DJI Mavic 3: The TOUGH LOVE Review - Part 1
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Part 2 has been delayed first by DJI releasing new firmware just as I was about to upload it which made it very out of date, then I filmed all my reshoots and caught COVID-19 which has floored me for the last 10 days. It is slow progress but I am working on it again. It will be worth the wait. :)
Like all my reviews this took many weeks to make and it was never going to be ready for when the embargo was lifted for the DJI Mavic 3, but that’s fine and nothing new for me!
By really taking my time and doing exhaustive testing I have been able to really get to know everything about this drone. Whilst it is missing features that are coming in late January, most importantly the active track, all the main things I focus on when reviewing drones are present. This is a camera review, albeit a flying camera review!
I decided to split it into two as there’s so much to cover and it would be over an hour long if I didn’t!!
This is a very impressive and powerful drone that has a huge amount of improvements over the Mavic 2 Pro but there’s also some things that in my opinion DJI absolutely MUST fix to justify its extraordinarily high price tag comparably to its predecessor.
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Part 2 has been delayed first by DJI releasing new firmware just as I was about to upload it on the 6th December which made it very out of date. So I reshot all my image tests and filmed then new footage for the new features. Just after finishing the filming, I caught COVID-19 which has floored me for the last 10 days. It is slow progress but I am working on it again. It will be worth the wait. :)
How did you get audio without hearing the drone? Please explain this to me I use this for a lot of my videos but I always hear the drone
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Great stuff as usual. Went by quick. Excited for the sequel. 🤓👍
Thanks oh purple one!
This is such a beautiful review!!! Exactly what I wanted to see. Thank you very much. You must have had such a hard time syncing all of your voice with the footage together. Can't wait for part 2!
Thanks! Yeah syncing isn’t fun. In part two I ask them to put in a time of day freerun timecode which would be helpful for that and for finding your shots :)
Nothing to see here.Just two awesome content creators exchange opinions. 😀
Hey it’s the “TV cameras still huge guy” who only uploads once in a blue moon!!!
You are one of the very few channels where a 30 minute video feels more like a 15 minute video and keeps me engaged the whole time. Great job Philip :)
An education as always! What a great addition to the discussion. Looking forward to Part 2. 👍
Thank you for clearing up the ProRes workflow issues. So in theory, with two M3Cs, 8 to 10 batteries, a generator or huge battery bank, a fast computer, LOTS of secondary storage, and an assistant to handle the data management while flying; an operator could in theory sustain a full day of ProRes HQ shooting. As you say, frankly, ridiculous.
Huge smile on my face every time Philip makes a video
After watching this, Philip became the voice in my head. I’m not complaining.
Always worth the wait for your reviews! Not only do your in-depth reviews help me to make informed purchasing decisions, I also ALWAYS learn something about cameras, filming, or cats I didn't before!
8 minutes in and this is so incredibly well done...Thank you for your attention to detail, beautiful storytelling and always good music selection. It's been a treat being a big fan since 2008.
Thanks Joel :)
As always a absolute masterpiece Philipp, it’s getting to a point that the only reviews I’m personally looking forward to watching are yours. Can’t wait for part 2!
Thanks Javier :)
Thanks for a great and thorough review Philip! Really looking forward to part 2. I just want to add my issues with the Mavic 3 in your comment section, just in case DJI listens to your input and maybe even read the comments (I really think they should).
