“Racism, Election Theft, and Self-Help” with Scott Adams and Noam Dworman
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- My guests today are Scott Adams and Noam Dworman. Scott Adams is an American writer, commentator, and cartoonist best known for creating the comic strip Dilbert. In addition to his cartooning work, Adams has authored several books and frequently comments on a range of topics from media bias to psychology to the mechanics of persuasion. Noam Dworman is the owner of the Comedy Cellar in New York and is a good personal friend of mine who has his own podcast called "Live From the Table", which is actually one of my favorite podcasts. I'm co-releasing this episode with Noam, so check out his podcast as well.
Now there is an interesting backstory to this conversation surrounding Scott's recent controversial comments and I go into the details of this in the intro to the episode. In this episode, we also address Scott's comments, we talk about mainstream media bias, we discuss Trump's efforts to overturn the election, where Scott has a very different view than myself and Noam. We talk about racism and also double standards around the kind of speech that's acceptable, given your race. Finally, we go on to discuss Scott's recent self-help book called "Reframe Your Brain: The User Interface for Happiness and Success"
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15% of Biden voter's have said they wouldn't have voted Democrat if they had known about the Hunter Biden Laptop.
There is an easy decade of Liberal Media articles about the hackability of voting machines. Machines that are banned in many parts of the world.
Evidence has NOT been reliably investigated or tried.
The suits brought by Texas and other states about the illegal rule changes, wee not heard, they were dismissed on lack of standing.
I feel #NoamDworman is wrong. Theres alot of things to worry about in America. Big pharma the Miltary industrial complex Mega conglomerate corporations like Black Rock & Vangaurd, #AI singularity, #WHO #IMF. All of these are raping the working class,taking our free speech & privacy, feeding us poison via vaccines & man made super bugs. They threaten to take away property ownership & even want to give us money they can track us with & make expired. If you got a 5 dollar bill from 1932 you still got a 5 dollar bill. #ijs Yes we gotta knock down & back this #genderideology #crt pushed on little kids & teens & the #liberal #socialjustice #identitypolitics mind set & agenda.
Love your podcast !
I got fired from a top tech company when they told us the hundreth time to hire people based on ethnicity and gender (they pushed sooo hard for having more women, girl bosses, and people of "color"). I publicly said on our internal news channels that I am only willing to hire based on competence. I was called all sorts of names, a monster, I was told that they pity my female relatives, I was called by the global work council, global HR, and local HR.
People who do not work in tech, or a similar corporate or government environment might not understand or believe what I'm talking about.
I worked at as a government contractor and then it was not diversity but nepotism. They would hire people to be network engineers (I have a degree in computer science) who had no experience AND degrees in biology, for example. I applied for a different job just to see if I would even be interviewed, They basically said they would talk to me but the job had already been filled by a help desk (phone answerer) worker with no experience in IT but they promised his dad he would be offered a better job (despite what I just said). I am very surprised we have not been hacked more due to lack of skills. Yes, I know you don't have to have a degree to do some jobs but it was listed as a requirement.
It isn’t just tech mate, you should see the state of the legal profession!
It hasn’t gotten everywhere yet: our team was looking for a new team member. My boss really wanted a woman to get some diversity going (not bad, we’re an all-male team) but all the best candidates (most fitting industry experience, work experience/maturity level, knowledge of and contacts in the relevant countries) all happened to be male. There was one female short list candidate but she was rather junior and didn’t have the same level of industry experience. In the end, my boss went for the most experienced person. Worked out great for the team.
@@davethebrahman9870now that is scary!
I work in corporate HR and I know exactly what you mean.
I told a recruiter that I would not ask questions about nor hire someone based on “diversity”. She said they just ask that, given the choice between two equally qualified candidates, hire the diverse one.
It’s BS and blatantly racist.
To summarize what Scott is saying...
I'd rather be the only black guy in a white neighborhood than the only white guy in a black neighborhood.
If that sounds racist.
You're either in extreme denial or sheltered.
But it's true.
I’ll push back a little. If it’s a poor neighborhood, absolutely. If it’s an upper middle class or gated community, not so much.
@@philipmarx1819Name one high upper class black gated community. I'm not American and have never heard of one.
@@randomcomment6068 I was speaking in generalities, because violence is typically more related to socioeconomic status, but I do recall reading about one such neighborhood near Atlanta.
Personally, I never understood to desire to live among people who didn’t want you there. That’s not a support of any form of official segregation, but most folks will self-segregate. The existence of such neighborhoods should not be taken as prima facie evidence of discrimination.
@@randomcomment6068there are a lot, America is a big place. Less crime than white trailer parks. It’s all about class.
Scott is right! I was a recruiter and over and over again they tell us to hire more diverse. Over and over. It was insane. I am mixed and in my first week as a HR Business Partner they told me how excited their were that I was mixed and could bring in diversity bc of that.
I also noticed at all I mean all HR meetings, trainings and HR conferences had huge focus on diversity hiring.
I was blown away.
So glad I am not a apart of this system anymore.
Now seeing the violence. I am scared for my white family members.
Thanks for bringing Scott on.
I have worked for companies where our least competent employees ranted about the genetic inferiority and inherent evil of white people. They all attended HBCUs
You are mixed WHAT?
are you saying that You saw violence in the workplace due to diversity hiring practices?
@@elizabethk3238 mixed race: black & white
Who is coming to hurt white people not blacks or Hispanics is by other white politicians who brings this laws like immigration and big corporations owned
Adams is not racist.
He's honest.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@juicelino3867do you think he was dishonest?
This was a fantastic episode.
