Ex-Boeing 737 MAX manager tells all

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  • čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
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    Prepare to be ANGRY. Make no mistake: what's happening at Boeing is absolutely a public safety crisis. But the rot goes much deeper than Boeing -- it's the FAA, the DOT, the NTSB, and the airlines themselves. Former Boeing 737 Program senior manager Ed Pierson joins us to expose the corporate greed, criminal negligence, and government ineptitude that continue to put the public at risk. For more information about Ed you can visit his website at edpierson.com or his podcast, "Warning Bells".
    Special thanks to Raimee Iacofano for co-producing. @ raimeetravel on Instagram and TikTok.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 - boeing maintenance
    6:06 - blue chew ad // promo: baes
    8:10 - boeing whistleblower
    20:45 - incogni ad // promo: paypigs
    23:23 - ed pierson aviation safety interview
    28:00 - boeing factory issues
    31:20 - lion air accidents
    35:00 - MCAS system and AOA sensor
    38:55 - NTSB and alaska airlines
    40:55- FAA deregulation
    44:44 - failed leadership at boeing
    50:00 - training issues and removing QC inspections
    52:00 - sort by plane model (MAX 737-8 & 737-9)
    55:27 - what would ed do?
    57:20 - anti-icing systems failing
    1:00:00 - FAA’s ODA program
    1:02:50 - MAX electrical issues
    1:06:00 - buttigieg’s DOT and FAA’s 90 day boeing quality check
    1:13:33 - shadow factory balloons
    1:17:44 - corporate greed
    1:23:00 - mitigating risk
    1:26:20 - what can consumers do?
    1:31:20 - foundation for aviation safety org
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Komentáře • 223

  • @maczafarana8989
    @maczafarana8989 Před 2 měsíci +170

    “You guys are asking way too many good questions for guys that are also comedians”

  • @Beingben247
    @Beingben247 Před 2 měsíci +337

    Man, cant wait to see this guest live a happy and healthy life!!!!

    • @Kook_Krazy
      @Kook_Krazy Před 2 měsíci +23

      I’m pretty sure the one who was found dead was a different whistle blower, but saying much of the same stuff

    • @SebastianILK
      @SebastianILK Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@Kook_Krazyyea it was a different guy, john barnett. im sure it was a one time thing and will never ever happen again

    • @tswizzle4eva578
      @tswizzle4eva578 Před 2 měsíci +3

      How does it feel to be Ben 24/7

    • @OfficerRFriendly
      @OfficerRFriendly Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@tswizzle4eva578 He's had Benough of this shit tbh.

    • @umami6462
      @umami6462 Před 2 měsíci

      i don't think they would take an interview with a possibly assassinated guy so light

  • @shadow8277
    @shadow8277 Před 2 měsíci +30

    I felt so sad when he said "Thanks for letting me speak longer than two minutes." Even when these interviews and shows are trying to raise awareness about these issues, they still care about ratings or comedy (esp Jon Stewart omg that man is allergic to letting guests talk) instead of the actual humans behind these stories.

  • @JamWell
    @JamWell Před 2 měsíci +65

    I currently work as a manufacturing engineer, and this content is absolute PREMIUM. Thank you for such an objectively informative episode.

  • @tombullock7886
    @tombullock7886 Před 2 měsíci +45

    Loved that Ed apologised for saying ass and then Ben used the phrase cluster fuck about 5 mins later. Beautiful.

    • @kelsie3698
      @kelsie3698 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Then apologized again when he said crap 😂

  • @AV8RLUKE
    @AV8RLUKE Před 2 měsíci +59

    0:00 - boeing maintenance
    6:06 - blue chew ad // promo: baes
    8:10 - boeing whistleblower
    20:45 - incogni ad // promo: paypigs
    23:23 - ed pierson aviation safety interview
    28:00 - boeing factory issues
    31:20 - lion air accidents
    35:00 - MCAS system and AOA sensor
    38:55 - NTSB and alaska airlines
    40:55- FAA deregulation
    44:44 - failed leadership at boeing
    50:00 - training issues and removing QC inspections
    52:00 - sort by plane model (MAX 737-8 & 737-9)
    55:27 - what would ed do?
    57:20 - anti-icing systems failing
    1:00:00 - FAA’s ODA program
    1:02:50 - MAX electrical issues
    1:06:00 - buttigieg’s DOT and FAA’s 90 day boeing quality check
    1:13:33 - shadow factory balloons
    1:17:44 - corporate greed
    1:23:00 - mitigating risk
    1:26:20 - what can consumers do?
    1:31:20 - foundation for aviation safety org
    just got my private pilot license. i’m training to become an airline pilot. i thought it was a great episode with ed. def appreciate y’all shedding some light on boeing’s shady practices. especially with all the horrific news this week...