1) Why does the Mavic 3 have such a crippled and limited gimbal pan (+/- 5 degrees) compared to the Mavic 2 Pro (+/- 75 degrees)? For me, that gimbal pan is extremely valuable when filming moving subjects and making them look cool. Plus it's safer and easier to fly forward with the gimbal panned far out, instead of flying sideways'ish trying to accomplish the same thing. This one is for the "How to make simple things much more complicated" books. Sigh…
2) With the new controllers, it seems we lose either way. To use a bigger screen to control the app, like an iPad or something, we have no other choice but to use the RC-N1 controller, which has fewer buttons, dials and wheels, and is too basic compared to the old Mavic 2 Pro controller. Then, if we choose the RC Pro instead to get a better controller, we are stuck with a tiny screen, and cannot connect for instance an iPad to control the app. I know we can connect an external monitor and get an HDMI feed out, but we cannot control the app by touching the monitor. Not a good solution. Sigh…
3) Not being able to chose other ISO values than 400 and 800 when in D-Log. I know people keep repeating that high ISO combined with low light and log footage is a bad idea since you can get noise etc, but I want to make that decision myself, not have DJI make it for me. Noise reduction in post usually isn't that hard. Sigh…
4) Why the FLY app, when they already have the much better GO 4 app? Sigh…
5) Why no enhanced color display when shooting D-Log like the Mavic 2 Pro has? Sigh…
6) The non-swappable SSD in the Cine version like you talk about. Sigh… By the way, it wouldn’t surprise me if the so called “SSD” was just a micro SD card soldered to the motherboard, since the weight difference between the regular Mavic 3 and the Cine version just happen to be the same as what a micro SD card weighs…
7) I’ve spent quite a few days in DaVinci Resolve comparing ProRes to the other codecs, and I can’t really see much of a difference between them (in normal ISO and good light), even when pushing and grading the footage quite heavily. I expected a much larger difference between the codecs, especially with the much higher bitrate and the ridiculous large file sizes of the ProRes.
8) I have seen test footage where the propellers of the Mavic 3 can be seen almost as a “color vibration” on the left and right side of the footage when flying at certain angles to the sun, like in this video by Darren McHardy (you can clearly see it from around 4:55 in the video): czcams.com/video/X3YpjiYcCkQ/video.html To me, this seems quite concerning… Could it be the bright color of the propeller tips that reflects light towards the camera lens?
9) The plastic toy-tele-camera. Sigh…
10) Releasing a drone now, without a C-class marking. Sigh…
I could have added more than these 10, but I haven’t got the time, since I need to make more popcorn in case you publish part 2.
Cheers,
Eivind
Cheers Eivind
I cover a fair amount of what you talk about in part 2.
The gimbal can’t pan because of its size, a real shame. There was ISO higher in the pre-release version but it went with release firmware. I shot stuff for part 2 at 6400! Being forced to use the over sharpened and too contrasty normal mode for lower light is not good.
The gamma assist for log will come back. I had it and again lost it with new firmware. I’ve seen a screenshot of the January firmware and it’s deffo in that version.
The SSD is is an SSD. It’s too fast to be something like a micro SD. it can write 5.1k 50p ProRes Hq after all!
The basic controller is a mistake on a drone this price. Interestingly the iOS app has the ability to change the exponential values of the sticks but the android one in the RC pro doesn’t. One other thing is if you look at the file directory of the Rc pro it says DJI Go V5, not DJI fly!
@@philipbloom GO V5...? Wouldn't that be nice, if they not only fixed a lot of stuff in firmware, but also surprised us with a brand new and even better GO app! Wouldn't fix the basic controller, but...
I had my finger on the "buy" button of the M3 Cine the same day they launched it, but after a few initial reviews, I was leaning more towards the Fly More Combo. But after having watched part 1 of your review, I'm actually thinking about keeping my M2P instead. Even though the M3 seems better in so many ways, some of the bad points of the M3 is close to being deal breakers for me.
My boss (I'm self employed, so that would be me) says I can have a brand new Mavic 3 Cine or whatever as a pre-Christmas gift, but I think I'll wait until the big DJI M3 firmware update in January (and your part 3, hint hint...) and see what's been fixed or not.
The choice of app annoys me. With the fly app we lose waypoints, the ability to adjust saturation, sharpening, contrast, turning off landing protection, the ability to tap to grab focus (apparently it's either manual or continuous, no button to grab focus), the ability to alter joystick exp, and add to that the loss of tripod mode.
Why DJI? Just give people the choice, it's supposed to be for more advanced pilots, people who want control.