The only commonality between all the people who get cancelled seems to be that they're reasonable people who simply state truths that a lot of people find unsavory.
Nah, some are racists, others are just truly against the 'system" and many can just be posting illegal stuff.
But yes, in general this is just because you are not far left.
I don’t think he should have been cancelled for it, but I do think the statement Scott made that got him in trouble (and I’m not just talking about a single phrase ripped out of context) was definitely off-color.
The problem I particularly had with it was that he was proposing to treat all black people in a shunning way and he was making it clear he was not being ironic
In a time of universal deceit, speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell
@@milton7763 Scott Adams can be piquant, but he's not always a model of clear thinking or communication. But you should absolutely be wary of any category of people who on average think of you as the oppressor. Also see John Derbyshire's version of The Talk, which got him cancelled. Or the late, great Walter Williams spiel on stereotyping. Which, contra Adams' completely impractical desire to ignore averages, is a completely rational and necessary way of dealing with incomplete information.
@@dava00007 So just agree that most of the time it's because they speak out against blatantly insane leftist policies and leave it at that. You started your respons
Scott is right about white oppression. Im a huge black man. I dont blame anyone of any race for being acared of me. I make an effort to be calm, gentle and polite so that no one can feel bullied. Its hard, everyone is waiting for me to have a chip on my shoulder and be angry when i meet a white person.
Jeez, reading this made me feel like we gotta get our shit together as a country more than anything else
Bro, it's similar when I go out with my darker skinned family members, there's this anticipation that they're going to go off the rails, I can see them trying harder so that others don't respond poorly to them...
It’s the black women I’m scared of.
@@komo2nenWhy do you think that is? Why do people have that expectation?
If it makes you feel any better man as a white guy your body language and demeanor are capable of immediately diffusing any thoughts of you being aggressive like that. So it only takes a second or 2 before people realize you arent THAT type of black guy. I'm sure it's the same when you meet a white guy who smiles at you genuinely and you realize they don't hate you for being black, only takes a second. Shitty social dynamic for you to deal with that sucks.
It is refreshing to listen to a podcast where the two inquisitors are actually significantly familiar with the work of the person they are interviewing. often times we see interviewers that are not familiar with the subject matter and are just reading questions written by someone else. I was also impressed by the. sincere spirit of exploration without agenda of a conversation.
Ditto
You are so right - why is that the case? Why do so many Podcasters not put the effort that is needed?
@@elvisofdallas It's more work than they have time or inclination to do.
In this case they didn't have to do a great deal of research since they had long familiarity with Adams.
I find Scott Adams to be 100% normal. I don’t detect any malice and he is a person actively engaged in society wanting to make life better for everyone. I enjoyed the interview.
He is just doing the math.
I like Scott too but at times he's gone off the rails a bit on his podcast, specifically on this topic with trump losing the election. I am also pretty sure that at least he acts like persuasion is the only important thing
I've never found any Dilbert strip to be in the least bit biased except a possible bias against pointy-haired bosses.
Well he's got all the persuasion techniques to persuade you
SAdams reminds me of a lawyer, skilled at introducing doubt into the minds of a jury...
in favor of his client Trumps innocence, legitimacy, etc.
Noam is dead wrong about it not being a part of the white identity to fight a certain way. The duel, knights fighting one on one to determine the outcome of a battle. Cowboys facing off one on one in the middle of town. It's in western literature, history, movies, etc.
lol, white trash fight as dirty as anyone, rich white folk fight dirty with lawyers.
Person of nose doesn’t want whites to work together, a story as old as time.
And yet we also have lynch mobs, pogroms, riots, etc. People will focus on whatever will support their preferred narrative. If someone believes that white people are more noble and honorable than others, they'll focus on the duels. If their narrative is the reverse, they'll focus on the mob violence.
This is retarded lol
Well Noam is Jewish, an identity he holds above Whiteness. He just is anti-White
When the person calling out racism is called racist you know how stupid things have gotten
What example are you commenting about ?
Great conversation. I thoroughly enjoyed this.
I had an experience at a job years ago: I am a white male. My desk was next to an older black female. We would regularly banter and joke through the years that we worked together. I am a jokester. I loved to make her laugh. At the time, I had long hair and played in a band. Because we both loved music, we would talk about music that we shared a love for: Earth Wind & Fire, Kool and the Gang, Marvin Gaye. She used to tell me “You’re white chocolate”. I took it as a compliment - and I believe that she meant it as one.
At some point, I got tired of long hair and shaved my head. When I came into work, she was visibly surprised. I asked her what she thought. She said, “You look like a racist.” At first, I laughed, because I thought that the years that we had interacted had demonstrated that wasn’t true. I thought that she was just chiding me. She wasn’t laughing though. Her demeanor towards me changed. The wall that was raised was palpable.
I’ve thought about this often since. I think it’s an interesting lesson about bias. I made a small change that triggered a strong reaction. I wonder if that the fact that I had long hair made me an outlier - and therefore opened the door to the possibility that I was one of ‘the good white people.’ When I had a shaved head, I looked like someone who could be mistaken for a skinhead.
She had lived most of her life in the south - and had come up at a time where racism was an existential threat. Bald white men were often the perpetrators. It makes sense that she would have an aversion to bald white men - as it was necessary to her safety.
In her defense, I rationalized the experience like this: If every time I had been beaten up in my life, it was by someone wearing a red shirt, I would have a sensitivity to people wearing red shirts. It wouldn’t matter that not everyone wearing a red shirt beat me up - rather - every time I had been beaten up it was by someone in a red shirt. Rather than spending time trying to determine whether I was dealing with a ‘good red shirt’ or a ‘bad red shirt’, a sure-fire way of minimizing harm, would be to avoid red shirts altogether. There is no stronger instinct than our instinct to survive. I believe that my shaved head - in some way - triggered a survival mechanism in her.