  • @slaymaster01
    @slaymaster01 Před 2 měsíci +66

    i am not a plane person but this episode helped me realize how serious and important for everybody the discussion is

    • @slaymaster01
      @slaymaster01 Před 2 měsíci +7

      also i see many similarities in the decreasing quality of the railroad systems and the decreasing quality of the plane production
      like how the government just looks the other way from their flaws

  • @ollieb.9731
    @ollieb.9731 Před 2 měsíci +35

    Really appreciate the way you boys interview people, just letting them talk. Keep up the excellent work!

  • @cringelemon5365
    @cringelemon5365 Před 2 měsíci +46

    Wow, best guest interview so far! Really great look behind the scenes with someone in the know. Would love for this to expand into other industries. I know Ben is a plane goob, but I would love to see an interview in this style with a pharmaceutical whistleblower.

  • @hasbulla2012
    @hasbulla2012 Před 2 měsíci +51

    Absolutely love your guest episodes. It’s obvious you guys really listen to your guests and give them the opportunity to tell their story.
    Evident when Ed thanked you for letting him speak 48:21

  • @DqnielSun
    @DqnielSun Před 2 měsíci +167

    Did ben have fun this episode ?

    • @OfficerRFriendly
      @OfficerRFriendly Před 2 měsíci +56

      probably rock hard at every mention of plane crashes.

    • @kelsey5093
      @kelsey5093 Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@OfficerRFriendlyyou couldn’t tell the table was 2 inches higher than usual?

    • @benandemilshow
      @benandemilshow  Před 2 měsíci +39

      so much fun!

  • @deancollins3804
    @deancollins3804 Před 2 měsíci +30

    What an incredible interview guys. Such intelligent questions, love how you gave your guest room to talk, and it wasn't too difficult to grasp for a layman. Top notch content again from the two most handsome men on CZcams ❤❤

  • @mattH3ew
    @mattH3ew Před 2 měsíci +92

    most important lesson of 2024: wear your Boeing airplane seatbelt so your shirt doesn’t get sucked off

    • @hasbulla2012
      @hasbulla2012 Před 2 měsíci

      What if I want my shirt to get sucked off?

  • @tess3000
    @tess3000 Před 2 měsíci +20

    Small detail but loved how he remembered your guys’ names and used them. This was so informative and interesting!!!

  • @harrisonwheat7976
    @harrisonwheat7976 Před 2 měsíci +25

    This was sooooooo good! Incredible interview! This is why I'm such a big fan. Y'all can talk about nothing and be silly or conduct a better interview than 60 Minutes. Great stuff!

  • @Big.Rik_
    @Big.Rik_ Před 2 měsíci +116

    Absolutely thrilled to watch this the day before my trans-pacific flight on a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner 😁👍
    UPDATE: Should've skipped this episode

    • @u_lost_me
      @u_lost_me Před 2 měsíci +7

      Thank you for this, I will in fact skip it. Sorry boys!

    • @charlestoast4051
      @charlestoast4051 Před 2 měsíci

      The Washington 787's are probably OK.

    • @cam-tv5rb
      @cam-tv5rb Před měsícem

      Did you make it?

  • @theonlyever
    @theonlyever Před 2 měsíci +53

    Wondering if Ed would've agreed to appear on a podcast called Pay Pigs...

