Fools Rush In. 2024 BMW R1250GS Adventure
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
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"I thought I had wee'd a bit." That line right there earned a sub lol. Still on a R1250 GSA and no intentions of moving on anytime soon, it's a fantastic bike.
Hi Jack. I have owned 2 GSA’s 1200 1250 both great bikes. I sold both 😩 and bought a standard GS. However my ‘itch’ was for another GSA, that said i ordered a 1300 triple black at great expense. Now after seeing this video its changed my mind. I don’t want to be a ‘test’ dummy for finding faults. Your reviews are excellent and honest’a rarity’ these days. So off to my dealer-this morning and cancelled my order 🎉 and reordered a 1250 GSA triple black low ride, for £5.000 less than i was going to spend . You’re right the discounts offered are very very good currently. I want tried and tested bike not be a tester fault finder. I am well pleased thanks for posting. Good stuff 👍
That’s a hell of a saving. You could buy a couple of the old Himalayans with the difference. And by the time you’re ready for a new bike the second generation of 1300 GS should be available 👍🏍️
I have a 1250gsa love it, great bike and road presence triple black 👌
Great stuff jack enjoyed that and your trip around notts centre which was a trip down memory lane for me. 👍🏻
Thanks Notts buddy 👍🏍️😆
What a great review. I moved to a GSA from a GS , both Triple Blacks, at the end of last year.
I loved my GS and I agree with you that it’s the better looking bike. I also agree with you on the brakes, Hayes V Brembo.
I can’t feel a lot of difference between the two other than a little taller and spaying your legs a little more. I’ve yet to do a two up tour on the GSA and I think the more roomy passenger area maybe an advantage. Did amuse me at the weekend, filled up first thing , did a 280 miles day and had 60 miles left in the tank when I got home.
Yeah, I miss that range. Makes for easy riding with less fuel anxiety 👍
As a long time GSA rider, I have watched just about every video of the 1300, then saw it in person, sat on it, was offered a demo ride, then an extended demo ride, and had zero interest in doing either. Notably, I have a great relationship with my local Motorrad dealer.
I’ll wait a few more months, until after the 1300 GSA is announced, and when BMW decides that they need to offload their 1250 GSA overstock. At least in the USA, after the stop sale, they have quite a few 1250’s sitting around. This should be a great time to get a decent discount, while my current GSA isn’t losing a lot of value any longer. It’s bottomed out on depreciation.
Unless BMW absolutely hits a home run with the 1300 GSA, which is doubtful given the 1300 GS, the 1250 GSA will be my final rendition of the BMW adventure line.
When I took this one back I parked it next to the 1300. The GSA looked so much better, so much more substantial. The 1300 looked very ‘average’ in comparison.
I just sold my Triple Black GSA. Had it for a year and lots of good memories, but fully loaded with luggage and a full tank of fuel with the Mrs on the back it was just too heavy. Had serious anxiety coming to a stop sometimes. Never dropped it but the fear was always there! On my own it was totally fine though.
I really don’t know how you managed one with a pillion. Great bike but the weight would put me off.
Easy solution. The Mrs. 😂😂😂
@@expatbiker6598 😂😂
@@expatbiker6598 I’m not going anywhere near that particular argument! That’s why I’ve lived so long! 🙄😆😂👍
Me too
I was given a new 1300gs as a courtesy bike when I took my 1250 in for warranty work, no danger I’d spend the money on one, the 1250 is a far better looking bike and every bit as capable. I’m looking to order a new 24 plate1250gs while they’re still available.
Make sure you get a good deal 👍👍👍🏍️
Arh it’s bloody great to have you back , new gs1300 loaded up to max 24k wow eh
That’s pretty mental isn’t it?
Great vlog Jack, 👍
Thanks Andrew. I felt a bit rusty after not doing reviews for so long 👍
@@motomogul no spot on pal 👍
Great video. 1250 is a good machine.