Sorry for the long comment. I’d be interested in thoughtful discussion on this.
Nicely said. I often make a similar point that individual biases are ubiquitous, but they aren’t crimes & shouldn’t be treated as such. It’s only when someone infringes on another’s rights that it becomes serious. If you were a veteran in a Japanese POW camp, you might not be so fond of Japanese people: Not a crime, just a bias. We all have biases.
This was a very interesting post and I sympathise with your situation. For the record I am a black person who was born and raised in a majority white country.
I think it is a credit to you that even after your experience, you went out of your way as much as you did to see things from the woman’s perspective. I am not so generous.
She said you looked like a racist, which I assume she would describe as someone who negatively judges someone based on physical characteristics/appearance. She judged you based on your appearance and to make it worse she knew who you were as a person.
I believe she was being illogical and hypocritical and I’m not as willing as you are to give her a pass. If you have been a victim of racism then I believe you should know better and not behave like the racists themselves. You have to be better than that.
At the end of the day, if she’s no longer talking to you then it’s her loss. I think she’s being shallow and needs to get out more. Not everyone with a skin head is racist.
As Scott says, for your personal safety it is ALWAYS acceptable to discriminate. ALWAYS.
That being said, if you are not in danger (you know the person who shaved his head), it's a less than optimal time to discriminate. You already know the person isn't an enemy or a danger so judging them on a haircut is pretty silly.
@@hendrixisgod777 Thank you for your comment. I very much appreciate it.
Years ago I read a book that talked about the baggage that we carry from our childhood - specifically, unresolved issues with our parents. The resolution was in essence: your parents are just regular humans doing their best. They carry baggage of their own. 'Forgive' them for the areas that they let you down - and release that baggage. I took that little lesson and searched for other areas in my life that I could apply it. With that idea in mind, I chose to focus on all of her good traits: she was a good mom and grandma. She had a wonderful sense of humor (and great taste in music 🙂). Her bias was only a tiny piece of who she was. I heard that she passed a few years ago. When I think of her, I smile.
I think most of us want the same thing: security, love, respect. We want to contribute and to be valued. We could all benefit from connecting on our similarities - rather than justifying resentment over petty differences. I think that there is an element that benefits from keeping us all fighting. Like a magician's sleight-of-hand, it's a distraction from what's really going on. The best we can do is to not get hung up on the little things - and pay attention to the big things.
Thank you again for your comment. 🙂
@@DrProgNerd sure, no problem.👍
"journalists" aren't getting the "good people on both sides" statement wrong, it's intentional.
A long time ago, I worked for a black owned bus company. At this job I was one of the few white people working there. I cannot tell you how many times these people were racist to me. They would (out of the blue) walk up and tell me things like, "See Omar? He is a Muslim and he hates white people. He believes all Muslims are superior to whites." It blew me away! I didn't even know how to respond. I was also told that when I went to my interview for the job there was a black applicant who was going to be interviewed the same day. My boss told me that I was never meant to have that job. They were going to give it to the black applicant but she never showed up for the interview and I did so I got the job. It was unbelievable how they, not once, thought they were being racist to me because I was the white person. There were other things that they would say to me but I would be writing a novel in the comment section so I will leave it here. But this whole "hiring mainly dark skinned people" to combat racism ridiculous. Everyone can be a racist. I doesn't matter what your skin color is.
Im 26. Growing up I never saw myself as identifing with being white. However, now that my race is being otherised, I do identify myself as being white. I would say I started feeling this way around 4 years ago.
Ive thought about why Ive had this shift in my way of thinking. Well, others think of me as white and Im being told thats bad. Well, I dont think its bad and I certainy didnt choose it, so in order to step back against white hatred, I own it and with pride. Kind of like a "yeah Im white, what the hell you want from me?" Attitude that I have.
I imagine this is how black people feel and have felt throughout American history.
I imagine because I am younger than Mr. Noam, and this all started happening during my early adulthood, I feel a bit more strongly about the situation. 22 to 26 are some major developmental years. I am thinking about what mine and my childs future are going to look like if we continue down this path. Hes a much older man, with a succesful life already established, of course hes less provoked. Of course hes less likely to change his way of identifing at this point in his life.
Now Im not concerned about my safety around black people. I live in a safe area in general. Im rarely concerned about my safty around any people really. Definatly protective of my small child around men. Ill never leave my child alone with a man, family or otherwise. Howerever, If you lived in an area that was high in crime, and you knew that one group overwhelmingly didnt like your group, I would not blame you for avoiding them. Hell, even if its not about safty, and just the meer fact that you knew they were likely not to want to be a friend or get to know you, why even try?
Luckily I dont live in a racially hostile area, but from what I see people saying about white people online, if I lived in a place where that was the general attitudes... yeah, Id mind my own damn business and be in my way.
Im sorry if that bothers anyone.
Oh, he's Jewish so he gets to identify as that. Not all of us pale skinned people know where the hell we came from before America. Probably came from a lot of different places since most white people are mixed.
I just don't see how you can not identify as white, when everyone calls you white. Everyone has ideas about you because you're white. It's seen as a bad thing, so now you have defend yourself because you're white. I guess I'm white, and just because I say that doesn't make me Hitler.
It’s ok to be white human and free !
@@mkm1206 it's so funny how even I think this statement maybe conveys some negative meaning. We're so trained to hate whiteness.
