How To Avoid Injuries When Rolling with Wild New White Belts in BJJ

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  • @killersalmon4359
    @killersalmon4359 Před 2 lety +51

    Back in the 90s, the blue belts where I trained all said that the best self defense training you could get was sparring with a new white belt because they would go crazy and do unpredictable stuff.

  • @PhilthyHorseRacing
    @PhilthyHorseRacing Před 2 lety +54

    We had a wrestler join once, about 2 months in he saw a video of an open guard pass, we called it the macho man pass. He tried it in one session and hurt everyone he rolled with. His reply was "I just need to get better at it," coach said "you just need to not do it"

    • @phredbookley183
      @phredbookley183 Před 2 lety +7

      Curious, what is this pass?

    • @heckalydalii200
      @heckalydalii200 Před 2 lety +3

      @@phredbookley183 "macho man" pass

    • @phredbookley183
      @phredbookley183 Před 2 lety

      @@heckalydalii200 I looked it up. Couldn't find it. Does it go by any other name?

    • @heckalydalii200
      @heckalydalii200 Před 2 lety +1

      @@phredbookley183 lol I was being a smart ass. Wouldn't know either what he ment. He must not know the real name of the pass ?

    • @phredbookley183
      @phredbookley183 Před 2 lety

      @@heckalydalii200 gotcha. And. Yeah

  • @irishawthorne7784
    @irishawthorne7784 Před 2 lety +100

    I’m a white belt 4 months in. I did a lot of research going in so I made it an early goal to not be a “spazzy” white belt. But at the same time several people said I can’t be afraid to try new things and experiment on the mat. So the middle ground I’ve found that works is that trying new things is okay as long as I remain hyper-aware of where my body is as well as there is some sort of logical reason I’m doing whatever I’m trying

    • @ivan.guitaraaa1903
      @ivan.guitaraaa1903 Před 2 lety +1

      How is that working for you man?

    • @irishawthorne7784
      @irishawthorne7784 Před 2 lety +6

      @@ivan.guitaraaa1903 well, I haven’t taken any eyes out yet, nor have I attempted any elbow hurricanes. Nobody has told me I’m being spazzy yet so that’s a plus. I think it has helped me improve faster than if I didn’t though because I have to constantly ask myself why I’m doing certain things so I can also ask my coach what would have been better or why what I tried didn’t work.

    • @cheekytitaable
      @cheekytitaable Před 2 lety +1

      Smart! I wish others would do that lol

    • @joshandpaulie
      @joshandpaulie Před 2 lety +7

      This is my problem. I don't spaz at all, I like to focus on breathing and staying calm and maintaining base and pressure, when I'm in a good position. When in guard I try to keep guard and regaurd when I'm passed, which is kind of boring but I won't try to go for something unless the opportunity presents itself and I spend a lot of time trying to stay out of danger.
      I'm a no stripe white belt for the record.

    • @irishawthorne7784
      @irishawthorne7784 Před 2 lety +1

      @@joshandpaulie as many black belts have said, white is just the survival phase!

  • @gandalfthedev200
    @gandalfthedev200 Před 2 lety +26

    "Don't slam that guy on the ground, you might hurt his neck".
    "Oh yeah maybe i shouldn't do that".
    Lmao this jiu jitsu thing sounds fun, maybe someday i will get the chance to try it out

  • @Sunshineonmytoes
    @Sunshineonmytoes Před 2 lety +9

    First I stopped doing any inversions when rolling with new people, as a 50lb heavier dude sat directly on my spine. Then I decided to avoid all the white belts.
    Last week I got guillotine slammed by a brand new blue belt, who just got his orange to blue.
    Now my plan as a 130lb woman to stay alive, is to stick with the 40+years and purple or higher belts, as they do not think that every roll is a part of the Dana White Contender series.

  • @Mike-zb7ts
    @Mike-zb7ts Před 2 lety +17

    Limiting your rolling to people who understand how to "do Jiu Jitsu" can be a bit mechanical and coreographed. Not unlike the opening moves in Chess. "Oh, that opening takes this counter. Which is followed by..." Being able to respond when people "don't do what their supposed to do" seems pretty important to me. Love your channel, Chew. Great information delivered by a genuinely nice guy. Keep it up.

  • @johnthomas1748
    @johnthomas1748 Před 2 lety +39

    This was timely. I got elbowed in the face by a new white belt last week and found out today he broke my nose.

  • @Nethezbet
    @Nethezbet Před 2 lety +7

    "Let's roll slow"
    "Ok, cool"
    White belt has me in guard, starts working toward an arm bar, I was like "ok, cool, finish that $4!+"
    BAM! Instead of increasing the pressure slowly, he pops the arm full force like I had a knife and he was about to die. VERY nearly broke my arm and my elbow has been effed up for 12 weeks... so far. Doc said "If you baby it, you are looking at a solid year til you MAY recover."
    I won't roll nice with whites anymore.

