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Survivor 45 Premiere | Post-Game Show w/ Owen Knight
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2023
- Coming to you LIVE after the east coast airing of Survivor 45, the Survivor Know-It-Alls are back!
Survivor Know-It-Alls is RHAP's staple Survivor strategy podcast. Rob Cesternino (@RobCesternino) and Stephen Fishbach (@StephenFishbach) host the show, providing in-depth analysis of the game at large, commentary on the social dynamics between castaways and make predictions for the rest of the season. Both two-time former Survivor players, Rob and Stephen offer a unique perspective into the game of Survivor, throughout all eras.
With Stephen out for the night (but joining us in tomorrow's recap!), Rob welcomes Survivor 43's Owen Knight (@TulaneOwen) to recap the Survivor 45 premiere!
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Heart goes out to all the Women in Finals of casting that got passed over for Hannah.
Defently 😢
Seriously!
Was thinking the same thing!!
And Emily tbh
She should get HERSELF therapy!! 😂
Emily thinkin long term. "how can i secure my spot onto a big future season: Heroes v Villains 2"
She's playing 10D chess, while Hannah was playing 11D. She was like "im thinking about the future. How can I get a free vacation to Fiji?"
Putting two couch potatoes, crying once they hit the beach, on the same tribe was a decision by producers that compounded the casting mistake.
Brandon and Hannah
Jeff apparently mentioned on the podcast that he told casting they need to take notes on Hannah cause they clearly missed something.
That something was definitely her being soft when it came to nicotine withdrawal.
What if they just left cigs on the beach for anyone that wanted them? Could be hilarious with everyone smoking at finale night
They shouldn’t have any smokers. She mentioned nicotine more than once so I think it was a big part of her decision.
Jeff team knew and did nothing fire that whole team shme
@@lolabush2201 From what I remember, James Clement got nicotine patches when he competed on Micronesia, but he didn't on HvV. I'm assuming based on that info that contestants aren't given nicotine patches anymore, which explains her decision to quit (Shouldn't have casted her to begin with though).
@@jaymills817Yeah, as a smoker I can't understand how someone could think quitting smoking and going on Survivor at the same time is a good idea. Either give them the nicotine patches or rather just don't cast smokers at all.
Congrats to Stephen! Great hearing from Owen again. I thought the premiere had some fun moments and it felt like a different atmosphere from the previous seasons to me, despite being mostly the same format. I also was enjoying the hot mess Lulu tribe and didn’t mind that Hannah bowed out. The cast didn’t really stand out to me in my limited preseason experience, but I enjoyed the characters we got to see tonight and am excited to see more!
It is so good to see Owen again!
Loved this episode. I am so hyped for this season. Hannah going was great because it saved Emily. I hate Emily but she makes such great TV.
Congrsts Stephen.i am so happy to see Owen here tonight.
Congrats to Stephen! Can't wait for the Know it Alls.
Hannah mentioned being worried about people being mad at her for basically quitting. I'm not angry at her. Angry isn't really the right word, it's more just a wondering who the heck let her be cast? With how quick she broke down, I flat don't believe nobody noticed and raised questions.
I get why everyone else is upset but personally I’m upset because I’d rather see Brandon or Emily go.
Not angry just disappointed
Other than mistake of casting Hannah, feel like producers made the tribes too physically imbalanced. Feel like 3 or even 4 people on Lulu can be described as weak links. Kaleb can only carry so much
Great start to a new season, with wonderful insight from Owen. Can’t wait to see how it all plays out.
This season feels like another Gabon and I am here for it, praying Emily makes it to merge, she is such a hot mess that at least understands the game
She’s the strategic version of Wendy Jo
isn't it ironic? Emily applied for Survivor because she was pissed Gabler won.
About the non-journey talk around 30:00 I think we all got excited about the longer (90 min) episodes we are getting this season, but if I'm not mistaken, we are forgetting that 90 minutes is a shorter episode length for the premiere (I think they were usually 2hour premieres) so it made sens that we didn't have the journey to ship wheel island.
Great job, Owen!
I knew why he wasn’t going to be here, but that being said…I miss Stephen! Also congrats 🎉
love owen, this was so fun!
Gabler mentioned playing his shot in the dark on episode 1 and got persuaded not to by Ellie. Brandon mentioned playing his shot in the dark on the premiere and eventually did not end up playing it. Also, Brandon got air time during the initial mat chat. Is Brandon our S45 winner? Is Brandon the love child of Maryanne and Gabler? 2+3 = 5 after all.