    • @M00T3N
      @M00T3N Před 2 měsíci +4

      Guaranteed he doesn’t know what it even means

  • @mjxc1627
    @mjxc1627 Před 2 měsíci +63

    Thank you for bringing Ed Pierson on! You guys always book such timely and considerate guests, I always appreciate it.
    Young boys shouldn't need to worry that their shirt might get sucked off every time they step on a plane. Boeing's corporate culture needs to change

  • @jbone877
    @jbone877 Před 2 měsíci +47

    If it's a Boeing, it's going... to result in fatalities

  • @ArtleyDraws
    @ArtleyDraws Před 2 měsíci +16

    Love that you guys can throw in interviews like this now! Great info. Even though i don’t know anything about planes this explained the headlines so well. Please keep doing what you want!!

  • @frazerwagg7192
    @frazerwagg7192 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Please keep making stuff like this. I love it when you are making what you are interested in rather than a strict format/style. Although can we please have Ben say he is having fun his mom is worried!

    • @benandemilshow
      @benandemilshow  Před 2 měsíci +2

      thank you but even every week we're making what we're interested in because we're covering what we wanna cover!

  • @Luuuluuuu
    @Luuuluuuu Před 2 měsíci +23

    if it’s boeing i’m no call no showing‼️

  • @ben-fu7uz
    @ben-fu7uz Před 2 měsíci +66

    The future of Boeing is really up in the air…

    • @AnoNymous-nm6mm
      @AnoNymous-nm6mm Před 2 měsíci +7

      I disagree, but I'm glad you're optimistic.

  • @kavinsky2
    @kavinsky2 Před 2 měsíci +38

    I hope Ben is having fun 😕 Hi Ben's mom ❤

  • @mattd2026
    @mattd2026 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Thank you Ed! Your message is SO important and it will absolutely play a role in the day of reckoning that is coming for those involved with the airline industry.

  • @TheAK0390
    @TheAK0390 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I feel safer knowing there’s people like Ed in the world 😊❤

  • @OatyMilk
    @OatyMilk Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is how you interview; the more they can speak and share their wealth of knowledge the more we benefit. Thanks guys

  • @morehaxpIz
    @morehaxpIz Před 2 měsíci +3

    One of the best guests so far. As a former airline employee, I can say there are many areas of complacency and negligence from top to bottom, not just in the construction of planes. Loved this more serious type of interview, and you guys had some great observations and questions, keep it up!

  • @jerryjohns5119
    @jerryjohns5119 Před 2 měsíci +14

    The timing on this one is impeccable.

  • @unkowndata2338
    @unkowndata2338 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Really loved this episode, hope you can do more deep dives in the future

  • @absc62
    @absc62 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Best episode so far. This interview was so good

  • @aminamrani2148
    @aminamrani2148 Před 2 měsíci +21

    At this point the frame behind them is an easter egg on every episode!

  • @justingiacolone6707
    @justingiacolone6707 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I had to present a speech for one of my classes in University about Boeing and two of the sources I used was Ed Pierson, and the other one was Ben Cahn😭😭

  • @robbiekrebs5402
    @robbiekrebs5402 Před 2 měsíci +16

    Emil? Your bob?? Is FYE!! 🔥🔥

  • @yrublu
    @yrublu Před 2 měsíci +3

    I was locked in this episode. Nice job giving the guest time to speak and explain in detail his experience and insights. I hope that leadership in this industry and worldwide has improvement with the focus on safety and positive results, not profits for a few while sacrificing lives.

  • @Luuuluuuu
    @Luuuluuuu Před 2 měsíci +12

    hi ben’s mom hope you’re having a great day

  • @BoxShifterGaming
    @BoxShifterGaming Před 2 měsíci +2

    I legit get so excited when you guys release episode

  • @hudbud22
    @hudbud22 Před 2 měsíci +6

    pretty saucy bigtime interview boys. proud of u xoxo

  • @Nova3482
    @Nova3482 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was one of the best guest episodes you guys have had, great job guys and Ed!

  • @jbone877
    @jbone877 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Bro these Boeings are having more issues than the Ford Pinto did before the government stepped in, then. So are Teslas, for that matter

  • @gooby19
    @gooby19 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was such a great episode guys thanks for bringing him on this was so interesting. What a great guy

  • @ToryNicole7
    @ToryNicole7 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for sharing this story and finding such a perfect guest to talk about this issue. another job well done boys

  • @apoet9144
    @apoet9144 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you Ben and Emil, this is so important and helpful for those who don’t know anything about plane models. Love you guys!

