I saw this band at the Royal Festival Hall London in '82 or '83 - it made my hairs stand on the back of my neck ... afterwards Herbie invited anyone from audience to come backstage if they wanted- the vibe was incredible.. Wynton was at an upright in one of the practise rooms off the main artist suite and was demonstrating stuff informally friendly on the piano like ' this is what Herbie plays for Bb7 altered' ... one of most amazing summer evenings of my life ... 40 years ago !
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To Ron Carter, bassist. Your appreciation "to keep this great music alive" (January 6, 2021). This is the reason why I, his sister, kept opened Réjean's account. Sadly Réjean is no more with us since summer 2017. He was a passionate drummer.
Miles made a comment back in the eighties, that that CURRENT TIME, was so different from the 60's, if you tried to go back and play THAT ERA'S MUSIC...the FEELING WOULD NOT BE THE SAME. MAke NEW MUSIC. For THIS DAY, and THIS TIME. Miles was CORRECT, as He frequently was speaking about MUSIC.
Whenever I see him, and whomever he's playing with, Tony Williams always knocks me out! Miles Davis was right when he said a talent like Tony's comes along every 50 years, ...actually it's been longer than that, tremendous!
Tony is definitely one of the most eccentric jazz drummers ever. Who else would show up to acoustic jazz gig with a huge bright yellow kit in "rock" sizes with black dots, 2B sticks, heavy cymbals and a sleevless jumpsuit when the other guys are wearing suits :D Truly one of a kind player.
I recorded this from PBS when it aired. I was 13 years old and played trumpet in band, and Wynton was one of my heroes. I didn't completely understand this music then, but I knew I loved what I heard. My Mom thought it was a great improvement over the Heavy Metal I'd been listening to up to that point. This one performance, which I revisited on that VHS tape for the rest of my life, changed my life. I began the journey back through the histories of these musicians, and discovered the Miles Davis albums of the 1960's (which was a whole OTHER world), with Hancock, Carter, and Williams on them, solely because of this one performance. Thank you, Rejean Emond, for posting this in its entirety! Pure fire.
I love how they Soli from Sister Cheryl to Hesitation. They unfortunately discontinued the Tony Williams signature sticks several years ago. I bought up as many as I could find, they’re my favorite hickory drum sticks.
This does appear to be indoor and not at the Chicago Jazz Festival, where they also played. What venue was across the street from 1960 Lincoln Park West? This clearly isn't the Park West club.
There with a few buddies. Back when that Chicago Jazz Fest was truly something remarkable. 7 days, all free, with some of the biggest names in jazz, truly covering it from dixieland to free jazz, and looking out of Chicago's beautiful Michigan Avenue at night. During a rare time of year when Chicago's weather was usually real reliable, late August, early September
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Response to Aidan Doyle concerning the title of the first song on this album (May 15) : « The Sorcerer ». It is the title of the 1967 album of Miles Davis' quintet with Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter and Tony Williams.
Wow!! What an amazing view of Tony's right hand technique at 29:01. This is the same hi-hat pattern he played on the fusion song called Fred, except this is much faster! 😃💪🙌
He kinda (was) back then. Whatever choices he made to make his brilliant debut album "Black Codes from the Underground " were the ones I liked but "everything" else I've heard kinda didn't work for me.
What's more phenomenal, the rhythm section creating like one composer, or the winds seamlessly adding to what is fundamentally flawless? The audience seems stunned, their applause is rightfully subdued.
I agree. I never heard him play with such a clear message. On the one hand his phrasing pays respect to Miles Davis, but he adds a clear penchant for classical precision. It works really well. Perhaps too many distractions of certain conquests and his beef with the former which attests to the need to conquer some kind of checklist. The former built a fortress of music itself.
Perfection at its best. Musicians who exceed the limits of the imaginable. Interpretive purity difficult to achieve. What more could you want? La perfección en su máxima expresión. Músicos que sobrepasan los límites de lo imaginable. Pureza interpretativa difícil de alcanzar. ¿Qué más se puede pedir?
