Best Angle Grinder (Corded)? Hilti vs Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita, Ryobi, Ridgid. Let's Settle This!

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • Corded Angle Grinders: Metabo, Harbor Freight Warrior, Hilti, Makita, Milwaukee, DeWalt, Ryobi, Ridgid, Porter-Cable, Black & Decker. Grinders compared for weight, noise, wheel stop speed, no load RPM, start-up torque, tool vibration, speed cutting through rebar with cutoff wheel, and speed cutting through rebar with grinding wheel. I always buy all of the products that I test to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel!
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  • @joemilich
    @joemilich Před rokem +626

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    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +68

      Thank you very much! It means a lot to me!

    • @ajl9491
      @ajl9491 Před rokem +7

      Hip surgery is rough for sure!!

    • @markeymark5265
      @markeymark5265 Před rokem +9

      Best wishes from a strangely Sunny London (first sun for at least a Month). I hope you feel better soon; I was there last year - not fun. Give time time.

    • @dirtyvinyl8817
      @dirtyvinyl8817 Před rokem +9

      Speedy recovery and best wishes to you.

    • @EightPieceBox
      @EightPieceBox Před rokem +7

      I think I were to binge watch these videos I'd have to play them at half speed in order to relax.

  • @caseknifes
    @caseknifes Před rokem +725

    I am kind of a Milwaukee guy, but I do listen to reason and this channel.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +58

      Thank you!

    • @rosspenner8437
      @rosspenner8437 Před rokem +102

      I've come to learn that listening to reason and listening to this channel are pretty much the same thing

    • @jbuch66koop
      @jbuch66koop Před rokem +12

      I've got the 13 amp Milwaukee grinder. It's a beast, kinda let down because that's the top model, not the 11 amp.

    • @jbuch66koop
      @jbuch66koop Před rokem +7

      Well it's actually a 5 inch grinder, I forgot.

    • @drewdoestrucks
      @drewdoestrucks Před rokem +9

      @@jbuch66koop yeah the 5” grinders are definitely the top dawgs and they do just fine with 4.5” discs as well, although the head of the grinder takes up more usable cutting diameter of the wheel as well. But then again they are heavier and more expensive, too. Would be interesting to repeat the test with 5” models and see if the brands stack up in the same order.

  • @joem2457
    @joem2457 Před rokem +172

    you are a national treasure. these videos are quick, precise, unbiased and immensely useful to the average consumer. your format is consistent and you never fail to make quality content every time!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +14

      Thanks so much!

    • @EnsinoCoisas
      @EnsinoCoisas Před rokem +6

      International* I’m from Brazil and these kind of videos help me a lot

    • @jarr1089
      @jarr1089 Před rokem +6

      International x2 I'm from Venezuela and I always watch this amazing videos

  • @stevecalabro9800
    @stevecalabro9800 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for doing a corded review! For angle grinders I don’t even have/want a cordless one. Glad you finally started including hilti in the tests since I’ve been a huge fan of them for years. I run one of their 5 inch grinders all the time and love it! Sad to see the one in this test underperformed so poorly. Hope to see more in the future! Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @lindaskidmore4615
    @lindaskidmore4615 Před rokem +670

    Good to see a corded tool review, I think there is still a place where corded is the better choice , not only in price but also function (circular saw)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +46

      Great point!

    • @Redact63Lluks
      @Redact63Lluks Před rokem +13

      With a studio style stationary shop this is great info!

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser Před rokem +12

      Some day I'm gunna make a mini gas generator so I can have a corded tool anywhere

    • @seancoyote
      @seancoyote Před rokem +35

      Yeah, slight problem with batteries is the tool only lasts as long as the battery they make. My battery on a drill had to be replaced and I had a lovely surprise that they no longer made them, and the companies that did was charging more than it would be to buy a new drill, which I did with a cord.

    • @axion8788
      @axion8788 Před rokem +5

      @@CheeseMiser Maybe a solid state "generator" would meet your needs.

  • @jacoblf
    @jacoblf Před rokem +24

    I think, as the scar on my leg attests, startup torque is very important. Especially later in the day when your hands and arms get tired from heavy work. Thanks Todd.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @DBHHellhound
    @DBHHellhound Před rokem +64

    Ridgid has a 15AMP angle grinder. Makita has a 6 amp too. Would love to see a revisit of this video in the future with low and high amperage angle grinders seperately tested.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +10

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @hcash667
      @hcash667 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I'd also like to see Bosch represented. I currently have 4 Bosch grinders in 4.5 inch. I'd like to know where they fall in the ranks when it comes time to replace them.

  • @DudeWhoSaysDeez
    @DudeWhoSaysDeez Před rokem +4

    Thank you for adding more descriptions to your graphs. I always appreciate "Lower is better" "higher is better" because qualitative numbers can be vague at times. Great video!

  • @evictioncarpentry2628
    @evictioncarpentry2628 Před rokem +52

    I got that Makita grinders on sale 4 years ago for 60 bucks.
    Used it for cutting plaster walls open with tuck point vacuum adapter. Even used it to wet cut concrete when we needed to run conduit. Still working great. Totally worth it

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +5

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @Jackson-uk8xx
      @Jackson-uk8xx Před rokem +4

      Yea, my makita Grinder is over 10 years old. In the first half of its life, it was a work tool & heavily used. Since then, I've had it at home for odd jobs & is in great shape.

