk2s Před měsícem +3

    Super interesting video about a subject I did not know much about! Great work B1M. I look forward to your videos all week!

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem

      Thanks so much for watching!! We love feedback like this 🔥

  • @BobbyStef
    @BobbyStef Před měsícem +1

    This is great to see info publicly about data centers

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +1

      It was such a privilege to get to film inside.

    • @johnthomas2970
      @johnthomas2970 Před měsícem

      ⁠​⁠@@TheB1M maybe another video on data centres with NextDC in Australia? 😏

  • @PekPiu
    @PekPiu Před měsícem +1

    So, that was invented in the early 1960s, specially in Finland. It has been in use since then. But if you really think "that is something so new", well.... All of the city areas use district heating, and some buildings have district cooling as well.

  • @Marcyl13x
    @Marcyl13x Před 24 dny

    I just realised that the video's title says ''Heated by the Internet'' and not ''Hated by the Internet'' LMAO

  • @PROVOCATEURSK
    @PROVOCATEURSK Před měsícem +1

    I thought the title was "How the internet is hating Paris" and I was like why wouldn´t they?

  • @Ant86744
    @Ant86744 Před měsícem

    I worked for a company that built the servers for Amazon and google etc. in the testing area we used a lot of energy cooling the area down. I always wondered why we never redirected the heat to the surrounding buildings in the winter rather than using the other heating sources. I even proposed to introduce / look at ways of doing this

  • @timr.2257
    @timr.2257 Před měsícem +44

    Did he really just hid the comment calling out on his clickbait title? 🙄

    • @Metranomix
      @Metranomix Před měsícem

      Lil bro here trying to get attention. 🤡 Grow up and move on.

    • @yousuff1
      @yousuff1 Před měsícem +9

      All CZcamsrs are stuck with stupid thumbnails and titles thanks to youtube's algorithm. Some tech channels have covered this problem already.
      I don't blame him, at least it's good content.

    • @darrengreen7906
      @darrengreen7906 Před měsícem +1

      What clickbait?? none here.

    • @thedethrocker8858
      @thedethrocker8858 Před měsícem +1

      It's not a big deal 😂😂😂it's what happens on here...alot

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před měsícem

      *hide

  • @arctica5193
    @arctica5193 Před měsícem

    That is pretty clever thinking. I remember a new built power station in my hometown (normally supplying 500+ MW to european grid system) has a heat branch off installed to supply 50MW worth heating & warm water for local households.
    Workers from there said, the boiler ran better, when the branch off was activated to increase the base load.
    Now the plant sits cold for most of the year, cause their energy production has been taken over by offshore wind.

  • @pmdaguet
    @pmdaguet Před měsícem

    The swimming pool has an inward curve to reduce roof height in the middle of the building therefore reducing significantly the volume of air to be heated

  • @NoHandleToSpeakOf
    @NoHandleToSpeakOf Před měsícem +13

    Un-guilt tripping you: delivering streaming video is the least heat generating activity of data center. Data storage and transfer draws little power. Doing massive compute such as NN training or inference does make heat very well though.

    • @BlueBetaPro
      @BlueBetaPro Před měsícem +1

      This is almost the IT equivalent of saying a kilogram of steel is heavier than a kilogram of feathers. If a server is being utilized 100% it doesn't matter what it's being utilized for it will generate the same amount of heat with the same amount of power even if one server can handle a lot more concurrent users than the other, and NN training isn't even a user facing activity.

    • @gabrielfkrk
      @gabrielfkrk Před 15 dny

      ​​@@BlueBetaPro the point was, I believe, that streaming will never utilize 100% of servers' CPUs. Therefore most of the heat will be generated as a result of NN training and other computation-heavy tasks
      But I don't think it matters anyway in the context of this video

    • @BlueBetaPro
      @BlueBetaPro Před 15 dny

      ​@@gabrielfkrk "streaming will never utilize 100% of servers CPUs" Why do you belive this, it's just wrong, of course it can. If you have spare capacity you need less servers to do the same job.

