Nuclear Thermal Rockets in Sci-Fi Spacecraft

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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  Před 17 dny +21

    #TheSojourn Season Two, Volume One - OUT NOW!
    www.thesojournaudiodrama.com/s02v01

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Před 17 dny

      Question: let's say you get an approval to make Voyager 2.0 with modern tech and mass budget of 5k tons(spread over modules of 200 ton max and yes, you need to include fuel into those 5k), what would it look like? Acceleration with NTER, sustained thrust with ions? What would be the equipment and tasks given to it? Let's say that 12 of them would be launched in 3D sphere pattern in all directions using gravity maneuvers around the Sun after they accelerate to a certain point and that a decade later a second set would be launched.

    • @ericmadsen7470
      @ericmadsen7470 Před 17 dny

      Thanks for the Nuclear science lesson.

    • @silverjohn6037
      @silverjohn6037 Před 17 dny

      Has the channel ever done a video on the Aldrin Cycler concept?

    • @DrBunnyMedicinal
      @DrBunnyMedicinal Před 17 dny

      The two best bits: "spicy mode" and the X Files epilogue. 😆👏

    • @A.Hanson
      @A.Hanson Před 8 dny

      I wish it were possible to actually buy Sojourn. I would love to have it on CD but I'm not spending real money to download something off the internet.

  • @warmachine5835
    @warmachine5835 Před 17 dny +218

    11:45 Jeb is just Built Different.

    • @quentinking4351
      @quentinking4351 Před 17 dny +26

      Literally, since he (and Val) are the only Kerbals with "Badass" checked as true.

    • @electricminecrafter
      @electricminecrafter Před 17 dny +14

      bro can survive 20,000 kelvin exaust but not a 10^2 meter fall

    • @MrGhjkl63
      @MrGhjkl63 Před 17 dny +8

      He vibin

    • @Reoh0z
      @Reoh0z Před 17 dny +7

      Jeb survived a 74km space walk to reach the rescue vehicle.
      The rescue vehicle burned up on re-entry killing all aboard.
      I should have tried the 11km space walk but I thought I had enough fuel to do a better job. I did not, on either account.

  • @ashero2092
    @ashero2092 Před 17 dny +243

    All my hundreds of hours playing Terra Invicta and staring at Drive charts paid off, because I've recognized every drive/fission type reactor.

    • @chemplay866
      @chemplay866 Před 17 dny +23

      Do you prefer the good guys, the genocide guys, the nerds, the wallace breen wannabe, the conspiracy theorist pro-alien lady, the coward that wants to leave, or the capitalists?

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Před 17 dny +8

      The amount of sadness when the tech rolls end up not giving you either of final drives...

    • @hunterpdx7061
      @hunterpdx7061 Před 17 dny +1

      That's what I noticed too!

    • @sonwig5186
      @sonwig5186 Před 17 dny +9

      Should I give Terra Invicta another shot? The spaceship kind of stuff looks great but the grand strategy sucks so bad, I just wish I was playing a country rather than an organisation with no real power and not much agency.

    • @ASlickNamedPimpback
      @ASlickNamedPimpback Před 17 dny

      @@sonwig5186 if youve got the time to spare...

  • @kludgedude
    @kludgedude Před 17 dny +312

    Flying steam kettle

    • @johnnydarling8021
      @johnnydarling8021 Před 17 dny +14

      Henya the Space Poilet

    • @granienasniadanie8322
      @granienasniadanie8322 Před 17 dny +34

      You really think only, because your in space means you can escape the steam engine?

    • @aland7236
      @aland7236 Před 17 dny +20

      Honestly dihydrogen monoxide must be the most versatile compound in the universe. That or humanity just seems to find a way to shoehorn it into the plan.

    • @Talon19
      @Talon19 Před 17 dny +8

      It always comes back to steam!

    • @jon9021
      @jon9021 Před 16 dny

      Let’s hope it doesn’t whistle!

  • @Croz89
    @Croz89 Před 17 dny +496

    I have a feeling "decommissioning" is probably going to involve dumping the whole reactor and engine assembly in a graveyard orbit and forgetting about it.

    • @raverdeath100
      @raverdeath100 Před 17 dny +76

      Jupiter's radiation belts would be a good place.

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Před 17 dny +60

      @@raverdeath100 May as well just lob it into the planet itself if you have the delta v to spare.

    • @leon-ks9yn
      @leon-ks9yn Před 17 dny +10

      it would be cool to see what happens if we throw it to the sun

    • @Croz89
      @Croz89 Před 17 dny +57

      @@leon-ks9yn Pretty much nothing.

    • @nunyabizniss4087
      @nunyabizniss4087 Před 17 dny +8

      I'd drop it in the destination's star after I arrived.

