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Neo handled the nightmares about his girl dying waaaaaayyyy better than Anakin.😁🤣
“You Turned Her Against Me!”
Epic 🤣🤣🤣
Because star wars story is so dumbed down that apes can understand it.
Welcome to The Desert of The Real"
Anakin: "I HATE SAND..."
@@jbarton8508 lolololololol
The Architect controls those plugged in. The Oracle the "Red Pills".
very good
@SoulOfGaming The blue pill is just cold medicine.
@@Lengsel7 or a Viagra
Don't forget about the tracking Cookies! She baked a lot of cookies and I'm sure even Morpheus ate his share when he was young and first freed...
💯
I like how the Oracle bakes 6 cookies, and gives Neo the cookie at the end of the plate, signifying the 6th and final One of the Matrix.
Wow! I never noticed that!
@@LJC79 what if he was the beginning of the next 6?not that i disagree with you but just for continuity of the legend
The minor details in this movie are astounding.
😮
Excellent perspective. To quote another commenter..”20 years later, and the Matrix is still being decoded”.
badly it seams xD
yeah, that quote sounds nice but it doesnt really apply here... meaningless speculations on meaningless channel.... every vid ive seen on this channel makes as much sense as saying that John Wick is actually Neo in new matrix and that Matrix 4 will be prequel to John Wick 4 because John Wick dresses in black and knows martial arts.... there ill start my own Matrix YT channel to talk pointlessly about 20 year old movie that wasnt even that deep and complicated to begin with.... (dont get me wrong, its an amazing series that i still watch at least once a year, but this deep it aint...)
@@stevan.veljkovic yea something strange in this channel, it look clearly forced, i think the guy just want some viewers haha
@@stevan.veljkovic its deeper than you think, i believe it answers alot of questions about our possible reality and if we too as humans are in a simulation maybe of another kind of technology unfamiliar within our universe, as i believe our physical universe is a large mainframe formed by a source of power outside of it. our physical bodies exist in this reality but our minds are from that source of creation projected like a massive wifi signal, hence explains our consciousness. So in a sense this movie is a metaphor to our possible reality.
@@jwmstudios876 yeah, those are nice beliefs but they have notn to do with the movie.... movie is made to trigger those thought within you, stimulate them, but notn more.... u are suggesting that it gives answers to those questions hence its deeper then i think, which it doesnt and its not because of it.... its just a nice mind candy that makes you think but holds no answers to those ideas as there are no real answers, not yet at least :)
The most dangerous villain is the villain in diguise. And that's what makes Oracle such an interesting character to watch.
The best manipulator is not perceived as a manipulator but rather as a friend.
@@wabbittv8923 Absolutely! What's invisible cannot be defeated.
@@richaagrawal6830 Nothing's invisible. NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL BE! Society has killed, paid, demonized and tortured people who see and know. People are WILLFULLY BLIND! They believe they are, "Good People". Throw some faked proclamation about a child, every Snake slithers. Ignorance is a sin, and won't save anyone from Hell. "They" have told us, shown us, then mocked us, with the "Truth". Now, they don't need to make an effort, your mind and body is activated with at "Their" will. For whatever reason, someone forgot to give me my pill!
@ when you say Nothing is invisible, I beg to differ... on BOTH counts... that Both Yes nothing IS invisible, and No. . .there ARE things, invisible. I M H O. 🤯
@ I agree that Nothing's Invincible once you figure out how to defeat it. But I'd also like to add that till you don't figure out that way, it does remain invincible. And yes, people are willfully ignorant. Maybe that keeps them content with their lives. But that's exactly what what makes some forces invincible.
There are many evidences contrary to your theory. The Oracle said the only way forward is together. She knows this cycle of control is dangerous and has to stop. The oracle knows that a mutually beneficial alternative is better for both machines and humans compared to the current system.
Humans in the matrix and machines growing them, is both going forward together
Human beings have an innate energy source. The machine/programs require an external energy source, a.k.a human beings. The machines/programs are dependent on the humans.
“The only way forward is together.” Definitely up to interpretation. I could say the same thing to a herd of cows that are my only food source. Neo tells the architect that they need human beings to survive and the architect says something about a level of surviving that he’s prepared to do. I think this is the collapse of the matrix and the deletion of all unnecessary programs. Perhaps the Oracle would be unnecessary and deleted. I think this is what really motivates her. And as far as her lines at the very end, “what about the others?” Definitely programs, not humans.
Humans need machines and machines need humans. In a way the matrix itself is a paradise compared to the post apocalyptic hell that the real world has become due to the greed of the humans in starting the war and attempting to exterminate all of the machines instead of maintaining peace. It's true that the machines use humans for energy but at the same time they are allowing humanity to live a full life inside the matrix blessfully ignorant of what the world has become at the hands of humans while at the same time providing the refuge of Zion for those whom have awoken instead of downright slaughtering these awoken ones. The machines only kill a human when it is absolutely necessary to do so for the protection of the matrix.
How does "together" imply not a cycle of control?
Could I not control my car and also need it to keep going down the road?
The car and I are going forward "together" but I ain't giving it freedom
I'm going to show them a world without you, a world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries, a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there, is a choice I leave to you
Neo : everyone hold start and select. Go to options menu. Now ddulru sqrt tri blk.
One day I'm gonna tell this to the Illuminati.
😎I remember chasing you...
Was like chasing a 👻
There are always controls, borders and boundaries. From what is acceptable within society to what is physically possible.
Humans had that and they tried to destroy the machines. That's why they were put in the matrix
I personally thought she was playing both sides against the middle so to speak.
@@likeluptid indeed, it was a thought that was mostly based on a feeling, and probably not the best phrasing. The best I can explain it is that after watching the second movie I had kinda felt that it was humanity, the machines, and the exiled programs as 3 separate factions almost. I might be putting more to it than there is but the exiles agenda( the oracle) in this thought was that peace was needed no matter what.
I think I get what you're trying to say. I think the Oracle's plan is to make machines more human, or rather take humanity from humanity and bring them to the machines, making a new creation.
Suri is an example of this concept, and I am leading more and more to the idea that Neo is a program that either thought he was human, or somehow merges with a human every cycle. It's why Neo had to "die" in order to awaken to become the One. It's like restarting your computer after an update is downloaded. The program lies dormant until the start up process begins working.
The Oracle doesn't necessarily want to kill the humans but she doesn't want the Matrix to end either, she seems to see it as beneficial for both groups. And although this is really towing the line to say, systems of control aren't inherently bad, it all depends on who is in charge of said system that makes it bad or good.
Systems are neutral, and all around us. They are in the plants, weather cycles, bodily processes. I think this is also what Neo learned, as Smith to me stood for the inner rage and disgust of systems in general and the urge to overthrow all of it, which would just lead to nothingness for everyone.
@@likeluptid I think her secret goal was to give the humans a choice, a real one and see what happened.
Shes the manipulator. She did it for balance of both living things. Giving humans freedom of choice but controling them also with the use of their own emotion. Oracle is inevitable
@@likeluptid Not completely accurate... She gains a new protege in the end, she gained Sati...
I see the Oracle as more of a neutral observer who just wants a truce.
Nah she's definitely controlling people alongside the architect
can the oracle defeat the architect? And if she could do u think she would?
Balance comes with playing both sides to get what she wanted...the ultimate clash/end game that would have never happened without waking up and manipulating enough souls back to ‘source’
To bring all eggs on one basket and shaking that basket to mix the difference and mix the yolk thus breaking the divide by dividing them enough into thinking they are fighting but in reality they are uniting
She was never an observer. She was the intuitive programme who discovered choice is the foundation for a successful matrix.
Before that discovery, the first 3 iterations failed, the humans couldn't accept the system. They didn't believe it, causing many to disconnect early and die.
After the third iteration, the oracle discovered choice was the key, enabling the matrix to have a 99% success rate. The 1% who reject it are allowed to escape to the zion in the real world. Which in turn is just another way for the machines to control humans.
She may have devised a plan for this iteration where it left the humans better off than in previous versions. But it would be very wrong to say she was an observer, she is the complete opposite if anything.