Yes, the thing I resent most is being forced into a self identity based on colour. We we really getting past it in the culture of the West. Then the OJ trial and Rodney King events threw everything in reverse.
AMEN
Noam at the end, commenting about Tucker Carlson's "that's not how white people fight", he says somewhere in his argumentation "as a jew" ... so *everyone* is allowed to embrace their ethnicity ... *except* whites? OK, got it.
Every word he said dripped with ethnic particularism.
I wish someone would explain why what Scott said was "wrong" without using a stupid non-starter word like "racist". If you can be both correct and racist, that we need a new definition of racist, because being correct should never be unacceptable.
Great comment
His comments weren’t racist.
We all have our idiosyncrasies, and Scott is a smart guy, but if I could give him an honest critique, it would be to dial back his self-importance a little.
There is something funny about an African American calling a European American a Colonizer in North America a place neither of their ancestors were native to.
Colonizers existed historically. Slaves were not agents of colonization.
Black Americans and white Americans are both descended from colonisers?
If you go back far enough no one is really native to anywhere.
@@andrewdevine3920 Yeah I'm not sure how it works. I believe you put your foot down and say "base" and you're now a native.
No insult to the host if this show but I think, not in an insulting judgement call, that he has not been out of the education phase of educational institutions function and how the world really works. Making a profit has become the main ends in all aspects of corporate life
Wow I was really impressed by the maturity and civility of Coleman and Noam. There were so many moments when differences of opinion or perspective seemed like they couid have elicited a knee-jerk negative response but the two men stayed cool and sane. All parties made a point to be respectful and to continually and intentionally extend goodwill to the other. I’m grateful and impressed.
Why is it that everyone is allowed an identity except people with low skin melanin levels? Naom seems to be hypersensitive in this area
Better to focus on culture and ethnic background. The issue is that US blacks like most of my family had direct cultural lineages severed by slavery. So they use black identity in lieu of an ethnic/national background like Italian or Ethiopian.
You'll be happy to know that this is an issue that almost exclusively occurs in the US. In the rest of the world people's cultural identity is based on where they were born or where their parents were born.
@@robdielemans9189I’m afraid that’s not the case anymore. There are lots of books written now, especially for children, claiming English people don’t exist, never did - we’ve always been ruled by black people & Britains too ‘white’ Last week, we were told by the msm we didn’t build Stonehenge: black people did. Same happening in France etc.
@@acollins2295 Of course British people exist, but people on your boot licking conservative identity obsessed side are the ones who have more people thinking some person if Indian descent born and raised in the UK is not really "British" Because what it means to be British to so many people is based on race.
The right is a closeted ethno state simp group.
Because white people don't have a white identity unless it is derived from an opposition to black people. They may identify with their individual ethnicity or culture, usually country of origin. There just is no natural collective. Irish, English, Australian Dutch, Jewish they identify as specific groups nothing to do with skin color.
I'm offended by the horrifying rates of black violence and grievance.
Coleman is one of those guys who is immensely intelligent and measured but is still young and hasn't realized the full extent of the evil/lies of those in power.
We've all been there.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
Coleman, first time seeing one of your podcasts and I must say this was one of the best podcast ever. You, Noam, and Scott had one of the most insightful discussions on these important issues that I have ever seen. Kudos to all of you.
It is unacceptable to view yourself as white...? Yet he has no problem identifying himself as Jewish. So some people are allowed an identity while others must not have one! I don't understand the rules.
Understandable that America would be wary of "White Identity", but we should also be wary of "Black Identity", for example, in being toxic, divisive, corrosive. "Pride" based on skin color HAS GOT TO GO! We must move past this archaic, sick racial-ism. Whatever form: White Pride...Black Pride...Brown Pride, etc. Ideally, how about American Pride? Of course, enjoy ethnically tribal pride at home or the local organized community center.
Better to distinguish between what is said in private ( or semi-private ), what is silly, like Scott pointed out, and what is a serious public claim. Partly because our Society / Cancel Culture is playing dirty, ends-justify-the-means, lies are fine as long as they win, hypocrisy is a great tool. Regarding black people being good at basketball, it's not really funny, but a general truth based on college and the NBA. Not as funny as white people eating cheese. LoL. Better to use a teasing comment about black people as a comparison.
I think what bothers many open minded, moderate white people is the asymmetry of standards. Black pride is considered a virtue, while white pride would be considered racist and bigoted. As Scott points out pride in someone’s race is ridiculous in that I had nothing to do with the accomplishments of Albert Einstein and Leonardo da Vinci just because I share the same pigmentation. One would appreciate the same standard being applied to other ethnicities and races.
Heavy facts
@@kevinmcpartland2076 it’s because black identity was built by the media . The same as lgbt is now a identity group for a political movement that people have bent the knee to, “black” People were likely the social lab test for what’s to come
You can only have pride in your Country/Countrymen if they are moral, and as history shows us, the West is only moral when it is Christian.
It’s interesting how some people who yell about not being judged by skin color, are also so proud of their own🤷♂️🤷♂️
If it’s nothing to judge, then why is it something to be proud of?
As a black man, I found nothing Scott said to be racist
Point of possible agreement: we should try to make future elections more transparent and auditable.
100%. How could anyone argue against this unless they like them not being transparent and auditable.
According to the media, voter ID is racist. 😂
Unfortunately, election transparency gets broadcast as voter repression by media, and politicians.