  • @BoxShifterGaming
    @BoxShifterGaming Před 2 měsíci +2

    ONCE AGAIN TRULY MY FAVORITE PODCAST!!!!

  • @walkeryon1765
    @walkeryon1765 Před 2 měsíci +6

    locking eyes w/ that wonky bill gates portrait brings me peace

  • @majorelmo
    @majorelmo Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great episode! You guys just keep on killin it

  • @JoelNJohnson
    @JoelNJohnson Před 2 měsíci +2

    What an interesting interview. Thanks for this one!

  • @darienseif8273
    @darienseif8273 Před 2 měsíci

    This was an awesome interview! Informative guest and you can tell how engaged Ben and Emil were

  • @reaganwiles895
    @reaganwiles895 Před 2 měsíci +1

    A super engaging interview. great episode!!!

  • @hunnygoblin
    @hunnygoblin Před 2 měsíci +1

    This was so informative and interesting. Ed rocks, thanks boys!

  • @shelb420
    @shelb420 Před 2 měsíci

    this guy had such a good vibe

  • @ytBigJ
    @ytBigJ Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great interview and very informative

  • @lindseythew2585
    @lindseythew2585 Před 2 měsíci +1

    great interview boys! i guess it's easy when ur guest is as knowledgeable and kind as this guy though! Much love and support

  • @amerymcmullen-smith5025
    @amerymcmullen-smith5025 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Fascinating interview, good work boys

  • @jamiewarren686
    @jamiewarren686 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Loved the bubble wrap to blue chew transition

  • @SLCtica
    @SLCtica Před 2 měsíci +2

    Amazing guest, amazing interview. Great job guys 👏

  • @austincrain4919
    @austincrain4919 Před 2 měsíci

    This episode was greatly informative!

  • @Asaeax
    @Asaeax Před 22 dny

    wow this is a very good talk, thanks for sharing this!

  • @abbylange022
    @abbylange022 Před 2 měsíci

    What a fantastic interview, Ben and Emil!

  • @Kage_4
    @Kage_4 Před 2 měsíci

    Incredible stuff boys. What a great episode!

  • @gracebo6543
    @gracebo6543 Před 2 měsíci +4

    i thoroughly enjoyed this , thank u

  • @kejoneil
    @kejoneil Před 2 měsíci

    incredible ep huge shoutout to raimee!

  • @Leggster97
    @Leggster97 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Oh boy I can’t wait to get on my flight right after watching this

  • @GlenStifelman
    @GlenStifelman Před 2 měsíci

    This is one of the best shows you have ever done! Tremendous content and you really bought this guy out!

  • @Rodviet
    @Rodviet Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is huge.
    Great interview, thank you Baes.
    (I don't wanna fly never again)

  • @bengiordano2187
    @bengiordano2187 Před 2 měsíci

    Incredible interview gentlemen

  • @NayNayChristine
    @NayNayChristine Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is a huge get! Great episode! Glad I'm flying an Airbus to Hawaii

  • @alexmalzeke4649
    @alexmalzeke4649 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You guys are incredible interviewers fr

  • @jffffff
    @jffffff Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for having Ed on he seems like a great man.

  • @jakubmrczk4546
    @jakubmrczk4546 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Haven’t even watched it yet and I know it’s a great episode

  • @brandon00744
    @brandon00744 Před 2 měsíci

    Great episode boys! Keep it up!

  • @mattd2026
    @mattd2026 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yeah this is phenomenal. Kudos to u and the guest

  • @jakubmrczk4546
    @jakubmrczk4546 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great interview boys

  • @mikmikmikmijtheshy8577
    @mikmikmikmijtheshy8577 Před 2 měsíci

    Great interview guys!

  • @bryanm107
    @bryanm107 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Fantastic episode 🫡

  • @backyardeconomist
    @backyardeconomist Před 2 měsíci +2

    Best and most informative episode

  • @DJGeorgeDisco
    @DJGeorgeDisco Před 2 měsíci +1

    well, the only way to address this is a massive airplane recall.

  • @alexdam8218
    @alexdam8218 Před 2 měsíci +2

    1:14:26 hahaha, great episode boys. This is why i stick through the all the butt talk to get to the actual info we need.