    • @gabrielfkrk
      @gabrielfkrk Před 15 dny

      @@BlueBetaPro it's a different kind of capacity. Streaming requires a lot of I/O - reading from storage, sending through the network card. That leaves a CPU mostly idle. That CPU capacity would be used by CPU-intensive workloads (e.g. scientific computations)

    • @BlueBetaPro
      @BlueBetaPro Před 15 dny

      @@gabrielfkrk If it's a storage server with 50+ drives then your statement is suddenly not true anymore because it's hardware designed for that specific purpose and will likely have a CPU with the capacity for exactly that task. A data center is going to use the configuration that wastes the least amount of resources and money for their task. Maybe your scenario is true for a smaller private network or something that needs an inordinate amount of flexibility, the bigger and more specific the needs of a data center the more efficient they are likely going to be with their resources. Wasted capacity is wasted money that's why services like AWS and Google Cloud are popular because it allows you to only pay for used capacity. And if your server is doing anything else than just transferering data like HTTPS encryption, encoding or anything else custom like an actual in prod application will have then it'll use even more capacity. You just can not point blank say that without specifics, especially at scale. Please do not reply with more nonsense, or like at all.

  • @Jerem44B
    @Jerem44B Před měsícem +2

    Saint-Denis is not a district in Paris, it's a city on its own.

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +2

      Our apologies

  • @guynxtdork
    @guynxtdork Před měsícem +1

    Thank you Michael for this great content.

  • @elliottharley1386
    @elliottharley1386 Před měsícem +1

    Always fascinating and information, thank you 😊

  • @stephendelvaille4233
    @stephendelvaille4233 Před měsícem +2

    Congratulations to the B1M team, you guys built a truly remarkable channel! Excelsior

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem

      Thank you so much.

  • @drone-time
    @drone-time Před 13 dny

    Great video! I swear, I was paying attention to the entire video, but I admit, I did stop the video at 8:04. My mind has become so accustomed to people with a British accent calling chips "crisps" that hearing you say chips caused my brain to stop. I had to tell myself "chips meaning microchips" and replay that bit. lolz

  • @ivanthetj
    @ivanthetj Před měsícem

    Would love more big datacenter content, lots to explore and it is (now) critical infrastructure

  • @theWSt
    @theWSt Před měsícem

    Not wasting but reusing heat from servers is so smart, I love it! 😍 The future is now. 😎

  • @Petriefied0246
    @Petriefied0246 Před měsícem +2

    Out of curiosity, if there's excessive heat, such as the middle of summer and nobody has their heating on, would a Stirling engine be a viable way to recapture the energy?

  • @NawDawgTheRazor
    @NawDawgTheRazor Před měsícem +1

    Absolutely brilliant!

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks! Pretty amazing building right?

    • @NawDawgTheRazor
      @NawDawgTheRazor Před měsícem

      @@TheB1M super amazing, this should be replicated, who doesn’t love efficiency!

  • @hagemann1
    @hagemann1 Před měsícem

    It is worth to remember that the source of the heat is electricity. The electricity has to be generated reliably and stable 24 hours per day.

  • @MikeHarris1984
    @MikeHarris1984 Před měsícem +1

    Places like phoenix arizona where we have ovwer 100° temps more then half the year, heat homes is not an issue. Due to our lack of natural disasters here, there are a lot of major data centers built here, both private data centers for corporations and enterprises in government data centers and then colo data centers as well. It would be awesome if that he could be transferred back into power to power our grid. I know there is a lot of conversion loss but it's a whole lot less than just dumping the heat into the air.

  • @stanyamish3996
    @stanyamish3996 Před měsícem

    I live near the Olympic pool and the Olympic village.
    I guess by watching this video near the pool, I'm contributing to the Olympics. I guess it's great.

  • @ejazansari7098
    @ejazansari7098 Před měsícem

    I'm interested in knowing the chemical proportions in those veggies. It's important that there's thorough research on it.

  • @rusty3493
    @rusty3493 Před měsícem +1

    Really cool video! Similar to how Linus is using his server to heat his pool and use his pool to cool his server

    • @TheViettan28
      @TheViettan28 Před měsícem

      But he failed. That's more like a comedy.

  • @Firzenizer
    @Firzenizer Před měsícem

    Nice to see stuff like this spreading elsewhere now. This has been common practice in Nordic countries for years.

  • @twitertaker
    @twitertaker Před měsícem +1

    A part my universty in Dresden is heated by the nearby universities own data processing center.

