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Why This Logosol Mill is Awesome...And Why it Isn't
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
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I think I have seen nearly all your videos in the last year or so. Never saw a chain saw mill before.
I appreciate you leaving in the footage of the log falling and I'm glad you didn't get hurt
Thanks. Good reminder to not get in a hurry.
Brock, thank you for showing us this mill set up and giving us such a comprehensive and intelligent assessment.
Thank you
I got to help with a band saw mill a few weeks ago. It was fun and I realized I have no idea how to get the best and to most good lumber out of a log. Not as easy as it looks . Hope to try it again sometime.
Brock, u always tell the truth about any equipment .thank u for that. Keep videos coming and glad u didn't get hurt.
Thanks
Nicely done Brock! Really good breakdown of the pros and cons. This looks like a really nice option for someone that wouldn't be sawing logs day after day. Thanks for sharing! 🤠
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on it
One of your best videos Brock! This is the first chainsaw mill that I have seen that I would even consider. This one will make you think about wants and needs. This video should get lots of views and help a lot of folks.
Thank you for the kind words.
I am always glad to see your comments.
Nice honest,straight forward review. In reality probably 80-85% of us folks out here,this setup would be fine I believe. Thanks Brock
Yeah, it really was pretty easy to use on just my second attempt
I glad you showed how you dropped the log and not exclude that
Thanks for leaving the log falling off. I think it's useful for us that also almost definitely wouldn't think about that.
Thanks
It's great the way you break down the pros and cons.
Thanks for the kind words. I want to make a video that entertaining but also helpful to someone who’s trying to decide if they should spend the money on one of these.
Your presentations are great, man! Keeo up the good work!
I have M8 too. Deffo use narrow kerf, skip tooth chain. Downward slope is ok, but MUST be dead horizontal. For shorter lengths I attached 2" angle to the end of 4 x 3 and hung it over the risers. Screw couple block at the back so your log has something to push against. With short logs the clamps might not work, so use wooden wedges, that way if you saw through them no harm to chain. I like the crank system a lot, but the cord supplied breaks quite soon, so I use Kevlar string, lasts lot longer. I cut mainly oak, so the but tend is wider than the trunk, that made it harder to roll up the ramp - so for big flares I take it off before loading. I have Stihl MS880, so get most powerful you can. Uses roughly one tank for 5 cuts. Bar dips wile using on wider cuts, so get nose steering - I made my own, but Logosol sell them. Blow away chips with blower. Spray PTFE or silicon spray on the runners. Mine can do everything up to the recoommended ma x diameter, heavy English oak, and the frame etc is solid, no bending. Anything bigger, forget it, regardless of the species. I load mine with home made forks on my Kioti 40hp. {Nearly )impossible to roll them on by hand and certainly not safely, but the double line around hte trunk trick, would probably work. M8 is a 9/10 for the right sized logs, thirsty on fuel, but the wood is free! If you get one be prepared to enjoy cutting, it's a million times more ergonomic than a chain mil (Alaska) but as you say, the Alaska copes with giants better. Great honest video. Wish more of them were like you, instead of wanting to look good. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback on it. I think it’s a good well designed tool
great video . thanks for all the detail
If you mount the log with the small end to the left, as you load it, you can easily see where the saw is going to cut the log as to optimize harvesting lumber.
Thanks for a complete and honest review, the good, the bad and the ugly.
This type of milling, using a chainsaw, seems to be slow and cumbersome.
And when you consider the cost of a large capacity chainsaw, it does make one pause when comparing to a bandsaw expenditure.
Unless one has large acres of woodland to draw from and the large (expensive) equipment that goes along with logging, the idea of milling lumber seems to be less and less appealing.
