This performance is the gold standard for these two arias, the greatest in the Mozart repertoire for sopranos depicting women wronged. Better than Fleming even, I wish we had more of her on You tube!
I can only assume all these 'experts' want everyone to sound exactly the same to suit their particular personal preferences. To my untrained ear, this is a wonderful performance, full of emotion and passion and I will returm to it time and time again, as I will Fleming's version ! FWIW I also think her eyes are really lovely.
OMG! She had been definitely kissed by an angel on that night. What a surprise. There's everything: technique, emotions, individuality, nuances, musical intelligence, STYLE! Thank you, La Roschmann, thanks Franz Welser-Most
Brava, Dorothea. Look how the musicians applaud you with sincerity--they know. So moving. Beautiful musically, and everything about you is the Countess. Brava.
I totaly agreee witht you. ... so right technique to be the Countess ! I like sich kind of voice technique! It's very organic and makes voice sound on his natural timbre. Very nice and great singer.
DOROTHEA ROSCHMANN has a beautiful and very rich creamy voice. I love her in the Magic Flute. I love her diction too. You hear every syllable of every word.
The 12 minutes that made me fall in love with opera and made me understand how one's sad mood could be radically changed by the power of a superb singer singing gorgeous arias from such a wonderful composer. Will never forget the moment I saw this performance live on tv. How I wish I could see Dorothea Roschmann in a live performance!!
Oh my, I saw this on TV when it aired. If I remember correctly, this was supposed to be just a concert and for some reason they added in Roschmann at the last minute. This was my first time ever hearing her. And I remember my father kept saying "This sounds too sad" (throughout both arias. Lol.) I tried to explain to him what she was singing. Ah, good times! And a surprise soprano. Loved it. She is wonderful.
To few to say... listening this two songs of Le Nozze di Figaro my life become better in every way... Thank you Dorothea... thank you Mr. Amadeus wherever you be.
I have never been a fan of Maria Callas, however I listened to her singing Porgi Amor and thought it rather lovely, and then a few minutes later I found this performance along with Dove Sono Absolutely no comparison, give me Dorothea any time
Perfekter Auftritt einer bodenständigen und sympathischen Künstlerin! Kein Schnickschnack, nur das wundervolle Orchester, die himmlische Musik Mozarts und natürlich die unvergleichliche "La Röschmann". Bravo!
Wow! She just sooooo good and her voice is extremely beautiful. ♥ I cried listening to the "Porgi, amor". Makes me wish that I'll be that good one day! :) Thanks for sharing! :))
@@broede85 Thank-you very much to your good reply ！ How is your country and your condition ？ Tokyo is getting colder and colder , but there is no snow . Today is 8℃ in Tokyo . All Japanese people are already excited about New Year . Supermarkets and department stores are everywhere in Tokyo crowded with customers shopping for New Year,s decorations( Shimekazari ) , delicious foods and their staffs . Every house and store are equipped with decorations ( Kadomatsu or shimekazari ) celebrating the New Year at the entrance . Thank-you again for Japan next year . Take care of yourself Good luck ！
@@shin-i-chikozima Oh, fantastic: you are living in Tokyo. Mainly, will go there to enjoy restaurants, Karaoke, nightlife, rooftop bars in skyscrapers and Onsen. Thanks a lot for your description. 8 degrees is quite good, not too cold. Did not know that your inhabitants are flooding department stores and supermarkets so tremendously and beeing excited regarding New Years Eve. I can imagine that the Tokyo people are also buying great delicious indigenous food and delicacies.=) In Germany, there are app. 2 degrees without snow. In recent days, it was very calm and quiet warm.