  • @knickohr01
    @knickohr01 Před 17 dny +53

    I just love how many KSP clips there are in this video

    • @MrQuantumInc
      @MrQuantumInc Před 17 dny +2

      The NTR is the most popular rocket as it has double the efficiency but also decent thrust. The game illustrates its advantages pretty well.

  • @jimmymcgoochie5363
    @jimmymcgoochie5363 Před 17 dny +93

    Worth mentioning: liquid hydrogen also has the twin benefits of being a) really cold (to cool the really hot rocket engine) and b) a nuclear moderator to boost the reaction rate in the reactor. More hydrogen flow = more reaction and also more cooling, which balances out to make it nice and throttleable with almost no changes to the reactor settings so more hydrogen in = more thrust out.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Před 17 dny +1

      Wut.
      But..... you literally just said....
      Okay, so what happens when you want to decrease engine thrust?
      You decrease the hydrogen.
      This decreases the cooling.
      On an engine that's still Hella hot.
      Doesn't this Idea simply lead to an engine that can only ever go harder or stay the same, but can never be turned off?? 👀

    • @man-from-2058
      @man-from-2058 Před 17 dny +7

      ​​@@MrNicoJacthe hydrogen also acts as a moderater which increases the rate of fissions, so decreasing the hydrogen along with inserting control rods would shutdown the reactor. Water would be an even better moderater than hydrogen.

    • @hlynkacg9529
      @hlynkacg9529 Před 17 dny +8

      ​@MrNicoJac you shut down the reactor before you shut off the propellant flow.

    • @annoyed707
      @annoyed707 Před 11 dny +1

      @@MrNicoJac Who would ever want to decrease thrust when you are destined for Infinity and Beyond!

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Před 11 dny

      @@annoyed707
      Hahaha
      Yeah, why stop at a place you can colonize (or at least refuel), if you could just zoom ever faster through sheer nothingness 😂

  • @dariorthan8059
    @dariorthan8059 Před 17 dny +98

    Jeb has survived extra-vehicular reentry
    do you really think he gives a shit about such lowly things as nuclear exhaust?

    • @fireshredder24
      @fireshredder24 Před 17 dny

      NTR exhaust is moving way faster than Jeb upon re-entry. With an ISP of 800 seconds in vacuum, the LV-N Nerv puts out almost 8 km/s of exhaust velocity (though of course it's a vacuum engine and doesn't work at all at sea level). While your typical Kerbin re-entry is less than 4 km/s. (Which results in 4x the impact energy of each particle compared to Kerbin re-entry)

    • @ThePCguy17
      @ThePCguy17 Před 16 dny +2

      @@fireshredder24 He has also, at times, used rocket exhaust as a stepstool to jump off of in order to perform a return journey from the mun to Kerbin...with no protective equipment save his space-suit and personal maneuvering thrusters.
      Something tells me this man is invincible, unless the Kraken has been recently summoned.

  • @CTXSLPR
    @CTXSLPR Před 17 dny +95

    Not a neutron moderator prison, it's a neutron poison or absorber prison. A moderator would just make things worse as it would push your neutron temperature down and make fission more likely.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Před 17 dny +6

      Well spotted - thanks.

    • @hoojiwana
      @hoojiwana Před 17 dny +12

      You're right!
      - hoojiwana from Spacedock

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept Před 17 dny +6

      If my time playing CoaDE is any indication, designing an NTR of any kind is a balancing act of immense proportions.

    • @caliperstorm8343
      @caliperstorm8343 Před 17 dny +5

      @@TheTrueAdept That’s only a problem if you’re doing it manually, like you have to in CoaDE. In real engineering you’d write a program in MATLAB or something to vary the inputs automatically and find the best configuration. Basically the same thing you do for interplanetary transfers with porkchop plots.

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 Před 17 dny +1

      @@TheTrueAdept In the 1950s, thermal reactors for nuclear powered aircraft were researched. The work I've read about used Beryllium Oxide moderation and then used atmospheric air as the coolant and propulsion gas.
      At least one episode of Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds features a nuclear powered airliner.

  • @gorzonthechampion6784
    @gorzonthechampion6784 Před 17 dny +100

    Please make a video covering the Honorverse.

  • @rfletch62
    @rfletch62 Před 17 dny +23

    The nuke / salt water rocket sounds like the Queller drive from "Space 1999". So bad it's inventor had to go into hiding like a war criminal.

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH Před 17 dny +9

      No no, nothing so fanciful. It's more like riding a plume of Godzilla's breath.