  • @ChannelZeroOne
    @ChannelZeroOne Před rokem +81

    I was not disappointed. I knew the Makita was going to do well in this test. Their grinders are always very smooth and seem to out last any other grinder I have used.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +4

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @utvc3687
      @utvc3687 Před rokem +10

      Metabo outlives them all. In Europe we use them a lot in the metal industry

    • @antonsjoberg
      @antonsjoberg Před rokem

      @@utvc3687 Yes, Metabo is the premium choice in Europe

    • @serdiefgotreb
      @serdiefgotreb Před rokem +2

      @@utvc3687 the problem is that there's almost 0 distribution centers in North America. In Canada the brand disappeared.

    • @DarthKaese
      @DarthKaese Před rokem

      @@ProjectFarm I would realy like to see more european tool manifactures like "fein" in your videos.

  • @lawrencebaisley7297
    @lawrencebaisley7297 Před rokem +7

    As usual, a very nice, informative video. I went with the Makita for purchase but chose the battery-operated version for portability in power outlet free situations. Your videos rea
    ly assist in my buying decisions. Thank you sir!

  • @dmydock9357
    @dmydock9357 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for your hard work and time doing these videos! Please keep up the hard work! I’ve been looking for a Porter Cable replacement in battery powered tools, and seeing Milwaukee brand consistently in the top 3 to 5 I’m making a decision to buy their M18 brand based on your tests. No bias, no sponsors, just balls out tests until something starts smoking! Love it!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @SR22blackbird
    @SR22blackbird Před rokem +22

    Yes! Please do more of the corded tools.

  • @TheBlindReaper
    @TheBlindReaper Před rokem +30

    Your intricacy with thorough testing examination is superb. Hell, I didn't even think to compare or consider a lot of the aspects you brought up in this test. Another amazing video! 💪Thank you!🙌

  • @Ole-Son
    @Ole-Son Před rokem +4

    I love these videos, the time and attention put into the testing is amazing and refreshing in a world where quality of work has become an after thought. I do wish you would've use the Bauer with the paddle trigger, I have it and it's fabulous. Keep it up!!

  • @Colorado_Native
    @Colorado_Native Před rokem +59

    I didn't need an angle grinder until now. My garage is looking more like Todd's every week. Keep up the great work, we love your channel.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +8

      Awesome! Glad the reviews are helping you select great tools!!

    • @bolasblancas420
      @bolasblancas420 Před rokem +1

      Watch out… tools are addictive.

    • @kkarllwt
      @kkarllwt Před rokem +2

      Buy 4 or 5 of them at garage sales. Keep a diferent wheel or brush in each.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem +1

      If you only have one power tool an angle grinder is a good one to have. It'll cut, grind or sand just about anything.

  • @atfsgeoff
    @atfsgeoff Před rokem +106

    I've had a 13 amp Makita SJS II variable speed angle grinder for almost 8 years and like your Makita in this test, it is an absolute beast. The power and smoothness of it make extended use so much more pleasant and arguably safer. I splurged on the variable speed model to allow for more controlled sharpening of tool blades and removal of old paint and other finishes with a flap disk.

    • @avman2cl
      @avman2cl Před rokem +1

      I have the same one. It's definitely a beast and will buy the same thing when it's time.

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 Před rokem

      Didn't you watch the video? The makita isn't a 13amp grinder

    • @atfsgeoff
      @atfsgeoff Před rokem +7

      @@janeblogs324 It says right on the tool, 13 amp. 6:08

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 Před rokem

      @@atfsgeoff so back to my question, so you didn't watch the video?
      If you did you'd notice its not even close to 13amp

    • @atfsgeoff
      @atfsgeoff Před rokem +5

      @@janeblogs324 if you're referring to actual power draw, in the final test it draws nearly 20 amps. So yeah. Not even close. Waaay more powerful than advertised. 12:07

  • @wildchild795
    @wildchild795 Před rokem +2

    I really love and appreciate the viewer interaction you take time to do. I’ve made probably 6-7 suggestions on this video alone, and another 10-12 on other various videos. Means a lot

  • @Auguste10
    @Auguste10 Před rokem +6

    My first grinder was a Black and Decker, and maaaan, that thing is such an absolute workhorse!! Have put it through heavy grit and grime for 4 years now and it still runs like a champion.

  • @Mike_Rundle
    @Mike_Rundle Před rokem +6

    This was a review I had suggested and it definitely didn’t disappoint. I’ve been extremely happy with every tool I’ve purchased based on your reviews. My money well spent and I appreciate it. I recommend you to all my friends and people I talk to about tools, etc. Keep it up!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thanks, will do! Thanks for suggesting this video idea!

  • @sixroldan6742
    @sixroldan6742 Před rokem +143

    In my experience, the 2 things that break the most in the shop are snap ring pliers and air compressors. Seeing either of those tested would be awesome. Thanks for your videos!

  • @possiblymeish
    @possiblymeish Před rokem +54

    I would love to see more of the German Metabo tools included. I run original metabo for all my cordless tools and they’re Festool quality at red/yellow price.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +4

      Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @kiyoshim9593
      @kiyoshim9593 Před rokem +6

      German metabos, also Japanese Makitas. But you wont find Japanese Ryobi because Ryobi and milwakee are now the same Chinese Company.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn Před rokem +4

      Also Bosch is missing

    • @Jonathan-kv5kt
      @Jonathan-kv5kt Před rokem +2

      @@kiyoshim9593 German metabos still exist we run them at work. You have to search around the metabohtp brand now tho.

    • @mohammedisaa9952
      @mohammedisaa9952 Před rokem

      I find that Bosch are a good brand..... used them most of my life and not had any rwgrets from them...... my washing machine is also a Bosch, not needed any parts in over 10 years and baught second hand 🙂

  • @matthiasplus6691
    @matthiasplus6691 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for taking the time to do the unit conversions in all of your great videos!