@@broede85 Thank-you very much to your good , nice and wonderful reply ！ On New Year,s Eve, temples in various parts of Japan call a large bell of 1〜2 meters in diameter hanging 108 times , called 「 night bell → Japanese mean ( Joya no kane ) 除夜の鐘」 It's a Buddhist teaching that human beings suffer with 108 anxieties . The belly is truck on New Year,s Eve and annihilated . When the year begins , a tremendous number of worshipers pray to temples and shrines to pray for the safety and prosperity of the year , even at severe cold midnight . The donations that temples and shrines receive from worshipers become hundreds of thousands of USA dollars or euros only on the first three days of New Year . The donations are tax - free . On the New Year,s days , Japanese children are given the allowance or the pocket money from their parents , relatives and company - related visitors who come to greet the New Year . The amount they receive is about 1000〜10000 Japanese yen ( 10〜100USA dollars or euros ) per person , and for children with large amounts , it's several hundred thousand Japanese yen ( several thousand USA dollars or euros ) Their mother keeps most of their allowance in the bank in her children,s name . The decorations ( Kadomatsu and shimekazari ) for the New Year are installed in the entrance of every house , store , hotel and back . etc. Thank-you again for Japan this year ！ Take care of yourself Good luck ！ It's still a bit early for the New Year,s greeting , I will send a greeting from Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun to you and your great country,s people .
How can anyone give this marvelous performance a thumbs down? I'm a Trump Deplorable and think an aria is the parameter of a firing range and Alma Gluck the newest most advanced firearm, but I am brought to tears each time I hear Dorothea Röschmann sing these two arias from Le nozze di Figaro. Sure, it ain't Achy Breaky Heart or Stand By Your Man, but down here in flyover country, it comes close.
For those who don't think Dorothea Röschmann can't sing. Rosina is particularly difficult as she is so reticent and never wears her heart on the sleave. In "Nozze di Figaro" Rosina is the mysterious one. Susanna is fairly simple, Figaro is the practical one, Almaviva is a jerk and so is Cherubino. There are the emotions Rosina dare s to admit to herself. The obo-declares what she thinks of Almaviva. In Mozart there is a lot of things going on in the woodwind. Note the lot of A's and O's in the text - that fits the overtones of the oboe.
Porgi, amor, qualche ristoro al mio duolo a'miei sospir! O mi rendi il mio tesoro, o mi lascia almen morir! (Grant, love, some relief to my sorrow, to my sighing Either give me back my beloved, or just let me die!)
E Susanna non vien! Sono ansiosa di saper come il Conte accolse la proposta. Alquanto ardito il progetto mi par, E ad uno sposo si vivace e geloso! Ma che mal c'è? Cangiando i miei vestiti con quelli di Susanna, E suoi co'miei Al favor della notte. Oh, cielo! a qual umil stato fatale Io son ridotta da un consorte crudel! Che dopo avermi con un misto inaudito D'infedeltà, di gelosia, di sdegno! Prima amata, indi offesa, e alfin tradita, Fammi or cercar da una mia serva aita! Aria: Dove sono i bei momenti Di dolcezza e di piacer? Dove andaro i giuramenti Di quel labbro menzogner? Perchè mai, se in pianti e in pene Per me tutto si cangiò, La memoria di quel bene Dal mio sen non trapassò? Ah! se almen la mia costanza, Nel languire amando ognor, Mi portasse una speranza Di cangiar l'ingrato cor!
Supongo que ésta es la manera moderna de interpretar a Mozart, introduciendo una dinámica, un dramatismo, que en otras épocas se consideraba anatema. A mí, particularmente, Roschmann me gusta por su timbre aunque no me convencen ni su extraña intensidad ni su vibrato. En fin, que la escucho con agrado (no tengo claro si esto es un piropo o una crítica) pero no me produce ni el placer "intelectual" de algunas sopranos técnicamente perfectas ni el "cuasi físico" de otras con voces bellísimas. Por cierto, no consigo encontrar ya en YT la grabación en directo de Dove sono i bei momenti en el MET de VDLA en los años 50. ¿Alguien sabe dónde se puede escuchar/conseguir? Gracias.
I always had a problem with Janowitz on recording. Her vibrato was terribly goaty and her tone very boyish. In the theatre I have heard that these qualities were less annoying than on recording . Dorthea has less vibrato issues and a slightly more womanly sound than Janowitz.
I really liked her in the Magic Flute and considers her probably the best Pamina I've heard, but here I think both arias are a bit too high for her so it feels like she's forcing some of it and you can hear little cracks, Renee Fleming is better for these two arias; For example listen to Fleming's 1999 Met version, in the second "Dove... Sono" she literally sang it in a whisper, even as the pitch slides upward, which is an indication of superior technique--higher frequency pitch is incredibly difficult to sing softly, but she sang it effortlessly with (and amazingly) continuous even breath and sound. And she even changed it up to scale a even even higher for an emphasis. Here Roschmann had to scale up the loudness as she goes up in pitch which means that she doesn't have as good technique. Fleming also had far better controlled vibrato. One way you can tell quality of singing is by the vibrato, better controlled vibrato which does not compromise the pitch as much (because if you vibrato too much you can sound off-pitch, but lesser singers use that to compensate the effort) and makes their vibrato even, are usually better singers with better technique.