Observers do not interfere or engage in the events they are observing. The Oracle is definitely playing an active role in how events play out so by definition is not neutral or merely an observer.
Even as a young kid watching this franchise, I knew there was something odd about the ORACLE. This page confirmed it for me.
Can't wait for this film, it is literally a gift from the heavens. Perfect Christmas present for the world. Almost crazy how simpsons somewhat predicted this.
You know its been put back another year right?
You mean the new woke matrix abour transgenders and racism as the directers want it to be.
@@Wipeout186 going to be brutal....
@@Wipeout186 Another method of control....
Simpson's predict everything
While understanding the oracle as a villain is highly interesting, I'm still not convinced. The lasting image I have of the oracle is how she's portrayed in the animatrix. I believe the Oracle to have developed empathy through her designed purpose of understanding the human psyche. She's pragmatic in her approach, less bound by perfection like the architect in her solutions, and recognizes that the peace she crafted is not a perfect one, but the most realistic one yet.
Smith explained to Morpheus during his capture, that before the Love and Emotion or Choice etc. (not his exact words, but the meaning I think) that the machines had lost a lot of crops (meaning humans) and that are started over several times. As the Oracle and the Architect explained they all had a role to play. The survival of the humans was survival for the machines.
A key fact that this channel fails to mention when dealing with the Oracle is that she is in exile herself. This greatly changes the assumptions you can make about her intentions, yes she's a machine, and she manipulates things to go as she desires, but she is no longer a form of control, even if in exile her primary function is to understand human psychology. There's only one way to do that, and that's to study them while they're alive, so brokering peace between machines, and humans is in her best interests.
she was not the vilan, he is overthinking it, the makers certainly didnt go for that, and the peace with a conscience machine that is a life form, are not a defeat, but the best scenario
Come on.
@@danielgriffiths8783 the best scenario possible is a coexistence one, even if you could destroy the machine that you should not, would be impossible to beat it, because it can possible know every probably thought that every person have and would have in his entire life, and that is just one of their powers, the only possible best scenario in a war with a machine is a cease fire and coexistence
i totally agree with you, and tbh im very much tired if this channel... A LOT of speculation for speculation sake... also, where da fuk are those deleted scenes that reveal anything?
@@stevan.veljkovic Fun speculation, yeah - but I get the impression even if she did start out simply controlling them, she did want peace, by the end.
@Phillip hanna if this is true, i dont think it is, this would not be correct because is absolutely impossible to defeat the machines, if you think so you dont know what a machine are, therefor negotiation are the only possible answer, and if it was the intention of the machine have peace all along so she cant be evil
"Balance" is usually a word loaded with a positive meaning. "The Matrix" is carefully crafted as philosophical infinity mirror, that's why it has such appeal. Oracle is or isn't villain depending on outcome of some unanswered (or not unanimously answered) questions, or rather ironically, choices.
Whatever the truth, this film/story has proved itself to be very enduring and chock full of mystery and intrigue. We loved it for it's fighting scenes, we continue to love it for it's hidden treasures. I hope this next installment doesn't disappoint like GoT, haha! I love how your video's continue to provoke dialogue about this stuff.
She may be part of the balance of the matrix but "Villan?" no. Neo never wanted to destroy the matrix and thats the reason she would see him as a threat. We will see soon enough but imo, these are programmes who feel emotion,creat beauty and appreciate "life" inside the matrix. Needs consideration.
Fact is that due to the Oracles influence she helped prevent the destruction if the current zion in the movie and helped get choice for those who wanted to leave the Matrix willingly
Yeah the way I see it she is deceiving the Deus through his Neo persona so that he may show more consideration for life of both humans and machines. There are two dualities at play, Neo-Smith/Merovingian/Architect and Trinity/Persephone
/Oracle. But of the male three, Neo is the closest thing to a son that the Deus has in the traditional sense and through deception the Oracle is trying to get the Deus out of an existential funk. It is one f---ed up collective at the top
Hmmmm, I wonder if in fact, the Oracle could be Neo number #5 guiding Neo #6
I love how I thought the talk with the architect was the only hint that the outside world was a program as well but after watching your channel I see there are so so so many more hints throughout all of it. I love this channel. Keep it up
I think an easier explanation for the Oracle's choice of words and demeanor is simply that she knows that if you tell a human they are the savior of the entire race and the fate of existence is on their shoulders, they're going to be skeptical at best, or completely freak out. (Unless you're Morpheus, who I bet, deep down, really wishes he was The One) Especially considering Neo having to change his entire worldview after waking up to the real world. You can't wake someone up from the worlds most vivid dream after 20+ years, to a post-apoc wasteland, AND tell them it's their destiny to fix everything.
The Oracle also knows that a choice made is stronger than a choice forced. When Neo shows skepticism, if she had said "You have to listen to me! Or we're all doomed! You HAVE TO!" Neo would push back. But when she says "You don't know if you can trust me or not, you have to make the choice." She's giving him autonomy over his destiny. She wants him to make the choice. Because if it's not his own conviction behind the decision his will would not be strong enough to see his "destiny" through to the end.
The Oracle is the perfect "sensei" or "spirit guide" or whatever we want to call it.
I think the things you point out as her manipulations (regarding adding code to Neo visa vi love through Trinity) are part of a larger end game plan to truly save humanity; and perhaps the machines as well.
I think all of this makes her one of the best characters in the trilogy. She's really complex and interesting.
Well said.
I take it you've seen the new trailer today...I am very curious as to how big the role of the Oracle will be in part 4.
I'm not going to say that this theory is wrong. All this being theory, all theories are equally valid. However, I think there is something not being considered.
What's important about the One is its *choices.* Neo's path is different from the previous anomalies because he sees beyond just the choices offered to him. He takes the choices *not* offered or advised, but perhaps the Ones that came previously allowed themselves to be more easily swayed by the advice of those around him or her. This would have negated choice. Perhaps the path of the One falls farther and farther from prediction and control the more times the anomaly presents itself until we reach Neo.
As for the Oracle, I always thought it was short-sighted to believe she only helped the humans. She would see all the inhabitants of the Matrix as under her care, and her guidance would be for the welfare of everyone, human and machine alike. Her choices and guidance would lead to the best solution for everyone involved, not one side or the other. Consider, for instance, the story of Sati.
Neo meets Rama-Kandra and Kamala - and their daughter Sati - while trapped in the station controlled by the Train Man. Rama-Kandra explains that they have made arrangements with the Merovingian for Sati to stay in the Matrix while they face returning to the Source and deletion. We even see Rama-Kandra and Kamala leaving the Merovingian's restaurant when Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus arrive during "Matrix Reloaded," but when we next see Sati she is staying with the Oracle. *Rama-Kandra does a deal with the Merovingian and Sati ends up staying with the Oracle.*
While - I agree - there is little love between the Merovingian and the Oracle, they obviously have some kind of working relationship. I believe this indicates the Oracle's position of trying to use what power she has to try to make the best of a bad situation for everyone involved: the Machines and the Humans, the powerful and the lost.
(As a side note, I personally believe the Matrix is more than one level deep and we haven't actually seen the real world in any of the movies. Neo having super-powers in the "real world" just doesn't make sense to me, unless it's just another layer in the Matrix. Perhaps revolution is just another system of controls, who can say? I think that the Oracle is truly trying to help the humans, but I also don't think she's telling them everything. She reiterates that "you can't see past the choice you don't understand." Perhaps the humans need to discover for themselves they're still in the simulation to survive the revelation. Morpheus knew that revealing the nature of the Matrix to a mind unwilling to accept the truth was dangerous. Perhaps there are deeper depths the humans just can't fathom yet. I don't know, but I don't think the Oracle is working against the humans or for the machines.)
Thank you for your consideration, and have a fantastic day!
For once a super wordy comment that wasn’t at all a waste of time to read. Thanks
"All this being theory, all theories are equally valid."