I use the M7 - you have provided a fair and honest review - the one advantage with the chainsaw mill is that cuts are dead flat and square. You can go from rough cut to surfaced with one or two light passes through the thickness planner with chain saw mill. I personally use an old Stihl 090AV with 404 chain because it will cut anything including nails, fence wire and aircraft cable! But regardless of the type of mill (bandsaw or chain) you have to have powered sharpening equipment (bandsaw blade sharpener and setter or chain grinder). You need about 4 chains for a days work. The Logosol is light and easy to move - The Granberg goes to where the log is. The Granberg is for young people who do not know what back pain is yet.
I don't consider it worthwhile to cut softwood in to lumber with a chainsaw mill and it is even questionable with a portable bandsaw mill because you needed graded lumber for anything serious in most parts of the world. You really just want to cut excellent hardwood for cabinet work with these tools in my opinion.
Brother, as the owner of a F2+, you have hit the nail on the head with this review, the only thing I would add as someone who cuts the big logs too, I cant the outside off with the Alaskan mill and can usually get the cant on the logasol and square it up, I also don’t load it by hand, but you can 🙄. I subscribed because of this review, nice!
Thanks
You did a great job showing the positive attributes and limitations of this style of mill. It just proves the need for different types and options available for different needs. In my opinion, this is a high quality, lower cost option that fits in the hobbies category of available mills on the upper end due to cost.
Agreed. Thanks for letting me use it
I also just put out a 59 second version of this milling that I thought turned out really good. It’s published on all the platforms as a short.
I built 4 log houses using my chain saw. A peavey, 2 V-blocks, home made planks. (to square and keep the cut true) and and Alaskan Mill attachment. Logs were from 22 inches to 32 inches in Dia. They were ALL a min. of 22Ft long. Western White Pine. You are using a lot of complications for little if any gain. Everything here is a copy of something already proven
Great information! Thanks for sharing 🇺🇸 🙏✌️
You cut some great looking boards today!
Thanks
My uncle built a log mill like that out of an exercise machine. I kid you not Brock. When we finally get together I will show it to you and you will be blown away and impressed and you will probably laugh at it. But he has made a lot of fine furniture with it.
Sounds cool
I'd like to see that machine
Old big sway lives close to me and keeps saying he’s going to make videos with me and show offenders his equipment but he’s stalling
He also likes to ruffle my feathers, but it’s all in good fun
@@RockhillfarmYT So what you're saying is I shouldn't hold my breath to see the exercise machine powered saw mill?
Thanks for sharing your experiences with this sawmill. You're a great guy, heart felt opinions based on significant personal experiences. Your video is based on wisdom, intellect and a generousity that help us fence setters weigh though all the factors that only trying and failing will get us there. Respect. I do have a few questions on back ground. What model saw are you using? Fuel? 2 cycle oil? Why are you milling logs? What do you use the lumber for? Thank you.
I am using a 661. Standard fuel mix. I buy the Stihl brand mix and follow the instructions.
I’m milling, because it’s a passion of mine, and I want to build things with the lumber. Right now I have a huge stack of lumber that has been milled for a full year and is dry now
Just starting to use it. I built a Swing for my grandkids and cutting board for my daughter.
Next thing I want a Build is a Sawmill building to do the milling in
That’s a sweet saw mill Brock . You got a new saw 661
Good job at being humble and not dropping f bombs when the log fell like I would have!
Great video. What's the biggest diameter log you can mill with that?
good video lots to think about Thanks
Great video, I did chuckle when you dropped the log& I instantly thought paul did 2 . Great job leaving it in and greater job taking it with a grain of salt & learning from it. I think I would and could make it work but I want my son in law to have it after I die . So I think I will get a bandsaw mill . I will have him watch this though 1 st and see . I want build supplies , he wants woodworking wood . 🤪todd
Yeah, I kind of want tires of material both so I’m just trying to stockpile wood right now.
I enjoyed using this, but I have it on Loan, so the price was right
Very interesting. Thank you .
Thanks
Great review
You stepped over that crossbar shortly after setting the log back up in the cradle. If that log were to fall again at that point, you might be very painfully pinned in the frame. Safety tip: stay out of that frame below a big log.
Looks like a great economical hobby sawyer setup.