    • @torg2126
      @torg2126 Před 16 dny +7

      And it's a reasionable torch drive, so we can get to interesting places within human liftime, instead of tortus lifetimes.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon Před 9 dny +2

      @RorikH Thanks for reminding me of that one time Godzilla flew backwards using his own atomic breath as propulsion. 😂

  • @Inglonias
    @Inglonias Před 17 dny +15

    There's a plan to fly one of these pretty soon! It's a mission called DRACO: Demonstration Rocket for Agile Cislunar Operations

  • @user-g7x4o
    @user-g7x4o Před 17 dny +11

    my favourite real life nuclear method of space travel was the early plans to drop nuclear bombs under a craft with a massive lead shield to the craft would ''bounce'' up off the ground then ''bounce'' further up on top more and more small nuclear bombs detonated under it. its insane to think it was genuinely considered as a form of early ascension into orbit

    • @Techno_Idioto
      @Techno_Idioto Před 17 dny +6

      They did an episode on the Orion Drive, go check it out!

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH Před 17 dny +2

      Ah yes, the "Morph Ball Bomb" technique.

    • @carloshenriquezimmer7543
      @carloshenriquezimmer7543 Před 16 dny +2

      basically a "DRY" nuclear salt water rocket

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Před 17 dny +25

    In Universal Century of Mobile Suit Gundam, the nuclear thermal rockets were fueled by Minovsky Fusion Reactor filled with Helium-3 that produced Minovsky Particles which disrupts communication and scrambled targeting systems.

    • @crashstudi0s
      @crashstudi0s Před 17 dny

      Sounds cool, but whats that minovsky particle?

    • @AngemonOfLight
      @AngemonOfLight Před 17 dny +10

      @@crashstudi0sA fictional particle in the Gundam series. Generated by fusion reactors in the series, the M-particles had new several side effects and applications. The most notable is the jamming of telecommunications.

    • @federationprime
      @federationprime Před 17 dny +10

      @@AngemonOfLightthus, the return to mk1 human eyeball combat distances we see in early UC

    • @Kestrel-ws3cg
      @Kestrel-ws3cg Před 17 dny +4

      ⁠@@AngemonOfLightThe M-particle has a side effect of existing being an EM field and the denser the M-particle is in an area the stronger the em field gets to a point where the only method of comms is light signals or more commonly laser comms

  • @weiwenng8096
    @weiwenng8096 Před 17 dny +19

    "Nonstop Chernobyl. Weapons-grade uranium." - Scott on the NSWR.

  • @matthewconnor5483
    @matthewconnor5483 Před 17 dny +10

    NSWR is my favorite idea for a nuclear rocket and seems like the perfect concept for a deep space vehicle.

  • @realitypoet
    @realitypoet Před 17 dny +7

    Another advantage of having a fission reactor onboard is you can use the high energy photons to recrystalize your dilithium!

  • @anonymouse...
    @anonymouse... Před 17 dny +39

    I will be stationed in a space warship one day mark my words

    • @nobody8717
      @nobody8717 Před 17 dny +8

      i'm not sure that putting a corpse on a ship counts as "being stationed" on it.

    • @remliqa
      @remliqa Před 16 dny +1

      Is that reference I missed? I doubt anyone alive today will ever be in a space warship at any time in the future.

    • @MichaelWinter-ss6lx
      @MichaelWinter-ss6lx Před 16 dny

      I sense a change in the near future. L👀k how well China is doing. India now taking consequances out of NASA's unreliability. But you just can't leave the paranoid Americans out of the equation. And ESA still pretending Europe the 51st state; not sure if even will be remembered by privat space corporations.
      Very much can happen within only 30 years. In two years we will see at least two nuke motor demonstrations in orbit. That will be the starting point. 400 years till we are ready for the stars.
      🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

    • @CodyLundberg
      @CodyLundberg Před 15 dny +3

      If I don't die fighting pirates in the asteroid belt while filled with pig organs, was life really worth living?

  • @davidcolby167
    @davidcolby167 Před 17 dny +6

    Fun fact: I've been writing a D&D in space setting whose entire premise is that it has a "standard fantasy" world that is forced into space due to a planetary catastrophe that destroys the biosphere - but they find a totally, 100% realistic solar system. Like, the most livable planet after their now destroyed home is a Martian icebox. After barely surviving in orbit for centuries using magic and advancing technology, someone invents a nuclear thermal rocket, combines it with the Decanter of Endless Water magical item, and boom, they have ships that can get just about anywhere.
    So, it's...a bit like the Expanse meets D&D!

  • @jacobbronsky464
    @jacobbronsky464 Před 17 dny +16

    Play Rings of Saturn people. It's basically Nuclear Thermal Propulsion: the game.

  • @akiramasashi9317
    @akiramasashi9317 Před 16 dny +9

    1:14 actual video start.

  • @chid2196
    @chid2196 Před 17 dny +8

    man I would so love a sojourn tabletop ship game.

    • @bjboss1119
      @bjboss1119 Před 9 dny +1

      I'm still waiting on a Battleship game that's more like Flames of war or WH40K in gameplay style, rather than alphabet practice.