  • @DiaryOfaCell
    @DiaryOfaCell Před 2 lety +9

    Depends on the size of the spaz. If they’re big and muscular, hold them down with all your weight and crush the fight out of em. If they’re small and terrified, stop the roll and talk to them then continue.

  • @arturofernandez725
    @arturofernandez725 Před 2 lety +3

    Not only do you have higher belts who watch the channel, you have lower belts who became higher belts while watching your channel

  • @cunn1n6ham
    @cunn1n6ham Před 2 lety +27

    As always solid video….IMO really makes the case for why Rener and Ryron make people start out in combatives (basic ~32 jiu jitsu standing/ground moves) and then after they had at least 3 classes of each move bring them up to sparing….keeps everyone a lot safer and retains a lot of the people that would have otherwise quit when they walked off the street on day one and get tossed into a Z-half/X or de La riva on day one.

    • @silverfox8801
      @silverfox8801 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree. Think more people wouldn’t quit too? Very demoralising being new and rolling without a clue what to do? Makes no sense to teach like that! 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @shadymilkman443
      @shadymilkman443 Před 2 lety +3

      @@silverfox8801 Everyone starts without knowing what to do...not even just BJJ, everything you have to start as a fool. If they can't do that and quit, then they were probably gonna quit pretty soon anyway.

    • @silverfox8801
      @silverfox8801 Před 2 lety +6

      @@shadymilkman443 I disagree. Most things people start don’t involve being smashed into the floor, being choked or knee on bellied!!

    • @shadymilkman443
      @shadymilkman443 Před 2 lety +1

      @@silverfox8801 Most things don't have those SPECIFIC difficulties. But everything you start has a learning curve with its own specific nuances and difficulties.

    • @LtDanhaslegs
      @LtDanhaslegs Před 2 lety +1

      If I had had to sit through weeks of no sparring before being allowed to roll, I wouldn’t have come back for a second class. Getting my ass kicked by a woman half my size and then getting ruined by anyone close to my size was fun as hell. Idk if long kindergarten periods retain people.

  • @CharlesDoublet
    @CharlesDoublet Před 2 lety +10

    As a noob spaz, my partners are lucky that I'm small and old (56yo 5'2" 110#) so my chances of "hurting" them are less. Nonetheless, my better partners help me not to spaz by giving me tips on what I could've done right before I started spazzing out.
    That way, I learn how to chain things together and to slow down, breathe, and relax, and they get better at teaching and creating a "flow channel" space for optimal learning for both sides.
    Another great video Chewie! This one helped me to understand how much of a wild-card I can become and not contribute to mutual safety, thanks!

    • @moonknight4659
      @moonknight4659 Před 2 lety

      WHY THE FUCK WERE YOU SPAZING IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME WEIRD TICK YOU HAVE AND YOU DIDNT KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL THEN

  • @hari9885
    @hari9885 Před 2 lety +25

    As a white belt I can only hope to one day match Adam's stoic, stock still air of quiet menace.

    • @amosmj
      @amosmj Před 2 lety +4

      I can’t tell if the jazz hands are disarming or even more intimidating.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee Před 2 lety

      @@amosmj the answer is yes.

  • @phredbookley183
    @phredbookley183 Před 2 lety +6

    It's a spectrum. The amount of safety I feel while rolling with a black belt is exactly the opposite feeling I have with a brand new white belt. They really are dangerous in their own way.

  • @trxscreed
    @trxscreed Před 2 lety +8

    I had one guy I nicknamed "The Cat" as he would claw the shit out of your hands whenever you would start applying a choke.

    • @quasar4601
      @quasar4601 Před 2 lety

      The guy did not cut his nails ???

  • @WConn100
    @WConn100 Před rokem +1

    My experience has been that there is always someone who consciously or subconsciously wants to hurt someone else. I've had it happen. Usually some young, strong guy who pretends he doesn't know his own strength. They are the ones with whom you need to be careful,.

  • @contactrfp
    @contactrfp Před 2 lety +40

    I’m a white belt. I’ve been training for three months and have already been injured several times by more experienced white belts. It’s extremely frustrating. I don’t get why people are spazzy and go super hard like it’s an actual fight. Its PRACTICE. I’m always controlled and try to take care of my partner but not everyone shares this same attitude. BJJ instructors need to do a better job talking about injury prevention when rolling, especially with newer students. It doesn’t seem to be a focus at all. You’re just thrown to the wolves on your first day. I don’t want to quit but I might if I keep getting injured.