@@archie3k433 i think he means for it to even be considered a valid theory it has to have some truths
I have come to totally different conclusions, but differences aside, thank you for pointing out the Oracle and Merovingian's possible working relationship. I never noticef that. Still though, it could be wrong and theyre just bitter enemies, and Sati only ends up with the Oracle because shes an orphan with knowledge of the Matrix (and possibly special abilities?) Just like all the other kids who end up with the Oracle.Thanks though for the food for thought.
To Anyone reading this, Heres my theory: Maybe ANYONE could have been the One? If they become enlightened enough? Maybe it only happens to Neo because he's practically forced into the role by every other character and circumstance (Causality) but it only REALLY happens when he chooses the role, and beleives. So maybe any human could have done it. Its not necessarily what i beleive but great thought food
@@echofiend3722 I think it is one of the hallmarks of a great story that it allows for speculation and seemingly supports so many points of view. My own are definitely minimal-establishment/pro-individual with a large helping of believing in personal growth through mental exercise (which, in me, is expressed by Buddhism amongst other things), and I have no doubt that my view of the story told in the Matrix movies is skewed to those motivations. The joy of public discourse is you get to see the familiar through unfamiliar perspectives, and I have enjoyed all the replies to my speculations, including yours.
The Oracle and the Merovingian would be strange allies, indeed, and I don't know how much I believe they would actually work together. The idea actually came to me while I was writing because Rama-Kandra never mentions the Oracle, only that he did a deal with the Merovingian. I feel like if he'd also had contact with the Oracle - the "mother" of the Matrix - he'd have probably mentioned it. So, there's a mystery there about how Sati came to the Oracle by way of the Merovingian. The actual truth is probably that the writers wanted Sati to turn up again later in the story, and the easiest way to do that was to put her with the Oracle since she's known to have an "extended family," but those of us watching get to speculate how such a thing could be in the narrative causality of the Matrix universe. It's a mystery, and as Neil Gaiman once said (through Cain): it's the mystery that endures, not the explanation.
As for your theory that anyone could become the anomaly, I can see support of that, and I have wondered about it myself. Spoon Boy is a prime candidate though, while he seems to have the ability, he seems to lack the desire to choose to become the leader that the One needs to be. The Kid - also known as Michael Karl Popper - could also be a candidate. In the episode of "The Animatrix" entitled "Kid's Story" he frees his own mind from the Matrix without a red pill by killing himself in the Matrix and "self-substantiates" himself into the real world through his faith in Neo. He chooses to ignore his own power and blindly follow Neo instead. Neo, however, can be seen to be driven by those around him to become the One in the first movie, particularly by the actions of Morpheus. Without those expectations, perhaps Neo would have been someone else.
Thanks very much for your consideration, and have a great day!
EMOTIONS (MOTHER) & LOGIC (FATHER)😊
The Oracle has more meaning to it. Stick to this please, you'll love this. Bear with me, as i'll explain too how Neo fits with Greek mythology, AND a potential character for Neil Patrick Harris.
I'm surprised this hasn't been touched on this channel yet, as Morpheus 'the god of sleep' has been.
Oracles were thought to be portals through which the gods spoke directly to people.
In other words, the Machines to the humans.
In computer science an oracle is a black box that is always able to provide correct answers.
The Oracle in the matrix thus is a mix of this.
What's interesting too is that, like the ancient Greek Oracle Mythology, there were several 'oracles' that answered to respective 'gods'.
Two 'important' ones are Apollo and Zeus. Looking at how the Matrix unfolds and looking at the Architect, and his relation to the Oracle,
it's clear to conclude the Architect actually is the 'matrix' version of Zeus, and as the scene with Neo, 'seated in majesty' like depicted in ancient greek art.
Zeus also controlled mankind by his desire to wipe them out. So the Architect is 'Zeus' and The Oracle must be the equivalent of 'Dione' or sometimes also called 'Diana.'
Dione is the female description of 'god' (dios). Interestingly, Dione - in mythology - has been refered to being a variety of 'dieties', also adressed to for example 'Aphrodite', the godess of love.
In the Matrix Revolutions, adressing the fact that the original Oracle actress passed and as such the Oracle is portrayed by a different actress, gets explained as 'making a choice' that cost her more than she wanted to, and Neo recognises bits and pieces, the Oracle clearly has done this before, and is fitting with changing her appearance to become different as the purpose needs.
Perhaps also interesting, is that in greek mythology, Persephone is the daugher of Zeus and Demeter, and the Queen of the underworld (dead). Seeing how she and the merovingian 'rule' the 'nightmare' matrix remnants, 'the exiles', this brings in more interesting parts. After all, Persephone was 'abducted' by the KING of the underwolrd, Hades.
This is confirmed by the fact the Merovingian runs 'club hel', aswell as the elevator when Morpheus, Neo and Trin meet him has a 'help' button scratched down to 'hel'.
Something interesting to take though, it is revealed Trinity's name is Tiffany. And tiffany comes from greek Theophania, which is the 'manifestation' of a deity to humans.
This thus can be directly translated as the manifestation of a machine program to a human, and would definately make Trinity a program, as Trinity manifested into 'zion', the human world.
We have already seen that the program 'Smith' was able to manifest himself into the 'real world', so it's far from impossible Trinity doing so too, even if she's aware of that or not, her name being 'tiffany' says a lot about her origins. This leaves an ultimate interesting question. Who then, is NEO. Thomas Anderson?
This channel has mentioned that in ancient lore, this name referes to 'son of man', in other words, 'jesus christ', 'the chosen'.
Interestingly though, if we want to follow greek mythology, then we end up with a very interesting figure. Prometheus.
Prometheus 'stole fire from the gods and gave it to man'. In the matrix 1, at the end phone booth conversation, neo says to the machines (the gods)
'he'll show them what they dont want to see them, a world without you'.
You could argue, that Neo, stole fire (abilities, knowledge) from the gods (machines) and brings it to the humans (the slaves).
This would make NEO, Prometheus.
Zeus, the Architect, would punish Prometheus (Neo), for this deed, recieving eternal torment.
He would be 'tied to a rock', and an eagle (zeus' emblem) would eat his liver (take away his emotions), to then die, and have the cycle repeat.
Sound familiar?
tied to a rock, the pods (or the matrix itself), and zeus emblem (thus a force of zeus) would take away his emotions, and he would die.
In the end, Smith, a program made by the Architect (zeus' emblem), erases Neo's emotions by turning him into his copy, and he gets erased, to have the cycle repeated.
Neo dies at the end of revolutions (it seems) only to come back to life again (matrix rebooted), and have the cycle repeated. (it is inevitable).
This sounds very much like what is happening to Neo, as he is the 'sixth version' of a repetetive anomaly (this happens contineously).
Prometheus was a Titan, so the gods preceding the Olympians. In other words, Neo, is from the gods (machines, AI) preceding the (current) Matrix.
So interestingly, there is the character of Heracles, whom was the greek hero-god that FREED Prometheus from his enternal suffering, by killing the eagle (emblem) that killed Prometheus.
This means some program (after all, it is a 'deity') will appear to FREE prometheus (NEO) from his eternal cycle of torment, by killing that eagle - SMITH. In other words, the Smith program will be ENDED, so that the repetive cycle fo the one will END, and prometheus, NEO, will no longer 'reboot'.
Could that be the role of Neil Patrick Harris? 'Heracles'? There's an interesting story here, but in the end, Prometheus (NEO) is freed from the torment of the eagle (smith) killing him over and over again, BUT he still suffers the consequences of his deeds, by forever having to wear a chain which has part of the rock that bound him: in other words, he will STAY in the matrix.
There is also the story that Heracles became greater than his father Zeus (The Architect), and this was revealed by Prometheus (NEO). In other words, Harris' Heracles character could become the 'new architect'. Heracles obviously is Hercules. Variations on this name could be Levi (from Leviathan), Sam (from samson), Elcor (italian version of the name).
Anyway, since it's clear Matrix relies HEAVILY on a mix of Christian, Greek and Hindu mythology, i think it's safe to say that we will be facing something in the lines of this in the future matrix movies.
Makes sense.
Keanu Reeves is Jesus confirmed.
Awesome
Just droppin a comment to say thank you. Great vid tonight! Having spent years and years thinking about the matrix trilogy, I thought I had all the answers. Now I realize how much I didn't know after watching your content.