  • @torontocitizen6802
    @torontocitizen6802 Před rokem +15

    I truly appreciate all the work that goes into these videos and the lengths you go to to be as data driven as possible. I do also love that you give your more subjective opinion.

  • @jspeed99
    @jspeed99 Před rokem +27

    I've had a Makita for about 10 years and works great for everything I've used it on. Keep up the good work.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 Před rokem +1

      Yep, Makita is number one if you do actual work. For once a year home use the cheapest one is fine tho.

    • @dexterallen1282
      @dexterallen1282 Před rokem

      I have an 8in makita thats 20 years old still works great.

    • @davidbreitwieser3591
      @davidbreitwieser3591 Před rokem +1

      Makita are the Toyota of tools, they just don’t wanna die, especially the older ones

  • @troydaigle1260
    @troydaigle1260 Před rokem

    I always enjoy watching your comparison tests. You do a great job. Thanks

  • @Jabberwok28
    @Jabberwok28 Před rokem +12

    I am a Bosch guy and I have a 5” German-made grinder and a 4 1/2” X-Lock, which is also darn good and is great for toolless wheel change.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem

      I don't use tools to change attachments on angle grinders unless I've managed to burn a disc down to nothing. If there's still diameter there it's plenty to twist off with. But I will put a glove on a wire wheel. Those wires can stick right in me.

  • @Canuckrz
    @Canuckrz Před rokem +205

    There is a reason why pretty much every contractor I've worked for in industrial metal working uses Makita grinders. Specifically its almost always the GA6020Y with SJS and electric brake. They work great and just wont die even with a 200lb gorilla leaning on them 12 hours a day.

    • @artsmith103
      @artsmith103 Před rokem +17

      Those folks need the best. DIY cutting and grinding, Harbor Freight has been great for me.

    • @SnappyWasHere
      @SnappyWasHere Před rokem +12

      Plus they are so much smoother. The high frequency vibrations on some just make them unusable.

    • @em4703
      @em4703 Před rokem +26

      @@artsmith103 Buy once cry once. But yea in the end if you don't use it at least 50 hours a year, it's not worth it. If you do, it's worth the money. Not for the speed of cut or durability, but lower vibration. High vibration rating tools are the worst if you use them more than 30 minutes sessions. That's when you start hating the cheap stuff.

    • @itsm3th3b33
      @itsm3th3b33 Před rokem +6

      If you're pro and make a living out of the tool, sure. But if you're a DIY and don't expect to use the tool more than once (for your project) or twice (to lend it to your neighbor), you can't beat the HF at $15. LOL
      If it was cordless, one should consider which battery system one wants to commit money into. For corded... if you want a bit more reliability, the Porter-Cable is a no brainer.

    • @LegitMoose
      @LegitMoose Před rokem +1

      How about metabo and walter?

  • @robw2379
    @robw2379 Před rokem +8

    Video idea: adjustable parallel-jaw pliers, sometimes called plier-wrench. I believe knipex, klein, craftsman and icon (harbor freight) offer 10" pliers in this category.
    Thanks for all the great reviews!

  • @deniskalugin7984
    @deniskalugin7984 Před rokem +3

    Another great and extremely useful video. I really appreciate you conduct so various and informative tests, so everyone can make own conclusion about what brand is worth to be purchased. Great job!

  • @cameroncashatt692
    @cameroncashatt692 Před rokem +4

    between you and TTC I know exactly what to buy. I cant thank you enough. I've been watching your videos for years. You have saved me from making some poor choices.

  • @czarnohumorasty
    @czarnohumorasty Před rokem +13

    Thanks a lot for more corded reviews! My budget does not really allow me to get good battery tools and cords aren't a big problem for me, so it's nice to see something like this! I hope more will come. Shame not all brands are available here, but at least I can see the big ones being compared.

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 Před rokem +1

      Cordless is good but a grinder will eat batteries faster than you can charge them.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      You are welcome!

    • @jeffreyhurtgen6003
      @jeffreyhurtgen6003 Před rokem +1

      @@Rudy97literally had a job that revolves around using a cordless grinder with a cutting wheel. I had something like 7 batteries. I’d go through 2 while 1 was charging.

  • @jasoncook5307
    @jasoncook5307 Před rokem

    Time and again this channel has determined what tool I purchased to last and do the best job possible, Thanks PF!

  • @guloguloguy
    @guloguloguy Před 10 měsíci +1

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I'M ABSOLUTELY IMPRESSED BY ALL OF YOUR THOROUGH TESTS, AND COMPARISONS!!!!!!
    YOU, ARE THE ABSOLUTE GOLD STANDARD OF PRODUCT TESTING, AND REVIEWS!!!!
    THANK YOU, VERY, VERY, VERY , MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @KyleClements
    @KyleClements Před rokem +1

    Thank you for testing for tool vibration.
    As I'm getting older, I'm finding my fingers less able to deal with the vibrations of power tools, so this information is something I'm always looking for.

  • @axion8788
    @axion8788 Před rokem +93

    When choosing Harbor Freight tools it might be helpful to add some of their other "tiers". In this case, the Bauer angle grinderis advertised to be $49 with an 8 Amp motor, 11,500 RPMs and a paddle switch.

    • @PeteHemdem
      @PeteHemdem Před rokem +3

      Are there really any "better" grade tools at Harbor Fright (intentional misspelling)? Or just less worse?
      I've had several bad experiences with power tools there. Some hand tools seem OK, I found that some of them are made in India rather than Chy-na.