  • @Attaxalotl
    @Attaxalotl Před 17 dny +3

    I'm so glad you mentioned the NSWR; it's the Casaba-Howitzer of engines!

  • @Versudan
    @Versudan Před 17 dny +11

    Technically, you could decommission nuclear engines in a "special facility" known as the Sun. Just pointing out the option there. 😅

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH Před 17 dny +7

      I think per the laws of orbital momentum it's actually easier to hurl them all the way out of the solar system than into the sun.

    • @Versudan
      @Versudan Před 4 hodinami +1

      @@RorikH That also works.

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH Před 4 hodinami

      @@Versudan And if it doesn't, then at least it's far enough away that it's not your problem anymore.

  • @martinjrgensen8234
    @martinjrgensen8234 Před 17 dny +12

    The pathfinder shuttle is fantastic

  • @FergorH
    @FergorH Před 17 dny +6

    I'm surprised Gundam didn't show up at all in this video in particular when compared to all the others where we got clips from the franchise, since 90% of the Mobile Suits (Mechs) and the ships use thermonuclear rocket engines as their main method of propulsion.

    • @jessicam.4061
      @jessicam.4061 Před 17 dny +2

      I know the MS-09 Dom uses thermonuclear JET engines, but I was under the impression that most mobile suits and ships used some kind of conventional liquid propellant?
      Given most settings feature some kind of nuclear fusion powerplants, surely they're some kind of electrothermal or electromagnetic rocket instead? It seems incredibly wasteful to rig up a fission engine (or five), go to the trouble of providing adequate shielding and heat dissipation when... You can just use the onboard power source instead.
      It WOULD go towards explaining the absolutely massive propellant tanks on the Rewloola class, on the other hand.

    • @FergorH
      @FergorH Před 16 dny

      @@jessicam.4061 They do use liquid propellant, mostly hear it is hydrogen, but I could swear I read somewhere they used propane or something similar, can't remember where, but hydrogen makes more sense anyways. Either way, it is still thermonuclear rockets, that's what's written in a all the lore books, they already got all that heat from the fusion reactor, might as well use it. Though I wouldn't rule out some magnetic confinement from the nozzles, especially on the later generation MS.

  • @corporategunner5972
    @corporategunner5972 Před 17 dny +17

    Boy, I sure like this concept of NTR.
    I heard Japan likes to use them in their manga.
    Lemme just che-

    • @the-letter_s
      @the-letter_s Před 12 dny +4

      reminds me of CBT.
      Cognitive Behavioural Therapy.

  • @dangernoodle235
    @dangernoodle235 Před 17 dny +5

    Modded Kerbal Space Program my beloved

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 Před 16 dny +1

    I remember the 'Queller Drive' from Space: 1999. It somehow achieved high speeds by spewing out 'fast neutrons' out the back, so it does sound like something similar to a nuclear rocket.

  • @SomeoneNamedTygget
    @SomeoneNamedTygget Před 17 dny +8

    Funny that the thumbnail for this video about nuclear thermal rockets is of a spacecraft with methalox engines. Funnier still that there were two other spacecraft in the season of television that spacecraft is from and both of those other spacecraft used nuclear thermal rockets.

  • @schadowsshade7870
    @schadowsshade7870 Před 17 dny +2

    Yes YEEEES I Need This Video! Let me consuuuuuume it 😲

  • @The_Viscount
    @The_Viscount Před 16 dny

    I am so happy you mentioned Nuclear Salt Water rockets. I love the nutty things.

  • @Guntank214
    @Guntank214 Před 16 dny +1

    The nuclear salt water engine has to be one of my favorite insane but still theoretically possible engine designs.

  • @mahatmarandy5977
    @mahatmarandy5977 Před 17 dny +8

    I have always wondered if the additional weight of the reactor core and such shielding as you have offsets the advantage of not having to have an oxidant. I suppose there is some combination of elements where you would definitely get more than enough power to offset that, but from what I know of the NERVA test, I am under the impression they did not reach that point.
    Another concern I have always had is that the NERVAs were always kept in an excited state, just barely shy of melting down. That’s not a huge problem when you’ve got just one engine, but if you’ve got three of them strapped together like in all of the early NERVA mars rocket designs, the neutrons escaping from each individuals stage are gonna hit the Coors from the other two stages because as you pointed out, there’s really only shielding on the front end, not on the sides. So I have always wondered if having clusters bundled together like that would automatically make them meltdown.
    Which obviously is not the same as if nuclear reactor melts down on earth, I’m not nearly as dangerous, they are in space after all, but I still wonder.
    On the bright side, though, getting rid of irradiated spent nuclear thermal engines is really not a problem. Just hook up a new fuel tank to them, and let them use whatever is left of their core to propel the dangerous engine off into interstellar space. Cake!