    • @sirLloyd
      @sirLloyd Před 2 lety +4

      I can relate to this, In April of this year I joined a gym, and by June I rolled with a heavier white belt and he put all his weight into me(while standing), crushed my back, just felt like 3 seperate pops in my back, layed on ground for like a minute. I knew it was broke. The gym really didn't care that I was hurt, Coach just made a joke about like me going to chiropractor. I went and got an MRI of my back, had compression fracture in t12 and now I have like 6 bulging discs(Lumbar and Thorasic), and have tingling throughout body. I haven't trained since. Worst injury of life, I am 31 yrs old. Been seeing a actual chiropractor for decompression. I still wouldn't would love to train again, maybe at diffeerent gym becasue I reached out to see if the gym could help pay some medical bills but they ghosted me for sure.

    • @dougmerrick9064
      @dougmerrick9064 Před 2 lety +6

      As a white belt just don't roll with other white belts, unless you know them to be fair with their partners. Newer white belts will be unpredictable, older white belts have something to prove since they've been getting beat non stop for the last year or 2. Rolling with purple belts they often get me into a pin I can't escape and I will ask for advice, rather than crank me into an over zealous armbar they usually tell me an escape or sweep, and we do a quick drill of it before going further into them twisting me up lol.

    • @kunis2299
      @kunis2299 Před 2 lety +2

      White belt here as well, I started late October. It took me 2 weeks before I realized that I was relying to much on strength rather than technique when rolling. To fix that, I started rolling with heavier/taller opponents so it forced me to improve my technique. It's honestly paid off. Now I'm more controlled and my timing is getting better, instead of being so aggro. The people at my gym have been encouraging and helpful, and I'm glad to say I haven't had any injuries or injured anyone.

    • @theerelaxedspud8300
      @theerelaxedspud8300 Před rokem

      100%

    • @bossman674
      @bossman674 Před rokem +1

      I’ve been weightlifting for years, (injury free) and more recently started BJJ. As a new white belt (two months) I appreciate the more experienced white belts and also blue belts want to practice submissions on the inexperienced guys, but they just wrench them on so quickly without warning it’s pointless. Both elbows are jacked up from arm bars, and my wrist is sprained from a wrist lock… what is the point of treating practice like and actual death roll? It’s practice! I appreciate you have to roll and ‘feel’ BJJ to understand it, but being genuinely injured all the time is limiting my time on the mats and becoming really frustrating. Don’t really understand what this culture in BJJ is about… I’m loving BJJ, but this seems counterproductive and limits longevity in the sport. A lot of the time it just seems like there’s a tonne of luck involved in whether or not you’re a white belt that never gets injured… in over a decade of lifting, I’ve never been injured, and in two months I’ve sustained more serious injuries than ever before

  • @ptx0551
    @ptx0551 Před 2 lety +3

    Was training for competition BJJ with a newer white belt in no gi. We started standing and I had taken him down several times with trips but he kept getting back up. Only reason being is that when I went to secure the position, he would legitimately kick and kick me away. I did not want to get near that because it almost seemed like he was trying to strike me. So I instead clinched and pulled him into my guard. Worked a lot better and I was able to get the submission without injuring myself or him due to his roughness. Great video Chewy!

  • @torrytucker9766
    @torrytucker9766 Před 2 lety +1

    “Adam?”
    “Adam!”
    Quality 👌🏼😂

  • @mdavissq3d
    @mdavissq3d Před 2 lety +3

    I love that this video subject just came out. I'm just getting over an injury to my neck due to a spazzy white belt. Freak accident. We weren't even rolling. I'm a 4-stripe purple belt and this new dude after class one night asked me if I could go over a position with him, I said yeah cause as a higher belt I'm always down to help out. Anyway the new guy comes from a wrestler background and asks what he should do from pretty much a wrestling referee's starting position (hands and knees). I told him "a lot of Jiu jitsu guys would try for your back in BJJ". He said show me. So I got on his back, put in my hooks, got a seatbelt grip, and normally pressing my head against his back for safety but for instructional purposes my head was up so I could communicate clearer explaining each part (teaching moment)... that was the MISTAKE. As my head was up suddenly the white belt decides to do a Granby roll midway thru my instructional to him. His weight and my weight on my forehead via shoulder roll. My neck snaps back and I lose feeling in my left arm. I couldn't fully look left for 3 weeks, ugh.

  • @drauc
    @drauc Před 2 lety +4

    Adam is such an awesome assistant, great vid guys!

  • @trex5878
    @trex5878 Před 2 lety +1

    He nailed it at 3:15. We need to roll with all diff people (size, strength and experience) for self defense practice. If I'm rolling with a spaz, its on me to protect myself. That being said, I don't roll with them all the time but I'll do it every so often

  • @gregstokes7169
    @gregstokes7169 Před 2 lety +3

    You are a great coach for jiu jitsu brother. Looking forward to learning from you one day.

  • @nicholasramirez7322
    @nicholasramirez7322 Před 2 lety +4

    This is an excellent video! I feel a little embarrassed knowing that I used to kick my feet when I started ju jitsu.

  • @gojuboxer4224
    @gojuboxer4224 Před 2 lety +1

    This was an excellent reminder of being aware of the unexpected. This lesson applies to all martial arts that have a “sport element of competition”. The basics are always the best!!!