Sir, what a fantastic bike, the sound is just so enjoyable. Love mine and it takes me wherever I ask her to take me. The MABDR is one of my favorite routes to ride on it. Had the opportunity to get the 1300, and I didn’t just because it didn’t feel as comfortable as my 1250, my humble opinion. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks buddy. Your humble opinion is just as valid as anyone else’s. You clearly love your bike and to me, that is what is important, not jumping on the next big thing just because it’s there! ❤️🏍️👍
Love u vids hope you well
I’m good thanks Tomo. Hope you’re well too? 👍
I love my GS best thing I did get rid of GSA too heavy
Great video Jack. Fully agree with you about the tech overload. Think a lot of the bike journo’s are to blame myself. I had a normal GS screen on my GSA, didn’t like the mahoosive screen!! You certainly look comfortable on it! Thank you👍
Thanks Dave. I don’t like the look of the screen but it’s very effective 👍
Your a rare 1 it seems Jack,Since your opinion on these huge capacity fuel tanks is something I've not heard from anyone on CZcams before! 😮
I totally 100% agree with you you though & think a 200 mile range is ample & IMO them crotch rocket style bikes that get 100 miles from a tank are utterly pointless! 🤣😂👍
Cheers for sharing mate & hope your doing well these days! 😎✌️
I don’t have a filter on my brain half the time 🙄 I tend to just say what I’m thinking, which can upset some people. Check out the last comment exchange on the Triumph 660 Tiger to see what I mean.
Thanks for the comments though, at least you get what I’m on about 😂🏍️👍
Couldn't agree more with what you have said about the GSA. It's a bike that suits my needs over the years, do you need more power? I certainly don't. I have just traded my 2 year old Triple Black 1250 for a new Triple Black 1250 GSA, I wasn't looking to change just yet, but the deal was too good to say no too. Low cost finance available, new 3 year warranty, plus other incentives, it was a no brainer!!
When the new GSA comes out later this year it will come with the associated price tag, and personally I have reached the limit of what I want to spend on a motorbike.
I think a lot of people will double take the price tag. Approaching £25k for a 1300 fully loaded to the same spec as my GS is easily over £10k more than I could afford.
I really dislike at the moment, the mentality of the bike manufacturers to keep inventing stuff and convincing people that they need it on a bike. I don’t use half the stuff on mine. They’d be better off making what’s already there better. Backlit switch gear and Apple CarPlay rather than the BMW app and connectivity.
Personally, I never connect my phone to my bike, it’s such a rubbish system.
@@motomogul Couldn't agree with you more, yes backlit switch gear would be nice on a bike of this quality, but in reality I only do about 2 night rides a year. As for adaptive cruise control, when I have to have a bike control my distance from the vehicle in front I will pack in riding, standard cruise control is good enough for me. I do like the idea of blind spot detection though, it's an extra safety feature on our busy roads, but I will manage without it for now.
@@motomogul It is terrible. I connect my phone to my Garmin Zumo XT2, I play music and take calls through there, a much better system. Lots of reviews screaming for backlit switch gear and while that would be nifty, most of us don't ride at night so I see very little real world use for it, at least for those of us not riding in the dark.
@@texlee1640 I just watched Fortnine’s review on it last night. I thought that explains it perfectly.
Hi Jack, great video. When I brought my GSA and KTM Adventure, both with 30 l tanks, I decided that I would only fill the tank when touring and keep the weight down. It never worked had to fill it up every time and loved the fuel range regardless of where I was riding. The only time the full tank made a significant difference was when trying to ride fast on very slow and twisty roads, nearly all the types of road it felt perfectly ok. These days I am riding a Harley touring bike so the weight of the of a big adventure bike would probably feel insignificant. It's all about what you get used to.
It is a lot to do with getting used to the bike characteristics and the weight, but to me it just feels way too heavy when you’re trying to manoeuvre it around manually for me to want to live with. My GS feels exactly right for me.
That’s not to take anything away from the GSA. It’s superb and super comfortable. For someone a bit taller than me, I’m only 5’8” on a very good day, even though this was a lowered version of the bike, it still felt like I would do a lot of struggling with a full tank. That’s before loading up for a trip.