I’m a fan of both Coleman and Scott. Not familiar with Noam, but I thought his questions were sincere. They were pointed but honestly came across as curious rather than “tryna getcha”. Very well done good sirs!
not knowing Noam at all, he came across as programmed by leftist media and hatred toward conservatives when he was asking questions. It was possible that he was speaking for a portion of his audience or a greater combined audience in general, and he was asking questions that everyone needed answers to. I think Scott was a bit evasive when it came to answering why he said that white people should fear black people, etc (not trying to mischaracterize, so much as highlight a potential mischaracterization that's occurred). I feel like Coleman came to Scott's rescue more than once to keep the flow of the podcast going and to honor his guest.
Overall very interesting. I think the three of them had a very curious interplay.
Not familiar with Noam or Scott, but Scott is the one grounded on facts and logic, while Noam comes from constant ad-hominems. Quite repulsive, actually.
0:08: 🎙 In this episode of Conversations with Coleman, Scott Adams and Noam Dorman discuss the Biden family corruption scandal.
16:23: 🤔 The speaker discusses the difference between an insurrection and a coup, suggesting that an insurrection is a more free-form rebellion while a coup aims to change power by installing a new leader.
24:17: 🔍 The speaker questions the logic and auditability of elections, suggesting that it would be extraordinary if all 50 elections in America were run correctly.
31:59: 🎙 The speaker claims to do a better job debunking anti-Semitism than the ADL and discusses the credibility of experts.
39:54: 💼 The speaker discusses the importance of accurate data and projections in the business world.
48:26: 📰 The truth is often found in what is left out of the news, as both left-wing and right-wing media tend to omit important information.
56:22: 🗣 The speaker, who is a political figure, discusses being cancelled without anyone asking for the context behind it.
1:04:08: ✅ The speaker has never experienced discrimination from black people but has faced discrimination from white people.
1:11:30: 📚 The speaker discusses their concept of 'reframing' and how it can be used to address racism.
1:19:23: 👥 The video discusses the debate around racial preferences and special treatment in government policies, emphasizing the importance of personal responsibility and alternative routes to success.
1:27:11: 📺 The speaker finds it unacceptable that Tucker Carlson identifies himself as a white ethnic and believes it affects his views.
1:35:09: 🤝 Navigating friendships with people you disagree with in public can be challenging and requires establishing credibility and maintaining a level of subjectivity.
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It’s very encouraging to see Coleman respectfully challenge others and yet carefully consider exactly what they are saying. Admittedly this is very difficult for most people to do. Coleman gave his guests time to explain their thoughts without rushing to conclusions - while still setting the bar high or accepting anything foolish- well done.
That anyone is offended by Scott' Adams comments tells me that you don't watch enough of Scott Adams to get Scott Adams.
No I don’t think that’s it.
@1:26:44: I would like to ask Noam why there's one group on the planet that can't have an identity.
Love the thumbnail it's a perfect vignette the white person accused of the "crime" of racism, the black moderator to play the victim, and the jew overseer to act as judge and jury
Can't believe no one has commented on the horrendous listening experience it is with this amount of delay on the call. Not only are people talking over each other without realizing, Coleman's audio is sometimes heard _before_ what's being said by the other party, somehow. This is not the first time it's been like this either. Please step it up in the technical department! Otherwise interesting conversations, as always.
That was horrible - saw your comment before hearing that part - wow that was messy
@@elvisofdallas unfortunately there's not just one moment like that, the whole episode is riddled with them. You'd hear Coleman laugh at a joke you yourself haven't even heard yet, and then that'd be followed by his voice speaking over that very joke. I don't even understand how this sort of thing happens, and also not caught in editing.
It seems that Coleman's footage is recorded separately from the zoom call or whatever they use, and the editor is doing a bad job of piecing it together.
Also Scotts voice as recorded augmented a whistling sibilant "s" sound that is nowhere to be found in his own podcast
Fair point. Some very pregnant pauses at key moments.
White European is also a group culture it doesn't mean anyone thinks their culture is better than another -- all people feel comfortable in their own culture group like they do with their extended families
Can’t we assume Tucker meant honorable white men don’t fight like that? Just like honorable black men don’t fight like that. That’s exactly how the Italian guys in my high school fought who went on to careers in the mob
Honor is not distributed evenly across all populations unfortunately.
not sure you can. this doesn't mean tucker is the anti-christ
This was an amazing discussion. What I learned about Scott Adam’s cancelation and how he reads the woke race narrative was very interesting. Excellent discussion all the way around! I’m now subscribed to Coleman Hughes channel. Very good podcast!
I have been a fan of Scott Adams for years, Locals, coffee w/SA, read and bought books, gave them as gifts. Enjoyed seeing him on this podcast that I only heard about through Scott. Another thought provoking interview - thank you
New Scott Adams "fan" here but often listen to his daily show ans subscribed on locals - agree that this was interesting and now I know about Coleman and Noam
Being white, when I was younger I really didn’t think about racial solidarity but now I think it’s critical that whites also see them self as a distinct group which has distinct Interest just as other groups do.
Wow…inviting Scott Adams to your show. Brave. VERY brave.
Indeed. Why the need to lower the bar so much?
@@slider292 No. Scott is an intelligent contrarian voice. I don’t agree with everything he says, but he’s worth listening to.
I don't think it's brave, I think it's a man with a willingness to listen and understand. He's not beholden to mob, the way a man should be.
Sad day when this is what you call bravery
@@blackthoughts8672 hard facts
This reminded me to resubscribe to scott adams on Locals.
My feelings were hurt by Scott's true statements
You know what, even if it's a proper joke, there's something to learn from this.
For example:
Hurting people matters.
Truth hurts.
And the like.
This is actually stuff to be considered, if we wish to do well overall.
=> Conveying and/or understanding truth is not necessarily a trivial/easy thing to do.
Even if it seems simple enough at first.
Why does it hurt?
