From Attack on Titan's Ending, GENOCIDE, To FASCISM
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- čas přidán 8. 12. 2023
- Is Attack on Titan: The Final Chapters a Genocide Propaganda? An affirmation towards fascism, even? Find out right now in this video!
The infamous, most popular Shingeki no Kyojin anime is finally ending in Fall 2023 and we are left with the original ending. Perhaps the question arises whether the conclusion implicates how genocide is necessary or else fascism is the best way to control "rebels"? So let's delve deeper into the finale within the particular scope to find out.
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Finally, a mature AOT fan. I was going crazy with these biased kids advocating for mass murder and legit the biggest genocide of human history (almost an omnicide) just because Eren is the main character.
Thanks for the pin lol
and your take is so wrong, the fact that Marleyan are the one who demonized Eldian, and the fact that Marleyan the one who make Eldian became pure titan to begin with.
Marleyan dont want to come to peacful agreement, hence the rumbling, it's literally logical reason for Eren to do that, understanding the act what makes it logical.
Eren himself said why he did the rumbling although he can't see beyond that, he want Eldian to kill him and make them heroes who stopped him, and even until the end Marleyan is ignorant and is still with their corrupted mind thinking that Eldian is the demon, when it is their goverment who did that to begin with.
Marleyan didn't even realize that it is their goverment doing, and they are the one who faced the consenquences.
Eren methode might be extreme, but it makes the Eldian and Marleyan united as one, this is just fantasy, not realities, doesnt need to be political.
@@funfries3857
-Eldians started this mess with 2000 years of oppression and massacre. It's embarassing and tiring to keep seeing people ignoring this part of AOT's lore.
-Eldia didn't even tried to negotiate.
-The Rumbling is a literal Omnicide that doesn't just destroy Marley, but the whole world, not making any differences between soldiers and innocent civilians.
-You seem too hateful and vengeful over civilians, esspecially on the side wich the protaginists are supposed to be against (how surprising), and you make this look like some hightschool girl fight. Embarassing.
-There are other ways for Paradis to save itself without comitting the worse act possible.
-80% of humanity >>>> 20% of humanity.
@@TotalTruth-yu8lk - and so what? it's all in the past, the reason why Eldian in the wall is because the king have a change
of heart,while Marleyan keep being inhuman against the new Eldian that is innocent in current time
and future, they shouldnt repeat the ruthless behavior, but they became one because goverment
corrupted them and failed to see the truth.
- "Eldia didnt try to negotiate", uhh hello, walls, titans that Marleyan produce, the technological froze
advancement in Eldia, they didnt even need that excuse to begin with, because in time skip proven that
Marleyan is beyond corrupted to even have a discussion with Eldia, even after thousands of years already
past, Marleyan became much more corrupted, not to mention Eldian and Eren learnth about Marleyan in that
time skip, but what changed in Marleyan POV? nothing changed, they so fixated at, that Eldian is the demon,
when Marleyan goverment feeding bullshit to the Marleyan communities, and they are the one who keep doing
the inhuman act, when Eldian already stop, it should stop there, but no, they keep going on making pure
titan out of innocent Eldian Civillian.
- yeah so what it is a omnicide? it's literally the only one thing that make Eldian and Marleyan work side
by side
- "make this look like some highschool girl fight, embrassing" what is embrassing about this is,
you make stuff of fictional like it is a real thing, stop embrassing yourself. you are the one who
look so salty and vengeful toward Eldian, you talk about the past that never happened anymore, but instead Marleya is the one who repeated them over and over,
when the Eldian already stop what they did, and live without
doing the same thing ever again, and what worst is, Marleyan actually believe in their lies, creating
all this Titans situation to feed lies beyond lies to the Marleyan as a whole, and try to take founding
titans power to nuke Eldian flat when the time comes, Marleyan is literally worst than what Eldian did,
King of Eldia have a change of heart, while Marleyan kept being animal.
- without the rumbling Marleyan wont have change of heart, because the goverment dead set believe in their
own lie to themself, and the lie that they feed to the country themself, they wanted to Nuke Eldia
and Eldian themself after they took the Founder Titans power, but even if they failed to take that power
away from Eren, they still dead set to nuke Eldia without even stop and thinking of their act.
Rumbling is no way is a good thing, but in fiction like this, with the corrupted goverment refused to defuse the situation for thousands of years, and make it even worst, yes and yes, this is the answer, act as the last resorts, also because they finally open their eyes to the truth that lies dormant from their eyes.
Eldian live in cage, while Marley Goverment planning to nuke the new born innocent Eldia in the cage, while created pure Titans out of innocent new born Eldia that lived in Marley.
one thing that is so agreeable in this video is, do not be extreme in anything, that can reflected back to the real world, but not to the fantasy stories such as Attack On Titan.