I think I made the right choice with my GS. Superb bike and it fits me perfectly. Which is possibly why I just don’t see anything to replace it with when I look at the current bike market 🤷🏼♂️🏍️👍
nice one jack great blog, i have ridden the GS1300 great bike 2 things put me off , 1 the price & 2 the indicators are in the hand guards which if you just dropped it at low speed could be very expensive to replace, 😊
I’m yet to ride one. They offered me one but chose the GSA simply because every man and his dog are reviewing them 😂😂
Just picked up my new one, better deal than a 1300 :)
Enjoy your new bike Andrew 👍
I had a R1150GSA for 20 odd years and loved it. I went in to buy a 1300, but when I saw it in the flesh, I didnt like it, it has lost all the quirky lines on the 1250 and looked rather cheap and plasticky. I looked at a new 1250GSA, but a 1250 GS Ultimate in triple black caught my eye and I bought that. I am 67 and just don't need something as big and heavy as the GSA with a full tank, the 1250 GS is just right!
You just nailed my thoughts on the 1300. I too have a 1250GS and absolutely love it. Certainly won’t be going down the route of the 1300 👎
We must be twins! I too am a 67 year old GS Triple Black rider! Best (all round) bike I've owned in over 50 years of riding.
@@abudhabidel1 And I hope you have many more happy riding years ahead of you too Derek. That’s what I’m hoping for anyway 😂🏍️👍
problems ironed out !! LOL ask a BMW engineer and they'll tell you they were better built years ago and I agree cos I've had loads currently the 1250gs Rallye Just be sure not to void your warranty (That said BMW warranty is very good)
I too have a rallye gs. Great bike 👍
There are amazing deals to be had. I got £2,500 off the list price for a brand new one.
Nice one. Enjoy your new bike 🏍️ 👍👍👍
I was in the market for a GS in March 23, I was looking for a GSA ex demo or very low mileage but…….
BMW dealers were just not prepared to move on the price for a cash buyer, so there must be strong residuals on these boxer twins. Ended up with a Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Pro, it’s a nice bike, has its faults but the sweetener was the deal I just couldn’t refuse. On balance though the GS is the better bike, but it’s probably not quite as exciting on the road if you’re a fast rider (which I’m not 🤣).
Enjoyed the vid 👍
The residuals were good but not sure what they’re going to be like in the future. That’s the only downside of buying an older model when a new one comes out 🤷🏼♂️
Im in the same situation - Cash buyer.. As soon as you tell a bmw dealer your not interested in finance, suddenly you don't exsist and don't even bother to reply let alone accommodate any sort of deal, starting to regret selling my multistrada 1260s
BMW R 1250 GS Adventure TE full tank range is 250 miles per tank as a commuter.
Are you doing that on the back wheel? Sounds a bit low 🤔😂👍🏍️
A lot of people are now rating the old R1250GS/GSA as still the best bike on the road.Many are finding problems and niggles with the new 1300GS.Guess some things are best left alone.Still...look forward to the new GSA..lets hope they sort the negatives out on the 1300
Yeah, hopefully they’ll have sorted a lot of issues by then. I’d still wait for the second generation though, and then I’d still buy second hand. Hope it’s better looking than the 1300 GS. I’m really not impressed by that at all.
I think you dserve a gsa jack , go on treat yourself 😂
I’m just too happy with my GS Jim. The only bike I can see to take the place of that is the RS, but it’s more or less the same bike, so no point to that really.
Good vid Jack. Never really been a fan of the gs. But as a road bike. Maybe. They do sound nice. Well that one just.
I’m not really getting on with that Rebel.
And not really sure if I’d pay this much for a bike. Although I had been looking at the rocket. Which is also above £20000…
When I saw yours last. I also quite likes the look of that too..
Who knows.
But yeah.. great video. Great review… 👍👍
Thanks buddy. They’re not everyone’s cup of tea and certainly not a looker but they are great to ride and make life on the road really simple.
I love the Rocket but they’d be hard work to live with. 👍
Great bike, I had a 2019, but just too big for me and heavy, 265kg wet! That’s before you add full hard luggage which can take it over 300kg😬
Absolutely. I felt the weight once or twice. 👍
@@motomogul Dropped it three times, with luggage I needed help🤣😢
@@IanTed 😂😂😂
LOVE my 22 1250 GS TB... Put 4600 miles on it in just the last month. I regularly get 50 MPG. I just don't sweat the range... Not only is the 1250 a much better looking bike than the 1300, the GS is better looking than the GSA... GSAs look like lumbering camels...