Agreed. Thanks for watching
Economical my ass !
Thank you for showing the mishap (something that could happen to anyone) you may have save several of your viewers from some pain and anguish.
Cool stuff. Are u not supposed to line up the heart crack horizontally so you don't have a crack in all the boards?
Looks like a great way to break a leg while trying to roll a log up those ramps. Otherwise I really like that mill! Good job Brock 👍
Yeah, not crazy about it and the company apparently recommends a few different methods for getting the logs up.
I just wanted to try it and see what would happen. Thanks for watching.
He is correct, it all depends on your situation, what you want to accomplish, budget, and access to timber. Since I have a tree farm it made since for me to have a bandsaw mill in it’s own building and an Alaskan chainsaw mill that I use for some applications. It also made since for me to have a kiln to dry my lumber since I’m also a woodworker that makes furniture and other items for inside the home.
Stand the last piece up and finish?
Roll the log manually??? That's what I would have tried. Especially if someone was watching. Honestly, I probably would have tried walking the log up the "steps" one end at a time. I'm secure in my manhood. Great review, Brock! 👍
Yeah, I put all the physical effort into it that I wanted to give. Didn’t look that big but 600 pounds is a lot to wrassle
Excellent demo.
Thanks
Nice!
Can you make a bench out of the 2.5 inch slab? You could stain it and give to someone you particularly favor as a present. I think that would be awesome.
I’m planning a project like that
Thanks for watching
Lot of comments kind of derogatory but accomplishing it is worth a lot
Keeps you thinking though
If, after squaring the cant, one just cuts down the log in one plane, without flipping the cant, the more the boards will cup and warp, as the grain tightens towards the center. One needs to flip the log ninety degrees every couple of cuts to keep the grain angles low. bg
thanx
You can cut larger logs by mounting the mill to the log instead of putting the log on the mill. There was a video on CZcams showing how to do that.
I had heard about that, but I ended up getting a bandsaw mill
The problem is that now in Canada, it's about 3000 for a F2 with accessories... even more. if it is robust and as easy as you tell, than i will probably buy one. I find it very difficult to cut with a chainsaw mill. I killed a Still 361 .... (was on garantie ) so the advantage of milling VS buying was lost... I think i would love to mill with the Logosol... Maybe i should by a milling chain and start again with my ol alaskan mill to see if it makes a difference... I can take a lot of time to simply mill a true 4X4 (plumb, square) ...
I found this to be a lot better than any other chainsaw milling option, but I’ve only used it a few times.
Smart not to cut that last board. 2.5" is plenty good for table legs for things like writing desks or computer desks. You can also rip 2.5" lattice strips for smaller craft projects.
I appreciate the feedback
The Ram 2500 brought me to this channel. The work ethic made me stay.
Awesome. Glad to have you.
You need a 2500# winch from harbor freight. Just wind the cable around the log and it will roll it up for you. With the remote control it will be much easier.
I’ve got a bandsaw mill now and I use a cherry picker when my tractor is not available
Ratchet it up using the top beam. 1 strap on each side should do it
Love your video. Glad to have met you at the Creators Conference. I have the HM126 with a custom trailer. You are still welcome to come check it out.
Larry
Sounds good. I had not forgot about you, but I forgot your channel name. Shoot me a text or a Facebook message
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If you have the plug in you can buy the Electric saw that comes with it
I wonder if having the far end of the mill slightly downhill contributed to the log sliding off? Gravity is evil that way.
Probably didn’t help. Thanks for watching.
Maybe you should ask the guys flying those jets behind you. Up in the sky you know the chem trail pilots. Oh crap they were Spraying sky that day
Just wondering, it's a chainsaw so why bother cutting from the same end every time? Why not just check the chain, hit your clicks, and cut back to your start position? Probably better for the bar too.
Boa tarde você poderia mandar esse projeto?
tractor first, roll log when tractor gone.
I have no audio, no sound
Check out surviving ring worm it is a you tube channel
I don’t have time to watch any videos right now, but I’ll check that out tonight.
looks like my kind of channel Just from the titles and thumbnails.