  • @salixalba6536
    @salixalba6536 Před 17 dny +76

    NTR means something else entirely to the internet

    • @HitodamaKyrie
      @HitodamaKyrie Před 17 dny

      Power up the Cuck Drive.

    • @ButterflyD3fect
      @ButterflyD3fect Před 17 dny +15

      I... should probably not google it I presume.

    • @playyourturntodieatvgperson
      @playyourturntodieatvgperson Před 17 dny +17

      one time i was talking on discord about nuclear thermal rockets then someone said WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BRING CUCKOLDING IN JAPAN INTO THIS and thats how i learned of the other meaning

    • @tomoe6108
      @tomoe6108 Před 17 dny

      "Nuclear Thermal Rockets (NTR) are an incredible technology which bypasses one of the fundamental rules of the universe. To learn more, search 'NTR Rule 34'"

    • @SportyMabamba
      @SportyMabamba Před 17 dny +14

      Welcome to all the members of Today’s 10,000 who are finding out about the Japanese kind of NTR for the first time 🎉

  • @ConnorAustin
    @ConnorAustin Před 16 dny

    It’s nice to see someone covering these in a non sarcastic manner or a mocking tone

  • @ruedigerleibrandt8394

    That Kerbals face expression is priceless!

  • @DX47-h3z
    @DX47-h3z Před 7 dny

    "to stop it from going Spicy Mode"
    Interesting choice of words.

  • @excell211
    @excell211 Před 17 dny +12

    Thermonuclear propulsion makes me wonder why they don't use Laser Propulsion, you use the nuclear reactor to power up the laser to accelerate the gas thermally. This way you can use it in atmosphere and in space as a evaporative cooling and propulsion hybrid.
    Guys, I meant an electric laser powered by a nuclear reactor, not a laser directy powered by the radiation/explosion.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Před 17 dny +4

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but:
      When doing anything nuclear, you're essentially _also_ yeeting out the "laser" parts. If you're using a laser, that mass/energy remains unused.
      So that's why the laser is less efficient, and therefore not used.
      (also, when talking about nuclear, a little mass "evaporating" yield a LOT of energy, and that's a dynamic you're not tapping into with a laser)
      Keen to read your thoughts about all the above :)

    • @Tuning3434
      @Tuning3434 Před 17 dny +3

      more mass, more energy conversion steps, less efficiency. Sure, going nuclear is prob. best to run the lasers on, but chemical rockets have the advantage that they do no need a laser to do the explody and acceleration bit by explody heating.
      It would make the nuclear rocket part considerably worse, and I wonder how much efficiency gain is achievable considering how much thrust become a factor in draggy atmosphere.

    • @henryfleischer404
      @henryfleischer404 Před 17 dny

      That kind of propulsion would require very large radiators.

    • @goiterlanternbase
      @goiterlanternbase Před 17 dny

      Laser suck in energy efficiency. Even LED emitters suck against any steam engine.

    • @Talon19
      @Talon19 Před 17 dny +1

      @@goiterlanternbase
      Why does it always come back to steam!??

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 Před 17 dny +3

    Ah footage from the movie *Lifeforce.* My mother thought it was classic British sci fi like Dr Who or Quartermass so _she took me to see it at the cinema_ when I was 13...
    For those that haven't seen it the lead *Space Vampire* is played by a _18 year old French actress_ who was *fully nude* for 90% of her screen time (the other 10% was in see through robes that hid very little).
    And a lot of it was full frontal.
    So while watching the film I was hugging my knees to my chest, but not out of fear.
    The McDonalds afterwards was eaten in silence.
    There exists levels of awkwardness you cannot even comprehend.

  • @electricminecrafter
    @electricminecrafter Před 17 dny +2

    moral of the story... jeb is invincible

  • @deanlawson6880
    @deanlawson6880 Před 17 dny

    Wow! What a great video on the various and sundry different varieties of Nuclear Thermal propulsion systems! I completely agree that these are the near-term next step as we advance out of chemical propulsion to something faster and better to get us around our Solar System.
    I continue to believe that a little longer term solution is the Pulsar Fusion developed Fusion Plasma Torch drive - This will be an awesome propulsion system until we can someday advance to using antimatter based propulsion like our favorite Sci-Fi series uses!!

  • @lurkingllama8364
    @lurkingllama8364 Před 17 dny

    Hearing you guys mention the Nuclear Lightbulb made me smile. Like for you!

  • @Eragon7331
    @Eragon7331 Před 17 dny +30

    Not needing to shield space is only valid for empty space. If you have these things running in the upper atmosphere, you're probably going to wipe out quite a few satellites. On the bright side, we would be able to have polar lights over Central Europe once again. You lose some, you win some. 🤷‍♂

    • @nobody8717
      @nobody8717 Před 17 dny +6

      it's less about the lights from the satellites, and more about the fact that you cannot walk 30 feet without a streetlamp.
      try going to the wh keck observatory sometime, and you'll instantly see the difference.