Is there a way around it?
If there's no way around feeling some measure of pain/disappointment, could we perhaps make it hurt *less,* and still manage to transmit a proper narrative, instead of the ubiquitous (within politics/media/entertainment/education/business) racist lies/brainwash?
Making fun of people who are hurting won't necessarily move us in a positive direction, in and of itself.
Proper teamplay needs more than that.
More of stuff that's *better,* in fact.
Pain and truth alone are not worth living.
😅😂 man is reaction ary
He made plenty of conspiratorial statements without evidence too but sure.
@@samij6071 Why bother saying that without naming one?
@@gandydancer9710 his insistence that there was election fraud in 2020. There is no valid evidence that there was fraud, which has been admitted by virtually every major player in the election fraud hoax (which is what it is atp). It reveals him to be just another partisan, and not a serious political thinker, imo.
He may make some valid points about other issues - but that's what any person who is trying to persuade you over to believing untenable assertions does, bc they know you wouldn't be persuaded if they presented nothing but lies and conjecture in *all* their talking points.
He goes to great lengths to explain to the audience how adept he is at the power of persuasion - but he never asserts that he (or any master of persuasion, for that matter) does so using honest tactics. As they say, if someone tells you who they are, believe them.
Once again, a masterclass in reasoning and logic from Scott. 45 min in and he’s crushing it
I saw a meme that said it all. 133 million registered voters.81 million volts for Biden, 75 million votes for Trump. Add Them together what do you get 156 million votes.
This was such a breath of fresh air and brain food. Thanks Coleman!
Racial comments don't make a person a racist when there is truth in them. The truth is sometimes very hard to accept. Let's discuss the idea rather than attack the messenger. There in lies the challenge.
1:23:00, so we can only assume that Noam strictly opposes the IDF, Mossad, AIPAC, and Israel.
But of course he doesn't. His narrative is "When you do it it's wrong, but we have to do it - so for us it's moral and good".
@@purdysanchezNot to mention Hollywood, the NYT, and the Ivy League.
About fair elections:
Much of the counting is done by machines, most of them, including the software is from a few companies having monopoly on them, and no real checks by impartial parties.
Now, cheating with these machines is so easy that if you gave control over the software or the machine to my 14 years old self or to a quarter of my classmates back then (I went to a decent IT high school), we could have devised a foolproof plan to cheat in just a couple of days.
So tell me, if the bar to cheat is so ridiculously low, do you REALLY think that politicians would not cheat?
You have to be the most naive little baby lamb to think that.
You're telling me that both parties know this and don't bring it up? In that case it must be that both parties are tampering with the machines right? It must also be true that Republicans somehow became worse at tampering after Trump's 2016 victory, which surely must have also been stolen from Hillary?
This is really silly. We'd see significant deviations in voting results vs polls for one and the entire use of voting districts would be moot if any 14 year old script kiddie could tamper with the result.
Don't forget how the mainstream media and powers that be literally admitted that they rigged the election. Time Magazine.
Also, the Democrat powers that be admitted to rigging their own primaries in 2016 against Bernie. That's rigging it in their own party....they absolutely will against the opposition party.
Is it not an obvious tell that the voting machines are run by a company called Dominion?
The counting by machines played an insignificant part in the corruption of the 2020 election.
A real conversation. An increasingly rare thing.
That was very interesting. Enjoyed it a lot.
OOf! Coleman really needs to go down the election rabbit hole a little more..
More likely that you need to climb out of it and back into the sunlight of reality.
Rabbit holes don't lead to truth. They just lead to piles of rabbit shit.
Thanks Scott, Noam and Coleman!
Loved this episode . excellent dialogue .
But ….
One thing that is so infuriating to me is Coleman and the guests having uneducated , misguided or bias opinions on the state of the voting systems in our country.
They ignore or lack the knowledge or have done the real extensive research to present the facts and evidence that there were illegal activities and laws broken. Destructive for our country on either side of the political spectrum.
Don’t offer opinions without the data and facts . Opinions mean nothing .
Congressman Gaetz had a great solution for DC to adopt a voter integrity bill for the District of Columbia as a model for all states to adopt .
Make it a holiday -
one day voting
Paper ballets
Voter ID of US citizen
Verifiable chain of custody
Possible block chain back up of ballots .
Harder to cheat - voter has some control /knowledge that their vote counted no matter the outcome .
This must happen or we will destroy our republic with tyranny.
Awesome episode!
Loved the podcast Coleman. Watched because I'm a fan of Scott Adams. Now Subscribing to you as well
Scott is basically saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely" - and apparently thats a shocking revelation to Coleman ;) - who Im a big fan of, for what that matters.
That’s not what I saw or heard at all.
The point he had made previous to 22:25 about both parties gaming the system but it wasn’t illegal - yeah no, it was LITERALLY illegal to change the voting laws in Pennsylvania without going through congress. There is a law prohibiting. And Pennsylvania changed the law so that they could do mail in voting, but they did it through an illegal process. And clearly nobody cared or knew on this panel because that was egregious.
Anything done to stop “literally Hitler” is seen as not just permissible but noble.
Thank you for pointing this out. Using "both sides do it," or "both sides are equally bad about X" is not only a cop out, but also untrue sometimes. Stop equivocating. There is one that cheats on elections far more than the other and has been doing it for most of a century and it's not Republicans.
This is a fascinating conversation if you can put your emotions aside. More of this.
Great discussion.
This was a really great chat, Coleman. Thanks, as usual. :)
Every once in a while I come to check out Coleman because everyone seems to love the guy. He's always come across to me as a leftist hack fooling gullible people into thinking he's nuanced and balanced.