Ratchet straps at each end to pull the log up
Strip the bark. You'll be surprised at how much longer the sharp lasts.
So I guess the question is, which takes more time and energy, stripping the bark, or sharpening the chain
@@RockhillfarmYT this isn't an argument and your work is great. A person can go one step further though.. sharpening a chain more times means a new chain sooner.
This is just me, but when I run down the log with axe and draw blade, a visual inspection under the petticoat sometimes brings unexpected metal treasure. I might mention that it's not necessarily the bark, but what the bark aquires. And they're all different. Maple v pine... sycamore v locust. Judgement call. Anyway, many thanks for the vijayos and at the least reading my rant..
@kevinfoster1213 I enjoy the conversation. Didn’t mean to give or take offense.
On my band Sawmill that I run now I often chip off rotten bar or muddy bark, but not all of it
Its nice! But, It’s expensive ! Holy crap ! Its chainsaw mill ! I mean really ! They have nerve!
If the biggest thing youre buildind is a table, then it looks good😂😂😂
Honestly, that rig does work, but set up and time it takes to do it right is not worth it. A real portable sawmill makes more sense. That thing is very large and the set up can't be any easier than you are cutting that log. Thanks for the video, but that rig isn't for me either. I am thinking just a plain Jane rig for a chain saw is a better option for cutting things onsite even if it is a bit more awkward. It's less expensive and easier to set up and get going. If I had the money, I would get a real portable sawmill instead.
I have a sawmill on a trailer now
Seems like worthless way for lumber you burn up a high dollar saw in no time doing that but enjoyable video
Thanks. I tried to just share my experience and let other people make up their minds.
Burning up an expensive, so is my number one negative to this. Just don’t know how long that will hold up doing all those two minute cuts at full throttle on a regular basis
I milled many hundreds of feet of lumber (cherry, hickory, poplar) with a 20 yr old 029 . Now Im using a 362. Run sharp chain, allow proper cool downs, use about 40:1 mixture with high quality 2 stroke oil, listen your saw so you run at good rpm and you shouldn't burn up anything. Its all about amortizing the total cost of sawing over the number of board feet of lumber produced. But this includes saw costs, fuel, your time, blades, etc - it's more involved than many think and completely dependent on application. You may have a usable saw and only need a couple hundred board feet a year - an Alaskan mill might be perfect and it is available for a couple hundred dollars. If you need to mill 30"+ logs you might find that a 441 and 36" bar plus an Alaskan mill is the answer also. You want to mill 5000+ board feet a year? Better look for some log handling equipment and a bandsaw mill. And there are a thousand shades of gray in between.
Size is the only limitation with this product. I know 3 guys who built log cabins using the F-2 and 1 guy build a 24x24 Timber Frame. Come down to money, if you have the money buy a sawmill if not then think about buy the F-2 sold product.
I started off with traditional chainsaw Mills and then I went to this M8 because it was available
I now have a Woodland Mills and Sawmill and I’m really happy with it.
I enjoyed the time I spent using this logosol product
@@RockhillfarmYT They look real nice
I saw nothing 'stupid' in this entire video. What you showed was a limitation in the mill and a need for improvement in the mill design. How you say? Simple. Add a third lifting rail in the middle. Not a rail for adjustment of height of cut but just as a support for the center of the log. There wouldn't even be a need for the center rail to be ratcheted to the 1/4 inch, just raised to touch the center of a log to keep what happened from happening again.
Another obvious upgrade would be that poorly designed loading ramp. The first leg of the ramp is angled. Great idea. The second and third legs aren't angled up to the flat. Poor idea. I would also add a flip stop to the front of one of the ramps. Once the log is on the flat, the flip stop would keep it from rolling back off (as you showed it did - yet another limitation).
Sounds right to me
F2 cheapest setup i seen 2500$ before tax.. lol
you shoul be able to lift 300 pounds with your legs easily
Fat shame