Lets fly an owl first person POV! Why we DON'T use anklets and jesses
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- lying and owl from my POV, whilst telling why we don't use anklets and jesses on our birds anymore.
Anklets and jesses have been used in falconry for 100's and 100's of years BUT just because its been done that way in tradition for many years doesn't mean there isnt a better and nicer way to look after and treat the animals under care to give them the best life possible.
When working with animals we should always strive to be better for them and find better ways to help them live more enriched, healthier lives. - Zábava
Hey Tom, just wanted to say that I am loving your channel! 🦉 It's also refreshing to see more collections moving away from using anklets and jesses. I also think it's so important to allow birds to make choices (and hopefully the right ones!) through positive reinforcement. Looking forward to more videos from you!
Yes, i try to avoid anklets with species like owls. I usually only use Jesses during basic training, so i don't end up with a lost bird if something goes wrong. I need anklets just in case i need to hold the bird, otherwise, the hawk is free to do whatever it wants to do in it's aviary all day. All of the hawks i work with are taught to follow on, so the hawk can just follow me in the trees, go a few hundred metres away from me and it'll be fine. BUT, the reason that i lost the kestrel was because It was fed up, and flew off when i was in the process of removing furniture all together. I didn't use a transmitter because the one i have is too heavy and got in the way. Therefore, i believe that anklets are necessary, but the hawk should still be able to do what it wants, as long as it doesn't vanish!
Such a beautiful bird, thanks for the info, looking forward to next upload
Some awesome footage there Tom and interesting info as well. Nice work
Please start posting again
What about with the application of falconry? Without anklets and jesses how do you keep your raptor from going for prey you dont necessarily want?
Absolutely fascinating again Tom! Would love to learn more about how you introduce this to new animals, or is this only effective for those using this technique from birth?
Hey, sounds like a great idea for another video! thank you but this technique we have introduced to animals that have been trained in other ways before and to young animals. The great way of training in this method is that it it revolves around the animals choice and this means they have control and therefore how long it takes to get results is dependant on our training skills and the animals confidence levels.
Nice explanation. Do you not use transmitters on free flying birds?
Absolutely, the only birds we don’t is some of the owls.
@@tomzookeeper why not the owls?
@@eagledaft This was my thought also. I only fly my owls with the anklets on and that's so I can attach the GPS
Hey man, you are a great zoo keeper. But you have a lot potential on CZcams.
Keep up the great work! That’s so nice to see them without anklets! Question, are owls to tough to train for a novice falconer? And are they super needy?
Hi I am in year eight I need to get help because I don’t know what to do to stop you keeping please help me
i keep my hawks on weatherings, so i do need them on a leash! But when they are in the mews, or when they are flying, i remove the jesses
Awesome! You have to figure out what’s best for your facility and your birds but it’s important to always look at ways to improve for their benefit!
I wish this could be a reality though i think very specific requirements would need to be in place for this to actually work. My biggest concern would be something spooking the owl and they take off. Then again, a well manned bird wont go far and will stick around theit favourite human. So to an extent, it does work but for exceptional circumstances rather than the norms.
you look like kon from the sidemen
Very well in a zoo out and about not so good anklets are a must for a falconer and stupid not to have them
Absolutely, everyone needs to make a judgement on what is ultimately safe for the bird! As I said this is why we don't use them. Others may feel its safer for them to use them. But many don't even take a step back and think "is there a better way of doing this for the animal"
Don’t you think the original bird handlers/falconers attempted this at one point? There’s a reason why they brought it back.
As someone who actively flys raptors including GHOs for falconry and education, not having jesses is absolutely out of the question. Absolute 0% chance.
It would result in the death in exactly 100% of the birds flown at some point. Other wild GHOs and raptors, transformers, traffic, you name it. Ive seen countless injuries and deaths because of these kinds of glamorous and trendy techniques used in the field. It’s been done homie.
Even if the bird LOVES your glove, it’ll spook, fly, and die at some point.
So I feel like this video demonstrates faulty/risky logic. This is absolutely not ok to do with any bird being flown to pursue game or in a working abatement scenario (how a bird is actually flown) but you glamorized/encourage this garbage. This video suggests you’ve done something special but tricks your audience into thinking you actually know how to fly a bird and that jesses are a bad thing. Not cool.
But since you’re only flying imprinted pets, it may be ok to do this in this particular “education” facility within its particular and specific environment, but I encourage you to try this no jesses/anklets wearing business in an actual working/hunting environment. Especially a GHO. At night. Then come talk to me about buying some anklets & jesses.
The people coming to your shows and programs may be impressed, but what they don’t know is that It’s dangerous, careless, and irresponsible. It’s stupid.
Sorry to hate. But it’s stupid.
No points given from this direction homie. Watch some of my videos and learn how flying an owl is actually done. All done with positive reinforcement and jesses. The only thing negative is preaching this kind of bullshit.
Hey, so I have been flying birds for around 14 years now. I have flown birds with anklets, jesses and tethering. I have now flown birds without such things.
I said at the start of this video that using anklets and jesses is an acceptable method but not something WE use. The reason we don’t use them is because our facilities allow for them to not be used, e.g all their enclosures are by the area we fly them we fly them in and out of the enclosures instead of having to transport them to an area, we are lucky in that respect. Of course if your taking birds out for hunting or travelling long distances you will likely have jesses, the number one priority is the safety of the bird always!!
I also clearly say at the end this took us a long while to get to this stage and never said that everyone should be doing this with their birds but if people can aim towards it then that would be great.
This isn’t a channel to tell people what to do I never said “you should be doing this” but to show there is other ways of doing things to the “traditional” way and it works for us. Jesses and Anklets and restraints absolutely have a place if required and needed in your setup. Our Setup (location, enclosures flying area etc) they’re not and that’s proven by having done it for the last 6 years in this way.
IAATE (international association of avian trainers and educators) is a good reference point.
I never bad mouthed using Jesses and anklets they are absolutely appropriate in some situations the video was merely made to show what WE do in our facility. It’s not titled nor do I say “this is how you should fly your birds”
Ridiculous and dangerous to say the least! You are free to do what you want,but to use this as an informative and positive approach to the general public is madness!!!!
I explain multiple times throughout the video this is what WE do and why it works for US. I at no point say this if what every person should do. I encourage people to think differently and not just stick with the same old 'we have always done it that way' but i never state this is how everyone should be doing it because that would be irresponsible.
You clearly haven't watched the whole video. Change is scary for people, but we should always be looking for improved better ways to provide our animals with more choice better welfare if our facilities and set ups allow it.
Many zoological collections are moving to this way of care for birds of prey.
However I would never advise a recreational falconer who owns a bird of prey at home to do this. I would have different advice which would be to seriously consider if you should own a bird of prey.
I jabe worked with birds of prey for 15 years I have used traditional methods, and I have moved to this method, I have had far less issues since changing. (Which took 5 years to do wasn't an over night thing).
Your comment clearly comes from a good place of not wanting people to lose there birds. But that's explicitly why I state multiple times this is why WE do it.
your not using anklets or jes because you're playing with pets..basically having a parrot. falconry is the art of "hunting" with a bird of prey..we don't walk through a field or woods constantly throwing food down the birds throat..we're actually hunting. If a Falconer did that their bird would perch in a tree and never come down. stay in your lane