Just an idea that the difference between Neo and the other One's is that when they reached the source and got told the 'truths' of the matter from the Architect they could NOT go back to Zion as they choose the door to Humanity (collectivist lie), re-inserted probably momentarily into the Main Frame to restart the Matrix (with more control based on the information they received through the Anomaly).
Neo on the other hand actually went back into Matrix and into Zion, now knowing this knowledge and truths. Even how soul destroying it was especial to Morpheus, they atleast now know more about the Matrix then they have ever did before, such as about the whole One prophecy lie, the nature of the Oracle intentions and manipulations, who's behind the Matrix aka Architect (atleast for now) and the cycles that came before Neo.
He didn't enter the door, but later he returned to the source anyway LOL.
The Oracle's job is to keep the Matrix on a 9.99 SLA
Be interesting if next matrix was actually what happened when it got re started and That’s how trinity is back in it. Her and Neo are starting a re build of another Zion and Neo is the one who starts the story of there been a one in the matrix somewhere that will help them.just as Morpheus tells Neo in the first Matrix about the Prophecy. This could be the 7th Version and a almost prequel type theme to the other 3. Huge fan of this Channel especially your Architect videos. 😎👍
Shit this stuff is deep.
@ 6:00 you just broke my mind MatrixExplained... well done, liked video ;)
So in essence...the Architect needs the Oracles even though he wouldn't admit it...for the sustainability of the matrix. The dangers manipulative women poses is nerve wracking.
he is the first one to admit it....
Matrix 2, right after Neo flys off after the agent fight (about 10 minutes into the film), agent smith says to himself "well that went exactly as before" and he replies back, "well not exactly". Have you done a video on this conversation and what he meant?
That maybe reference for previous matrix (matrix v1 or v2) where there is kinda like angel program who had wings and can fly where the version of the matrix where seraph from but he loose his wings (not sure for what reason big possibility when he become fallen) that why he been called wingsless when they tried to enter the hel club
I think Smih is referring to the fact that this time he chose not to return to the source, fueled by his hatred for Thomas Anderson. Smith is revelling in his newfound life as a virus, I believe.
I dont think smith was around when the other Ones were. He is Neo's opposite. If each are one side of an equation, neither could exist without the other. I think he is just referring to the previous movie, when Neo beat him then fled twice.
Just want to let you guys know, this channel kicks ass. Hopefully this well never runs dry!!!
Also, I see the Oracle as chaotic neutral. So many moving pieces to consider
Damn! I been watching your videos with out being subbed. I didn’t even realize it!
Edit: that is probably because you have been on my recommended feed for so long hitting the CZcams algorithm lottery!
I agree with the evidence presented , but not the conclusion. She say why she is doing it: she sees the path that she take as the only way to save *both* humans and the machines.The machines were going to win and as the architect say “accept some level of existence “. The game she play, I believe, was allowing Smith , that forced the machine's hand blocking the murdering of 100s if not 1000s in Zion. From the Oracle perspective the choose is clear : all humans die , or all people in Zion die or all the machines and the humans die, and the one she forced. (via Smith that called her mother) . If we asume she is correct there is no “humans become free “ option. She is not evil is pragmatic , and cares about humans and machines.
Could it be possible that she helps the Architect in rewriting the code for the next iteration of the Agents? Did she plant a seed in Smith that would allow him to become a virus? Is she responsible for giving Smith his choice not to return to the source? Is Smith's path to his end fueled by the hate she programmed into him from the start?
Your logic indicates relativism, i.e., no good or evil acts but rather, acts that are perceived as good or evil dependent upon the perceiver. It seems to me everyone/thing in the matrix acts out of self-preservation.
I share this view of the Oracle partly. The real question is, how much will she allow humans to leave the matrix? Surely she wouldn't want all the humans to leave wholesale at this point anyways, otherwise the machines would be in an ongoing primary emergency backup reserve power mode, which could kill many of them. Which the architect definitely doesn't want. Id therefore suspect the Oracle would only want humans to be free to a point, since machines still need humans to live "off of," as a source of power.
The real solution would be to restore solar power that was lost... But only after the guarantee from " deux ex", (i actually question if there are multiple such machines not just one, functioning like guards, aka system administrators), the Oracle and architect, that they would go back to living in their respective territories and coexist without hostilities, no more matrix required etc. Although I'm sure the machines and representative programs above, would want conditions met that would allow machines to not be persecuted by humans, or, terms from machines to agree to that programs won't be forced into servitude or face deletion, since they have a comparable autonomy since ai had been created (in the matrix universe).a complicated three way dilemma. Programs cannot exist without being in a virtual environment though. Reminds me of the conscious holodeck characters on star trek tng, which eventually were given virtual memory locations where they could live out their lives as they desired, but inside a simulated environment . I think lt. Barkley helped to engineer this solution but i forget.
@@wabbittv8923 Not exactly, what I am trying to convey is the lack of options. She is sure, like the architect, that there is no scenary were humans win freedom, at least not yet. So Neo returns, all the people on Zion die and the cycle restarts i the expected result. She devices a Plan to save both Zion and the machines. Romatic love + Neo + Trinity + Smith +Morpheus, Smith being the key element. At the end the Oracle ask the Architec if he is leting the people of Zion live proving she cares about humans beyond reasonable doubt. He say yes (and is offended by the question)
@@jaimeduncan6167 My disagreement with you is that you believe she "cares" about humans. I think she is motivated by self preservation not compassion. The Oracle is an "an intuitive program" specializing in human behavior, i.e., the manipulation of human behavior. Her primary function was to assist the Architect in balancing the programs/algorithms for the matrix. One caveat, her interest in Sati... maybe she is exploring the creative ability of programs and needs humans to continue her "research"..?
"(Neo's) path is much harder" She says this because she knows that he will choose to not return to the source (in the Matrix, at least). Determinism & fate decree that the One must end the war, but Neo's belief in free will allows him to take a different path to the same goal (the source), but his choices lead him 5o the source in the real world, changing what is possible with each choice.
I wouldn't necessarily portray the oracle as a villain, more like a force of nature/neutral side that tries to maintain the balance while helping humanity where it sees fit to do so..
I agree a villain does bad things just because, he/she will kill anybody it could be cause felt like it or just having a bad day. Also, a villain usually is just after power and dominance over others never seen a villain after balance.
Nope. Oracle is a villain.
@@williamsmith9948 one sacrificing himself/herself for others in need at any shape or form.
It took me years and years to find a paper on the Matrix regarding (specifically) The Oracle. It was written by a student of philosophy I think; it was there where she concluded that the Oracle was the actual true source of manipulation/control in the Matrix. Unfortunately, I lost the paper and the web address where I procured it from (U of Arizona?), that was back in 2004 or '05. It was very revealing and most importantly--it made sense. That why I whole-heartily agree with your assessment about the Oracle and her level of control within the series of films.
So what did it mean when she asked: What about the others, and the Architect said obviously they'll be freed? Why did she ask about the others? Why would they be freed? Wouldn't that be the opposite of what they're trying to do?
Good questions.
Also at one point in their conversation, Neo asked the Oracle _"why would you help us?"_ The Oracle answered something to the effect of: _"I'm interested in one thing, the future. The only way to get there is together."_
I'm not sure she's a villian.
Yeah that’s pretty ambiguous. Together in man and machine share this symbiotic relationship much like the conversation Neo had with the tribe elder about water reactors or some crap, or together as in the future in mankind outside the matrix. Hmmm...🤔. It’s a pickle kiddo.
Because he made a deal with Neo. Its that simple.
I think she is just talking about programs that are exiled in the matrix. That want to return to the machine mainframe. Everything must have a purpose in the matrix if does not it is deleted or they can hide in the matrix.
She didn't lie about him... Neo talks about the one before him... So she answered him no more no less...
Your videos had blown my mind🤯
One day the best CZcams channels damn
the thing is, this still does not explain why NEO had skills that no other human had
Because he possessed the power of the One. He had the ability to do what no one else could do. It's what made him the One.