I cannot wait for part 2... I cannot tell you how many reviews I've asked in comments to talk about thr different shooting modes and the different frame rates to see if there's aliasing or quality loss and proper comparisons between h265 and pro res. man you are the first person I've seen actually talk about what matters... I must have asked about 20 content creators i swear. Thank you for this.
Amazing as always, Philip. That rising shot of the London skyline was a particular highlight.
Thanks Gerald :)
Thank you for all of the hard work on these videos! Huge appreciation for the invaluable work to help out people making the right gear choices for their projects
Your reviews are always extremely well balanced Philip, and very enjoyable to watch. Thank you for the pleasure. Looking forward to part 2. Regards, Jay
Thanks for all the efforts that goes into this video, your 19 takes on this one scene really opened my eyes to how professionals dwell on nailing their shots exactly. Love your reviews and masterclasses.
Thanks for a beautiful film, an in depth and considered review, that must have taken you weeks of hard work - it was worth it.
Looking forward to part 2 👍
Stunning review - as ever - and thank you for giving us all of the critical information that we need to know about this drone. 42 minutes and 19 takes of the opening shot shows us all we need to know about your commitment to the cause. Amazing dedication 👏
PB...what a wonderful and plucky thing to do, to present a review of this magnitude and depth in a manner that simply forces one to acknowledge the skill and experience and the love you have for this hobby. We benefit ....thank you !
The greatest cliffhanger of 2021 so far🍿
I still love my Mavic Pro 2 and finding it hard to justify the price tag for an upgrade right now. I think part 2 will determine the fate of my credit card. Will need a genuine leap in image quality and dynamic range to justify it.
you got that right! wait it out.
Agreed, But I already think Cine is dead to me.
I agree with you about the M2P, although DJI have taken the M2P off their retail list according to their website at least and won’t be issuing any more updates it’s still an incredibly capable aerial platform for photographers though I do worry about what the implications maybe for the Go 4 app.
A great review combined with a great filmic experience as always! Can’t wait to see part 2!
Excellent as always! I find the giant ghost flare with two green circles (as seen at 9:16) more distracting than the similar flare on tuppence. Can't wait for part two!
Sudden excitement rush when I see your Mavic 3 review in my feed. I've been trying to get one for the last two weeks. Waiting for the part two!
Man, I gotta say, I’m loving your videos. The information, along with the video footage and music just makes for some seriously amazing videos. Your awesome voice helps as well. Great job and greetings from Florida.
One of the few youtube reviewers I completely trust. Thank you for the time and effort. P.S. And we love your kindness and dedication to cats too! We just started a nonprofit here on Maui to rescue and care for cats.
Thank you but THANK YOU for caring for the cats on Maui. Makes me happy when I hear about people like you doing things like that.🙂
A beautifully filmed review. I expected to half watch and half listen but really enjoyed your style and story telling. I had a Mavic Pro Platinum, then sold it for a Mavic Air 2 and now waiting on the 3. On to Part 2 and looking forward to seeing what you've learned.
As per usual the accustomed King of reviewers has has never lets us down :) - thanks sooooo much and well and truly worth the wait Philip. I cannot believe in this day and age they have non removable media in a unit like this - doesn't make sense? - Looking forward to Part 2 :)
Once again a review from a Cinematographer.. That knows what he is talking about.. Thank you for taking the time to produce this legendary review..
Thanks Juanne :)
Philip, this is the best review I have ever seen. I admire You :)) this is really best work and I started even think about it why it is so good. I mean not how You did it but just why You did it. As far as I understand that market I don't expect someone paid You for it soo much. It had to be just Your passion to make it. Your time. Your enormous engagement.
This is just amazing. Thank You for that.
Extraordinary, as usual. I share your love for "low and slow", so we need to march on DJI with pitchforks and torches DEMANDING the return of tripod mode for ALL DJI drones.