Just listen to Elisabeth Schwarzkopf in those two arias. Even better than Fleming or Te Kanawa! Best Contessa ever - also best Pamina ever! A true Mozart and Richard Strauss singer! No one has ever reached Schwarzkopf in those roles! :D
***** "That being said I don't think volume has that much to do with technique." LOL, just talk to a wind-instrument musician, it follows the same principle. Ask how difficult it is to play a high-pitched sound in pianissimo mode.
***** www.singing-tips-with-barbara-lewis.com/singing-high-notes.html "Singing high notes that are well-controlled and NOT always SHOUTED is a skill that many singers find difficult to acquire. For those vocalists who only use the belting voice, the highest notes will usually have to be loud or louder! To sing high notes with control - so that you can CHOOSE your volume level - requires that you use the right MIX of sound. In other words, you must know how to use your head voice."
***** sorry about sounding condescending. The original post you phrased was so idiotic that that I had to laugh. But obviously now that you explained what you really meant. I take the LOL back.
***** Of course Schwarzkopf sang Pamina on stage! My mother has kept a program in the 1950s where Schwarzkopf sung Pamina (as a guest star) in Basel! As far as I know there is also a recording with Schwarzkopf in German ... ;) czcams.com/video/OVILtUyHCY8/video.html
This performance is the gold standard for these two arias, the greatest in the Mozart repertoire for sopranos depicting women wronged. Better than Fleming even, I wish we had more of her on You tube!
You are so right. This is the best on You Tube.
How one cannot feel the emotion in her performance is beyond me. It gets me everytime I watch it. Simply stunning!
I think I'm in love. How can you not love a person capable of such heartbreaking beauty and virtuosity ❤️
I can only assume all these 'experts' want everyone to sound exactly the same to suit their particular personal preferences. To my untrained ear, this is a wonderful performance, full of emotion and passion and I will returm to it time and time again, as I will Fleming's version ! FWIW I also think her eyes are really lovely.
This is the best orchestral and vocal version I have heard! Ty
OMG! She had been definitely kissed by an angel on that night. What a surprise. There's everything: technique, emotions, individuality, nuances, musical intelligence, STYLE! Thank you, La Roschmann, thanks Franz Welser-Most
Two of the most beautiful arias ever written sung with superb skill and emotion, excellent.
Brava, Dorothea. Look how the musicians applaud you with sincerity--they know. So moving. Beautiful musically, and everything about you is the Countess. Brava.
I totaly agreee witht you. ... so right technique to be the Countess ! I like sich kind of voice technique! It's very organic and makes voice sound on his natural timbre. Very nice and great singer.
Leonie Mikele Ravishing！
DOROTHEA ROSCHMANN has a beautiful and very rich creamy voice. I love her in the Magic Flute. I love her diction too. You hear every syllable of every word.
The 12 minutes that made me fall in love with opera and made me understand how one's sad mood could be radically changed by the power of a superb singer singing gorgeous arias from such a wonderful composer. Will never forget the moment I saw this performance live on tv. How I wish I could see Dorothea Roschmann in a live performance!!
Exquisite! Beautiful voice. The magnificent genius Mozart!
Brava lei e immenso MOZART!!! Davvero un piacere ascoltare questo brano così bene eseguito. Grazie!
I love this woman, such a beautiful voice and feeling!
Makes me wanna cry.
Beu Kraken Ravishing！
Me too and I did!
She was great in the Magic Flute with Simon Keelyside and Damrau.
@@wadefite, yes, a wonderful Pamina.
What a voice! What an interpretation! What a beauty in presence and in herself! Dorothea is a beauty per se. And so is her voice,
I am seriously obsessed with this woman. Beautiful voice, beautiful looks x
About a minute into Dove Sono I felt tears rolling down my cheeks.