  • @KyrilPG
    @KyrilPG Před měsícem

    Great!
    There's also an urban air conditioning system using the Seine river's water.
    Fred, now that you are / were in Paris, did you visit Grand Paris Express building sites?
    Or at least the very recently opened Saint-Denis Pleyel new transit hub that 3 of the 4 new GPE lines will serve?
    An extensive coverage by the B1M of the GPE, like of Crossrail, would be fabulous!
    Plus, the SGP (Société des Grands Projets, formerly Société du Grand Paris) is very welcoming to youtubers and journalists, especially given the quality of your videos.
    Bon séjour à Paris !

  • @milkmangaming3325
    @milkmangaming3325 Před 12 dny

    Only thing I don't get, why is the Olympic pool being heated when professional swimmers swim in cold water. Am I missing something when I used to be a pro swimmer all pools we raced in where 10-14 degrees c, I would thing the pool needed cooling so the room temperature doesn't heat up the pool.

  • @lannes2068
    @lannes2068 Před měsícem

    There's an error: 3 new permanent venues were built for the Olympics: Le Bourget Climbing Centre, the Aquatic Centre AND the Adidas Arena at Porte de la Chapelle.

  • @jaxamilius5237
    @jaxamilius5237 Před měsícem

    in UK, we would have talked about it for years, asking who will pay for it? then come up with numbers out of thin air, then as the construction is underway, the cost increase by 20 times and then we stop mid way and blame everyone... just sad..

  • @DavidTonner
    @DavidTonner Před měsícem +1

    Thanks!

  • @Leeroy49
    @Leeroy49 Před měsícem +4

    Using already existing stadiums only works when you hosted big venues before... The rivers still aren't cleaned up though^^ very green.

  • @FBandSpin
    @FBandSpin Před měsícem +1

    Value Innovation. We’re gonna use the data. Might as well squeeze some good out of it. Keep the ideas flowing!

  • @Chrisionvision
    @Chrisionvision Před měsícem

    I first read "How the Internet is Hating Paris" and was a bit disappointed to find out it was about heating.

  • @llucos100
    @llucos100 Před dnem

    Well, data centre needs cooling, pool needs heating… I guess it’s a no brainer.

  • @3vil8unny
    @3vil8unny Před měsícem +1

    Very very cool you have such interesting amazing videos.

  • @clairabeara
    @clairabeara Před měsícem

    Insanely inspiring work

  • @subnormality5854
    @subnormality5854 Před měsícem +2

    So my old inefficient comp is actually saving the Earth with 10+ hours of CZcams a day? great

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +1

      Those 10+ hours better all be B1M

    • @subnormality5854
      @subnormality5854 Před měsícem

      @@TheB1M No, it's about 1 hour/day, the rest is dumb memes and sales training videos

  • @Dust-dc8n
    @Dust-dc8n Před 22 dny

    Be awesome if they mentioned how much the district heating system cost.

  • @Danger_Mouse3619
    @Danger_Mouse3619 Před měsícem +8

    What you dont tell is how much more it costs to have this infrastructure to set this up compared to just building a building the usual way.

    • @Fractal227
      @Fractal227 Před měsícem +2

      What do you mean? A data center converts around 90% of its power input as heat output, that is an incredible amount of heat just going to waste all around the world.
      A small data center can heat thousands of homes year round, so the income from this is not insignificant.
      What do you expect it would cost to build this infrastructure that you mention? In Denmark a lot of heating is done via district heating and would just needed to be connected into the existing infrastructure or a heat exchanger to exchange the heat from the DC to the energy companies existing infrastructure.

  • @amon_69
    @amon_69 Před měsícem

    swimming in the Seine will be a challenge considering the fact there are those who are planning to defecate in the river as a form of protest

  • @Ryan-lk4pu
    @Ryan-lk4pu Před měsícem

    It's is always better to use the heat but i do wonder if the energy usage of the huge fans that he mentioned.
    I also had an idea (I'm sure it's been thought of by others lol) of installing huge transparent tubes of algae that are integrated into commercial building walls. Fresh air could be pumped in and the algae could just do is thing, all day, everyday of producing o2

  • @gearheadgaming1537
    @gearheadgaming1537 Před měsícem +4

    AI servers vs data centers are different animals as far as materials (processors) and more electricity. Please mention this

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +2

      We have a separate Short coming out on that in couple of days and we talk about it in this week’s podcast. Agree it’s a huge area!