The GS is way better looking 👍👍👍
Not worth it, all that technology is good until you have to go maintenance. African Twin with basic tools you make the maintenance, have fun and save a lot of money.
Ohhh. That pick up after changing the battery on the 360…
It looks heavy. Is that heavier than yours then ??
Definitely. Although, I didn’t really notice it until that point. It did have only a quarter tank of fuel too. I think I would have really struggled to get her upright with a full tank. That was only a slight road camber too.
Can you imagine if you dropped it ? 🤦♂️
@@motomogul yeah that’s the problem. My brother has the ATAS. You know he has never filled the tank on it. I had the L ( Standard ) that was heavy enough. Mark has dropped his twice, but was fully loaded with panniers. At 0 mph… I think I’d have to go and see it myself
I have a GSA and just put 600miles on it at the weekend touring the lakes and York dales. Great bike for all roads. Although, I was riding down the A1 m near Selby in the fast lane, 6th gear and suddenly no throttle response! Couldn't change down a gear and had to clutch it and drift to the hard shoulder! A lot of beeps and angry faces but luckily didn't get run over. Stopped it and started it again and fine for the rest of the trip home? Anyone got any ideas? I'm calling BMW today.
Bloody hell! That must have been a scary moment? I’ve not heard of anything happening with the bike in motion before. There will be an error code when they interrogate the bikes computer system, be interested to know what it was when you find out, I’ll include it in a future video.
Glad you’re still around to comment. Just shows how overloading bikes with tech can lead to ‘never event’ incidents like these.
@@motomogul Appreciate it . Yeah no error codes showed up just SOS not working which it has had for a while. Got 1st service next week currently on 632 miles. Yeah was lucky it was Sunday and everyone at home enjoying the sun so it wasn't too busy. Maybe a loose connection to the throttle or something go knows but hopefully they will sort it or it won't happen again. Maybe a gremlin as new, but not a good gremlin, glad I wasn't approaching a fast bend !
@@mikealls8938 Everything is controlled by computer chips now, surprised we don’t hear of more similar issues.
Got rid of my 1250gsa in February and bought a fjr1300 2002, love the old bike, gsa just not exciting at all
They’re definitely not for everyone. I was out with a friend yesterday who owns an fjr1300, he bloody loves it too. He was out on his GSA yesterday though! 🤔🏍️😂
Oh no. Yeah I agree. A self driving bike.. what’s the point ???
The fun in riding a bike is riding a bike..
The only use I can see for that is. That it comes to meet you at the door. Warmed up and ready to go… that’s it.. 😂
BMW….. Save your money. Nobody wants it. !!!
Still won't trade my 2017 1200GSA for the 1300 GS
Trade up to a 1250 if for nothing more than the brilliant tft .
i want a GS but nobody wants to buy me one :( i'll get one eventually ;)
There are some tight bastards around aren’t there? 🤔😆🏍️
@@motomogul Yea 🤣😂
"I cannot be bothered with the pissing contest between manufacturers."
Best moto-journo line I've heard in years. I mean Blackbird, Hayabusa, ZX-12 years.
Let KTM and Ducati have their big numbers fight. The GS doesn't need to go down that road to remain relevant, it's been around longer than all of them combined.
Yeah! Not very professional was it? 😉😂👍
@@motomogul It's just refreshing to hear someone being honest.
I think you don’t really know what you’re talking about.
Yes the 1250 is a great bike , But the 1300 hasnt just got a bigger engine it’s a totally new bike , New engine , new gearbox new chassis , lighter & new suspension & brakes.
The 1250 production has stopped & the new bike is the 1300.
There are no good deals to be had at the moment the cheapest R1250 GSA TE I could find anywhere brand new was £18,400 & the cheapest R1300 GS TE I could find was £18,200
So you can actually get the newer bike cheaper if you pay cash & the newer bike has a few more things as standard.
And I like the idea of the electric suspension going down at slow speeds eg below 15 mph , no need to buy low chassis GS.
To sum up the only thing bmw is doing is different between the 1300 & 1250 price wise is the out old 1250 finance package eg PCP deal the old GD they are doing a 2.9% April deal or £1200 towards panniers.
To me this isnt such a great deal as the old 1250 price will plummet compared to the new 1300