Oh my, I saw this on TV when it aired. If I remember correctly, this was supposed to be just a concert and for some reason they added in Roschmann at the last minute. This was my first time ever hearing her. And I remember my father kept saying "This sounds too sad" (throughout both arias. Lol.) I tried to explain to him what she was singing. Ah, good times! And a surprise soprano. Loved it. She is wonderful.
operagirl81 Ravishing！
She's just beautiful. I love her voice, and she's so sensuel and charming. Wow.
To few to say... listening this two songs of Le Nozze di Figaro my life become better in every way... Thank you Dorothea... thank you Mr. Amadeus wherever you be.
When the orchestra applauds, you know you nailed it. Brava!
Great voice, beautiful performance. I love her intensity.
A wondrous interpretation. Thank you, Dorothea.
I have never been a fan of Maria Callas, however I listened to her singing Porgi Amor and thought it rather lovely, and then a few minutes later I found this performance along with Dove Sono Absolutely no comparison, give me Dorothea any time
I'm listening to her with pleasure -- not once did I cringe -- beautiful, just beautiful.
Very beautiful, Even vocal line from bottom to top. Mozart singing requires this. She seems to be a good Mozart singer.
First time I am listening to her. Her voice is beautiful. A masterful performance.
De las mejores sopranos mozartianas. Extraordinaria Dorothea.
De las mejores sopranos tout court !!!
great, powerful and lovely voice...i love the texture of her.. she is my mentor...God bless you
Simply so very beautiful, a joy to experience.
Perfekter Auftritt einer bodenständigen und sympathischen Künstlerin! Kein Schnickschnack, nur das wundervolle Orchester, die himmlische Musik Mozarts und natürlich die unvergleichliche "La Röschmann". Bravo!
Beautiful performance. So touching and credible. Brava Dorothea.
I love her singing Mozart. I really do.
Simply wonderful. Thank you. An incredible voice.
I find her singing superb on every level.
Ella al final cansada y feliz ,se da cuenta ( antes que la orquesta y el público la ovacione ) que ha cantado como Dios
What a graceful conductor! I'm loving it. :-)
Ich war so ergriffen.Einer der sensationellsten Gesangsleistungen ! Bravo !
She is superb!! Ten thumbs up
Meravigliosa! ❤
Cantadas muy bien y con mucho cariño. Un placer haberla disfrutado. Gracias.
I admire those who give their best.
Wow! She just sooooo good and her voice is extremely beautiful. ♥
I cried listening to the "Porgi, amor". Makes me wish that I'll be that good one day! :)
Thanks for sharing! :))
Rose Bud You are welcome from Japan
@@shin-i-chikozima Lovely Japan. Will be there in 2021. Already excited=)
@@broede85
Thank-you very much to your good reply ！
How is your country and your condition ？
Tokyo is getting colder and colder , but there is no snow .
Today is 8℃ in Tokyo .
All Japanese people are already excited about New Year .
Supermarkets and department stores are everywhere in Tokyo crowded with customers shopping for New Year,s decorations( Shimekazari ) ,
delicious foods and their staffs .
Every house and store are equipped with decorations ( Kadomatsu or shimekazari ) celebrating the New Year at the entrance .
Thank-you again for Japan next year .
Take care of yourself
Good luck ！
@@shin-i-chikozima Oh, fantastic: you are living in Tokyo. Mainly, will go there to enjoy restaurants, Karaoke, nightlife, rooftop bars in skyscrapers and Onsen. Thanks a lot for your description. 8 degrees is quite good, not too cold. Did not know that your inhabitants are flooding department stores and supermarkets so tremendously and beeing excited regarding New Years Eve.
I can imagine that the Tokyo people are also buying great delicious indigenous food and delicacies.=) In Germany, there are app. 2 degrees without snow. In recent days, it was very calm and quiet warm.
@@broede85
Thank-you very much to your good , nice and wonderful reply ！
On New Year,s Eve,
temples in various parts of Japan call a large bell of 1〜2 meters in diameter hanging 108 times , called 「 night bell → Japanese mean ( Joya no kane ) 除夜の鐘」
It's a Buddhist teaching that human beings suffer with 108 anxieties .
The belly is truck on New Year,s Eve and annihilated .
When the year begins , a tremendous number of worshipers
pray to temples and shrines to pray for the safety and prosperity of the year , even at severe cold midnight .
The donations that temples and shrines receive from worshipers become hundreds of thousands of USA dollars or euros only on the first three days of New Year .