Like a previous poster commented: it had been done 20 years earlier and it was authentic when Miles did the chromaticism thing on Miles Smiles. Nobody can argue that Wynton isn't technically proficient and a stellar trumpet player, but the chromaticism, the articulation, minus all the 1/2 valve glissando's are just trumpet bravado. And then in the 90's Wallace Roney came along and did the same thing. After one tune, it wears on you. No musical surprises. In '82, Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw, Chet Baker, Art Farmer, Donald Byrd were all still around, playing in top form but Wynton got the media. Younger players in high school were taken by Wynton's trumpet bravado, but missed the lack of melodic genius that the fore mentioned players were still showcasing that was a style all their own After you get over that's Herbie, Ron and Tony, all playing great, the total package comes off as just a repeat.
While Muhammad Ali was in exile and we didn't know if he'd ever be allowed to professionally box again, Bruce Lee said Ali is the future of boxing. Tony Williams has crossed over to rest with his Ancestors and he is the future of drumming.
OK I interviewed Branford once on that and that's not *quite* how it went down. He said that after a few stops on the tour, Ron Carter told him (I'm quoting from memory after many years here), "You know, it's really great that you idolize us and you have all our records. But we hired you to play, and so far you guys ain't playing shit." That kind of pushed them out of their shells.
@@inklesswells really interesting ! I’m personally not surprised about that considering the unique flavour of the VSOP quintet. Coming after Freddy Hubbard and Wayne Shorter wasn’t an easy task even for the great Marsalis brothers... and you can tell the alchemy is not the same! Actually I find Branford better here than Wynton...
Many thanks to the producers in Chicago for the capture and thanks for this post. and thanks to Brent Madsen for updating me with good news, praise be..
Good catch. It did appear on a Ron Carter album (on Etudes, under the title Doctor's Row) but it's the only original on the album that Ron didn't write. Showed up later on some Tony albums as Arboretum.
Thanks so much for posting. Saw this same tour in Ft. Lauderdale. Opening act was steps ahead with Brecker and Erskine. One of the best concerts I’ve ever seen. Everybody was smoking!
Just ridiculous talent and so young, both. It's uncommon to make a concert hall yelp with joy as Wynton made them do like it was a night club! Best total trumpet player ever. . standing on the shoulders of the giants.
Uh...you're forgetting People like Lee Morgan, Clifford Brown, Roy Eldridge and Dizzy Gillespie, who WOULD EAT HIM ALIVE. WERE THEY STILL HERE WITH US. Stop talking. Keep listening.
To me toni Williams was the 1st to play straight ahead with a contemporary feel he was playing that shit on a ROCK AND ROLL drumset with big ass 2B drumsticks 🥁 😅 "FAST AS FUCK" ijs WHO DOES THAT??!!
I VHS recorded this from PBS when it first aired. They were all on fire that night in Chicago. Anyone know if this is or has ever been commercially available in the last 30+ years?
hey Walter, so this band(minus Branford) did release a studio album titled Quartet. i believe it's a Herbie Hancock release from columbia records in 1982. It's got a great track called a quick sketch. I'm not sure if it's still in print but maybe someone uploaded it on youtube.
Hi Mark yes I purchased the quartet LP when was first released and also the CD some years later. I also saw VSOP ll live a couple of times. Once on a bill with Miles and later in Saratoga. Joe Henderson was Playing tenor on that gig.
As far as I knew, the second tune is not Doctor's Row, but "Arboretum", by Tony Williams. Does anybody know which is it? (czcams.com/video/xHWbHbvH0IA/video.html)
@ Thank you. Wanna see something weird - czcams.com/video/cJ6b78Ggj7E/video.html - somebody is trying to confuse us.