  • @SaulGude
    @SaulGude Před 2 lety +3

    Being on the smaller side ((140-145lbs) i agree. I keep it tight and make and use the basic moves (cuz they work!) I like rolling with new white belts cuz like you said on a previous video, its mpre realistic of what an untrained person would do.

  • @star_fossil
    @star_fossil Před 2 lety

    Thank you Chewy, rolled with a very strong, very spazzy brand new white belt last week and was a bit stunned. I'm used to rolling with much more experienced players. This was a helpful video!

  • @casf120
    @casf120 Před rokem

    Brand new white belt popped my knee yesterday, kid was an absolute spazz

  • @timgoodliffe
    @timgoodliffe Před 2 lety

    yeah unfortunelty ive been injured several times as a whitebelt rolling versus other white belts (kneed in the head/ bruised ribs), super helpfull info here

  • @SwampCityRadio1974
    @SwampCityRadio1974 Před 2 lety +1

    Hurricane pass. Love it.

  • @andym1594
    @andym1594 Před 2 lety +4

    HEY- I'm upper blue and I pull the spin off all the time. I started doing it after a monster purple did it on me.

    • @damianomma331
      @damianomma331 Před 2 lety

      yeah, it has a high risk of taking your back but most people arn't expecting it. Maybe mess around with it but try not to make it a habit.

    • @derrickrobinson7269
      @derrickrobinson7269 Před 2 lety

      I had a guy one day try the exact spin off pass in NoGi. I didn't even know what was happening at the time but my instincts made me go down with the spin and scrambled around to combat base.

  • @KT-ni4lq
    @KT-ni4lq Před 2 lety +3

    "higher belts are telling me their rolling with spazzy white belts, and getting hurt"
    Adam standing there with a fresh mouse under his eye lolol

  • @medicineandbrazilianjiujit8511

    Thank you, Professor!
    Great advice!

  • @JasonAndrescavage
    @JasonAndrescavage Před 2 lety

    Man, the CZcams algorithm must be getting good. I literally just got home from a new taller/bigger white belt trying to choke me from my closed guard and falling forward onto my neck. Now I have a sore throat and a hoarse voice. 4 years of training and I have never been hurt by an upper belt despite getting my butt kicked by them.

  • @martyblack13
    @martyblack13 Před 2 lety +1

    Your videos are soo informative! I'm gonna watch them all! I can't train right now but am taking notes reading and watching videos for a year! Thx Chewie!

  • @thanieltu3153
    @thanieltu3153 Před 2 lety +10

    I got a sudden neck crank from a very strong white belt and I felt 2 pops in my neck, and it’s been stiff and sore for a week so far. Hurts when I bend my neck back 😕

    • @thanieltu3153
      @thanieltu3153 Před 2 lety +3

      @The Tide Rises Thanks, will do! Also planning to get an X-ray~ Things like this make me think of quitting sometimes~ Cause if I’m not healthy or able to move well, these physical activities and sports don’t matter so much anymore

    • @SaulGude
      @SaulGude Před 2 lety +2

      I always try to anticipate the worst out of someone so i dont get hurt.

    • @mariofilho8880
      @mariofilho8880 Před 2 lety +2

      just tap

    • @thanieltu3153
      @thanieltu3153 Před 2 lety +4

      @@mariofilho8880 totally agree with you Mario, I rather tap fast than tap slow, unfortunately it was a very sudden move, even though I tapped, it was too late.

    • @thanieltu3153
      @thanieltu3153 Před 2 lety

      @Greg Lurik my neck doesn’t crack, it only popped when my neck got cranked, but now when I neck back, it feels like the vertebrae grinds a little 😬

  • @overtyrantfear
    @overtyrantfear Před 2 lety +1

    I let them know the rules after rolls(aside from tapping because that's their safety), if they want to grab my fingers, slam, ect fine. it's great training to let them know after and just deal with it in the moment, even better to know it can happen and play a better bjj game around it. I feel this has definitely benefited me in the long run. highly recommend it but its on you if you let someone wrench your fingers or poke your eye accidentally.

  • @Karen-fs6lf
    @Karen-fs6lf Před 2 lety

    Tight space is the key great advice judo it is the same thing with snazzy people I usually tye theme up tight until there fury is gone the mount my attack

  • @scottmarlow6018
    @scottmarlow6018 Před 2 lety +4

    I see rolling with new people as a gauge on my self-defense. Can I control them, get to a dominant position, and could I strike from that position if needed.

  • @Brobrahokau
    @Brobrahokau Před 4 měsíci

    Rolling partner is a robot that doesn’t blink haha amazing performance

  • @chickasawmike1319
    @chickasawmike1319 Před 2 lety

    HAHAHA "The hurricane pass"!! LOL you are a genius coach!