    • @-PORK-CHOP-
      @-PORK-CHOP- Před rokem

      Bauer is rubbish, with rubbish customer service, even worse than anything from HF

    • @stabbinfatties9489
      @stabbinfatties9489 Před rokem +10

      ​@PeteHemdem harbor freight has some pretty good generators and welders for the price.

    • @The3chordwonder
      @The3chordwonder Před rokem +11

      I would be Interested in the Bauer as well (I have both the bauer and the warrier). The bauer definitely has more power and is heavier. I've found harbor freight grinders to be up to the task, so long as you don't really lean into them. Seems like their gearboxes sound like gravel in a garbage disposal though. I usually take the gearbox cover off and replace the craptacular grease with high temp wheel bearing grease. Seems to help a little bit.

    • @todd5082
      @todd5082 Před rokem +7

      I was wondering the same thing about the Bauer and Hercules line.

  • @radarecho57
    @radarecho57 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great video. I never would have guessed that the Rigid would be so good. I have five of the Warriors at $10 each (coupons). three Bauers at $20 each (coupon), one Ryobi at about $50. That's nine grinders for about $160. I have them hanging up with a different disk in each one, super convenient and efficient to work with, I figure each one get's a portion of the work so they should last a long time.

  • @PugALug70
    @PugALug70 Před rokem

    Wow...your methods for testing are an inspiration. Well done!

  • @Damndru
    @Damndru Před rokem +13

    I have a corded DeWalt with a paddle switch (DWE402). Has a lot of torque starting up and seems to take forever to stop but it is a workhorse. I would love to see how it compares to the DeWalt you tested. Great video as always, Todd! I trust your test results and always consult the ProjectFarm channel before buying anything from a big box store.

  • @justinmartin8887
    @justinmartin8887 Před rokem +36

    My experience working in various metal shops over the years has concluded that metabo, with all the different options they have available, is the go to grinder for industrial metal working

    • @G.Davis67
      @G.Davis67 Před rokem +9

      Yeah I love my metabo. We’ve tried Milwaukee but they didn’t last and the switch was uncomfortable. Dewalt was ok but my metabo is more comfortable. I burn up about a grinder a year. I’m a fitter for heavy weldments.

    • @allinaday3526
      @allinaday3526 Před rokem +3

      ​@@G.Davis67 i work in a welding shop myself, and I'd say the metabo grinder we have is my favorite

    • @colinjohnson5515
      @colinjohnson5515 Před rokem +8

      Do you feel like Metabo HPT is diluting the brand? Online searches return both brands and I feel like they made a mistake by giving the prosumer Hitachi brand the same name as the professional Metabo brand

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the feedback.

    • @LitheInLitotes
      @LitheInLitotes Před rokem +3

      Justin, you are flipping WRONG. Metabo did not TEST nearly as well and those are FACTS. Not stupid anecdotes

  • @Four_Words_And_Much_More

    Another worthwhile piece of information. The 4.5 inch angle grinder is one of the most useful pieces of shop equipment. Getting a good one makes it even better. Have a good tool is worth a lot to a craftsman.

  • @davemilster
    @davemilster Před rokem +7

    Todd, PF testing is awesome. Your methods are fabulous and real life conditions.
    I have a Bosch angle grinder and was surprised it wasn’t included being a “name brand”. Why was it not included?
    Again thank you for all you do!

  • @tjf1531
    @tjf1531 Před rokem +31

    Great video, thank you. I have 8 of the harbor freight warrior grinder, each set up for specific purposes and all are still going strong. Very happy with their performance to date.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +4

      Great feedback on the Warrior!

    • @gus473
      @gus473 Před rokem +8

      That's the way to go! Those "disposable" grinders definitely have their place! 😎✌️

    • @LitheInLitotes
      @LitheInLitotes Před rokem

      Junk

    • @LitheInLitotes
      @LitheInLitotes Před rokem +1

      It literally got the worst score. Did you even watch?

    • @gmansplit
      @gmansplit Před rokem +9

      @@LitheInLitotes Yes, but it's also $15

  • @JohnDaker_singer
    @JohnDaker_singer Před rokem +5

    Glad to see you're including Ridgid in this test. They are great tools for the price and worthy of inclusion in your lineup.

  • @billgraham5609
    @billgraham5609 Před rokem +1

    Oh great now I’m going to have to go look at my old Ryobi and think about this when I cut some steel plates this weekend. Love the channel!

  • @pattayperformance
    @pattayperformance Před rokem +8

    This is perfect! I use the HF ones I go through one of them a year. This year I’m on my 3rd and now considering a better brand. Was going to go with Milwaukee by nature but it’s seems that makita take the cake!
    Appreciate these as always

  • @nobuckle40
    @nobuckle40 Před rokem +7

    For as often as I use an angle grinder, maybe several times a year at this point, I bought a HF Drill Master. It's holding up pretty well. Thanks for the showdown.

    • @jefftucker9225
      @jefftucker9225 Před rokem +1

      I don't use my angel grinder much either, but it's nice to have one when needed, I also went cheaper and bought a $50 Bosch

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      You are welcome!

  • @eugenel4394
    @eugenel4394 Před rokem +27

    Great comparison as always. I really enjoy your tool tests, those are fun and exciting. My suggestion for a video would stem from your other videos on chainsaws. You tested a variety, from gas to battery operated chainsaws. As someone that uses a chainsaw on my property, I realized that sometimes good quality protective gear costs far more than chainsaw on its own. Some good topics would be to compare different brands of chainsaw chaps, as well as mask/helmet/headphones combinations. You have a variety of inexpensive online options, all the way up to Husqvarna and Stihl options. Then you have Pfanner Protos that can get up to $300 for head protection. I think it will also be a great educational moment for how much damage a chainsaw can make when it hits a test piece and how that compares with the gear. Appreciate all you do, Todd!