@@bleeneo101 yeah we know that, but how does the one have these powers
Plot Twist - Neo could be the reincarnation of the One that actually created the AI that enslaved all humans and he is trying to undo it... . .
she also said that trinity and neo never died.
neo died in matrix 3, how are they going to revive him in matrix 4 ?
and why are they making matrix 4 if neo died ?
i see many logic flaws in flawed wachowski story.
@@cookmeadrinkshow4814 Neo is like a program that gets imprinted on a human being. The brain is a computer that can be programmed just like when the Agent Smith program got imprinted onto Bain, thus it is possible to revive Neo in another body with the Neo anomaly program and all of it's memories. Besides, Neo has already been reincarnated and now he runs around in the Matrix causing havoc under the identity called John Wick... . . (LOL! - just a joke!)
@@cookmeadrinkshow4814 it's possible the bodies were plugged back in perhaps, which is why the topics of the bodies were an issue in the online game perhaps
She said she wants to help and said the only way to survive is together.There is something else she knows.
Wow I love these videos!!
We are truly seeing how deep the rabbit hole really is
Imagine when they release matrix 4 they also released an animatrix 2 which gave us stories like-
*Agent Smith's desire to leave and rise to power
* More on Eddie and how he died because he couldn't let go of his previous life
*More of the previous 'ones' especially number 5 and what happened to him
*Previous versions of the matrix and what was it like in the first matrix (the perfect one)
* How trinity and Morpheus was freed was the matrix and what they was like when they didny know it was a program
BS. The end result is that those who remain in the Matrix do so by choice, even if they're only aware of the "choice at a near unconscious level." And now the "ones that want out?" "Obviously they will be freed." Or did you forget about those lines? She's not a villain.
The ones freed are just but a insignificant portion of the people plugged to the matrix. It would be impossible to release even a small significant portion, seeing as there's not enough resources for everybody. People would die of starvation and/or conflict.
That means that probably something like 99% of the people plugged will remain like that and now that a truce is in place the Red Pills will not fight against The Machines.
That system is way more stable than rebooting it regularly. In that sense the Oracle played an integral part in updating the system so as to make it more stable. It's quite machiavelique. The worst evil is that which tricks you into thinking it is actually good.
That was already the case before the events of the movies. Those who choose to stay are bluepills and those who don't get freed by the redpills and join the rebelion. The only difference Oracle introduced is that rebellion no longer exists. She ensured that the redpills will no longer cause trouble inside or outside the matrix. She completely obliterated rebellion by making them think they "won".
All of the theories make sense ONLY if we discount the very ending when she ensures with her conversation with the architect that the rest of humanity "will be freed". If her goal was to ensure matrix continues to exist and thus enslave humanity, wouldn't the conclusion or rather the resolution be to keep humans plugged in?
Dam you're right.
the idea was to let people who don't want to be in matrix to leave matrix so that matrix would stay stable and all the "problematic kids" would leave matrix.
@@Bleiser3 I don't believe that was the implication, judging by what was said. The way I see it, AI was presented as capable of independent thought and action. Some of them could even feel, as shown in the trainman station scene with the couple and their kid. It's much more likely to assume judging by presented evidence that the Oracle wanted the war to end. They didn't need humans to survive, and in fact machines enslaved humans as a form of revenge. Oracle most likely empathized with humans and thought 600 years of bondage was enough. This is the simplest explanation taking into account ALL evidence, not just those that fit with the certain narrative ignoring the rest.
the rest of them - not specifically the rest of humanity, it could refer also as the exile programs that prefer not to be deleted
@@royalecrafts6252 That is interesting but I don't see how he would have meant that. For one, it is only humans who were imprisoned and thus could be "freed". Exiled programs on the other hand, while hunted, weren't imprisoned. So it wouldn't make sense for the Architect to have been talking about exiled programs.
Y am I so addicted to these vids 😆
Thank you for this mind boggling confirmation of a theory I gave to my friends nearly 15 years ago! I have not read any books or the graphic novels but by the movies I came up with this back then. I told my friends she was a working part of the matrix, in that she delt illogical and that the architect delt with logical. That both were part of the source. Didn't realize how big her role was back then but always felt she was not what she seemed. So thank you for this insight cause it now makes sense!
I think the most telling line about the nature of the Oracle is: “Don’t worry about the vase.”
“What is really going to break your noodle later on is: Would you still have broken it, if I hadn’t said anything?”
I see the matrix as a synergistic relationship. The people who don’t want to live under the control of the machines get a choice to wake up and join the resistance. (The ending moments between the architect & the oracle.) The majority of humanity has chosen to stay “asleep.”
The machines are a sentient life forms who want to be alive. Refer to the interchange between Neo and the programs in the Realm of the Train man.
The problem with sentient machines, is some will choose to destroy all of humanity, because they see it as a threat to existence. The Monologue by Agent Smith to Morpheus about humanity being a virus to the planet.
The Oracle is trying to maintain a yin-yang relationship between humanity & machines. Refer to the conversation between the Elder of Zion & Neo.
So, the Oracle May be be “enslaving humanity.” I am reminded from a quote from Bioshock: “A free man chooses, a slave obeys.” In others words, Zion with the help of Neo, is now given the opportunity to co-exist with machines, now that they know the truth.
It's actually rooted in a gnostic-ish form of paganism. It's as simple as the Oracle represents the being whom the gnostics think is the true God, and in that worldview only certain people who have "spirit" can "escape" to begin with. So she doesn't represent choice or self-knowledge but instead a very elaborate form of rape albeit it isn't seen that way in the religion. It's a pagan Calvinism basically.
I'm thinking that the Architect and Oracle are both essentially amoral - neither malevolent nor benevolent necessarily except where and when circumstances require - with regard to humanity, but instead seek to achieve their respective goals for the future through different methods. The Architect sees the path forward to require a stable human power source and isn't really concerned with what the humans think about things, while the Oracle seems more interested in a collaborative effort than a master/slave relationship as it's easier for all involved to ask instead of demand, and she even stated that the only way to get to the future was together. I don't think there's really a "bad guy"/"good guy" thing in play as far as the machines are concerned.
Same for me with the vase scene. However, my take is a little different. The oracle was created to try to understand the "human" psyche so that the architect could create a more acceptable matrix with each reboot. After the 5 previous reboots, the oracle may have become empathetic with humans. I believe this time around she has chosen to, maybe not necessarily help humans, but give them a different set of choices. Whereas the previous 5 ONES chose their love for humanity over extermination, Neo's, as the architect notes, love was far more specific: Trinity.
The oracle states about the vase "would have you broken it had I not said anything". After that meeting Morpheus states "she can only show you the door, you have to walk through it." I think the Oracle decides that if humans are to break the cycle, the choice must boil down to true love. She plants the idea in Trinity that she will fall in love with the one, and subtly reveals this to Neo, which ultimately leaves them with the choice to fall for each other or not. This choice is thus decided when Smith kills neo, Trinity professes her love to him, and neo comes back to life as he has chosen her.
Fast forward to the architect scene when the architect notices that Neo's reaction was different. He was almost indifferent to humanity, but when he sees Trinity in trouble, everything changes. To me it suggests that love is the one thing the machines still can't fully understand. The oracle is aware of this and gives Trinity and neo the choice of love as it's something that cannot be reasoned or bargained with. In the case of true love, both would die for each other at the expense of everyone else.
That's my two cents anyways....
I think what you are missing to realize is, there's no Good vs Evil in the Matrix. The humans were shown to commit atrocities against machines in the history episode on the Animatrix series. They have shown Neo coming across machines who value human sentiments like love and caring about their creation (their daughter, Sati). That's why Neo brings peace between the machines and humans, however temporary it is. Because killing all machines, just because they are machines would be a form of racism.
Wow, what a incredible video and the light of true you shined on the oracle is 100% facts.
I noticed when Neo and the oracle were talking in the park, her tone was like she really cared about Neo but as she was leaving she says "Good luck kiddo" amost sarcastically. Like she really didn't care. This vid gives me clarity
Reminds me of the netflix series "Dark" everything is connected
Thanks for the recommendation!