  • @joegandy3240
    @joegandy3240 Před 2 lety

    Always love that wave from Mr. Personality!

  • @SparkyTakedown
    @SparkyTakedown Před 2 lety +1

    The feet of death!! I'm thankful for my mouth guard evey time this has happened !

  • @lavo9651
    @lavo9651 Před 2 lety +1

    Another is eye pokes! I’ve had 2 bad eye injuries from beginners coming at your collars with fingers everywhere!

  • @Maurelius1948
    @Maurelius1948 Před 2 lety +8

    Hey man,
    Just wanted to ask a question. I’ve been doing BJJ for 4-5 months now and I love it. I have been coming consistently 5 days a week. I have tendonitis in my forearms which made me want to ask questions about BJJ and longevity. I started talking to purple belts, black belts and even my professor, all of them seem to have injuries; knee operations, shoulder injuries, elbow injuries, etc.
    I love this sport so much but I don’t think I’m willing to sacrifice my longevity and health over it. I’m 19 right now and I don’t want to be a 40 year old with a cane unable to do any physical activity. This really worries me man as I took a real liking to the sport. Any advice would be sincerely appreciated.
    Additional information:
    I train gi and no-gi
    I also lift weights 5 x per week in the morning
    Jiu Jitsu evening sessions
    5 sessions per week (session: 30mins drilling + warmup, 30mins rolling - I don’t take a break I have decent cardio I usually roll the entire 30mins)

    • @AnothaRealm
      @AnothaRealm Před 2 lety +4

      Dont over train give the body time to recover and if injured go rest, have fun!

    • @Chewjitsu
      @Chewjitsu  Před 2 lety +5

      Good question. And I started Bjj around the same age. I’m nearing 40. So I’ll share some ideas that might be useful for ya.

    • @phredbookley183
      @phredbookley183 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Chewjitsu I just saw this comment Chewie. It is dated four weeks ago. Was this video already posted? I'm concerned I missed it already

  • @KAP32DW
    @KAP32DW Před 2 lety +6

    Enjoy your channel and video series. I am on the opposite side of the spectrum. I treat the upper belts with respect and don’t use dick moves...knuckle in under chin, jamming my forearm under throat when they have side control. Also as a bigger guy you want to be sensitive to your training partner namely don’t smash them it’s just a roll. The injuries I see usually comes from ego by upper belts when they are in a bad position they get evil...solution I tap even in a dominant position. Then they say why? I said it is getting outta control then they ratchet shit down.

  • @balancebjj1087
    @balancebjj1087 Před 2 lety +2

    I feel like this is especially true with big guy who are new white belts. As someone with 6 years of bjj, I still have trouble with a guy who has 50 or more pounds on me. When they ask me what would you do in this one situation? My half joking answer is to either run or strike.

    • @TheJahool
      @TheJahool Před 2 lety +3

      140lb blue belt here.. yes. I usually don't even roll with new guys that outweigh me by 50lbs. They look confused sometimes too like the fact that I'm a blue belt should give me more of an advantage than it actually does lmao. Big squeezy boiz, no thanks.

  • @Bradley9967
    @Bradley9967 Před 8 měsíci

    I like how at the end of the video the class register is taken.

  • @russelldenton8753
    @russelldenton8753 Před rokem

    We were drilling sit-up sweeps and the guy swept as hard and fast as possible, I couldn't do anything to be safe and landed on my finger tips. It's been 3 weeks of probably a broken finger. Since then, I've experienced subs that I didn't know and in turn didn't know to tap and got injuries. For example, we were in guard or mount and he used his legs to straighten mine and hyper extended my knee. I would've tapped, I just had no idea what was happening. From my perspective, there's only so much you can do to protect yourself when you are new.

  • @Apfelbaum187
    @Apfelbaum187 Před 2 lety +6

    So one of the issues in my experience is, that when rolling you somewhat non verbally agree to a certain speed and power level.
    If you have one newbie and one more experienced guy, the more experienced one tends to do certain moves with more speed. It is necessary for the move to work, but it still makes the newbie also increase speed or power. So you should also tell the "pro" to keep the same speed against newbies.
    Oh, and about slamming from a Triangle choke. It is a stupid rule for stupid people. If I can lift you up while you do a triangle choke, you are not doing a good triangle choke. But people often want to force their techniques and do not let go. If you get picked up, you should let loose or immediately tap. But people are stupid and stupid people need to be protected. And that is why it is forbidden.

    • @stupidandboot4507
      @stupidandboot4507 Před 2 lety +1

      Crazy thought, but maybe slams can do damage to your spine? I know, crazy right.
      We outlaw certain things in jiu jitsu, like punching, for safety

  • @Daland9
    @Daland9 Před 2 lety +1

    Really great advice, love it!

  • @Tentacl
    @Tentacl Před 2 lety

    I just go ultra defensive if they aren't too heavy or strong, just lay down and use spider guard, etc. If they are strong and heavy, I gas them out, plain and simple. Usually a minute or 2 in 100kg or kesagatami and they no longer explode.