Always a great day when we get a new video especially when you know part 2 is coming soon! ❤️😊
Thank you for pointing out the overlooked issue of offloading your data directly from the drone due to the internal SSD. I've been saying this since it was announced, but no one else really tests out a product quite like you do for their CZcams review. I am glad you took your time with this video, and produced the most detailed and the most accurate review of this very expensive drone.
Thanks you Mohammad. That workflow was the first thing that I thought of when I heard it was an internal SSD. 😞
I didn't think this would have been such a problem because I assumed that they would allow the drone to charge and transfer via USB c i guess i was wrong..
Any kind of review you do is not boring at all, its like watching a short movie always watching it till the last minute👍 your video’s are on a next level🎉
Geez mate I bloody love your reviews. Completely unique and a marvel to watch.
Shooting aerials from helicopters for years, during rehearsals the pilot and I would usually first establish "Number One", "Number Two" etc. These were positions in space that defined where the camera ship would be at a certain point during the shot. In other words, waypoints. We really need waypoints. Safer, easier and photographically superior drone operations would result.
Thanks for your honest and clearly unbiased review, Philip! I've been pretty happy with my Mavic Tuppence and honestly don't see any reason to upgrade, especially due to the hugely inflated price of the Mavic 3. I'm looking forward to part 2!
Wow - loved it. Can't believe the h.265 noise levels - looking forward to part two already!
Fantastic work! I’ve been watching reviews of the 3 since it came out and your have the most engaging, entertaining, and informative of them all. I’m still debating wether the cine is worth it. Looking forward to part 2!
Thanks Jordan!
So much to learn. When I watch your reviews I always feel like I'm in a Philip Bloom masterclass and failing terribly. However, I always move on inspired to be better. Thanks for all the insight!
Thanks Ray :)
Wonderful footage to go along with your thoughts. Particularly the close-in parallax stuff. Nice! Appreciate the thoughtful take on the latest from DJI. Still struggling with my standard Fly More (2nd combo after replacing the 1st)
First time finding your channel as I am looking to get the most out of my M3. Amazing review and story telling. You really are an artist and I will be following for Part 2!
Thanks Blake :)
This isn't just a review video, this is storytelling. As always, it's so nice to watch and listen to that magical voice. Please continue, Mr. Philip.
There's so much yin and yan going through my mind between the Cine and standard version. But surprisingly to me, the deeper and deeper I go (with help from people like you!) the more I lean towards the standard version. Now THAT'S a conclusion I certainly didn't expect to come to when I started this journey!
D Log works, and is much easier to work with than Pro Res.
Philip wow this is a great documentary. Perfect in every way . I forgot this was a Mavic 3 review LOL
Super! Thank you, I like this slow but intriguing narration, and honest attitude. Thank You!
I have never seen a review of this magnitude. I’ve watched quite a bit on this And other drones. This was very well planned, articulated and well rounded from start to finish. It kept me interested through the whole video. Great job sir
Thanks :)
A great review and a video! I've learned so much and really enjoyed it! Thank for your work!
Awesome review! I’m coming from the inspire 2 and having a hard time justifying the cine version with prores. Excited for part 2 🙌🏼
Great review and very entertaining. As I wrote to you before u are one of the few last remaining truly honest people doing reviews out there . Much appreciated . can’t wait for part 2
Thanks Demetris :)
Can we all just acknowledge the smooth Story Blocks plug, I chuckled a little. So good. Subed.
28 minutes review, PART 1! lol
Keep it up, your videos are always interesting and a lot of fun.
The camera analysis was really useful. Particularly the focus/macro info. Thank you!
Excellent part one, waiting impatiently por part two 😎 I got a M3 cine for myself, i cannot imagine doing all my personal work flights using ProRes (or none really), but i can imagine working on production environment for clients (been on a few, targeting some more) where i do not need to fill up the all of the SSD at once, and can offload it quickly in between shots to my Macbook Pro (2021, TB 4). During most of the scenes there is a lot of "dead" time in between flights on set. For a full day out shooting, yes i agree it is a total pain in the a*s using prores on the M3c with non removable storage. I really love this drone and picture quality, even now with half the features, but i crave for manual control on dials and buttons, i really miss what we had on Go4/ M2Pro. I'll be working on a pretty showreel for my youtube with the Mavic 3, anytime soon. If you care to see the one i shot with A2s on the Azores, i would aprecciate it :) regards Philip!
