The "Old Money" British Family Who Rules The Aristocrats: The Howard Dynasty (Dukes of Norfolk)

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @oldmoneyluxury
    @oldmoneyluxury  Před 2 měsíci +4

    Which aristocratic British family would you like us to feature next on this channel?

    • @MaanTy-qm7lk
      @MaanTy-qm7lk Před 2 měsíci +2

      Can you do the family of Fitzjames Stuart,

    • @tiomoidofangle102
      @tiomoidofangle102 Před 2 měsíci

      Maitland.

    • @user-vb2kp1lw9d
      @user-vb2kp1lw9d Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Earls & Duke's of Sutherland.. please

    • @user-vb2kp1lw9d
      @user-vb2kp1lw9d Před 2 měsíci

      Particularly the 2nd Duke & how his 10 daughter's turbo charged the families influence on British nobility

    • @BayTampaBay
      @BayTampaBay Před 2 měsíci

      The Dukes and Earls of Portland then the Dukes of Bedford

  • @LJB103
    @LJB103 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Let's go to the seamier side. How about a video on Alexander Charles David Drogo Montagu, 13th Duke of Manchester?

  • @titizroyal8669
    @titizroyal8669 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It is an interesting historical documentation. Thank you so much.

  • @cameonet
    @cameonet Před 2 měsíci +1

    Re: Chapter 4 - The 16th Duke of Norfolk, Bernard Marmaduke Fitzalan-Howard -
    I knew nothing about His Grace or the family's extraordinary history until watching your exquisite video. However, I do have a few short questions:
    1) Who wrote this brilliant piece?
    2) Who eloquently narrated it?
    3) If Bernard was only 9 years old when obtaining the titles *16th Duke of Norfolk & Earl Marshal*, who was his "regent" before he came of age (18)?

  • @AnnCronin-ds6pu
    @AnnCronin-ds6pu Před 20 dny

    Love this narrator

  • @alora9829
    @alora9829 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Do one about Britain's richest family , Hinduja family recently seen in news. I know it's a old money channel but how they are considered old money in britian in such a short span of time.

  • @jilltagmorris
    @jilltagmorris Před 2 měsíci +3

    The guy that just had a big wedding that William attended. And all the Harry drama around it. I can't think of the name. But I'd love to know his history!

    • @315poyee
      @315poyee Před 2 měsíci +4

      Hugh Grosvenor, The Duke of Westminster

    • @oldmoneyluxury
      @oldmoneyluxury  Před 2 měsíci +1

      The “Old Money” British Family That Owns Half Of London (NOT The Windsors)
      czcams.com/video/w-qh_cjKxaw/video.html

  • @jardon8636
    @jardon8636 Před 2 měsíci +3

    the howard dynasty
    are descendants of princess elizabeth of rhuddlan plantagenet...
    daughter of EDWARD I & Queen eleanor castille...
    also their ancestor is
    & king fedinand III of castille ivrea
    & king robert II capet of france... and duke rollo of normandy...

    • @richardcaves3601
      @richardcaves3601 Před 2 měsíci

      On fact they have a better claim to the throne than the Mountbatten -Windsors. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Venelix21
      @Venelix21 Před měsícem

      They are also linked to Edward 1st through the Thomas of Brotherton branch

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Před 2 měsíci

    Fascinating - many thanks! (Presumably, the family background of Henry Arundel played absolutely no role in his apparently seamless move into private equity?!!)

  • @anikdasdigital
    @anikdasdigital Před 2 měsíci

    Your videos are amazing. I really like it. I am a new subscriber to your channel. Can I talk with you Old Money luxury?

  • @robertbarrett2494
    @robertbarrett2494 Před měsícem

    It has been attained more than once .

  • @guitarsandcheesecake1632
    @guitarsandcheesecake1632 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This video is just hours old!!! I didn't realise we still had a queen...... poor king Charles!!

  • @reneeh4406
    @reneeh4406 Před 2 měsíci

    So interesting!!!

  • @g.dalfleblanc63
    @g.dalfleblanc63 Před měsícem +1

    Queen Elizabeth I and Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk were 2nd cousins as they shared great grandparents.
    Now Nobles and royals are more likely to marry 2nd or even first cousins, but unknowingly so many people's ancestors married 6th+ cousins, and we'd never know because the shared DNA is very likely to be zero.
    There's an idea all Europeans share the exact same direct ancestors, this is based on the number of ancestors required being so high, but every cousin marriage duplicates ancestors, so in a thousand years how many times do 6th+ cousins marry? The answer is a whole lot. So we get groups of people called the Franks or the Anglo-Saxons or the ancient British, not a generalized European DNA group, and this continued on into the modern groups usually based on nation-states.
    Groups of people in an area for hundreds even thousands of years, knowingly or unknowingly marrying close or distant cousins. Happenes/happens everywhere on the planet.

  • @bellaluna730
    @bellaluna730 Před 2 měsíci +1

    How are the Spencer’s related to British Aristocracy?

  • @gordonhoward606
    @gordonhoward606 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'm a Howard, Gordon Howard. Supposed relationship Thomas howard

  • @manuellubian5709
    @manuellubian5709 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Interesting documentary regarding British royal and non-royal history.
    1 question and 1 complaint: 1) Is the reason for their current (non-royal) status due to Katherine Howard's 'fall from grace' so many centuries, ago? In other words did that one situation effectively knock the rest of her family out of the good graces of the royal household for centuries to come? 2) I think your description box is far too extensive. Most creators that I have watched stick to writing short, brief descriptions IN the description box. Sometimes they will link videos below or give source credit for music, other referenced videos, and / or film, pictures or photos of other displayed material.
    Not a criticsm. Just a suggestion.