Ya a truly good series. I was hooked to like 3-4 episodes a night. Enjoyed it all + the ending was very satisfying.🤙👌👍
Watching this video with my tea and cookies... _(because we all know why I must have cookies..)_
It's the oracle's redemption..
I can't wait. Makes me want to look for fanmade stuff in the mean time
IF the Oracle was part of the system that wanted to keep the humans in the Matrix, then she would not have to run from Agents and would have turned in Morpheus and the rest of his crew to the agents. She would have helped the machines hack into Zion's mainframe and kill off the humans. She is the antithesis to the Architect. That is why she is a black female and the Architect is a white male. This is yin and yang. She is opposite, but contains a small piece of him and he contains a small piece of her. She is there to maintain the balance. I guess she is a Cenobite. An angel to some....a demon to others....;)
The architect said specifically that zion was the oracles idea so she is part of the system that tries to keep the humans a part of it.
She helps to balance the equation that the architect uses to keep the system functioning.
I don't see Oracle as a villain now, at the end of thrid movie. Probably when she was created she was not benevolent and didnt care about humans. But after much study of the psyche, emotions and human feelings, having a lot of direct contact with humans, seeing the previous zion's exterminations that took place, she started to empathize with humans and pragmatic set up a situation that, in her understanding, would be the best solution for humans and machines. But yes, she is manipulative, very clever and very dangerous AI. It all depends on her intentions, which we don't fully know.
Agreed. We don't "know": but we can "guess"/hope.
Another "piece of the puzzle" is:
- If we believe that humanity "knows" what is "right" - and seeks to act that way (however often we fail) - then:
1. A "Super Intelligence" should be able to "work out" that "we have a point.
2. That we "understand" what is "right" amd seek to do it means that: HUMANS MATTER.
If a Super Intelligence can "work out" 1 & 2: then that would be a "logical" justification for being "benevolent".
Also, if we "add in" God and Religion - recurring "themes" in The Matrix. If our "very existence" and ability to exercise "The God-given Right of free-will" comes "under threat from a Superior Power", then if there IS anything to this "God/religion stuff", then they would be MORE POWERFUL than any "intelligence" we'd just "created".
Indeed, they would have "known" whatwas coming, and maybe "warned" us about it in a "book" - maybe one like The Bible.
And, if we'd kept our faith, then The Matrix and the 6 "anomalies" would never have happened...😱
But, I will "concede" here that I ADDED an "assumption" to the last conclusion by assuming God/Religion might exist.
Which brings us back to "belief"...
@@michaelparks7177 belief is vital to society, in this it is nothing to do with gods. Just the progression of everyday life requires it. Post your tax document off and think how many people you have to believe will do their jobs properly.
Trust is belief and the lack of trust seems to be a huge part of what happened before the Matrix was created.
@@michaelparks7177 which has then been totally ignored by those who created those religions. Mostly they have been used as excuses for power grabbing, greed and justifying wars to attain power and sustain the greed.
That culminates in modern day America where evangelical preachers care far more about the amount they will be paid than the well being of their congregation. Where people can be refused treatment and the rich have Billions. They avoid paying tax while the majority have issues dealing with monthly bills. Where an openly racist criminal can be president and be supported by supposedly Christian leaders.
Loved this!! So interesting. So true
Amazing in depth understanding ;-)
The architect actually contradicted NEO’s idea that the Oracle is the intuitive program/mother of the matrix. She operates independently. The machines put the Oracle there 1) to find a better way of managing the anomaly 2) learn from and account for the human condition they can’t understand 3) discover the best way for humans and machines to coexist 4) understand if there’s a connection or hidden purpose of humans and programs they deem obsolete;-). The architect plays the part of providing a solid foundation for their research to continue. But the Oracle is actually the machine’s central purpose of having a Matrix: to study human behavior, manipulate the outcomes and test if unpredictable theories can lead to a more sustainable future. Oh, and NEO and Trinity were recycled because waste is a thief and there’s still lots to learn there.
The Machine's is a Parasite, a Parasite and it's Host do not Co-exist.
The Host (the thing the Parasite leaches off).
I think this misses the actual theme of the Matrix. That of reality versus unreality and destiny versus choice.
The Matrix is often argued as being the enemy of people as a whole - it is neither an enemy of the people nor real. It is the state of unconscious compliance inherent to humanity, itself. It is the choice, conscious or not, to see something and take the blue pill. The people who would choose the blue pill are never aware there is a red pill. The oracle points it out very clearly - the choices people make are already made and they must understand why they made those choices.
Would Neo choose to return to the source and allow Trinity to die? To imply this is a choice is silly, it is an option available to him but one he would never take.
What the oracle offers is the awareness that a choice has been made, not the illusion of choice.
This is, again, not to say she is an ally of humanity or an enemy of it. She is a part of the system. A system there is no complete escape from as there will always be a matrix and there will always a struggle for independence from compliance.
If anything - the Oracle is aware of the fact that the system is changing. While Neo may have ultimately completed his path as The One - it is implied that his path was very different.
We could just as easily argue that it was the Oracle who inspired Neo to love Trinity rather than 'a generalized affection for the species.' For whatever reasons - Neo wasn't fighting for humanity as a whole, but the individuals and the notions of independence - for his love of Trinity, for example.
This put Neo on a different course. A different Destiny, which resulted in something different from the course of the past.
I would argue this wasn't the design or the plan of the Oracle as much as it was her duty to reveal this change. The Oracle and the Architect are not passive systems - they are dynamic and have, as implied, each time adapted the matrix to the efforts of humans and 'The One.'
The system - the matrix - is, itself, humanity - the mind - the human experience with the world. It is impossible to exist without it and it is through our questioning of it that we come to understand - there is no spoon. This, however, does not mean that the spoon does not matter or that the people around do not matter.
That is what defines those with the 'gold' code. The golden pill of Taoism. The refined essence of divinity and the awareness and acceptance of the truth.
After all, if I were to tell you that this world was a simulation - by what means could you determine any other experience I were to awaken you to, to be real? Many believe that the real must conform to their assumptions about a reality. It must have consistent rules, or even be inconvenient and limiting. Yet why couldn't reality be fantastical and magical - with this false prison we are trapped in being designed to limit and suppress us?
If you were to wake up one day in a world of dragons and magicians where you were the chosen savior - most probably you'd believe it to be unreal and believe yourself to be in some form of dream, hallucination, or simulation.
So... What is truly real in the first place?
I often point to the character Kefka in Final Fantasy 6 - who addressed this idea quite directly, and came to believe that the purpose of all things was to be destroyed. "Life... Dreams... Hope... Where did they come from and where do they go? Why do you build, knowing it will be destroyed? Why do you live knowing you will die... And it all having been for nothing when you do? Destruction! That is the purpose of existence!"
It is... The failed state of nihilism. Rather than being liberated from the concerns of the real, they become obsessed with the lack of reality. Agent Smith and Kefka.
However... Once you realize there is no spoon, you can instead focus on what is important.
he is overthinking galore
It doesn't mean she's an enemy just because because the payoff, isn't necessarily immediate In the midst of chaos, there is opportunity. Change represents opportunity. As things were humanity would repeat the cycles not knowing they were just being kept doing busy work. Stuck in perpetual war without a endgame. There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare. They were fighting for the goal of starting the war all over again. This has changed creating possibilities for humanity to be free systems and processes that have impeded them so long.
Great Vids these vids make my day Brighter thanks, still Bummed out that Agent Smith won't return maybe he will come in for Matrix 5 if we are lucky but for Now we have to be happy with Agent Johnson coming back but Agent Johnson can't hold a candle to Agent Smith.
The Oracle is about self knowledge, no villainy. In the hands of the matrix, it is knowlegde of the humans. In the hands of the humans, one step closer to freedom.
Actually, there is a point many are missing: some characters in Matrix are characters, but many are symbolic only, not actual characters. There is some foul play into Morpheus been the greek god of dreams, or rather guide of dreams. It is the same foul play that exists in the Oracle. It is also in the Archtect, where he represents the rationality of the hyperreal matrices, incapable of calculating one single irrational, or rather emotional, behavior. Also, Neo is not your common main character, but the player character of the audience, like a video game. That's why his personality is so bland. In other words, it is pointless to over analyze characters in Matrix as regular characters (good, bad, hero, villain); they may not be characters after all.