I sure hope not but I wondered the same thing
If so, this will be the greatest redemption arc Survivor has ever seen.
I kinda doubt it, Lulu is absolutely going to tribal again and if he remains a liability in the challenges, they’ll probably just cut him. I see Emily getting that pre-merge “she somehow keeps slipping by each tribal despite no one liking her” edit a la Alecia from Kaoh Rong.
I kinda think it could be Emily because her first confessional saying “if I don’t win I would rather be the first boot” also the Matt chat
Sabiyah's winning bro
My God people are breaking down an hour into the game. I don’t think any of these people have actually touched grass.
Truth.
They needa stop casting super fans and start casting people that do things other than watch Survivor in their basement
@@TheDXJC56 exactly this
I actually thought I wasn’t going to like Kaleb based on his interview. I was wondering if he was too full of it. But he comes off great on the show so far and I really like him. Somehow he brings sanity to that tribe.
Agreed. I thought he had a big ego and it turned me off in the preseason. But he’s grown on me. I mean, I’m sure he’s smart enough to know not to show his ego on the island
We also thought Jeff seemed mad! Casting went wrong on this one!
Shme feel bad for the people that got booted before the show started over for Hannah to be chosen
For 15 seconds I was sad that it wasn’t know-it-alls, now stoked for Thursdays as well as Wednesday nights
Hannah left the game like people be leaving out the hospital against medical advice (wykyk)............ I don't think she could help it. I hope she's really ok.
Nah. She wasted a spot. And she got a pretty good edit as well. Its BS
I'm happy cause I wanna see Emily cause a bunch of grief around camp.
I enjoy the podcast with the new players, would love to hear a retrospective from some Old School survivor players their perspective whomever still watches it.
Congrats Steven! 🎉
Chappell with another grenade and Ayesha’s first pick had to see medical! The curse continues.
I watched the draft right before the episode, and just sat there with my jaw hanging open, thinking, "OMG, That Aysha curse is real!" as Brandon collapsed not once, but twice.
I went to college with Brandon. We had the same major and were in classes with each other all 4 years. He’s an amazing dude and I hope he does go far
He seems like a very nice person that I would want to protect in real life, but he’s so not cut out for this game. Not everyone needs to be a physical powerhouse, but so far I’m not seeing any survival skills (shelter building), puzzle skills, strategic skills, etc. Hopefully he proves me wrong but I can’t imagine going on Survivor without training HARD for weeks to months.
I feel like the survivor new era almost made a lot of people sensitive to a “villain” type of player, like if this was Russell people wouldn’t bat and eye, I think we are being a a-bit to harsh on Emily, you can’t expect someone to change there core values and morals for a group of strangers, she is just being her self 110% and honestly I think real will respect real and she will go far this season
But if she makes final 3 she won’t get any votes, almost like the other side of the spectrum in relation to Carolyn’s game, no one will respect how she plays because she isn’t actively trying to blend in she is out there much like Carolyn
Great villains are players you love to hate but respect their gameplay. Emily just seems like a negative person.
Her gameplay isn't good so far, she's not trying to actually help she's just annoying
Please add a visual like taran so we can know who you are talking about
Hannah is this season’s Zane Knight. They both also came from messy tribes (Matsing and now Lulu)
HECK NAH! Zane wasn't a quitter. Dude just overplayed too hard. Haha 😂, but don't compare Zane to a quitter. Shes more like Colton
I also w/h liked to know more about the Savvy game, how does it get solved?
I think Hannah was craving a ciggy more than food
she could have worn a patch. I thought I have seen someone else do it.
Thoughts and prayers for Chappelle's draft
Congratulations Stephen
Is Brandon the next David Wright?
Jeff confirmed/gave away what happened at sweat v savvy because he said “since you failed… you dont have flint” or something like that. Jeff doesn’t lie so it kind of kills the ambiguity if they caught it.
Matthew from Survivor 44 was counted as a quit but I thought it was one of those valid quits on the same plane as Terry in Cambodia and Bi in DvG.