The donations are tax - free .
On the New Year,s days , Japanese children are given the allowance or the pocket money from their parents , relatives and company - related visitors who come to greet the New Year .
The amount they receive is about 1000〜10000 Japanese yen ( 10〜100USA dollars or euros ) per person , and for children with large amounts , it's several hundred thousand Japanese yen ( several thousand USA dollars or euros )
Their mother keeps most of their allowance in the bank in her children,s name .
The decorations ( Kadomatsu and shimekazari ) for the New Year are installed in the entrance of every house , store , hotel and back . etc.
Thank-you again for Japan this year ！
Take care of yourself
Good luck ！
It's still a bit early for the New Year,s greeting ,
I will send a greeting from Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun to you and your great country,s people .
She's fabulous!!!! I love her voice.......
Just magnificent. thanks.
What a great voice she has. I love her. Soo lovely. As good as Schwartzkopf or Von Stade.
How can anyone give this marvelous performance a thumbs down? I'm a Trump Deplorable and think an aria is the parameter of a firing range and Alma Gluck the newest most advanced firearm, but I am brought to tears each time I hear Dorothea Röschmann sing these two arias from Le nozze di Figaro. Sure, it ain't Achy Breaky Heart or Stand By Your Man, but down here in flyover country, it comes close.
Ew
For those who don't think Dorothea Röschmann can't sing. Rosina is particularly difficult as she is so reticent and never wears her heart on the sleave. In "Nozze di Figaro" Rosina is the mysterious one. Susanna is fairly simple, Figaro is the practical one, Almaviva is a jerk and so is Cherubino. There are the emotions Rosina dare s to admit to herself. The obo-declares what she thinks of Almaviva. In Mozart there is a lot of things going on in the woodwind. Note the lot of A's and O's in the text - that fits the overtones of the oboe.
So great and beautiful voice! Thanks a lot for posting!
WOW WOW WOW BRAVO IN 2020
Brava! Excellent. Loved her Dove sono.
so fantastisch! Ich bin froh sie mal gehört zu haben, Tränen in den Augen, wahre Kunst!!
She’s amazing
Eccellente ❤
thrilling performance
Mozart forever!
Ms Röschmann took part in the 2006(?) production of La Clemenza di Tito recorded at Salzburg, which is readily available and 100% worth getting!
Well, the audience seemed to like what they heard; and they were THERE!
Röschmann is a real gem.
beautiful !!!
TheDali2574 Ravishing！
Astounding
Preciosa, la musica, la voz y ella
lovely voice !
Just superb!!!
I love it
Super!!!
merci pour ces beaux partage.
First time hearing her sing omg Brava
:) wonderful!!!
such perfection.. I mean Mozart.. performance is very good
If everyone sang Mozart like Roschmann does, I'd like Mozart a lot more than I do.
Das war so wunderschön!
Back to back! Goodness me
Rabuel37 Ravishing！
I know, right???? Soectacular!
MARAVILLOSA
Beautiful
Porgi, amor,
qualche ristoro
al mio duolo
a'miei sospir!
O mi rendi
il mio tesoro,
o mi lascia almen morir!
(Grant, love,
some relief
to my sorrow,
to my sighing
Either give me back
my beloved,
or just let me die!)
Brava!!! ❤❤❤🥂
Divinaaaaa!!!!!!
Superbe! intensément ressenti
gorgeous
Geras atlikimas!
E Susanna non vien!
Sono ansiosa di saper
come il Conte accolse la proposta.
Alquanto ardito il progetto mi par,
E ad uno sposo si vivace e geloso!
Ma che mal c'è?
Cangiando i miei vestiti con quelli di Susanna,
E suoi co'miei
Al favor della notte.
Oh, cielo! a qual umil stato fatale
Io son ridotta da un consorte crudel!
Che dopo avermi con un misto inaudito
D'infedeltà, di gelosia, di sdegno!
Prima amata, indi offesa, e alfin tradita,
Fammi or cercar da una mia serva aita!
Aria:
Dove sono i bei momenti
Di dolcezza e di piacer?
Dove andaro i giuramenti
Di quel labbro menzogner?
Perchè mai, se in pianti e in pene
Per me tutto si cangiò,
La memoria di quel bene
Dal mio sen non trapassò?