  • @angiew7285
    @angiew7285 Před 2 lety

    Love Adam's side faces lol

  • @H.ayes_
    @H.ayes_ Před 2 lety

    Funny how i got recommended this just after I dislocated my knee and had to wait 4 hours for ambulance to get there. It was not my training partner’s fault but it all just came down to bad luck as I landed sideways on my kneecap 👍

  • @percussivemaintenance7222

    Counter perspective. I have been training for a month now, and was slammed hard enough by a partner who has a black belt in judo that he cracked one of my ribs and seperated my ribs from the cartilage. I am out for six weeks and every breath hurts like hell right now. Some people are in permanent competition mode, regardless of their skill level. The guy wasnt even malicious, he just doesnt have an off switch I guess?

  • @joejitsuway960
    @joejitsuway960 Před 2 lety

    The hurricane 😂😂. Yup. Definitely seen that one.

  • @mikcon63
    @mikcon63 Před 2 lety

    I've got a literal handful of lessons in BJJ, just joined its lots of fun, the secret white belt technique "bicycle kicking of doom" did not occur to me. Duely noted as a non technical plan to have lol

  • @jakobfrej7072
    @jakobfrej7072 Před 2 lety

    The old triangle slam, was training with my friends who doesn’t do BJJ and I can remember it so clearly two of my friends where rolling and I supervised them. One of them had rolled with me before so he had some idea of what to do and the other one did this for the first time and he is strong och big. The smaller more experienced friend tries a triangle and the first thing the new strong one does is try to stand up. I jump up from a seated position and scream/run towards them to stop “Don’t slam him!”. The panic was real. But I have also been in this situation and I just let of the submission and stop to explain that you don’t slam your partner in practice.

  • @frankiegodinez8864
    @frankiegodinez8864 Před 2 lety

    I got a spine injury rolling with a brand new white belt. It was a 6 am roll, first of the day. Guy had about 60 lbs on me. I was letting him work and let him get double unders on my legs so that he could start working on guard passing, he lifted me and slammed me on my neck while trying to flip me. I was out for months.

  • @attackscorpion5323
    @attackscorpion5323 Před 2 lety +19

    I’ve learned a lot of ju jitsu from people who don’t do ju jitsu.

    • @DarthRane113
      @DarthRane113 Před 2 lety +1

      Honestly sometimes those are the best people because they don't have any kiu jitsu knowledge so some of them try all kinds of crazy stuff

    • @JoeHeine
      @JoeHeine Před 2 lety

      Un-Ironically Deep

    • @Oldhandlewasabitcringe
      @Oldhandlewasabitcringe Před 2 lety

      I learned a hip lock in half guard from a new guy just yanking shit

  • @canadians1982
    @canadians1982 Před 2 lety

    omg thanks, DO not play hashi or de la riva vesus new white belt espacially if they have 20-40 pounds on you! I got stack so hard on my neck :( they dont understand they weight advantage. SO true thanks for advice, treat it as a MMA fight keep them tight, love it.

  • @2013lobo
    @2013lobo Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Prof. Nick (or Chewy) from Hong Kong! Thank you so much for the video and this subject really call my attention, cause I'm a purple belt and 1 month ago I fought with a 220lbs big guy white belt (I'm 185lbs) then ends up with MCL grade 1 injury in my left knee, the situation was I'm half guard and he was on top, then he grap my knee shield then lifted up my ankle then my knee goes down and the horrible pops sound out! Well, after this injury I was thinking to quit cause I got so many small and serious injury then my wife is starting worry about me, but after I discussed with many friends and the only way I can keep train jiujitsu is change my game. Therefore, may I know the mindset of sparring with beginner is that you will take the fully control in every sparring? But I'm struggle if I want to teach them or give them space to lear during the sparing and if I just hold them or submit them, so they can't learn from sparing, cause I used to let them do their skills or movement (try in a safe situation, but obvious cannot be 100% safe) and I will correct them or guide them if once they do anything wrong, so can you give me your opinion? Another question, what is your mind set in sparring with color belts? You will go for submission or more focus in control and guard pass (or sweep)? Thank you so much and hope you will give your opinion by return!! OSS!!

  • @stephensilva3132
    @stephensilva3132 Před 2 lety

    I'm a white belt and was told by another veteran white belt who competes that we should really be going like 70-80% max. But, that I'll run into people who don't compete and treat the weekday roll as their competition and go full speed. The other day I ran into that person he described and got completely fucked, my knee is still bumping from a crazy full-speed sweep.

