Preemptive Navigation
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- The setup doc/tutorial map: docs.google.co...
According to tests I have done here docs.google.co... this is faster on average and greatly reduces outliers compared with traditional nav. The downside is that the lowest reasonable highroll time is slightly increased from about 7 to 11 seconds.
Note: the example where I used pie again because I was "lost" was a pretty bad example. Obviously, if there are only two directions, it doesn't necessarily mean you have to use preemptive. An additional preemptive check is best in a 4-way or a 5-way.
Update: Use 8rd over 5rd. The issue with 5rd is that mob spawns are slightly increased - with 8rd that almost never seems to happen. And the readings don't become harder with 8rd - there are just as many pure readings, so it is objectively better overall.
On some computers, the pie readings change depending on your render distance. Not all, but to be safe you should retake readings using 8rd in the practice map if you're switching to 8rd.
Here after Crookst used this in his new sub 10
I remember trying this when you first made a video on it and it was already very effective then can't wait to relearn the revamped form of pre-nav
cheers man good luck :)
Pretty interesting mechanic. I tried something similar, but in 1.8 for libraries, which seemnway harder to find... I always tried to Look at the blockentities, which works sometimes. Do you have any idea how to find a library with pie? You seem very smart in terms of the pie chart :D
seems like that would be difficult, but certainly worth investigating... I'll have a look at it tonight. the issue I see is that libraries contain 2 chests, which isn't enough to stop pie from confusing those areas with areas with a few random stronghold chests. the reason this works so well in 1.16 is that spawners measure significantly higher than even many chests, so false positives are very rare.
you tried lil bro, you tried, forsen is too much of a donkey tho
hey man im really confused please can you make a more focused in depth video thank you.
Very cool. I’ll learn this tonight
That's so fucking complicated meanwhile runners needs like 2 seconds to figure it out. You can't just tell what's needs to spike and what i should look at? Can't understand the tutorial and trying by on my way but i don't get it bro
EDIT: You just look where is the most orange color on pie chart and thats it
yep
That is WAYTOODANK
hey, i didnt really understand the document, i followed every step but still, can you make a detailed video about it? (or detailed doc)
This idea could definitely get used in the future :)
idk what you meant by in the future it was already being used in top runs when you made that comment
do the naturally generating mobs on the superflat world affect it the readings? or do they not matter? im so confused
hmm I set mob spawning to be false for the map, but if for some reason this doesn't carry over just do /gamerule doMobSpawning false. you'll also have to do a one-time kill of all the mobs that spawned (except the cows)
@@addlama2947 ok ty
@@addlama2947 ok idk why but the gamerule just doesnt work, entities keep spawning, is it cus i have to open to lan cus cheats arent enabled idk
@@nwolc yeah you have to open to lan and enable cheats to use the command
@@addlama2947 yeah I’m doing that, idk I’ll try run it with no mods
how can i go to numbers higher than 9 when i open the pie chart?
Is my hardware just a lost cause if i get different readings on prac map when i re-boot mc & they never match up with real stronghold numbers? guess i'll have to go back to sending a random blockentity spike 🙄😂
Thanks.
I have tried multiple times to learn preemptive but my measurements in strongholds never seem to be close to matching my pure readings, and although my middle glass cage has the be and u add up to 50%, a ratio of 2-4 when looking at be/u is never a valid signal for the portal room either. Is there something I could be doing wrong?
Sorry for the late reply, haven't checked these comments in a while. It sounds like you may have strange hardware or in the worst case scenario a bugged pie. If you're still around and wanna solve this probably best to dm me on discord @addlama#7918
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pretty cool!
what is "left column % values"?
when i put the strongholdTrainer in the mods folder, my mc always crash. any idea why?
I have the same problem.
@itzmewann8816 What Java version are u using. Make sure you have jdk 17 or 19 installed
@@olock5 yes, already know the problem, thanks tho
@@wan2three Sorry for late reply been a while since I checked comments here, I've also had this problem recently. If I find a solution I'll update you
@@addlama2947 some mods aren’t compatible, especially if you followed k4 a guide you would have to disable certain mods before launching the instance
What's the name of the song?
Northern Desert, from Mystery Dungeon Sky
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PagMan
so cringe abusing f3. THERE IS NO SKILL IN THIS CATEGORY ANYMORE LOL
Ah yes, average skill denyer. Figure a strat like this out without f3 first my guy, do you know how much effort people put in stuff like this?
@@DualityofLife it takes all the skill out of the game. I’ve been speed running this game for two years. The newcomers have completely ruined this community.
@@DualityofLife so dumb oh my god quit this game
@@JonnyShocking I did have a long reply written, as I assumed you were writing these things from a position of sincerity and genuine frustration and I think it's an interesting conversation to have - F3 vs no-F3 and whether they should be separate categories rather than just different filters, where calculators and things like ninjabrainbot fit into this - tis all a seriously interesting conversation to have
but having had a cheeky look at your youtube (and the mcsr leaderboards) it seems you haven't done or submitted any runs in any of the three main RSG categories. That's totally fine - you're free to enjoy playing minecraft however you like, whether that's speedrunning category extensions (if punch-turtle% is something you're passionate about, then gioele%, fishtank% and bbh% might be some categories you enjoy), or whether it's playing minecraft in one of the other many many playstyles (redstoning, modding, playing maps, pvp, lets plays, SMPs, minigames - it's all good!
buuut from the above paragraph, I suspect you're trolling with these comments, because I find it hard to believe you've got a recording setup and make occasional youtube videos, but in all of the past 2 years you've been speedrunning, you've not gotten around to recording any of it
that is all from me - good day to you, Jonny Shocking! :D
@@CorneliusThroatworthy I literally have footage of me running back in June 2020 saved on my desktop