    • @Zacho5
      @Zacho5 Před 17 dny +3

      The inverse square law means the unshielded reactor wont effect stuff past like 1km.

    • @MichaelWinter-ss6lx
      @MichaelWinter-ss6lx Před 16 dny

      Hey, children;•) must I remind you of the cosmic radiation? A dirty little fission reactor is nothing. And still it needs more protection against Coronal Mass Ejection. And NO: a mask will do no good.

  • @mickeyhage
    @mickeyhage Před 17 dny +1

    The Nuclear Salt Water Rockets is my favorite.

  • @Garwinium
    @Garwinium Před 17 dny +2

    1:26 *HANK! DON’T ABBREVIATE NUCLEAR THERMAL ROCKET ENGINE! HANK!*

  • @jaredray7034
    @jaredray7034 Před 17 dny +4

    I don’t know about you guys, but if you’re already risking your neck by going into space, flying between planets, and using the nuclear propulsion, you might as well embrace the cool factor of riding a CONTINUOUS NUCLEAR EXPLOSION.

  • @casualsleepingdragon8501
    @casualsleepingdragon8501 Před 17 dny +3

    It would be interesting if you could induce trust wiþout need an exhaust.

  • @philrm99
    @philrm99 Před 17 dny +2

    Excellent explanation.

  • @byron2FZ
    @byron2FZ Před 17 dny

    It would be cool to see a video on methods of surviving the extreme acceleration that some of the propulsion methods you have talked about would cause.

  • @peteradvisers2684
    @peteradvisers2684 Před 17 dny +9

    All my homies hate antinuclear NIMBY, they robbed us of the spicy rockets.

    • @chrisbingley
      @chrisbingley Před 17 dny

      They robbed us of a lot of things.

    • @enisra_bowman
      @enisra_bowman Před 17 dny +2

      how about that: you convince them to build a nuclear storage facility under your houses and you can get your spicy rocket

    • @peteradvisers2684
      @peteradvisers2684 Před 13 dny +1

      @@enisra_bowman I would absolutely be okay with that. I’m an engineer too so I got to work near home.

  • @byron2FZ
    @byron2FZ Před 12 dny

    A video on the concerns of Damage Control aboard a spacebound ship or station could be cool

  • @intrynzyk
    @intrynzyk Před 17 dny +8

    NTR lol
    Yes, I'm 12
    But also, it does kind of annoy and baffle me that we are willing to take massive risks with other technologies with no concern about what they might do to society or the environment, but nuclear power is apparently just off the table.

    • @carboneagle
      @carboneagle Před 17 dny

      Big green doesn't want competition.

  • @joaomiguelmoreira6363
    @joaomiguelmoreira6363 Před 17 dny +2

    Hell yeah, the all and be all of my Duna trips

  • @TheTrueAdept
    @TheTrueAdept Před 17 dny +5

    The thing about hydrogen is that it's a horrid propellant. You're better off using methane or decade than hydrogen if you're stuck using solid-core NTRs. If you're using gas-core NTRs (or better yet, fusion or antimatter rockets), then water is your best bet.

    • @danwall3102
      @danwall3102 Před 15 dny

      Depends on whether you're going for higher thrust or higher efficiency... For high thrust, you're correct.

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept Před 15 dny

      @@danwall3102 for a combat ship? High thrust is a must.

    • @danwall3102
      @danwall3102 Před 15 dny

      @@TheTrueAdept True.

  • @ludflight
    @ludflight Před 16 dny +1

    There’s a game called Retrograde Legends that has NTRs and orbital mechanics. It’s not out yet but its pretty cool

  • @50043211
    @50043211 Před 17 dny

    This all sounds like to have a rendezvous with death.

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares Před 17 dny +2

    Maybe putting things that don't need to be protected from radiation like extra flue storage in bwetween you and the rocket would save on some mass, though the effeteness dose drop off as fuel is burned.

  • @NestorKYAT
    @NestorKYAT Před 17 dny +1

    Ha, just finished watching For All Mankind less than a week ago. It was nice to see the thumbnail

  • @Bean-boi
    @Bean-boi Před 16 dny

    SPACEDOCK! MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT TORCH DRIVES OR SPACE TETHERS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

  • @viktoriaalden3452
    @viktoriaalden3452 Před 15 dny

    I love the pathfinder from FAM, but lighting the nerva up in atmosphere is just insane. And it's especially weird because it does have two more engines that looks kinda like OMS pods. Wouldn't it make more sense to use those for atmospheric flight, and the nerva for orbital burns?