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Irrk ! Yet one year later : Then 1986 : In Wikipedia, the track listing for Études of Ron Carter : "Last Resort" "Bottoms Up" "Arboretum" (Tony Williams) ! "Rufus" "Echoes" "Doctor's Row" (Williams)
VSOP was really cooking and Wynton Marsalis what is the main chef. This music was so far ahead of its time in 1982; still rings, true and groovy today.🎶🦾💕🙏🏾❤️
I saw this band at the Royal Festival Hall London in '82 or '83 - it made my hairs stand on the back of my neck ... afterwards Herbie invited anyone from audience to come backstage if they wanted- the vibe was incredible.. Wynton was at an upright in one of the practise rooms off the main artist suite and was demonstrating stuff informally friendly on the piano like ' this is what Herbie plays for Bb7 altered' ... one of most amazing summer evenings of my life ... 40 years ago !
To Ron Carter, bassist. Your appreciation "to keep this great music alive" (January 6, 2021).
This is the reason why I, his sister, kept opened Réjean's account. Sadly Réjean is no more with us since summer 2017. He was a passionate drummer.
Sad to hear. Being a fan of Tony Williams I really enjoyed his video postings!
This is marvellous. Very many thanks.
Miles made a comment back in the eighties, that that CURRENT TIME, was so different from the 60's, if you tried to go back and play THAT ERA'S MUSIC...the FEELING WOULD NOT BE THE SAME. MAke NEW MUSIC. For THIS DAY, and THIS TIME. Miles was CORRECT, as He frequently was speaking about MUSIC.
Whenever I see him, and whomever he's playing with, Tony Williams always knocks me out! Miles Davis was right when he said a talent like Tony's comes along every 50 years, ...actually it's been longer than that, tremendous!
i vote ronald bruner jr.
Tony is definitely one of the most eccentric jazz drummers ever.
Who else would show up to acoustic jazz gig with a huge bright yellow kit in "rock" sizes with black dots, 2B sticks, heavy cymbals and a sleevless jumpsuit when the other guys are wearing suits :D
Truly one of a kind player.
I recorded this from PBS when it aired. I was 13 years old and played trumpet in band, and Wynton was one of my heroes. I didn't completely understand this music then, but I knew I loved what I heard. My Mom thought it was a great improvement over the Heavy Metal I'd been listening to up to that point. This one performance, which I revisited on that VHS tape for the rest of my life, changed my life. I began the journey back through the histories of these musicians, and discovered the Miles Davis albums of the 1960's (which was a whole OTHER world), with Hancock, Carter, and Williams on them, solely because of this one performance. Thank you, Rejean Emond, for posting this in its entirety! Pure fire.
Thank you for that testimony. We are all blessed to witness the record laid down when musical gods walked among us mere mortals. Give thanks.
@@mharm1017 As of my typing this, four of the five Musical Gods still walk among us!
@@christophercharles9645 Again, Give Thanks!
We are lucky couse we love jazz music!
I love how they Soli from Sister Cheryl to Hesitation. They unfortunately discontinued the Tony Williams signature sticks several years ago. I bought up as many as I could find, they’re my favorite hickory drum sticks.
I was at this show! Lived across the street at 1960 Lincoln Park West. WOW
sweet! any other memories from attending?
@@thecandyman9308 lucky dude!
This does appear to be indoor and not at the Chicago Jazz Festival, where they also played. What venue was across the street from 1960 Lincoln Park West? This clearly isn't the Park West club.
I saw these guys on the same tour but in NYC. They opened for Miles...I am still not over it....
I miss my dad. We would soak this stuff up; sit in silence, just us two, listening for hours. We saw them when they were starting with Art Blakey.
Play Him some Good Tunes. On purpose. He'll join U for another listen.
There with a few buddies. Back when that Chicago Jazz Fest was truly something remarkable. 7 days, all free, with some of the biggest names in jazz, truly covering it from dixieland to free jazz, and looking out of Chicago's beautiful Michigan Avenue at night. During a rare time of year when Chicago's weather was usually real reliable, late August, early September
Response to Aidan Doyle concerning the title of the first song on this album (May 15) : « The Sorcerer ». It is the title of the 1967 album of Miles Davis' quintet with Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter and Tony Williams.
Tony is the wind and the rain.
Wow!! What an amazing view of Tony's right hand technique at 29:01. This is the same hi-hat pattern he played on the fusion song called Fred, except this is much faster! 😃💪🙌
Wynton Marsalis is AWESOME!!!!