    • @gearheadgaming1537
      @gearheadgaming1537 Před měsícem

      @@TheB1M awesome

  • @Izmael1310
    @Izmael1310 Před měsícem +2

    Last reports or River Seine 1:57 are not good. Still lot of sh*t in there which could cause health risks.

  • @martinc.720
    @martinc.720 Před měsícem

    They now save a ton of money by not building new facilities for the Games, and then they spend all the money they have saved on security, to make sure nothing bad happens to their existing facilities during the Games.

  • @dennis2376
    @dennis2376 Před měsícem

    Thank you.

  • @EyesOfByes
    @EyesOfByes Před měsícem +5

    I suspect this happens in Facebook's datacenter in Luleå, Sweden

  • @Leto_II
    @Leto_II Před měsícem

    See this, why can’t we do more of this? Using energy that is otherwise being wasted not only capturing it but using it to grow fruit/veg. Hope more places take note of this, also use some old ideas Re: Wind catching towers / Malqaf.

  • @fractera
    @fractera Před 23 dny

    Lol I thought that was a typo. I can't believe it's literal.

  • @craftmechanics6483
    @craftmechanics6483 Před měsícem

    They consulted with Linus Pool Tips for this.

  • @davidpnewton
    @davidpnewton Před měsícem +1

    "You'll be able to swim in the Seine."
    Erm no. The sewage level readings still there would make doing that wxceedingly dangerous.😊

  • @AgoraLibertas
    @AgoraLibertas Před měsícem +2

    Paris a green city... Dude are you serious ?

    • @AgoraLibertas
      @AgoraLibertas Před měsícem

      How many solar pannel hae you seen in the city ? How many roof have been transformed with your green whashing culture... For a city with 10 millions of citizens ? 10 millions ! It's a shame to tell that Paris became green city with the olympic games........... !!!!! A shame !!!!

  • @heathmcrigsby
    @heathmcrigsby Před měsícem

    I wonder how safe this summer's games will be

  • @peculiarfilm
    @peculiarfilm Před měsícem +5

    We need less heat rn ☀️ 🥵

  • @ginog5037
    @ginog5037 Před měsícem +8

    How do you go from 30C to 60C without additional energy 🤔

    • @bmwhocking
      @bmwhocking Před měsícem +9

      Heat pumps.
      The heat turns a working fluid (usually CO2 from a low pressure liquid into a high pressure gas, that gas goes through a compressor & the higher pressure gas runs through a expansion coil, releasing the heat energy at a higher temperature
      Mathematically the overall process and ratios are very similar to a electrical transformer
      Neither a heat pump or a transformer can create heat or voltage.
      But they can move heat energy & voltage up and down a scale with a small energy loss.
      If you are interested, recommend diving into the heat pump rabbit hole on Wikipedia.

    • @freetripin
      @freetripin Před měsícem +3

      You can't. But now calculate how much energy you will need to heat the water from 30 to 60C and from 15 to 60C.

    • @ginog5037
      @ginog5037 Před měsícem

      @@bmwhocking That's what I thought, additional energy is required. I'm sure on a massive scale.

    • @knaperstekt7953
      @knaperstekt7953 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@ginog5037 If the heat energy is used somewhere instead of blown out into the air, that's a win. Less energy from the general grid or other sources is needed, money is saved. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před měsícem

      @@ginog5037 As @freetripin said, a massive scale is still less than an enormous scale.

  • @connorfrancis7056
    @connorfrancis7056 Před měsícem +2

    Fascinating stuff! Love the videos

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching ✊️✊️

  • @Prometheus4th
    @Prometheus4th Před měsícem +1

    NEW B1M 🎉

    • @TheB1M
      @TheB1M  Před měsícem +1

      You know it ✊️

  • @freetolook3727
    @freetolook3727 Před měsícem

    Sounds like the Olympics have the potential to be the new World's Fairs.

  • @bestbloodyday
    @bestbloodyday Před měsícem

    Heating water in summer is genius!

  • @daddyraffles7083
    @daddyraffles7083 Před měsícem

    In Belgrade... City council already using a technology of algae to absorb more carbon dioxide and release more oxygen