  • @johnathan651
    @johnathan651 Před 17 dny +1

    Ironically, I think nuclear-thermal rockets are the coolest idea for an interplanetary vessel we could actually build today (technology-wise). The engines they tested worked, it was nuclear test bans that got in the way.

  • @einknxck4277
    @einknxck4277 Před 16 dny

    We need to see a full on space battle of the sojourn

  • @britishneko3906
    @britishneko3906 Před 16 dny

    so an NTER is basically a nuclear powered water steam railgun....
    I love it

  • @the_kraken6549
    @the_kraken6549 Před 5 dny

    This vaguely resembles an open-cycle thermal management system in the sense that it’s putting heat into a liquid & then chucking it overboard. It’s just optimized for thrust instead.

  • @theworkshopwhisperer.5902

    What about project orion aka the atomic pogo stick? While not technically a thermal rocket it is still atomic propulsion in space and should have gotten an honourable mention. (Spacedock already did a video on this if you're interested.)

  • @tymek200101
    @tymek200101 Před 17 dny +2

    decomissioning: yeet it into a

    • @nobody8717
      @nobody8717 Před 17 dny +1

      if you want to pay enough to push that engine 18-30km/s in the opposite direction of your craft, feel free.
      and that's just to deorbit it from near earth.
      I'd rather just drop it and use that same amount of fuel to go to jupiter, or uranus.

  • @ComradePhoenix
    @ComradePhoenix Před 16 dny

    2:25 You know, I woke up this morning, never thinking I'd see such a cursed nuclear space shuttle design. And now here we are.
    Why? How? WHY?!

  • @dsmiley53
    @dsmiley53 Před 16 dny

    Hey for future content, the game Delta-V Rings of Saturn also uses nuclear thermal rockets for an Expanse-like near-future setting.

  • @SpottedHares
    @SpottedHares Před 16 dny +1

    Theirs something missed about the advantages of high temperature. using the far more abutment and stable U238 as fuel. At very high temperature the neutrons have so much more energy that when they are absorbed by the U238 they undergo fission rather then the normal 239 decay chain. you can kind of get around the radioactive and unstable fuel and since U238 is so good at absorbing neutrons at lower energy levels it helps keep they pesky partials under control.

  • @MrChupacabra555
    @MrChupacabra555 Před 16 dny

    As stupid (and Fun, in a 'turn your brain off' kind of way 😅)as "Life Force" was, I did love that 'long range space shuttle' sequence at the beginning, both the shuttle itself, and the 'Giger-esque' Alien Spaceship in the comet.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 Před 17 dny +3

    Interesting!

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple Před 7 dny

    More than i currently wanted to know about nuclear rockets that aren't Project ORION, but I will definitely need all this info someday if I ever go back to hard SF fiction! I'm also amused to know that Professor Calculus's moon rocket could actually have been built.

  • @smimoma5930
    @smimoma5930 Před 17 dny +3

    I'm pretty sure the spacecraft in the Thumbnail is powered by Methane engines in the show
    Edit: It's fixed now🙂

  • @OpreanMircea
    @OpreanMircea Před 16 dny

    I love this subject

  • @jonskowitz
    @jonskowitz Před 15 dny

    I think the Salt-water rocket is the only option where refuelling operations and storage are more terrifying than the rocket itself 🤣

  • @bmouch1018
    @bmouch1018 Před 15 dny

    Each video from Spacedock has me thinking they need to start using visuals from Children of a Dead Earth in their technical videos because NTRs are the main engine choice for warships in that game and you find pretty quick that methane is the most optimal fuel for a warship using NTRs made with present tech.

  • @saturnv2419
    @saturnv2419 Před 17 dny +2

    Chernobyl really changed our perception of nuclear energy that would take decades to recover.

  • @cookiejarvis3856
    @cookiejarvis3856 Před 16 dny

    I would love seeing the different types of fusion engines or fusion reactors. Terra-Invicta has many engine and reactor types.

  • @ssdrbx6180
    @ssdrbx6180 Před 17 dny

    another trade-off alternative is to use hydrazine/anomia/High-test peroxide as fuel instead, it halves the isp but x10 the thrust, also much more dense than hydrogen and doesn't need sophisticated fuel cooling system which can reduce dry mass

  • @Jacen32272
    @Jacen32272 Před 7 dny

    I would think the solution to engines producing radioactive exhaust would be simple: use chemical rockets to get into space and nuclear ones facing away from Earth once out there. This would have the radioactive materials moving away from the crew at all times while providing extended thrust towards the target destination.

  • @adamshafeeq8685
    @adamshafeeq8685 Před 17 dny +1

    Can you do a video on designations in sci-fi? This is something that has been confusing me for a while. Anytime i watch anything explaining ships, weapons, vehicles, etc, the one question that comes to mind is "wtf do any of those numbers and letters even mean?"