I sense a karen in Emily..all her targets have one thing in common
That's what I was thinking. We were only shown her trying to align with Brandon and Hannah
Are you serious? She was against Kaleb and sabiyah for a GOOD reason. This wasn’t anything to do with race and if it was they wouldn’t have casted her,
@@jinxthesweet unconscious bias does exist and it is something to look for in a person's gameplay. The fact is that this cast has 5 people on it that present as black and she has targeted 3 of them is a bad look. This is something that can easily be used against her if she keeps it up. Just look at Survivor 42, Drea was saved due to race politics and in Survivor 19 Bens racism played a part in him being voted out.
There have been plenty of studies done on survivor that show contestants favor certain demographics (white, straight, male, in their 30s). You can have your own opinion on Emily, but this issue is something to keep an eye on
@@nicheinterests if you watch Hannah’s exit interview with rob she explained Emily’s moves and also talked positively about her as a human so that doesn’t scream to me “racist Karen”
@@nicheinterests bruh she targeted them because they are strong + they are a duo
Kendra, Katurah and Kellie? I wonder what we should name that alliance...🤔
😂😅
I know your joke but they probably will call it “when the stars align” or something similar
Sifu is awesome. I will always root for the metalhead.
Okay so, Hannah clearly wasn’t ready for the show, that being said it’s 50/50 her fault and castings fault. Along with that. If you saw the rest of your tribe would you want to stay given the fact you have no shelter, no flint and a tribe that is clearly doomed?
Hannah doesn’t possess the true survivor spirit but her tribe is going to crash and burn unless there’s a swap, and happy at the very least she didn’t waste our time any more.
She seems like a good person but an awful contestant. Hope we can focus on the rest of the very interesting cast
DUDE! Dont give me that BS. "What would you do if you was in her shoes?" I wouldn't quit thats for damn sure! The shows been out for 23 years. And has 44 seasons. It doesnt matter if my team are a bunch of misfits. I wont quit. Thats just lame.
@@BigPapiMatt guess we won’t focus on the rest of the cast then.
Congrats Stephen!
Enjoyed Owen
00:29 "The little podcast that won't quit" LOL, I see what you did there.
This episode was just beyond frustrating. Emily is a terrible person, Brandon was pathetic, and Hannah should’ve been grilled by Jeff more than she did (and not gotten her Torch snuffed). Casting disappointed us.
so true, it's hard to find a bright spot when you're constantly bombarded with moronic, despicable, and flaccid behavior with no players to point out how moronic, despicable, and flaccid the behavior is.
In today's climate, you have to be careful grilling millennials. Jeff ain't trying to get cancelled for "bullying" someone.
@@steveandersen996When Jeff asked the tribes if they're offended by the word "guys" and everyone was cool with it, except one person and that one person won.
They should have called it the Sweat and Savvy Showdown
Great mind Owen
Emily is hilarious!!!!
I knew Hannah was finna be a quitter the moment i seen her in interviews. Honestly they gave her a better edit than she deserved.
And wasnt Rob hatting on Jackson when he quit? Honestly its pretty lame to be out there for 2-3 days and be like "ya this sucks i think im kut. I rather sleep on a bed"
Like wtf did she think this was finna be Big Brother? She knew she wasnr going to get a bed. SmH
Jackson was pulled from the game because he lied to medical about the medication he was taking. He didn’t want to leave the game if I remember correctly.
great episode, definitely enjoyed the Lulu tribe the most hope we get to see more tribe dynamic for red and blue
Anyone Thought about casting putting Emily consciously in this challenge weak tribe so she is not going to get voted out first?
I have to say "what was Hannah thinking" for many reasons !
Sabiyah winning this season 100%
Edit: Good to see Rob's on board with the right answer made this comment before watching 😂
Can we just rename this season SURVIVOR:KAREN Emily is problematic her targets all have one thing in common
At first I thought she was just going off that whole 'he's had his chance' thing, but then she got paranoid over Kaleb and Sabayah being friendly and I sort of started looking at her sideways.
Yes I definitely sense a Karen in her
@@kyletucker3811 how does this always mean it’s about race??? Y’all really look at everything through a distorted lense
Carolyn, last year, made for good TV. I am waiting for Emily to get the boot. I don't feel she has made good tv so far. Good luck to her proving me wrong.
To me the quitting is another problem of the shorter game. I miss when the game was longer but they gave them rice. They have to simulate struggle by giving them nothing and makes people quit early on, vs the psychological struggle of a longer game which leads to more interesting “break downs”.
IF you know you MIGHT be part of the cast for SURVIVOR, learn how to swim, get in shape, learn how to make fire, get ready. I just don't get it.