  • @semja
    @semja Před 2 lety

    Good advice in general I appreciate you

  • @kenyoudosome
    @kenyoudosome Před 2 lety

    1:05 the hands don’t match the face expression and I love it

  • @Keluoduo
    @Keluoduo Před 2 lety

    Touché ! I'm a hurricaner ! (But I never elbowed anyone during the rotation ^^)

  • @WestonSimonis
    @WestonSimonis Před rokem

    I had one not listed happen about 2 and a half months ago. I took new guys back in turtal he stood up and rolled with me on him slamming my head into the mat with my own knee bashing my nose with all their weight on it breaking my nose. Spit blood for over a week and got a concussion. Don't take a new guys back in turtal he might just stand up and do a flip with you on him.

  • @bigreg47
    @bigreg47 Před 2 lety

    Thank u Chewy!!!!

  • @Tomatolover120
    @Tomatolover120 Před 2 dny

    The feet of death looks like a great tactic in a real fight.

  • @angiew7285
    @angiew7285 Před 2 lety

    I totally have had this issue before a couple times... but it's also sad that this has to be a topic. BJJ was meant to be a martial art, therefore used in a fight situation! From a personal & historical standpoint, if my jui jitsu isn't good enough to control a spazzy white belt, then I need to fix my jui jitsu... not the white belt.

  • @treyz7847
    @treyz7847 Před rokem

    Just sparred with a spazzy white belt for the first time, almost broke my arm. Dude tried to go to side control and then sat on my posting arm, right at the elbow.
    They are really scarier than rolling with black belts

  • @wdanda
    @wdanda Před 2 lety

    Hey Chewie, what takedown would you use on a spazzy/brand new guy? Loved the tips in this video but got me wondering about the takedown.

  • @blazingheartproductions

    Interesting. I train Gracie JJ, its not sport, so punch defense is part of what we do, and always passing tight and so on. All training happens with the assumption that it's a street fight and someone's trying to take advantage of any opening or weakness in technique, as well as hit you if within reach. So when I hear about this type of Jiu-Jitsu, it's foreign.
    The sport realm looks like a fun place for people who love Jiu-Jitsu to exercise the art and test themselves and just take part in that world. I can completely appreciate that. But my mind has always been focused on self-defense, so I like to train that way.

  • @pvlapa
    @pvlapa Před 2 lety +1

    LOL. Im here just watching youtube because a big ass white belt smashed/fell on me and gave me a rib injury. Have to sit out for a month.

  • @amosmj
    @amosmj Před 2 lety

    I'm a white belt but I'm also the biggest guy in the gym so I get the white belts as training partners after they do their free classes. So this will be 2x helpful, not to be an idiot myself, not to eat an elbow.

  • @yallaskate
    @yallaskate Před 2 lety

    This is great, half my injuries were from. Spaz white belts. 🤦‍♂️

  • @phop1201
    @phop1201 Před 2 lety +2

    As a 2 week old white belt I prefer rolling with the higher belts. I try to be as respectful as I can and not spaz out. I stick to the 3 or 4 moves I know. If I do something wrong like the “hurricane spin” they’re not afraid to stop me and be like wtf was that, or show me something new. With the other white belts I feel like they’re all just trying to smash the new guy to assert dominance

    • @derrickrobinson7269
      @derrickrobinson7269 Před 2 lety

      @Greg Lurik Same. Move a lot or NoGi?

    • @derrickrobinson7269
      @derrickrobinson7269 Před 2 lety

      @Greg Lurik I've been NoGi for over 2 yrs and started putting a Gi on in March atleast once a week. It's definitely a different look, although my main focus is still NoGi improvement

  • @ianj4389
    @ianj4389 Před 2 lety

    White belts are actually great to practice self-defense with. Jokes aside, they regularly put elbows and knees and places they don't belong so you regularly have to be aware of your range. Either all the way in or all the way out or you might catch an elbow or a knee or some weird move or erratic behavior.

  • @iblzs227
    @iblzs227 Před 2 lety

    I'm a white belt and decided to practice a move with another white belt. I always roll with higher belts since they know what they're doing. This dude decided to go way too hard and try to get a submission when all I wanted was to practice a move. I forgot the move so I tapped his arm and said I couldn't remember the rest. Ended up in open guard, I go to stand up and he literally just hangs off my keck via collar hold. I said alright that's enough and he kept going. Took me saying it a few times and tapping his arm a few more times. Pissed me off man. Dude has less experience than me and I'm knew. Fucked up my neck and aggravated a toe injury I'm working around.

  • @x-Musashi-x
    @x-Musashi-x Před 2 lety +1

    We all used to be the spazzer lmao. I just let the new guys know thT
    “Hey you’re spazzing out, it’s normal, it’s fone, just relax before you put me in a coma kneeing my balls again.”

  • @therealdestructicus
    @therealdestructicus Před 2 lety

    First (and so far last) time ever in BJJ, me, 30, 300lbs, him 40, 200lbs.
    I was going easy, but keeping him from doing what he wanted with my strength advantage, so when I was on my back, he posted on me and lifted his whole lower half high in the air, and slammed his knee into my ribs, breaking 2 of them. His excuse was he was trying to pass into mount.
    So I've been hesitant to try it again, hence looking up these videos.