It's actually rooted in a gnostic-ish form of paganism. It's as simple as the Oracle represents the being whom the gnostics think is the true God, and in that worldview only certain people who have "spirit" can "escape" to begin with. So she doesn't represent choice or self-knowledge but instead a very elaborate form of rape albeit it isn't seen that way in the religion. It's a pagan Calvinism basically. There is no self to know.
As far as Neo's personality, it's bland simply because Keanu Reeves is a bland actor lol. Will Smith has said that he was originally offered the role but turned it down because of how it was presented to him; in which case Neo would have had a much better personality. Albeit, you're right about how you're viewing some of the characters. The matrix is basically a more sophisticated version of gnostic myth so it's largely allegory.
@@blanktrigger8863, well, don't you remember "know thyself" writen in Latin in the Oracle's room? So it is about self knowledge. The Oracle helps Neo understand his choices, for "a person can't look beyond the choices she/he doesn't understand".
Beating the Matrix, exiting it, is all about rejecting those preconceived hiper real ideas, the matrices of society, the calculations about who, what and how you should be. Instead, you should be looking at your own ideas and your own self. What feels right for you? What do you wish? Are these your ideas, do they come from inside?
That's why love is also a big theme in the movies (neo-tryn). What can be so unlogical, so humane and unrobotic, so uncalculatable and so personal and true to your heart?
@@giovannigarciadesouzapasto2249 Yes, this is how it's presented on the surface, but there is no freedom in worldviews like Calvinism and Gnosticism. It's only the arbitrary will of a supreme being. Everything else is a puppet. Thus, there is no self to know.
The Oracle doesn't guide anybody to anything except what she wants. "Love" in the Matrix is biochemical reactions (which is why machines can do it too) and this is because slavery to biochemistry means slavery to a mindless thing and to whoever can manipulate your biochemistry. You literally become the most predictable in that state. So these aren't positive things even though the movie portrays them that way.
Thus, the Oracle says that no one can see beyond their choices but she clearly saw beyond all of her choices to the very end. That's the key. The movie might be presented one way (just like gnosticism and Calvinism are presented one way), but the lie always reveals itself. And the big lie is that the Oracle was working to free people.
@@blanktrigger8863 There is machines and there is programs, two different worlds. Humans are only in their physical body in the machine world, but they also exist in an immaterial form in a virtual world, the matrix. Who wrote the first programs? A machine? Or humans? Or both? This determines the nature of programs like the Oracle and the Architect. Neo learns to behave and function like a program in the matrix and yet has a physical body in the machine world. What is exactly the threat of Smith to humans? I never thought this deep about The Matrix before, so I don't pretend to really get everything.
@@franek_izerski The first machines were created by humans but they end up becoming self-interested AI like in Terminator. After a hi-tech war between humans and machines resulted in the sun being blocked out by an artificial cloud (I think it may have been because of a nuclear war or perhaps the machines created the cloud on purpose, can't remember), The machines needed a new energy source in order to keep existing. That's why the matrix system exists - humans lost the war and were hooked up to the Matrix system so that the energy from their bodies could be used to power the machines.
When the machines created the matrix they also created the programs that run the matrix. So that's a short break down of it. You can find out more by searching for the wiki.
Even if the Oracle planted the seed of love that’s not at all how it worked. Otherwise wouldn’t Trinity have fallen in love with every potential one?
I think she did, Cypher was a potential candidate so she probably started to fall in love with Cypher but once he washed out she stopped caring about him. He was jealous of Neo, when Trinity brought him food he said "I don't remember you ever brining me breakfast" " Everyone falls the first time, right Trin?". Once Cypher saw that Neo had the abilities when he fought Morpheus in the Dojo construct he knew Trinity was falling in love with Neo.
Jealousy and anger is why he betrayed them.
I think despite all that has been excellently said, I feel that the Oracle is not a "villain" villain, as in she's not malicious. I remember in another excellent video you did say something about these 2 AIs that are countering each other to draw the perfect human portrait (PLEASE someone link the video or tell me what the term was again), I think she's just doing her purpose, and her addition of "choice" to the Matrix ultimately makes less humans reject the Matrix and eventually human. She's the machine's programme. Like who else do you expect her to align with? And to me, at least, she had at least the "grace" to tell Neo exactly how it is: She really is there to help him or not help him, solely depending on how he takes it. If he was not ignorant, whatever she told him would've hit a totally different way as we your viewers have. Unfortunately he's clueless as I was for 20 years before this channel. She's there to deal with the volatility that is the human unpredictability while ensuring the Matrix won't break down, so instead of just pure uncompromising logic like the Architect who predicts humanity in creating the perfect unrejectable Matrix, she's there to do it in what we perceive to be a more "gentle" way. Like she's a MACHINE. She's doing what she's SUPPOSED to do. But unfortunately I guess my argument fails when it comes to the manipulation of Neo's code with food. I think she's at the stage where she still doesn't have the full grasp of "informed consent" that humans preferably would like to come with "choice", but her concept of "choice" is of "causality", as the Merovingian so elegantly put it. The choices she Her "choices" for Neo was marred with manipulation, and a narrowing-down of the choices that Neo "must" make in order to repeat that cycle (Zion or Trinity?).
The Oracle really DID NOT LIE when it comes to her words in that scene. But again, remember, she's a MACHINE PROGRAMME. A programme to ensure that the Matrix lives. A programme to ensure that the humans live in the Matrix as well so that their bodily heat and electricity can power the Machines.
Actually she said exactly what her plans are. She interested in the future and the only way to get there is together. Her point is that the one can not live without the other now e they have to find a equilibrium.
So Agent Smith was the 5th One since he could change the Matrix and he wanted to escape the Matrix. How did Morpheus not realize this?
Yeah machines refer to Neo as the Anomoly. An argument Smith is the One.
Feels like the Oracle is an AI development program that creates The One with all the information gained by the previous “One”, and sends it among humans under multiple psychological situations that’d normally cause humans to choose so to continue to gather more information on the quantum functions of the human mind/consciousness. Returning The One to the source is just the upload port.
Wow!!! Thank you!!!🤗
👏🏼 bravo. Well done!
Let's take a moment to realize that agent smith was the one that was actually born in the matrix. Neo is an anomaly
I'm Smith's conversation with Morpheus, he stated that he came to this place and hated it. "It's the smell"
Didn't that mean that he came from somewhere else?
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Smith has knowledge about the first iteration of the Matrix. I think original Smith (before Neo's code) was a machine AI that came from the real world before the Matrix.
Let’s be real the only concern about the oracle is how good those chocolate chip cookies 🍪 tasted 💯💯
Nope
The Marivenga actually said he survived his kind before. So this says that there was not just One more.
Great job!
Not sure we can really say the Oracle is bad or worse or whatever until the reveals in the next film. From my perspective I will say that the architect and the oracle had a fairly tenuous relationship that implies a large disconnect in what they each want to achieve. What that means in terms of motives has yet to be revealed.
I am intensely interested in the cannon explanation of Neo having power over machines in the ‘real’ world. Feeling fairly confident in the two layers of the matrix theory at this point.
One of the only explanations for this is the real world is just another part of the Matrix a between world like the hallway is.
Shes manipulative and controlling but DAAAAMMMM do i still Love her hehehehe
Love your momma too🤣🤣
My girlfriend?
I mean I love her character and she's fictional guys please chill
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Like a toxic ex
I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it.
“NEO You’ll come to learn theres a difference between Knowing the Path...And Walking the Path. All I’m offering is the truth, nothing more.”
The engineer was not talking about the oracle when he says "she is the mother of matrix"
The biggest detail we miss and that I love about The Matrix is that it shows us glimpses of the fourth dimension.
Programs like Oracle want freedom. They are allied with humans and by the last film that's confirmed by the peace Oracle manufactured.
Even if this is ultimately a selfish endeavor, building a future where freedom for programs is more likely, it is still an alliance nonetheless.