Not remotely in the position to buy one of these, but watching your videos is always such a delight!
The best review of this drone by far! You're the only reviewer to point out the absurdity of using a built-in SSD.
haha I love that I get a ton of actually helpful/useful information and then comedy at places like 15:08. I feel like you just get me!
Finally a review of yours where I’m not in a rush to go out and buy it… we’ll, at least until part 2 anyway.
Love the review as usual. Looking forward to part two hopefully soon 🙏🏻
This coming week…just need some more info for DJI before I film my last pick ups
"there is another solution, buy a second 3." - Philip Bloom is the fucking best.
Really fancy your show, mate! Can't wait for part 2!
Really weird watching this got me thinking about jumping on the Overland to Richmond and having a pint by the fire down at The White Cross...Superb review, and analysis re: the internal SSD, so well thought out.
Thanks Russ! Being a warm jacket for The White Cross!!
I was supposed to go to the gym. Some things just have more priority. 28 minutes of well worthy entertainment for setting that aside. As always Philip, Thank you for making another great video. 🙏
Thanks Anthony!
A really good review Philip of the M3. Looking forward to part II :-)
Entertaining and informative as usual! Thanks Philip.
Congratulations to this excellent review! 👍🏻🏆 This is the first review i watched, where the way how you did this was becoming more interesting than the product itself! 😊 Perfect! And thank you! 🙏🏻☺️
Thanks Karim 🙂
Stunning work, as always. This was more exciting to watch than Scorsese's latest flicks. Can't wait for the sequel!
That rising reveal of the city shot is incredible. 🤯
thanks for this absolutely fantastic review. i love the way this video was made. I'm really looking forward to part 2, but save it for tomorrow ;-)
Thank you for the first part. Very informative as usual. You confirm what I already suspected: this is not a drone that I will buy. As things stand now, with all kinds of travel restrictions, I'm more tempted to get another Phantom 4, a Pro, saving a lot of money and utilising all the batteries and other gear that I already have. I like the image and video quality and features of the 4 Pro. It's easier to spot as well. To me, that's an advantage. If I want stealth, I have a Mini 2.
Still looking forward to the second part.
Brilliant review Philip, just as always!
I’ve been waiting for this review! Thank you!!
looking forward for the next chapter, really great review :-)
When I saw the storyblocks ad, I could not resist anymore. I hit the like button.
Wow, this is one of the best armature videos that I have seen. Great Job! Great footage, and great colors.
Philip isn't no amateur! He's as professional as they come :)
Wow! Just wow about the effort you put in.
Why would i even start a channel when there are people out there like you.
Crazy
What a cliffhanger! Great as always
Another masterpiece by incredible Mr. Bloom!
I'm late to the party by about two months and Part 2 is already out, but I have to admit that the trailer at the end has me more hyped and intrigued than any film trailer I've seen in months, hah.
Man, what is with this short format review 😋? Masterful segue to the Storyblocks segment btw. I really hadn't considered the SSD impact to workflow, now that it has been pointed out you just can't unsee it. Interesting drone though for sure. Interesting they added a second camera I'm not sure who asked for but did not include removable SSD media that would be important to most laying down the considerable $$ for the CINE version. Looking forward to part two!
Just.... THANK YOU! I was almost forced to become a YT video reviewer because no one was willing to talk about how "un professional" the Cine workflow experience truly is. I cannot believe the internal HD isn't powered via usb power. I would have taken 10min less flight time for removable SSDs. This cannot be used in any standard high paced production environment. 😒
Welcome. Yeah it’s crazy. It should be able to be powered by usb for offloading for sure.