  • @TheSaneHatter
    @TheSaneHatter Před 15 dny

    One sub-topic worth addressing is how many of these designs are dependent on today's conventional, uranium-/plutonium-based fission (with its long history, but also its ties to the making of weapons), and how many could be sued with the newer, supposedly cleaner, thorium-based technologies that have been proposed. The choice could mean that space travel could well decided the future of nuclear power, depending on which is favored.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 17 dny

    Great video...👍

  • @NonsenseFabricator
    @NonsenseFabricator Před 15 dny +1

    11:45 - Conan O'Brien on Hot Ones

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 Před 17 dny

    Thx for the video!

  • @adken77
    @adken77 Před 23 hodinami

    I will forever be disappointed that the nuclear salt water rocket isn't called the Chernobyl Drive

  • @taiko1237
    @taiko1237 Před 14 dny

    Minor correction - we definitely don't have the technology to build most sorts of gascore nuclear thermal rocket. Certainly not a nuclear lightbulb. But yes, solid and maybe liquid core NTRs are fairly doable and (iirc) NASA actually wants to test a solid core in space by 2030.

  • @bbaker4117
    @bbaker4117 Před 17 dny +2

    1:23 What's that space shuttle with the solar panels from?

  • @Striker427
    @Striker427 Před 16 dny

    6:38 USSF Alan Shepard my beloved

  • @vinnieboJ
    @vinnieboJ Před 16 dny

    When will this audio drama become available in my region (Europe/Netherlands) on Spotify. I'd love to listen to it!

  • @Babushka_001
    @Babushka_001 Před 11 dny

    Hi i love your Videos and was wondering if u could do a breakdown for some of the Star Citizen Ships like the Javelin, Drake Kraken or the likes.

  • @ZaydeStorm
    @ZaydeStorm Před 7 dny

    Hmmm... maybe a hybrid between a gas core and nuclear salt rocket? Salt rocket could be like after burner mode. Would be incredibly challenging to design and build though. Effort that might not neccessarily have much benefit no less.
    Could you dive into nuclear fusion rockets soon?

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte Před 17 dny +1

    Question: let's say you get an approval to make Voyager 2.0 with modern tech and mass budget of 5k tons(spread over modules of 200 ton max and yes, you need to include fuel into those 5k), what would it look like? Acceleration with NTER, sustained thrust with ions? What would be the equipment and tasks given to it? Let's say that 12 of them would be launched in 3D sphere pattern in all directions using gravity maneuvers around the Sun after they accelerate to a certain point and that a decade later a second set would be launched.

    • @DecidedlyNinja
      @DecidedlyNinja Před 17 dny +1

      Probably nuclear-electric propulsion. If you're going that far, you have plenty of time to accelerate so low thrust is less of a problem. I wonder what scientists would do with the payload capacity of even one 5,000 ton probe. That's worth a lot of instruments..

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte Před 17 dny

      @@DecidedlyNinja that's why I was asking as it's more of a question what one would do with that. And mind you, majority of mass likely would be fuel and support systems.

  • @fjvmunsterman
    @fjvmunsterman Před 16 dny

    There is actually a more recent re-design of Zubrin's Nuclear Salt Water Rocket, namely the Lithium Salt Water Rocket (also known as the Lithium-6 deuteride rocket) by a friend of Zubrin called William Mook. It has most of the positives, but none of the negatives. A trip to the moon would take about 2 hours and 45 minutes, a trip to Mars just over 3 days, and a trip to Jupiter would take just over 7 days ! Plus, with the speeds a spacecraft reaches with this engine, would give it an onboard artificial gravity of between 0,45 g, all the way up to 1 g (not unlike what we saw in The Expanse tv series !) As the saying would go:"now we're getting somewhere !" Someone call Elon Musk ?

  • @twelfthknight
    @twelfthknight Před 17 dny +4

    Man, I love NTR.

  • @Mika-ph6ku
    @Mika-ph6ku Před 5 dny

    Jebediah giving 0 fucks about being in the plume of a nuclear rocket where all the other Kerbals were dying or flying away immediately is so KSP.

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um Před 17 dny

    I read somewhere that Lockheed Martin was awarded the contract to build a nuclear thermal spacecraft, and its expected to launch in 2027.

  • @kimarykorlumiose7728
    @kimarykorlumiose7728 Před 9 dny +1

    calling this engine "NTR" is almost as bad as the USAF naming their missile "aeromorph"

  • @HappilyHomicidalHooligan

    10:50 Wait, [insert Hypersonic Record Scratch here] WHAT???
    Someone actually figured out how to make a SANE, Controllable Orion Drive???
    More importantly, one we might actually be able to build with current Technology???
    Holy 💩!!!
    😄😁😆😅😂🤣