  • @morname8731
    @morname8731 Před 11 měsíci

    this is the best review and comparision i have ever seen on youtube about any subject. well done!

  • @beerdrinker6452
    @beerdrinker6452 Před rokem

    Great video. I am glad to see corded tool reviews. Thank you. A factor to me is the length of the tools cord. I hate it when manufactures cheap out on provided cord.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @dittmerg
    @dittmerg Před rokem +6

    I just bought the Dewalt last weekend and the deciding factor was how it felt in my hand. I do a lot of one handed cutting and the others were too big to get a good single handed grip. As always, a great video. Thanks once again

    • @gabydewilde
      @gabydewilde Před rokem +1

      they are terrifying!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 Před rokem

      Makita handles are rly good for one handed use, but for safety please use both hands. That tool has more power than you can hold.

  • @ceemch
    @ceemch Před rokem +8

    I suggested this videos a while back and it was well worth the wait! Having used most of the mainstream grinders in this video, I find myself totally agreeing with your findings, it reassuring to see how good your tests are at simulating the real world too! Bosch make a nice grinder too, less powerful than the Makita, but smaller and lighter, good for tight spaces and reaching out.

  • @RatingARKReviews
    @RatingARKReviews Před rokem +14

    Who knew angle grinders could be so intense? 😅 I'm loving the comparisons between these different brands. The Makita's impressive speed definitely caught my attention! Has anyone tried other brands not mentioned here? Let's keep the discussion going! 💪

  • @markc7551
    @markc7551 Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent review! You continue to provide very innovative and informative tool reviews with exceptional editing and efficient content. Would like to have seen a longevity test under load. Have experienced very short run time life spans with the Harbor Freight models, similar to what you experienced with the Ryobi. Thank you for all you do. Your efforts and videos are truly appreciated!

  • @ryancasey4807
    @ryancasey4807 Před rokem +45

    Really surprised to not see Bosch, we need to see another round including more metabo, and Makita models, as well as Bosch. Bosch has long been the standing king of grinders up there with hilti, matabo and Makita

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thank you for sharing!

    • @willtrippe8982
      @willtrippe8982 Před rokem +1

      @@ProjectFarm I agree, disappointed to not see bosch's 10A offering

    • @adude7050
      @adude7050 Před rokem +1

      I appreciate all the effort put forth nut I would have to agree about being surprised over not having a Bosch. I own A lot of these brands this tends to be for me a "you get what you pay or tool".

    • @elliotkane4443
      @elliotkane4443 Před rokem +1

      Bosch and Makita sell lots of cheap, unimpressive grinders. Hilti focuses on rotary hammers for general contractors, their grinders are terrible.
      In my opinion professional metal fabrication companies use grinders the most, some guys have expensive Metabo & Fein grinders which have a lot of features.

    • @Dani-it5sy
      @Dani-it5sy Před rokem +2

      Metabo used to be good 10 years ago but since then it's been going down hill with Metabo. Some of their stuff is really low budget rubbish.

  • @Supreme5899
    @Supreme5899 Před rokem +52

    Oil filters, automatic transmission fluid, and paper plates too would be interesting to see. Keep the awesome videos coming!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +7

      Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @cameronjenkins6748
      @cameronjenkins6748 Před rokem +5

      Oh yeah, the ATF one definitely should be done!

    • @Longplay_Games
      @Longplay_Games Před rokem +7

      Paper plates, what a genius idea. That would be interesting.

    • @SE45CX
      @SE45CX Před rokem

      Project farm is a great channel even when he decides he couldn't make a test setup to evaluate the performance of ATF accurately!

    • @iamgriff
      @iamgriff Před rokem

      I would like to add: transmission fluid anti slip additives test. Also, the Bruce Jenner fluid test is a great idea!

  • @luke2986
    @luke2986 Před rokem +3

    Hey PF, great comparison as always! I have a video suggestion. I think a comparison of engine degreasers would be beneficial to many people. I know I’m always wrenching on something that’s greasy or grimy and brake clean does an ok job but it’s pretty harsh. I know there are specialty products from CRC, Gunk, etc. especially marketed for this and some products that may not be marketed for this that might do a better job. Thank you for your dedication and hard work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

  • @tonyjackson4099
    @tonyjackson4099 Před rokem +1

    Excellent comprehensive test as usual!
    The only tests that really matter, at least for me, are the cutoff and grinding discs tests.
    Also, although there are definitely exceptions, this test confirms the old adage that "you get what you pay for."

  • @texasbtc
    @texasbtc Před rokem

    Thank you for a corded review. I'm in the market for an angle grinder soon so this was perfect timing as I want a corded grinder.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Glad it was perfect timing! You are welcome!

  • @frattman
    @frattman Před rokem +7

    Another great test - I've been using Makita grinders (on my second one over 20 years) for tilework mostly. I agree that they perform wonderfully except for the trigger design - the three iterations I have tried (two owned personally) over the years have gotten slowly worse on trigger design and they feel a bit chintzier but they are still really good tools, holding up to a fair amount of daily abuse over the years.

    • @fuckingpippaman
      @fuckingpippaman Před rokem

      yeah. i think its a safety feature. My old bosch har a really positive switch, but its really easy to switch on inadvertently. Still makita FTW

  • @fredinit
    @fredinit Před rokem +5

    As always, another great review! I missed seeing Bosch in the lineup. Had one that survived several floods and heavy farm use before giving up the ghost after about 15 years. Next time, see about adding the RPM meter to the cut-off test. No-load versus load.