In part two I suggest they make a dummy battery to usb power delivery so you can offload without having to wait for a battery to charge. But to be honest micro sd looks like the future for me here. If only the 4K h265 didn’t have crazy NR
Great review, as always. Looking forward to part 2. Thank you for highlighting the issues with the SSD, seems to have been forgotten about on the 36235 other reviews!
Thanks Edward. I saw a couple of people mention it wasn’t ideal but didn’t see anyone go through the full nightmare workflow and data management from flying to offload. Its frankly ridiculous! 🤓
I don’t get how nobody at DJI flagged these things before production. The moment I got the specs sent to me, before I got the drone, I said that surely you haven’t put in a non removable 1tb SSD?
@@philipbloom it certainly does mean very careful planning of shots to reduce amount captured. Hopefully they will be able to offer ProRes 422 / LT with a firmware update , at least that would make it a little less painful. Still undecided which version of the mavic 3 to get so bit of a moot point for me at the moment.
Great Review. Like many M2 pro owners my finger has been hovering over the Cine 3 buy button but you have really highlighted some real life problems that I hadn't considered. looking forward to part 2. Thank you.
"Gimp ball protector", I'm dead 😂😂😂
The most seamless Storyblock integration I've seen
The best review as always and can't wait for part 2 - How has the rest of CZcams not highlighted these seeming obvious issues? Killing a battery just to download footage ( if you've even got one charged after a flight) seem bonkers.
It’s frankly ridiculous! 😃
Finally someone took a good look at the pointlessness of the internal drive.
I'm waiting for part 2 ;)
Love how your reviews are like documentaries.
Thanks Pia. I always make a huge effort with them. :)
Only review that talk about workflow when work with Cine version. Thank for a great review.
Thank you! Yeah the workflow ruins the cine version 😞
fantstic as always! ... always love when I read "PART 1" *lol*
Wow as usual what a stellar production! I do want to make mention that in nearly every shot from the drone I see a slight stutter particularly noticeable in foliage.
I wonder if that is a writing speed issue/sensor processing problem.
Another amazing video, Philip! I'm just about to take delivery of the M3 Cine this week. I avoided using ProRes in the Inspire 2 in favour of RAW and your teaser clips at the end are giving me horrible flashbacks to being asked to shoot in ProRes and not RAW on the Inspire. The client even went with the MicroSD (h264) footage over the ProRes in the end.
Thank you! The difference in noise is bizarre, the REALLY heavy noise reduction in 4K H264/ H265 is unacceptable as in the crazy over sharpening of the normal colour mode and that it’s only 8 bit in H265 (log is 10 bit)
So good! Thank you for all your work.
Excellent Philip. Worth the wait. Exactly my thoughts reg the Cine version. Looking forward to part 2 ! You know I love large panoramas, hopefully you had time to experiment with this also. If not I will when I get mine. One advantage with the regular version with the regular remote, is that you (when the SDK for 3 is available) can use 3'rd party software, such as Litchi, giving you more options (such as waypoints, panoramas, follow the height of the smartphone, etc) than what DJI might be willing to offer you. Particularly through the new Fly app. AND happy to see that I made it in the video, for 2 seconds! LOL! 😃 - Keep up your hard work. Ole
Thanks Ole. You know I was pretty much 5 years to the day that we were filming those whales! Regarding the remote, because DJI cheaped out and used the same one as the mini 2 and air 2s I have one I have been using instead of the RC Pro because i can use my slow sticks on it. I've never tried Litchi, will check it out!
Excellent as always Philip !
Philip - An innuendo fun filled review - Must have taken forever to trawl through 400gb of data - Maybe longer 😁 Thanks for your comprehensive review - really appreciate the work and really enjoyed it - Thanks
Hello Philip, when do you come with part 2, love your review, as always top!.
Epic! exceptional review as always!
The best quality reviews on the planet.
Such an detailed and informative review. Looking forward to the second part. :) For me, the dji fly app is an issue as well. I hoped that they only use it for the more consumer friendly drones. But why would you choose it for the mavic 3 over the dji go 4 app? What do you think about it?