Ah! se almen la mia costanza,
Nel languire amando ognor,
Mi portasse una speranza
Di cangiar l'ingrato cor!
The voice sung ardently quivers a heart and becomes painful
Gefällt mir. Kann man die Arie auch zu einer Beerdigung spielen?
Brava! There can be no other Contessa.
すてき
Die hat einen Grammy bekommen!😄
Supongo que ésta es la manera moderna de interpretar a Mozart, introduciendo una dinámica, un dramatismo, que en otras épocas se consideraba anatema. A mí, particularmente, Roschmann me gusta por su timbre aunque no me convencen ni su extraña intensidad ni su vibrato. En fin, que la escucho con agrado (no tengo claro si esto es un piropo o una crítica) pero no me produce ni el placer "intelectual" de algunas sopranos técnicamente perfectas ni el "cuasi físico" de otras con voces bellísimas. Por cierto, no consigo encontrar ya en YT la grabación en directo de Dove sono i bei momenti en el MET de VDLA en los años 50. ¿Alguien sabe dónde se puede escuchar/conseguir? Gracias.
1:06
schöne Stimme ohne Klimbim im zu schweren Fach-Gesinge wie Dasch, Damrau, Harteros, .....
Певица очень нравится, поет мягко, свободно, очень музыкально
no one sings this song as beautiful as Gundula Janowitz !!!!!!
wambui37 Ja ! 👍
I always had a problem with Janowitz on recording. Her vibrato was terribly goaty and her tone very boyish. In the theatre I have heard that these qualities were less annoying than on recording . Dorthea has less vibrato issues and a slightly more womanly sound than Janowitz.
V
I really liked her in the Magic Flute and considers her probably the best Pamina I've heard, but here I think both arias are a bit too high for her so it feels like she's forcing some of it and you can hear little cracks, Renee Fleming is better for these two arias; For example listen to Fleming's 1999 Met version, in the second "Dove... Sono" she literally sang it in a whisper, even as the pitch slides upward, which is an indication of superior technique--higher frequency pitch is incredibly difficult to sing softly, but she sang it effortlessly with (and amazingly) continuous even breath and sound. And she even changed it up to scale a even even higher for an emphasis. Here Roschmann had to scale up the loudness as she goes up in pitch which means that she doesn't have as good technique. Fleming also had far better controlled vibrato. One way you can tell quality of singing is by the vibrato, better controlled vibrato which does not compromise the pitch as much (because if you vibrato too much you can sound off-pitch, but lesser singers use that to compensate the effort) and makes their vibrato even, are usually better singers with better technique.
Just listen to Elisabeth Schwarzkopf in those two arias. Even better than Fleming or Te Kanawa! Best Contessa ever - also best Pamina ever! A true Mozart and Richard Strauss singer! No one has ever reached Schwarzkopf in those roles! :D
***** "That being said I don't think volume has that much to do with technique."
LOL, just talk to a wind-instrument musician, it follows the same principle. Ask how difficult it is to play a high-pitched sound in pianissimo mode.
*****
www.singing-tips-with-barbara-lewis.com/singing-high-notes.html
"Singing high notes that are well-controlled and NOT always SHOUTED is a skill that many singers find difficult to acquire.
For those vocalists who only use the belting voice, the highest notes will usually have to be loud or louder!
To sing high notes with control - so that you can CHOOSE your volume level - requires that you use the right MIX of sound. In other words, you must know how to use your head voice."
*****
sorry about sounding condescending. The original post you phrased was so idiotic that that I had to laugh. But obviously now that you explained what you really meant. I take the LOL back.
***** Of course Schwarzkopf sang Pamina on stage! My mother has kept a program in the 1950s where Schwarzkopf sung Pamina (as a guest star) in Basel! As far as I know there is also a recording with Schwarzkopf in German ... ;) czcams.com/video/OVILtUyHCY8/video.html
Wie zo een stem heeft moet in de hemel komen
Wenn sie einmal gut singt, dann singt sie manchmal wirklich sehr gut... aber hier war sie wohl doch froh, "fertig zu haben"
what gue gueeee 😕
un suono...scusate
'cept Fleming...
besser gehts nicht!
Van Nuys.
Van Nuys.
Fleming has done everything though so she could claim any soprano role in the repetoire. :)