Every time I'm disappointed.
A poll is done in which over half the respondents say it is not okay to be a white person. Scott Adams says given those poll results maybe white people should look out for themselves when black people are around. And Coleman says this struck him as racist. It would never occur to anybody but a dedicated leftist to think Adams' remark was racist. If over half the members of group A say that group B's existence is unacceptable, then telling group B to watch out for group A is just ordinary common sense. It takes confirmation bias and motivated reasoning to call it racist.
It is worse. I got suckered by him several years ago when he was just getting started. He had no way to receive digital pay. I mailed him a significant check to help him get going. He cashed it. Never got a thank you via email, mail, or text. He is a fraud. I was defrauded.
@@kennethyoung2221 how were you defrauded? You sent a check he cashed it.
He initially presented himself as a intellectual who was willing to explore all sides of a difficult issue by bringing on thought leaders knowledgeable in the subject matter. That is not the direction he has taken. He is an articulate man who approaches subject matters as if he were simply a more tolerable Al Sharpton. He presented himself as something he was not, and not capable of being.@@snoopyboobs
Agreed I come back about every 3 months and get disappointed by Coleman. Funny to see another w/ the same experience. Glad I came back to hear from Scott.
I certainly don't agree with Coleman on everything, but that's part of why I enjoy him. To compare him to the criminal Al Sharpton with any seriousness whatsoever is just a dead giveaway that you haven't heard him say much.
Scott Rules
17:00 this portion of your discussion, where you all take up the meanings of the words "insurrection" and "coup" illustrates one of the most powerful and insidious pillars of the assault on modern society.
The whole point of language is to facilitate the communication of ideas by providing standardized sounds and symbols with specific definitions for each. When someone uses a word, especially in a hostile or politically charged manner, the very first thing that must be done is to understand the definitions of the words used in that sentence, before any discussion of the validity of that statement can occur.
The fact that not one of you very intelligent and educated individuals could simply give a definition of these words, nor consulted a dictionary, illustrates how far gone we are.
The infiltration and adulteration of our educational systems to replace the emphasis on standard meanings of words with an emphasis on what each individual "feels" the word implies is one of the biggest coups that have been effected against us. We can't even have a national conversation to clarify what Bob says to Jim (just picking a few random names) because each small group discussing it are going to ignore actual definitions and just talk about how they feel about those words.
And the worst part is that no one is raising this point. Its importance is completely lost on the vast majority of our society. If we can't get more people on board with using standard language and consulting dictionaries instead of their intuition, we're up shit creek without a paddle!
There is definitely an assault taking place on language, but that’s not what happened here. Words like “insurrection” and “coup” do have subtleties in a way that words like “man” and “woman” do not. What happened here was totally normal and healthy: a group of people are having a conversation, someone uses a word, someone else introduces another word, and then together they clarify what they’re really trying to say. There’s nothing remotely wrong with that, and looking at a dictionary would not have helped anything, because the important part is figuring out what the person was trying to say, not settling which person was using precisely the right definition. The idea that keeping dictionaries on hand and consulting them mid-conversation would actually help solve our problems is, frankly, laughable.
Great episode, definitely a lot to cover, would love another follow up
So I just tried to find the Noam’s interview with Philip Bump on YT and turns out the only version of it I could find was deleted.
I hope that was because of copyright issues…
He’s a comic who writes a comic strip. He was making a joke that was taken out of context in order to smear him. The context of what he said includes two points which were left out of the reporting deliberately. The first is that he was joking and did not mean what he said literally, and the other part of this is he prefaced his while “if you’re white you should get away from black people” comment with “If you believe the results of this poll” and a through line of his comedy which he does on his podcast is how he doesn’t believe the results of any poll, since companies design polls in a biased way such that they will deliver a desired result. With that context understood he is not stating his earnest belief that white people should stay away from black people. His actual point was a poll had been designed cynically to create more racism. These nuances in his position are obvious to regular readers/listeners of his material, and that’s who he was talking to, they may not be obvious to the press who used it to smear him but never the less that’s all it was a smear job which relied on obscuring the totality of what he was saying. It’s really not complicated.
Then he should stick to the comics. When he condones Trump, he loses any credibility. And then you wonder what other loco schizer is going on in that head of his
Comedians do this all of the time. They shock you out of your comfort-zone by saying outrageous things, that cause you to see things in a different way.
Those who take them literally, are missing the context - deliberately or accidentally. For those who choose to do this - to validate their self-perceived sense of virtue - they are arguing in bad-faith.
He is an *unfunny comic,
Making him not a comic, but just a loudmouth.
Yeah unfunny comics get syndicated in 2,000 newspapers in 65 countries and 25 languages 😂 try again
@@Amirfleshervt "Many a truth is said in jest." - Shakespeare
Scott educating two smart people in real time
Scott Adams is a great example of a stupid person's idea of a smart person.
@@slider292I don't think you know how that comment comes across
@@tomheille5444leave him be he talks to himself in the comments all the time
@@tomheille5444 given that different people have different background preferences, cognitive biases, and epistemic methods, the comment will come across differently to different people
@nickelmouse451 that's a tautology. Anyway if someone was valedictorian in high school, made huge financial success legitimately, appears to be deeply psychologically knowledgeable and offers the best lesson around on media consumption, and he thinks Scott's not smart because he said a stupid person would think Scott's smart, then it just might be that he's the stupid one
Jeesh scotts explanation made me think differently about some of these issues.. he made really good points.
The laptop ALONE is enough to argue that the election was unfair.