    • @dusanmilojevic3017
      @dusanmilojevic3017 Před rokem

      Hilti is Bosch.

    • @MatthRrrr
      @MatthRrrr Před rokem

      @@dusanmilojevic3017 It's like saying Ryobi is Milwaukee.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem

      @@MatthRrrr Ryobi and Milwaukee are both made by TTI. TTI also makes Hart and Rigid tools too. Although oddly TTI won't cop to making Rigid on their website. Not sure what's going on there.

  • @Benjamin_Reese
    @Benjamin_Reese Před rokem +1

    Keep it up Project Farm!! I love your review more than any other reviewer on CZcams!

  • @RHort-ym7ee
    @RHort-ym7ee Před rokem +3

    Great video Todd! Hoping you start including the Hercules brand from Harbor Freight to show off the high end of the discount power tool spectrum (Harbor Freight goes Warrior/Chicago Electric->Bauer->Hercules) I've been very pleased with them for their cost to performance ratio. Their new brushless line has a 5 year warranty on the tool and 3 year warranty on the batteries!

  • @cyphre
    @cyphre Před rokem +3

    Really interesting tests! Now I hope to see this 'startup torque test' for other tools in the future. It's definitely a good comfort metric to compare.

  • @rydplrs71
    @rydplrs71 Před rokem +4

    The slowmo on the rigid was classic.👍
    I have a 11a dewalt with paddle switch for grinding if I don’t want to use an old heavy 7”, and 3 hitachi 7a for cutting, sanding and wire brushing. At $30 each on close out it was worth it not to always be changing blades.

  • @zoltanbuti7143
    @zoltanbuti7143 Před rokem

    Greetings Sir! I was looking for this test and i am glad that you do theese videos! Keep on with it !
    I bought i guess the same Makita (Makita 9565CVR , 230V 1400W type) about 3 months ago and almost regret it but this video tells me that i did not make a bad descison after all! The switch is really not the best part and i think mine has some problem with the gearbox but it has POWER indeed!
    Thank you again for the videos! Best wishes form hungary! 😃

  • @a.joegevara3519
    @a.joegevara3519 Před rokem

    We have a Makita at work, I have a variety at home but use my Metabo the most with 6" cutting discs followed by DeWalt with either flap discs & grinding stones, my Milwaukee not so much. I use a 7" Hitachi for big grinding jobs (I used it for years with a diamond blade to cut control joints in concrete around swimming pools, it's a beast!)
    Great video, thanks!

  • @Matthewcostellocod
    @Matthewcostellocod Před rokem +3

    Something I think would be really interesting next time your getting an oil analysis done would be to not shake the container first and get a sample to see how much/ what fell out of suspension in the oil
    As always love the content!!!

  • @bartfoster1311
    @bartfoster1311 Před rokem +7

    Awesome review, I knew the Makita was a pretty amazing grinder and the backs that up. That being said, if you are in a pinch or want a disposable one for someone that Warrior sounds like a deal too!

  • @keithsadler5260
    @keithsadler5260 Před rokem

    Another great video. I don’t really use a grinder very often but if that changes I now know which one to buy. Keep them tests coming.

  • @DemonOfFury
    @DemonOfFury Před 2 měsíci

    Project farm for the W, per usual. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar! Everytime I’m looking to get something I check your channel for content on said something! Keep it up 👍🏻

  • @MOTO809
    @MOTO809 Před rokem +4

    Great tests! I've always owned DeWalt power tools, both privately and professionally. In my experience they just take a beating and keep going. The thing I require on an angle grinder is a lock on switch. The paddle switches are just too inconvenient in 90% of the ways I need to use a grinder.

  • @chrishunt1939
    @chrishunt1939 Před rokem +10

    Love the video! If you like the rat-tail style of the Ryobi, Makita makes most of their different power levels in a rat-tail version. It's personally my favorite style. Gives you more leverage over the tool if it kicks.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK Před rokem

      I don't get locking triggers for electric tools. You drop one, and you have a big problem at your feet.

    • @aftertheelectrike1847
      @aftertheelectrike1847 Před rokem +1

      ​@@CONEHEADDK especially grinders like this, they can damage stuff or possibly hurt someone very badly

    • @CONEHEADDK
      @CONEHEADDK Před rokem

      @@aftertheelectrike1847 Exactly. My, in many other ways veeery, ace whole dad did some things right, and I was allowed to use all his tools and machines (except the stationary round saw), from I was 5. Sure - I cut my fingers deeep with his razor sharp carving knives and got hurt other ways, but kids heal fast. So I have also been in close contact with angle grinders a couple of times, and they don't stop for anything human.. :D But the wound didn't bleed much, bcz of the heat, I guess.. I remember as a kid, first time I used an angle grinder, where the trigger could be locked, and even as an "invinceble 12 year old", I was shocked over, anyone making something rhat dangerous.. Sue them...

  • @JonL1986
    @JonL1986 Před rokem +1

    love the videos and appreciate all you do! Would love to see something on mid range cost wood mulchers that do branches in 1-2inch diameter!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @jamesrussell2936
    @jamesrussell2936 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm building an off-road buggy and I've been using the Warrior extensively for over 2 years, and it still works great.

  • @the1stDDD
    @the1stDDD Před rokem +66

    Would love to see how Bosch angle grinders go in this comparison! I bought one simply for the X-Lock fast wheel change (and love it).