@@funfries3857 You cannot ignore 2000 years of oppression, humiliation, massacre and even genocides. The Eldians of the walls are certainly innocent, but the hate they are getting is certainly understandable.
The solution is for both camps is to sit down and talk with each others, undersand the other side's point of view and ending in negotiations.
The Marleyan governement being "corrupt" (as if Paradis isn't full of corruption) isn't a justification for massacring innocents.
You are talking like if you are the owner of the show, affirming that nothing can be changed to desesperately justify an omnicide, and this with ansolutely no evidence. Fun fact, even the actual Author is against your "opinion".
AOT is a realistic show where you are indeed supposed to use it as an example to compare to the real world. The opinion you hold on the show can tell a lot of things about what you would do in real life. And you dare to say I am embarassing for having common sense, when you don't even hide how immature and childish your way of interpreting the serie, like a "hightschool girl fight" where the story talks about war, politics and people being massacred.
Paradis could send a small rumbling just to neutralize Marley's military, then force it and the rest of the world to negotiate for peace. This was literally the canon strategy Paradis was going for before the Yeagerists took over. This was an explicitly shown solution for the problem, yet you prefer detroying humanity, there is no word to describe how evil and crazy your are. You remember that scene when the swimming collosal titans destroyed all the slips and burned the soldiers there ? Eren would have stopped at that moment, but he decided to keep going, killing millions of civilians for no reason.
In conclusion, you make absolutely no sense, plus the fact you are immoral. Something is wrong with you.
*80% of humanity >>>> 20% of humanity.*
1:20
"Representation and depiction =/= promotion"
Perfect, so if Eren completed the Rumbling the story wouldn't be promoting genocide.
Good to know. 😁
Too bad, that would've been been situationally different. Which is why the author didn't go with that ending/let it failed in the first place lol.
@@Utharion Isayama let it fail because it was beyond the scope of his abilities.
Instead, he went for the bland "alliance all survives!" "good guys win in the end!" "love is the solution!!" ending.
Very bland, mid, forgettable, cliche, all that stuff.
AOT could've been a generation defining story on the dangers of ignorance, racism, hatred, and most importantly the _impact of consequences._
@@blubblubblup exept it is already is, and Attack on Titan isnt a stories for political stories, although it have political element, stop making everything about politics.
@@funfries3857 If a story has visual and narrative allusions to the holocaust via Eldian(Jewish) Ghettoes, then the story is unavoidably political.
Write about a whole ass genocide with a fascist uprising and a battle of ideologies, it's unavoidably political.
Heck, even back in season 3 AOT was blatantly political. Remember the uprising arc? If a story delves into the depths of human nature and conflict, then it's unavoidably political.
"stop making everything about politics"
Sorry, but everything in the world is interconnected. You can't just completely avoid one aspect of the story, especially for a show like AOT.
@@Utharion Your words, not mine.
"situationally different"
It represents and depicts a 100% genocide. But it does not promote genocide.
By. Your. Own. Words.
I would say that the alliance did fail but ok. Nobody in the story wanted to end violence or conflict. There will always be wars and fighting, duh, that's very obvious. But the whole point was to try to end eldian persecution which we can see at the end of the story did not happen.
True. I mean, they did achieve peace for a certain amount of age if that's what we want to call peace. In the end it's not clear for us what conflict/why Paradis were attacked. Could even be something outside of this Eldian hate already. Interesting take, nevertheless.
Indeed. I'm glad some people look at the story for what it actually is here on CZcams. Plenty of people are trying to twist things around about the story to make it mean something that it doesn't. The simple truth is Eren did something horrible and Isayama went out of his way to try and make it look like it was actually a good thing.
Makes me wonder what the "Slap on titan" version of this would be like
The parody series?
Are those great? Haven't watched them 🤔
@@Utharion Yes indeed especially Armin lmao!
I think that the real problem with the ending is that it doesn't fit well with the anti-war message of the story
The series is supposed to have a message against hate and war but with the ending it seems to tell us that "umm, humans will always be tied to war!!! asjdfhajsikfhajkshfhajskhjanxcjkabncjkbdkfghagJhj!!111!!!1!!" and there you have a lot of people DEFENDING the ending because it is "realistic" why always believe in dystopia before utopia?
then it doesn't really inspire anyone to work and fight for a more pacific world and instead just lead us to sit down and watch everything go to hell because *adjusts glasses* "war is inherent to humans"
Good take. Guess that pretty much aligns with why I wrote this for video. Interpretations can be wild sometimes 🥶
Appreciate the thoughts!