I actually enjoyed this conversation more than the episode. That was just a horrible start to the season. I really hope it improves.
lowkey bizarre premiere tho but lets goooooooooo
Hannah needed a cigarette and a goddamn lighter.
I want a miracle for Emily to stay next week too 😩
I will forget Hannah.
So glad people see that Emily is an undercover KAREN. Talk about lack of self awareness; or maybe she is aware... 🤔
Does that mean no more wine with Stephen😢😂
replace Hannah with Owen
That was a waste of 90 minutes.
Unpopular opinion, but they’ve taken the ‘casting people who look like the viewers’ too far. I know in early seasons the whole ‘athletic jock/attractive fit females’ became a bit redundant, but people quitting, passing out in the first challenge, crying at camp on day 1’ is starting to be redundant as well. It’s not like the athletic people were consistently winning the show. We’ve went from tribes with 90% athletic people and 10% strategists/characters to 90% strategists/characters and 10% athleticism.
Its just not as enjoyable for me personally watching these casts lately. Maybe I’m in the minority but I don’t relate to lawyers, and scientists any more than the average viewer related to fitness freaks and athletes.
They need to find some middle ground because survivor has went from ‘war of athletes and models’ to ‘revenge of the nerds’, and if I’m not going to be able to relate to either demographic at least watching people who don’t faint from rowing a boat was more entertaining
🛵 You're plenty right. No former NFLers or Navy Seals this go round. Just a bunch of crybabies. 😭
You're on point this cast is genuinely unlikeable outside of like Jake, Kaleb, Sabiyah, Austin and Bruce the rest of them are Ls for so many reasons, at least those 5 came off as genuinely likable people by the end of the premiere, the rest of them came off as weak babies or out of touch lunatics if they even got screen time at all
@@TheDXJC56 I’m sure survivor has done studies into the demographics of who’s watching the show in 2023. Maybe I’m in the minority when it comes to people who consume this show. Im a die hard, and again I’m not saying I need to see a cast of supermodels or former professional athletes, but when I look at a cast, my first question is ‘would I have a drink or go out socially with this person’ and for 4 seasons straight there’s maybe 5 players total that seem like the type of person I would enjoy hanging out with. I will admit players like Carson, Owen and others did grow on me, and I’m sure some will this season as well. Survivor Australia still prioritizes people who are generally in decent shape and make competitions exciting and there’s no lack of gameplay in any of their seasons.
I at least had hope for Mattsing and Ulong before losing begun. I have no reason to have any reason to have any reason to have any....... to think yellow tribe is not the worst looking tribe ever. The brains had a bad first round but you didn't have doubt in MULTIPLE MEMBERS by the end of it. Brandon, i am sorry but you were a disaster, but a great tv at the least.
I think Sabiyah , Kaleb , and Sean are going to go far. And eventhough Emily is annoying shes probably finna be the seasons "villan"
What's happening to Survivor, I miss the days of Rob, Tony, Ciara and Parvati.
What come on, you didn't love clown ass Sifu running around like he's Tony? I mean come on the guy's such a big Tony fan he's never seen how that worked out for Tony on Game Changers! 😂
If you saw me spell woo's name wrong in chat, no you didn't
“The haters” no pretty soft cast and show
Was a poor cast. Worst premiere in recent memory.
Matthew could have stayed last season so technically he quit but it was a lot more justified
He had to have extensive surgeries so it was a medical quit. Just not life threatening. Life changing though is you ruin your shoulder. Hannah just wanted to smoke
Matthew is like Dana in Survivor Philippines, who was technically cleared to stay but left the game due to medical distress.
@@lolabush2201 people just don't understand how complicated shoulder injuries are and for a guy like MGM that is a barber if he can't have full range of motion in his shoulder he's fucked for his career (how you gonna cut someone's hair if your shoulder can't be lifted over the customer's head)
Is this the most unlikeable cast in years? This could rival Thailand.
No, nothing can rival Thailand. I think this specific tribe had some unlikable people and that's who we got to see for most of this episode.
You're on point I felt the same way everybody on this episode came off as extremely unlikable or bizarre outside of like Kaleb, Sabiyah, Jake, Austin and Bruce, those were the only 5 that I got normal human being vibes from the rest I've got no idea how they function in society on a day-to-day basis
Lulu could be the worst tribe ever, and Hannah's quit is so pathetic. Embarrassing, what are you expecting when you go out there. Survivor isn't for everyone. Season couldn't start worse, but i still think this will be great season. Let's wait and see
What the hell was that? I haven't seen that much whining and crying since they cancelled Romper Room, I've been sadly saying for a few years that my favourite show of all time has jumped the shark, with the shorter season and silly twists, but that was horrid
Reba probably ain't spawning a winner. We barely saw them.