  • @vincegibson4721
    @vincegibson4721 Před 2 měsíci

    I'd love to know who does your voice-overs

  • @robertbarrett2494
    @robertbarrett2494 Před měsícem

    25 titles in that family .

  • @DesireeLingard
    @DesireeLingard Před 2 měsíci

    Actually the Howard family was relatively to the Edward iii

  • @user-hz9il4zd4r
    @user-hz9il4zd4r Před 2 měsíci +1

    Don't let the Prime Minister and the Government hear that. The PM rules the Country whereas the King reigns

    • @tiomoidofangle102
      @tiomoidofangle102 Před 2 měsíci

      And does it very badly. I think the king would do it better.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Does the heir continue to be, nominally at least, Roman Catholic?

    • @oldmoneyluxury
      @oldmoneyluxury  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes

    • @ransomcoates546
      @ransomcoates546 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@oldmoneyluxury Good to know. Whatever one thinks of religion it’s a splendid historical anomaly that the greatest peer in England is RC.

    • @phantomopera5525
      @phantomopera5525 Před 2 měsíci

      The current Duke's granddaughters are ineligible to inherit any of the titles, right? Do they have male cousins?

    • @ransomcoates546
      @ransomcoates546 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@phantomopera5525 This family has had a real problem producing male heirs. I think the current Duke’s father was some cousin of Bernard Marmaduke. The heir apparent is young, so there’s still time for a boy to arrive. But do they want seven children trying?
      A question I have concerns the entail of the property. As I read the law of entail was abolished in 1925, but some great families have managed to keep the property attached to the title. How do they do it? Thanks.

    • @phantomopera5525
      @phantomopera5525 Před 2 měsíci

      I think it's an abomination that women are barred from inheriting. In a democracy. It boggles the mind.

  • @BallymurphyBabe
    @BallymurphyBabe Před měsícem

    Sir John Howard 1st Duke of Norfolk is my 14th Great Grandfather. I enjoyed this video. Cheers!

  • @AXEL00754
    @AXEL00754 Před 2 měsíci

    Lord Wemyss?

  • @kristinedunner988
    @kristinedunner988 Před 2 měsíci

    As there are now only daughters in line for the title will the inheritence go to a male relative outside the immediate family.?

    • @emilywyatt9340
      @emilywyatt9340 Před 26 dny

      If there are no more heirs in the male line, the title becomes extinct. They can petition King Charles to change their letters patent to allow females to inherit. Their husbands get the title. Most titles are males only,some do allow females to inherit.

  • @FragranceScents
    @FragranceScents Před 2 měsíci

    Great grandfather-Thomas Howard 2nd Duke of Norfolk 1443-1524
    15th great-grandfather
    Thomas Howard 3rd Duke of Norfolk 1473-1554
    Son of Thomas Howard 2nd Duke of Norfolk
    Henry Howard 1517-1546
    Son of Thomas Howard 3rd Duke of Norfolk
    Thomas Howard Duke 1536-1572
    Son of Henry Howard
    Phillip Howard 1556-1595
    Son of Thomas Howard Duke
    Thomas Howard 14th Earl of Arundel 1585-1646
    Son of Phillip Howard
    Mary Anne Howard 1614-1658
    Daughter of Thomas Howard 14th Earl of Arundel
    Mary Ferris 1640-1708
    Daughter of Mary Anne Howard
    John Lockwood * (JR) DNA 1674-1758
    Son of Mary Ferris
    Caleb Lockwood * 1702-1758
    Son of John Lockwood * (JR) DNA
    Isaac Lockwood Cpt. 1746-1830
    Son of Caleb Lockwood *
    Susan (Lockwood) Quick 1788-1852
    Daughter of Isaac Lockwood Cpt.
    Oscar Dubois Quick 1831-1907
    Son of Susan (Lockwood) Quick
    Melissa Jane Quick 1866-1935
    Daughter of Oscar Dubois Quick
    Beulah Alinda Harris 1904-1973
    Daughter of Melissa Jane Quick
    Jacqueline ahles cairns 1925-2001
    Daughter of Beulah Alinda Harris
    Nancy Lee Ahles 1951-
    Daughter of Jacqueline ahles cairns
    joseph radler
    You are the son of Nancy Lee Ahles
    Thomas Howard 14th Earl of Arundel 1585-1646
    10th great-grandfather
    Mary Anne Howard 1614-1658
    Daughter of Thomas Howard 14th Earl of Arundel
    Mary Ferris 1640-1708
    Daughter of Mary Anne Howard
    John Lockwood * (JR) DNA 1674-1758
    Son of Mary Ferris
    Caleb Lockwood * 1702-1758
    Son of John Lockwood * (JR) DNA
    Isaac Lockwood Cpt. 1746-1830
    Son of Caleb Lockwood *
    Susan (Lockwood) Quick 1788-1852
    Daughter of Isaac Lockwood Cpt.
    Oscar Dubois Quick 1831-1907
    Son of Susan (Lockwood) Quick
    Melissa Jane Quick 1866-1935
    Daughter of Oscar Dubois Quick
    Beulah Alinda Harris 1904-1973
    Daughter of Melissa Jane Quick
    Jacqueline ahles cairns 1925-2001
    Daughter of Beulah Alinda Harris
    Nancy Lee Ahles 1951-
    Daughter of Jacqueline ahles cairns
    joseph radler
    You are the son of Nancy Lee Ahles

  • @fuchurZero
    @fuchurZero Před 24 dny +1

    If the actual Earl has "only" daughters, the title will pass to the next male in the succession, because of the salic law of succession of the British aristocracy