  • @al3xandramac
    @al3xandramac Před 2 měsíci

    loved this episode boys!!

  • @xkanina
    @xkanina Před 2 měsíci +1

    sad that this isn't getting more views. this is important info!

  • @spudrex6918
    @spudrex6918 Před 2 měsíci +2

    So excited for the second cuss free episode!😅😅

  • @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866
    @jojothetasmaniansassmonkey8866 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If its Boeing, I ain't going.
    If its a bus, I'll give it my trust.

  • @nickh397
    @nickh397 Před 2 měsíci

    favorite podcast yet. having déjà vue to the railroad incidents.. similar quality control issues rooted to corporate greed, rushing things that shouldn’t be rushed.
    sounds like every company is having the same issues: corporate greed ruining quality of service/product. whether that’s lay offs, underpaying workers, understaffing, lack of maintenance, not upgrading technology, etc..

  • @johncrowley5563
    @johncrowley5563 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for going past the usual ~60 minutes for this episode

  • @charlieleo9663
    @charlieleo9663 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I was just thinking damn i miss the boys and then I realized its Thursday lets gooo

  • @dennismenzel8607
    @dennismenzel8607 Před 2 měsíci +2

    2:34 in Airbus, I buss

  • @diwataluna
    @diwataluna Před 2 měsíci

    This makes me glad I had clicked on a video recommended by CZcams even when it was from Paypigs

  • @Dalton0394
    @Dalton0394 Před 2 měsíci

    I have welded in RV manufacturing for about 10 years now and it’s unreal hearing Ed describe the manufacturing process similar to how we were building units during the crazy sales in 2020-2022. We could not get enough appliances, metal, frames, you name it, in to build the units. They would stick them outside until we got whatever it needed then someone would go finish it. Mind you the RV industry is known to have dogshit quality control across most brands.
    I have too much of a conscious to produce junk for the price people pay for these units but that’s not true for everybody in the factory. Sounds a lot like similar things happening at Boeing which is INSANE considering the differences in safety standards.
    Great episode guys, I don’t know what it is about you two little stinkers that make learning so easy for me but I really feel like I’ve learned a ton from episode 1 of TM to now.

  • @kyleissuperdupercool
    @kyleissuperdupercool Před 2 měsíci +2

    My least favorite co-worker eats homemade tahini and spends his shift sweating out garlic and belching. I pray for him to get fired before I go to bed.

  • @ahumanbeing6875
    @ahumanbeing6875 Před 2 měsíci +3

    First time listener made it to 4:32 and subbed.

  • @tavongordon9783
    @tavongordon9783 Před 2 měsíci +1

    God I love learning from the boys, love this interview and love the boys

  • @hyjenks7155
    @hyjenks7155 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Man this episode really gave me a Boe-ner.

  • @mattd2026
    @mattd2026 Před 2 měsíci +2

    1:08:17 they are going to do the same thing that the NALC does with the post office. They are going to talk about it, and if they don't like what the post office said then they will talk about it some more. And if they don't like that then they'll wait a little bit longer, and then talk about it some more. No change will come with our current leadership in these companies nationwide

  • @adrianosun8847
    @adrianosun8847 Před 2 měsíci +1

    *Ex-Boeing 737 MAX manager found unalive at his home*

  • @mattd2026
    @mattd2026 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I thought u guys were gonna have William prizone be the whistle-blower. This will be sick

  • @apcinematography5628
    @apcinematography5628 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Seems like every episode about airline disasters is days before I have a flight 🫠

  • @HimothyOHooligan
    @HimothyOHooligan Před 2 měsíci +1

    LOL Sponsor link is still "paypigs"! Also 1:14:25 I had to stop the video entirely to keep it together.

  • @tandemax2
    @tandemax2 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you all for doing this podcast! We need to hear more from Ed Pierson ! Ed, stay safe, Boeing is now wet working people. We need you Ed Pierson to keep telling your story! Do more social media & mainstream media! Get these idiots for what they did to John Barnett !

  • @scoochv
    @scoochv Před 2 měsíci +4

    Is that Billy G in the background?

  • @TeeFoles
    @TeeFoles Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yo we have to get these paintings in the background on a t shirt