Wynton Marsalis is just captivating!!!
He kinda (was) back then. Whatever choices he made to make his brilliant debut album "Black Codes from the Underground " were the ones I liked but "everything" else I've heard kinda didn't work for me.
Relax folks! With Marsalis brothers on command and that rhythm section whatsoever thing in the universe will be in good hands.
Wynton Marsalis, is awesome ,wow
Wow. Although a big fan of the original VSOP album, didn't even know this existed! Will make for some great house cleaning music this afternoon.
What's more phenomenal, the rhythm section creating like one composer, or the winds seamlessly adding to what is fundamentally flawless? The audience seems stunned, their applause is rightfully subdued.
wow! Wynton is playing out of his mind, all of them all of course, but Wynton like Ive never heard before, unreal phrasing
I agree. I never heard him play with such a clear message. On the one hand his phrasing pays respect to Miles Davis, but he adds a clear penchant for classical precision. It works really well. Perhaps too many distractions of certain conquests and his beef with the former which attests to the need to conquer some kind of checklist. The former built a fortress of music itself.
Thought the same thing. His phrasing is extremely similar to miles in the late 60s
An outstanding performance from this 5 star band. Thanks very much for this excellent viewing.
Perfection at its best. Musicians who exceed the limits of the imaginable. Interpretive purity difficult to achieve. What more could you want?
La perfección en su máxima expresión. Músicos que sobrepasan los límites de lo imaginable. Pureza interpretativa difícil de alcanzar. ¿Qué más se puede pedir?
Like a previous poster commented: it had been done 20 years earlier and it was authentic when Miles did the chromaticism thing on Miles Smiles. Nobody can argue that Wynton isn't technically proficient and a stellar trumpet player, but the chromaticism, the articulation, minus all the 1/2 valve glissando's are just trumpet bravado. And then in the 90's Wallace Roney came along and did the same thing. After one tune, it wears on you. No musical surprises. In '82, Freddie Hubbard, Woody Shaw, Chet Baker, Art Farmer, Donald Byrd were all still around, playing in top form but Wynton got the media. Younger players in high school were taken by Wynton's trumpet bravado, but missed the lack of melodic genius that the fore mentioned players were still showcasing that was a style all their own After you get over that's Herbie, Ron and Tony, all playing great, the total package comes off as just a repeat.
Amen!
HISTÓRICO GRUPO, TREMENDOS MUSICOS DE JAZZ!!!
TONY WILLIAMS WAS THE MACK DADDY OF DRUMMERS!!!!!
While Muhammad Ali was in exile and we didn't know if he'd ever be allowed to professionally box again, Bruce Lee said Ali is the future of boxing. Tony Williams has crossed over to rest with his Ancestors and he is the future of drumming.
Intensely wonderful
WAIT!!!! Lets talk about that Marseillis ending of Sister Cheryl... that horn duet!!!!!
uffffffff son LA base ritmica !!
TREMENDO GRUPO!!!
Who on the Planet Earth could possibly give this thumbs down? SMFH
The Marsalis brothers were pretty awesome back then -totally unfazed in the distinguished company of Tony, Herbie and Ron-a great upload!
OK I interviewed Branford once on that and that's not *quite* how it went down. He said that after a few stops on the tour, Ron Carter told him (I'm quoting from memory after many years here), "You know, it's really great that you idolize us and you have all our records. But we hired you to play, and so far you guys ain't playing shit." That kind of pushed them out of their shells.
@@inklesswells wow. And ouch. But wow.
@@inklesswells where can I find that interview?
Yes this interview sound extremely interesting!!
@@inklesswells really interesting ! I’m personally not surprised about that considering the unique flavour of the VSOP quintet. Coming after Freddy Hubbard and Wayne Shorter wasn’t an easy task even for the great Marsalis brothers... and you can tell the alchemy is not the same! Actually I find Branford better here than Wynton...
Sheer Brilliance
WOOOOOOW!
Wynton and all are phenomenal!