    • @lopincol
      @lopincol Před rokem

      Is it that good? I'm not ready to pay extra for every wheel I need to buy

    • @InchFab
      @InchFab Před rokem +4

      @@lopincol yeah this isn't a "feature" I'm interested in either.

    • @willtrippe8982
      @willtrippe8982 Před rokem +5

      i've been in a professional metal finishing industry for over 16 years and bosch has been the best brand I've seen so far.

    • @KeksimusMaximus
      @KeksimusMaximus Před rokem +2

      Bosch tools are for occasional home use only. If you're okay with it dying at any moment, you can buy it. Don't get me wrong, it's fine and all. But if you want something better, your choice is Metabo and Hilti (and maybe Makita too, but they're too inconsistent, their cheaper tools are pretty sad, and at higher prices you can have Hilti).

    • @willtrippe8982
      @willtrippe8982 Před rokem +6

      @@KeksimusMaximus i've used a bosch in a professional business for almost ten years. grinding, cutting, sanding grit 36-120, aggressive wire brush, both mild and S.S.

  • @antbymcnair4297
    @antbymcnair4297 Před rokem +43

    I've asked for this test and happy to see it! Thanks. One thing is missing though. If you grind or cut for longer periods of time the tool can get pretty hot to hold. I would be nice to see the tool temp after the thicker blade cutting through the rebar. Great test still.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +11

      Thanks! Thanks for the constructive feedback.

    • @GunnysWrenches
      @GunnysWrenches Před rokem

      Good point, and heat really comes into play when you’re at the end of a grinding disc and need to swap it out 👍

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 Před rokem +1

    Excellent review. Isn’t it amazing that all of these tools function reasonably well, and most people can afford one.
    And for 60$ you get a tool that will probably last and work well for home use.
    I’m old enough to remember when having an angle grinder was a luxury, today every DIYer has one.
    I think if a person is spending a large number of hours grinding, that’s when ergonomics plays a large role. If your hands are fatigued after a short time, it doesn’t matter how well the tool is performing.
    Thanks for sharing that review. I’ve started to keep multiple, so that I don’t have to change wheels as often. The lower cost makes it affordable. Always enjoy your testing and 15:06 analysis!

  • @ilickspam
    @ilickspam Před rokem

    thank you for all of your video reviews on tools. they're so helpful

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome! Glad to hear!

  • @GaryGueths
    @GaryGueths Před rokem +40

    My 30 year old Makita still works almost as good as the one you tested, great tool. Thanks for the comparisons!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +2

      Nice! You are welcome!

    • @C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd
      @C1Ksdafafdsa980ufsd Před rokem +1

      Makita was a good brand. It is a little frustrating that at least the older ones weren't standardized to a 5/8" grinding wheel nut, and are largely unsupported today.

    • @charleshettrick2408
      @charleshettrick2408 Před rokem +1

      Ditto. My 30 year old Makita is only used on steel. Still going strong.

    • @DiscoFang
      @DiscoFang Před rokem

      Their switches have always been the same awful and obstinate design though, including the cordless. That finally changed with the brushless 18V which is a night and day improvement.

    • @bsquadrider
      @bsquadrider Před rokem

      I wish they were built the same way they were 30 years ago. I've personally burned up 4 makitas in my 12 years of welding.

  • @ColdRiverAutowire
    @ColdRiverAutowire Před rokem +11

    I’ve used all kinds over the years, the Makita corded is the best I’ve owned, hands down, besides the iffy slide switch. Cool to see it wasn’t all in my head. Thanks for a great comparison Todd!

    • @scumbaggo
      @scumbaggo Před rokem +2

      Yeah totally agree. Makita has been my goto for everything for many years.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD Před rokem

      @@scumbaggo Lookout for the newly "Made in China" Makitas. It it aint made in J-A-PAN, it aint worth the extra money.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      You are welcome!

  • @honiswagner7674
    @honiswagner7674 Před rokem +2

    One of the thing I have used my grinder for is cutting hardie or even tile and rock. The dust is a killer on the slide button and prefer the paddle switch. Some of the designs pull in more dust than others reducing the life of the motor.

  • @sunnindawg
    @sunnindawg Před rokem

    Been looking for a vid like this for years. Excellent. Buying Porter Cable for my use case.

  • @kyleRS87
    @kyleRS87 Před rokem +3

    I bought that Warrior for a project and it did the job. It was definitely worth the money for the occasional lighter duty use.

    • @kcgunesq
      @kcgunesq Před rokem

      If you aren't making money from it daily or at least weekly, and you just need it to work - the price is stupidly reasonable considering that a pack of wheels could easily cost more.

    • @LitheInLitotes
      @LitheInLitotes Před rokem

      Junk

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @ikasriel
    @ikasriel Před rokem +3

    Love your reviews. I know you can't test every single brand out there. However in this one, using Warrior brand from HF was doing HF a disservice. They have a much better Hercules brand 11amp grinder available for $70, and it would be interesting to see how it would stack up against the big boys.

    • @fiatman71
      @fiatman71 Před rokem

      I agree. I have an older Chicago Electric one and it's actually a great tool.

  • @ForsakenPixel
    @ForsakenPixel Před rokem +1

    I'm glad this video was made as my Metabo angle grinder just recently stopped working. Based on your review I think I'll go with the Rigid with the added lifetime warranty. Cheers!

  • @liesejunh
    @liesejunh Před rokem +1

    The only grinders I have are battery powered but my last 2 projects taught me that nothing can replace a corded angle grinder. It fits in a much tighter spaces and they weigh a lot less so they are easier to free hand.