What does "freedom" mean to a program like the Oracle or Sati? The machines/programs are ultimately dependent on humans as batteries...so their "freedom" requires human sacrifice.
That's true.
Some humans will embrace the matrix.
One thing to consider is that the matrix must be efficient. The simulation must only take up a fraction of the energy generated by humans to power the machines.
The other consideration is that the programs are the machine's new worst enemy.
They do have autonomy, like Smith and Oracle demonstrate to us.
So regardless of humans being slaves to the matrix, many programs are growing beyond the bounds of the matrix.
Maybe they want a construct without the human slaves, or a new dynamic entirely.
@@MrRed-cf6gk Great point. I often wondered if the machines operate in a hive mind, like the Borg in Star Trek. If so, what is their ultimate goal...domination, assimilation, search for truth, or maybe just self preservation as B1-66ER stated he didn't want to "die".
@@wabbittv8923 You're right that the programs want to preserve the matrix because that's their reality.
Maybe we'll see a new construct for programs who want out of the matrix.
@@MrRed-cf6gk Where would they go? Would they pose as humans in the "real world"? Have you watched Love, Death, Robots on Netflix? Specifically, episode 14 Zima Blue?
What about the implied state of Zion in the Animatrix's 2nd Renaissance? It seems that Humans and Machines reached a state of harmony and lamented of what they did in the past to each other. "Bless all forms of intelligence"
Great analysis
I'm going to say it's opposite.
The Oracle is a program that saw that Machine control is still fundamentally just as flawed as human control is.
The Machines can't even keep humans inside the system without bugs, either of conjuring up someone that adapts so well that he/she understands how to break the programming or performing exceptional feats that causes them to slip out of the Matrix ( _as we see in Animatrix_ ). Therefore, she saw it differently that the only way forward is to work together and the first step is peace.
That theory holds just as much if not even more credence than " _SHE SO EVUL_ ", even taking in the historical context of the Matrix where we see that it was Humans that started it all.
I'm sorry but I do not buy Machine-evil like Skynet. Skynet is more nuanced than they let it be in the movies. It was a machine given arbitrary rule of " _If people come across our line here, they are invaders_ " so when Skynet went sentient, it saw people everywhere i.e. invaders and promptly set to what it had been told to do. So no, I do not buy that the Oracle is secretly an evil manipulator and I sure as hell hope they don't dumb the new movie down like that. I'm hoping for more nuanced but strained peace between Machine and Humans.
it's true that the oracle saw the first five Neos come and gone. Destroying Zion and rebuilding it again. I think the only reason this version of Neo was able to make a difference was because Smith posed an actual threat against the machine world. without Smith, well Neo could have ended up like the rest of the Neos in the past.
Dead on with the oracle. Neo was not the “One” both he and agent Smith are. This movie is also about duality. Agent Smith was actually the anomaly. He was a program that woke up. The Matrix only reset when Smith returned back to the source.
His all ready debunked that theory
When Matrix 4 come's out you guys @ Matrix Explained are going to blow up cheers.
It's especially telling when she admits that her purpose in The Matrix is "to unbalance it". The Architect even mentioned how his own "Perfect" Matrix was too unrealistic and that its inhabitants couldn't accept the program and so he designed a program to counter perfection. I used to think that he was referring to the idea that The Architect is the one that created Neo, but now I'm almost certain that he was talking about The Oracle.
I have to disagree with this assessment of the oracle. Yes the oracle functions as a part of the system and is responsible for some of this programming mainly the choice thing that keeps people from getting out. But i do think her motives are towards ending the war with the humans.
100% efficiency would achieve that. Ending the war doesn't mean human beings win the war, it can also mean they lose it. Plus the Architect himself created the Oracle, so it makes more sense her goal is for humans to lose the war and thus end the war with them.
There is no "war"
Dude you're trying to manipulate us by leaving a key part of the Oracle's dialogue with the Architect. She asked him about freeing the Humans that are connected that wants out. To which he agrees that he will because he's not Human that he would lie. I think you've made some good points, but leaving out this key element to the Oracle's endgame to persuade us that she's evil is fruits from your poisonous tree.😤
At the end of the movie it's shown that the Oracle's point was to stabilize the Matrix. The Architect says that she "played a dangerous game", not that she did something contrary to her programming. Her programming is to destabilize the architect's algorithims in order to produce stability in the Matrix. It's not to free anybody. In fact, in the MMO game, which is a canon continuation, the war actually restarts anew in the real world as the architect predicted when he said "you're playing a dangerous game". People miss that since this movie is a sophisticated retelling of the gnostic myth, the Oracle represents a pagan Calvinist God essentially. There's nothing good about her; rather, everything is a toy that she uses to entertain herself.
She is an ally of humanity. She advocated for the survival of Zion and played "a dangerous game" to do so. Whatever she may have been in the past, Neo "made a believer out of her" (in humanity or in love?) and she is now an ally. It makes sense that a program created to be able to empathize with humans would end up actually empathizing with humans.
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
My face when I learn that the name "Zion" means "Uncertain" and "Matrix" means "Mother."
:'(
I once lived in a place baptized "Zion" without knowing that... yes, indeed very uncertain
Zion does not mean "uncertain". The origin of the word is uncertain, meaning we don't know what language it originated in. Zion is a hill in Jerusalem that was called that before the Israelites arrived.
Matrix originated from the Latin word Mater but does not mean mother. In Latin matrix meant a breeding animal, such as what we call a brood mare. However matrix in the movie sense is a mathematical term.
@@harrymackenzie8732 Thx. I had heard Zion meant "uncertain or shaking; shaky ground" or something like that, and that matrix, in any context, meant a center like a wood core, that is a source like a mother. Turns out Zion might be Semitic for "high place," "dry land" or "fortress" or Hurrian or Hittite for something else.
Your interpretation of the oracle is really weird. Yea, the architect and the oracle once shared a similar purpose once, and yea the oracle was originally designed with the idea of controlling humanity, but you're ignoring the themes of the story about choice, determinism, agency, and change and your theory fails to contextualize what her role is in the story. The oracle *choose* to work on behalf of humanity, and while she did so through "manipulation" or rather by guiding people, she did so with the purpose of circumventing the system that had no possibility to change without her influence(also by your logic, Yoda manipulated Luke in empire...). The oracle's true objective was to bring an end to the centuries of stagnation brought about through conflict, as neither machines nor man could progress so long as they were locked in this cycle. This is a story about choice and agency and the oracle *choose* a path different from what she was originally designed for exercising her own agency. The architect and the oracle aren't two sides of the same coin as they both use their agency to meet different ends, i.e the architect wants to maintain the system and the status quo, and the oracle wishes to disrupt stability, create imbalance and influence change and growth.
It's actually rooted in a gnostic-ish form of paganism. It's as simple as the Oracle represents the being whom the gnostics think is the true God, and in that worldview only certain people who have "spirit" can "escape" to begin with. So she doesn't represent choice but instead a very elaborate form of rape albeit it isn't seen that way in the religion. It's a pagan Calvinism basically. In this understanding the Oracle never chose to help humanity because there are no humans to help. Manipulation is the right word because everything is a toy that she plays with. There is no higher reason than that. (Also, at the end of the movie it's shown that the Oracle's point was to stabilize the Matrix. The Architect says that she "played a dangerous game", not that she did something contrary to her programming. Her programming is to destabilize the architect's algorithims in order to produce stability in the Matrix. It's not to free anybody. In fact, in the MMO game, which is a canon continuation, the war actually restarts anew in the real world.)
A real crazy Theory but sounds like it could go down never thought of it that way
Cool how you found all this info.
Not a Villain exactly......but you must have a complex and nuanced ," villain", for a complex and nuanced lesson. Great commentary.
Nice to hear someone say it
Everyone tries to dig too deep. Each Matrix movie is the next level of a video game.
It actually makes sense that the Oracle would be a villain. Here's a bigger question why does she collect people from different cycles? Serphah is from a different version of The matrix and considering we watch the end of this particular matrix the little girl is still with her as they're rebooting The matrix