Amazing stuff
Many thanks to the producers in Chicago for the capture and thanks for this post.
and thanks to Brent Madsen for updating me with good news, praise be..
Excellence can not be Graded !
Track list:
The Sorcerer (Hancock)
Doctor's Row (Carter)
Well, You Needn't (Monk)
Sister Cheryl (Williams)
Hesitation (Marsalis)
Ethan Iverson actually, Doctor’s row ( Aboretum ) was Composed by Tony,
Good catch. It did appear on a Ron Carter album (on Etudes, under the title Doctor's Row) but it's the only original on the album that Ron didn't write. Showed up later on some Tony albums as Arboretum.
Man, this is fantastic.
Thanks so much for posting. Saw this same tour in Ft. Lauderdale. Opening act was steps ahead with Brecker and Erskine. One of the best concerts I’ve ever seen. Everybody was smoking!
Them cats are on fire...
👍❣️ Saluti dall'Italia ❣️
Just ridiculous talent and so young, both. It's uncommon to make a concert hall yelp with joy as Wynton made them do like it was a night club!
Best total trumpet player ever. . standing on the shoulders of the giants.
Uh...you're forgetting People like Lee Morgan, Clifford Brown, Roy Eldridge and Dizzy Gillespie, who WOULD EAT HIM ALIVE. WERE THEY STILL HERE WITH US. Stop talking. Keep listening.
You obviously never heard These Players...they INVENTED Trumpet Pyrotechnics!
@@callmemonkh9020 Absolutely! Love them all, room for everybody
The quintet is on fire & cooking at a zillion degrees c
Yes!!
Ron, always on something....
Well You Needn't is blowing my mind!!!! That's Wynton for you, with no small touch of Hubbardisms added!!!!
Damn!! Wynton can blow
jheez, what happened to Wynton, he sire dont play like this anymore! Killer performance.
To me toni Williams was the 1st to play straight ahead with a contemporary feel he was playing that shit on a ROCK AND ROLL drumset with big ass 2B drumsticks 🥁 😅 "FAST AS FUCK" ijs WHO DOES THAT??!!
Why would Keith Jarrett say that "he's never heard any Marsalis swing"?
Keith isn’t known for being nice or sincere
Jelly
I don't know why they hate on Wynton, he's really helped jazz continue
I VHS recorded this from PBS when it first aired. They were all on fire that night in Chicago. Anyone know if this is or has ever been commercially available in the last 30+ years?
hey Walter, so this band(minus Branford) did release a studio album titled Quartet. i believe it's a Herbie Hancock release from columbia records in 1982. It's got a great track called a quick sketch. I'm not sure if it's still in print but maybe someone uploaded it on youtube.
Hi Mark yes I purchased the quartet LP when was first released and also the CD some years later. I also saw VSOP ll live a couple of times. Once on a bill with Miles and later in Saratoga. Joe Henderson was Playing tenor on that gig.
It really should be remastered, released and synced to video. A great internet find though, thanks!
日本にも来たね🎵
ウィントンだね‼️
barely street legal
As far as I knew, the second tune is not Doctor's Row, but "Arboretum", by Tony Williams. Does anybody know which is it? (czcams.com/video/xHWbHbvH0IA/video.html)
Yes, it is Arboretum of Tony Williams.
@ Thank you. Wanna see something weird - czcams.com/video/cJ6b78Ggj7E/video.html - somebody is trying to confuse us.
Irrk ! Yet one year later :
Then 1986 :
In Wikipedia, the track listing for Études of Ron Carter :
"Last Resort"
"Bottoms Up"
"Arboretum" (Tony Williams) !
"Rufus"
"Echoes"
"Doctor's Row" (Williams)
@ Hi, Réjean sister. Sorry to hear about your brother. Yes, they swapped the titles, that's all.
Thank you, Alexandre, for your empathy. Jacqueline.
31:13
wynton plays great but is not that band.
VSOP was really cooking and Wynton Marsalis what is the main chef. This music was so far ahead of its time in 1982; still rings, true and groovy today.🎶🦾💕🙏🏾❤️