  • @carsongreen7287
    @carsongreen7287 Před rokem +8

    Great video. All the malita grinders I’ve used have been very pleasant. I would like a video on pellet gun pellets. Things like accuracy, how much it deforms when it hits something, how similar the pellets are to themselves, things like that. Thanks!

    • @chrishyde7798
      @chrishyde7798 Před rokem +3

      Maybe a best pellet gun video is a good idea too.

    • @aisforannihilation1662
      @aisforannihilation1662 Před rokem

      ​@@chrishyde7798 yes. My dad who is older wants a better 1 easier to see (eyesight is going) without a difficult to cock back like most options we see.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @aisforannihilation1662
      @aisforannihilation1662 Před rokem +2

      @@ProjectFarm that would b much appreciated. Pellet or bb gun . Always the challenge of CO2 (some take 2, some use big 1's which can add up) also so it should be an interesting test for cost wise consumers especially if just using for pests & it sits around between uses. Thx!

    • @jerryw6577
      @jerryw6577 Před rokem

      A problem is that some pellet guns shoot better with one brand over another, just like some rifles shoot better with different brands of ammo, different weight of bullet, etc.

  • @lioneltheturtle5370
    @lioneltheturtle5370 Před rokem +7

    Personally I just use the warrior for wire wheels just cause I’m too lazy to have to keep switching wheels, works great!

  • @ahumblebulbasaur3591
    @ahumblebulbasaur3591 Před rokem

    Thank you for the video, I ended up getting the Harbor Freight for $15 because it’s a tool I need for a one time job.
    I’ll probably upgrade in the future but for now it’s doing exactly what it needs to do.

  • @alexandergrindley7099

    Thank you. Your videos are awesome, and your channel is in my top 3 favorites ( the other 2 are not product review). I don't believe anyone else is as thorough as you are in testing products.
    I am a DIYer, handling about 98% of my home and auto repairs myself. I have been interested in buying a laser level for some home projects for a couple of years and would appreciate it if you could do a review on a few models.
    Thank you very much.
    Project Farm Fan,
    Alexander

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @Hoster987
    @Hoster987 Před rokem +8

    Nice and I actually bought the Harbor Freight one for sharpening lawnmower blades. However, used it well for cutting one of the rusted nuts / bolts of stabilizer links (which took awhile as you tested). Even if it breaks, definitely worth it as I do not expect to use it more than once a year at best🙂

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

    • @a-human-interface4991
      @a-human-interface4991 Před rokem

      I've had two Chicago electrics for almost a decade now and one of them just died about 3 months ago when I started working on a trailer restoration project that involved a lot of heavy grinding. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment for a $20 grinder.

    • @silverdragonden872
      @silverdragonden872 Před 11 měsíci

      If your like me I only use an angle grinder once or twice a year the warrior is fine.

  • @Kevin-zo6nz
    @Kevin-zo6nz Před rokem +4

    Love my Bosch, forget how much it costs but its much smaller compared to others Ive had and has lasted me several years of occasional use

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem +1

      Great feedback on the Bosch. Thank you

    • @jacoblf
      @jacoblf Před rokem

      Bosch was the (imo) only mfg missing from the lineup.

    • @user-zu2bw7ig5v
      @user-zu2bw7ig5v Před rokem

      I use a Bosch slim everyday trimming cow hooves and love them. So easy to run 1 handed. Although they get abused and I usually burn through 1 a month they're my go to

  • @jzrgrmm
    @jzrgrmm Před rokem

    This is the only channel I like the video beforehand, also the only channel I watch in normal (1x) speed, and I think that says a lot. What a joy, please never change.
    Ps. I always miss Bosch on your videos, are they a less common in North America? Thanks.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks so much! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @timsharpe3498
    @timsharpe3498 Před rokem

    Thanks for another great test. I own all different brands of power tools and some are definitely better than others. I even have a couple of old Harbor Freight tools that still haven’t let the smoke out yet. My favorite ones are Metabo. I think they are excellent for the price.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @ron827
    @ron827 Před rokem +4

    Great comparisons as usual. I believe Ridgid also has a lifetime warranty. The Horrible Freight grinder appears to be a disposable tool as are much of their line.

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 Před rokem

      A cheap grinder is better than nothing. Good enough for a home owner.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem

      Harbor Freight power tools are junk. With rare exceptions. I can think of three I've had which I thought were OK. I've had a lot more than 3 of them. More like dozens. Well, 4 now that I'm thinking about it. Their multitool I have of theirs isn't bad. Definitely not a pro tool though. The blade change on it sucks.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thanks!

  • @kyleduda
    @kyleduda Před rokem +6

    I'd love to see a review of different carpet stain removers. Keep up the good work 👍

    • @ChuckThree
      @ChuckThree Před rokem

      The Vacuum Wars channel got you covered

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Před rokem

      Thank you for the video idea!

  • @scottbionicnerf8727
    @scottbionicnerf8727 Před rokem

    I plan to use a corded angle grinder for wood carving. I've been waiting for this video. It's great to be able to make an informed choice.

  • @HoshinoMirai
    @HoshinoMirai Před rokem

    Just want to say I really appreciate all the effort on this channel, it's truly amazing and refreshing to see things getting tested to the degree that's demonstrated here, and from times to times I really wish we had someone who would do the same to all the bicycle parts out there to verify the claims of those manufacturers.
    Anyway, as a suggestion, maybe soldering irons/stations?

  • @makingstuff242
    @makingstuff242 Před rokem +2

    you can always count on that makita pricing, and sometimes their performance. That ridgid though is good value.