LuluLosers will probably be our new Tika.
Brandon is my winner pick. Reba definitely got the least amount of screentime, so I agree.
They didnt need to get anything. Doesnt mean they won't have a winner. We gutta wait for next week to see which tribe gets shown.
Sabiyah gonna win so you're on point about the Lululosers
@TheDXJC56 Sabiyah has a good chance. I think Brandon is winning, tho. He's already getting the classic growth edit. From day 1 passing out to day 26 final tribal.
@@bomberdawesome Don't people that get the growth edit traditionally lose though?
I still like hannah and idc that she quit! She was very real for recognizining her own limitations
I think Hannah was wanting to be in a showmance but she didn't like her options so she left
This is hilarious. I was already shipping her and Brandon
Thankgoodness Survivor and AR are back after watching BB25 so far, yikes !!!
Survivor needs to find din personality to come back on. Not a fan of this casting.
Yu
OMG is it just me or are most of these contestants an embodiment of how Millennials are 😖. Complacent, comfortable, lack of discipline and preparation, outspoken without regards to consequences . Probably their idea of preparation is searching in Google and TikTok how things will be in the island while enjoying her Venti Latte. Sigh I’m afraid for future seasons. We need more older peeps in the tribes.
@Evzsz i mean Hannah is a millennial and the one who gets the most flack for her showing tonight
@Evzsz lol guilty as charged. Sigh I can imagine some of them saying “Are you strength-shaming me, boo? Blocked!”
I agree 💯
@Evzsz i hear yah. Its just so entertaining:
Pyramids and aliens to manifesting to star signs etc. Outspoken negative Emily, crying Brendan then there’s the Tony spy-shack wannabe doing taichi on the boat. This is gonna be a weirdo-filled fun season. Kudos to the casting producer for giving us TV gold.
@@slutinawhorinskaya lol totally
Am I the only person questioning why EVERYONE on this season knew who Bruce was the moment they all stepped onto their mats. The one chick on his tribe said she was happy with how strong everyone on her tribe was and she looked over and she immediately sees Bruce from last season?????? Jeff even comes right out and says there's one familiar face that everyone knows. Its Bruce. Season 45 filmed before season 44 even aired. So how and why would anyone on season 45 know who he was and what happened to him. He should have just came on season 45 as a new player same as everyone else. There was no reason anyone needed to know what happened to him. No one, not even Rob or anyone in the chat even metioned it throughout the whole recap.
They left to go play right after Josh’s boot. They all had seen the first half of 44
No, this cast left the US during S44 and saw up to the merge I believe.
I had to be reminded cause I was like wth is Bruce? And then I was like, why did he get to return?
@@haveanicedave1551Because of his quick exit. Jeff announced it on his podcast after the Premier of 44. And it's been mentioned many many times in this preseason RHAP stuff. Not sure how ya missed it.
@@kyletucker3811 Once season 44 voted for a winner, I turned the channel.
Any contestant who voluntarily quits should be fined $1M!!!!! Where do they find these losers? One's as athletic as a beached whale, the other's crying cause she got mud on her face. How about they fire the show's casting director?
I hated every cast member but two
Emily, is that you?
There are a few that seem okay. Bruce is annoying and I don't like that principal guy. He abandoned his teammate then later went crying to his teammate about Emily.
It’s embarrassing to see what gen z and millennials have become, no common sense what so ever
they're brainwashed
What a horrible tribe. Emily is horrible but entertaining Brandon might be the worst player I’ve ever seen and Hannah was an abject failure who at least tried during the competition. The two black members of that tribe are completely unlikeable as well. Didn’t see much of the other two tribes to give much of an opinion on them but this was a horrific episode.
What was wrong with Sabiyah and the other guy?
I thought Sabiyah and Kaleb were very likeable! Maybe I missed something?
No one cares about Suits Rob lmao. Great pilot ep but its a terrible show to watch if you actually know anything about law.
Sad cast! Can we find some real people instead of these artificial folks tatting their insecurities all over their bodies. No wonder Hannah quit; she’s clearly fake. Brandon has no business on that island. Think Survivor is over!