    • @percussivemaintenance7222
      @percussivemaintenance7222 Před rokem

      Are you breathing easier now that it's been a few months? And are you still training, or was that it for you? Just curious.

  • @ssssaintmarcus
    @ssssaintmarcus Před 2 lety

    I got kneed in the nuts hard as heck a couple days ago. Worst pain I have ever felt. Was writhing around on the floor for about five minutes. Damn white belts. I was playing open guard lazily so in part it was my fault

  • @hashiramasenju5001
    @hashiramasenju5001 Před 2 lety

    I'm facing this situation a lot currently, but most of the guys are 20+ lbs bigger and I'm just getting my neck cranked constantly, not enough to tap, just enough to be annoying.

  • @chuckybuckets
    @chuckybuckets Před 2 lety +2

    ROGER THAT. MURDER THE NEW TRIAL CLASS GUY. FLYING EVERYTHING

  • @oscarcruz7065
    @oscarcruz7065 Před 2 lety

    Im a purple belt and just had my nose broken last week from a white belt. I somehow got kneed to the face from grip fighting.

  • @TomDulson
    @TomDulson Před 2 lety

    Rolled with a new guy yesterday (I'm also a white belt 5 months in) and he kept directly grabbing my thumbs. I also broke my toe in that class but idk how or when.

  • @12XxXHandlesAreStupidXxX123

    A spazz gave me cauliflower ear on his first roll by cranking a cross choke that wasn't anywhere near my neck.
    Super annoying and I am not going to roll or train with the guy again.

  • @DeathrashWhiplash
    @DeathrashWhiplash Před rokem

    Been training for about 6 weeks. The other day was doing a warmup roll, with a woman. Was going like 10% super light super slow going but wanted to show respect and give a little bit of defensive resistance. I grabbed her calf area and she tried to rip it out of my grip and popped her own knee super loud like everyone stopped and looked. Shes been out for about 2.5 weeks. I feel like such a dumbass for having a woman get injured while doing a warmup roll with me (even though it was totally inadvertent).

  • @ben-arte8936
    @ben-arte8936 Před 2 lety

    just got my nose broken from a spazzy knee last month. good times

  • @firejoe283
    @firejoe283 Před 2 lety

    I got a question.
    Lets say if there's a kid about 10 or 11 years old who wants to wrestle.
    I'm concerned about the knees from shooting single-legs.
    Kneepads are gonna be a given, but is there another way they can save their knees for longevity?
    I'm reminded of this thinking about a conversation with my buddy when I said I was gonna get some cheap running shoes, he told me "you only got 1 pair of knees, buy some good shoes, not some cheap crappy ones"

  • @gojuboxer4224
    @gojuboxer4224 Před 2 lety

    Guard Passing vs “FEET of DEATH”😂😂😂😂

  • @BigTiddyGothGrappler
    @BigTiddyGothGrappler Před 2 lety +1

    Hey why you hating on NAGA :( I love my cute lil' white belt sword lol

  • @douglasfinney2871
    @douglasfinney2871 Před 2 lety

    If your a blue belt or above, it seems like you would be able to manage the situation.

  • @poopdealer3147
    @poopdealer3147 Před rokem

    Watching this as a white belt so I can better injure my higher belts

  • @insidetrip101
    @insidetrip101 Před 2 lety

    Assuming the whitebelt is of a reasonably similar size to you, if you're getting injured by a whitebelt during rolling, then you're not actually as good as you think and you probably shouldn't be a "higher belt." Don't get me wrong, sometimes freak accidents happen, but if this is a common thing, then its definitely because you're not controlling the roll, and if you can't control the roll with someone who has little experience in jiujitsu/grappling, then why do you deserve to be a higher belt? Sounds to me like you should still be a white belt.

  • @paulgodenitz
    @paulgodenitz Před 2 lety

    Is a novice allowed to stand and shuck a triangle off, rather than stand and slam?

  • @mattpayne4612
    @mattpayne4612 Před 2 lety

    We need some narrated Adam rolls.

  • @antiwokeguy
    @antiwokeguy Před rokem

    I just started a month ago and I'm very squirmy, my coach says to be more fluid, what does that mean?

  • @bradlyjohnson4775
    @bradlyjohnson4775 Před 2 lety

    Wrestled 3 years still trying to break the explosive mentality about 5 months of bjj I'm on my 2nd Injury lmao

  • @sharkzomb1798
    @sharkzomb1798 Před 2 lety

    Im probably gonna start at a brazilian jiu jitsu place next year. So for people who‘ve been doing jiu jitsu for a while, is it ok to go for scissor takedowns?, Ive seen some videos where people got injured from it. Im def gonna ask the instructor at the bjj gym, before I roll, but I‘d like to hear from different people.