We all knew that laptop was legit when Trump called it out on the debates in 2020 and Biden didn't reply with "the laptop is fake" or even "the laptop is Russian propaganda" even. Listen again to what he says: "51 people say it was fake". If someone accused you of murder, you say "I didn't murder that person" you don't say "51 of my friends say I didn't do it." We all already knew those 51 were corrupt but this just solidified it.
How fucking stupid are you to say something like that? You must be a Maga clown.
Correct, and the Left tries to obfuscate by limiting the term "election fraud" to ONLY mean fake ballots. There was fraud out in the open when 50 former intelligence officers lied about Hunter's laptop.
I agree, but there's also a separation between unfairness and fraud. The entire media machine and the willful ignorance and dishonesty of the left are disruptive to the process and unfair. But they're not really fraud either.
In my experience, stereotypes are earned. Sometimes, but not that often, the work that earns it is done by propagandists. Wooden shoes and ornate cow bells may invoke national and cultural images. So what. Some stereotypes are helpful. I knew a Japanese guy that loved stereotypes. He said people meet him and assume he was a good student, is good at math and works really hard. Then he burst out laughing. The real test is how quickly can we get past generalizations and connect with the individual in front of us.
I always tell my kids: stereotypes don’t come from nowhere.
Without transparency all we have is someone’s agenda
And how many politicians have made our election process an issue of concern?
Well done Scott for standing up to racism.
Fully concur with Scott Adams' description of the differences between left wing and right wing hoaxes.
Great episode
No, but Noam sure proved HE is, in the most grotesque, sickening, unconscionable way imaginable.
Coleman, HIGHLY recommend you forever distance yourself from this POS for all of eternity.
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WHY IS IT THAT IN SOME STATES THERE WAS MORE VOTES THEN CITIZENS. CORRUPT CORRUPT CORRUPT
Scott’s hoax explanation is refreshingly clear. Thank you ❤
I love how Scott basically argues that persuasiveness is akin to hypnosis. We've all had the experience of being under a good salesman's charm. We know it's a spell, but we WANT to believe it. It reminds me of how dog's respond to our tone, and not our words. Or how leaders influence people to do something that's against their best interest.
Scott is great, but so much better in conversations like this.
Identity politics is not a cause of a failings multiethnic state rather a symptom. It is the parasitism of the corpse of something which was once thriving.
Adams is mopping the floor with Dworman, lol
Trump has one tool. That is to say whatever people want to hear! Blows my mind hearing people make up reasons (on both sides of the trump dilemma) deeper than the simple truth!
Great discussion!
Shocker: "as a jew it's cool for me to say what you cant"
The lag that leads to talking over each other was hilarious! ;)_'
Always is!
Uuuuuugggghhh.
Annoying
"The truth is what gets left out." - very true.
Serious questions about the Big Bang and evolution - Scott Adams. Coleman’s pushback? Crickets.
Coleman is an unbelievably wise young man.
He's boring.
There are other people you can listen to if you find him boring.
Wow, unbelievably? I wonder what that means?
@@komo2nen Difficult to believe.
Ok. Thx. I'm sure your right. I never question when someone find things difficult.
Coleman, just found your podcasts! Very valuable.
I’m in Georgia. One major problem that most people dont understand is that Hollywood had moved major studios outside of Atlanta and bringing into Georgia a big confusion of ideologies and power and political differences
I dont think you need the extra intro here, Coleman.
Awesome! So many times, canceled people lose their right to speak and we are all more ignorant for it.
1/6 should be disqualifying forever.
@@rustynails68 You are a nut.
I’m a new subscriber today. New to your show after today seeing you as guest on The Glenn Show with Glenn & John McWhorter. That was an excellent conversation! I did go view your TedTalk after.
I really respect how you and guests stay completely away from broad generalizations, seek specifics and politically see both sides. I certainly wish you the best!
I don’t know what I’m missing. But the interview I watched with Noam and Phillip, was not as clear to me that Noam took him down. I lean more towards the “there’s something there” but I thought Noam’s questions, directions and assumptions were pretty terrible actually. He didn’t actually get to something worth pressing on until it was too late. And I take Phillips frustration bc I’ve had the same kind of frustration trying to get at something factual with someone in a discussion. But Noam was simply discussing things that could never be assumed by a journalist like what someone meant. Now I don’t read Phillips articles but even if he made assumptions in his articles, I still think you had him there as the smartest “expert” on the subject. And I kinda feel like he was right in saying well you’re not listening to me bc he’s giving you his answer but you’re just not liking it or don’t agree with his conclusion.
Scott Adams ran circles around these guys. And I like Coleman Hughes. The other guy I’m not so familiar with but did see him dismantle that Washington Compost “reporter”. But Adams is a level above these two in analyzing the current state of affairs in the culture and politics without the sensitivity the left has so imbedded in modern thinking. Well done Scott.
I thought they let him talk. All three are brilliant and they didn't build any straw men with regards to Scott so kudos to them.
Is delusion the right word given we were not really prepared to handle the level of mail in ballots or ascertain the identity of a voter? Shouldn’t job #1 be to make ALL voters believe in the integrity of the voting system? If not, why not? Why have a system if you’re not prepared to do that? Does one need to be an ‘expert’ to realize any of this?
Is this guy seriously slagging a guy named Tucker Carlson for identifying as white? Really?
Uh, Scott - The Source Code WAS checked - Look it up … 😂😂😂
Scott Adams does not care about that. He never will. I've watched him go from a fairly reasonable person to someone who just grifts on right-wing attention tokens. He goes out of his way to lie and make excuses for his particular fantasy to be real. But he always conveniently seems to avoid the part where there's no evidence beyond his own fictional narrative.