Huh? The message is pro-peace. The ending just shows you that EVEN IF war will stay, EVEN IF peace is not achievable, you STILL ought to try everything to promote peace. This is said multiple times (Mr. Braus, Nicolo, and the lyrics of the final credit song).
@@fs400ion Indeed. That's basically what I said. The ending is neutral, but the message is positive, yet it contains the realism of human nature. Pretty sure it is people's afterthoughts about it that are sometimes wild and make it way edgier.
this is a reply I made to someone regarding Eren's attempted omnicide being "the best & justified solution" & how there are better alternative solutions than the rumbling, that i thought would be worth sharing, here it is:
" Honestly I liked your answer, in my opinion the way the world's reaction is portrayed is a bit unrealistic, it's still plausible seeing as they were apparently oppressed by the Eldian people for close to 2000 years, but you gotta remember, IRL there is more political ideologies than just the current world powers & governments, Paradis would definitely find valuable allies in the world.
The solution you gave was certainly better than almost an omnicide, I'd like to add a few more points to that solution: for example, if Paradis were to send their colossals to attack various military infrastructure throughout Marley, & threatened Marley with an insane amount of civilian casualties, then of course Marley would forfeit, their outcome would be at the hands of Paradis in that case, they'd either annex them or make them a vassal state or whatever, Paradis can then quickly begin to improve & gather military/economic/social knowledge & attempt to evolve their whole civilization, seeing as Anti-Titan equipment technology has become very advanced, Paradis has to quickly look for solutions with the new resources it acquired.
of course all of this would happen & at the same time, there would be various diplomatic talks & negotiations with other nations & political movements, like the Hizuru clan for example or whichever people Onyakopon comes from, Paradis would be advancing their tech & military & titan-power whilst securing valuable allies from around the world, & who knows, perhaps there could be various peace talks between the other world nations & Paradis, for example whilst Paradis are making their attack on Marley, the Mid-East Allied Forces would surely attempt negotiations for retrieving lost territories such as Fort Slava & also attempt to guarantee their independence by becoming allies to Paradis, a very powerful ally to have.
all in all it'd literally be like what happened, & is happening, in the real world, all world superpowers are vigorously evolving their military/atomic tech & power, whilst having diplomatic talks always, the rumbling & anti-titan weaponry is just like nuclear warheads & military advancement IRL, & as we can see, there is no mass "omnicidal" world war going on, people who were oppressed by other people are quick to peace, economic & diplomatic negotiations right after they gain their independence, Algeria still resumed normal diplomatic ties with France even after being oppressed & conquered for 200 years, Afghanistan is currently looking to establish diplomatic ties with the USA, which had invaded them & caused them multiple injustices for the past years etc.
I'm not saying Eren's choices didn't make sense, they did, he even said so himself, he's a "Gardener variety fool who got his hands on power", the story is valid, it just could've been better in my subjective opinion seeing as it's a fictional story, it doesn't need to try at being sad & depressing as if that is going to make it "realistic", at the end of the show I was like: "so this is it... all those episodes, all that time, 10 years just so Isayama could convey one message, that is War never changes, & Humanity is/can be morally grey"? I didn't need to follow a story just so i could get told something that is plain & obvious, I liked AoT because it was a special & engaging fictional story, not some political/social lecture about humanity. all in all, I've taken too long on this lol."
good show, your thoughts?
I can agree with your argument, honestly. The entire story gave me some anti-climatic bits for something worth 139 chapters that took me years to finish it. Although I think it's "meh and anyway" so I tend to see the bright side in this video.
@@Utharion I understand.
The ending wasn't devastating 🤡 especially if you're talking about the end credits. I'm tired of the "it was all for nothing," take.
The last child who finds the worm looks nurturing and in peace.
Also, dunno what you're cooking with the "pro-anarchism," bit 💀
Are you sure "it was all for nothing" is my take? it's a rather neutral ending than a positive one because that's how the story still able to emphasize the eventual impact of what might happen when "humanity continue to live alongside each other," this isn't for nothing. This is what realism is and we should live with it. I'm not gonna refer to the very last scene about the boy and the dog as that's enough to affirm my point.
I talked enough regarding the minor details of anarchism for absolutely everyone to understand that it is only a variable to compare the issue I bring in this video with myself if I "was" in that position to prove my initial stance. Failing to comprehend this perhaps means you should rewatch that part.
@@Utharion alright, fair enough. I'll rewatch the video but I otherwise agree with what you said about Armin and friends
The story is like talking about our Reality especially palastain🇵🇸
I agree tbh. This is where people can realize the entire thing is definitely not just black and white/good or evil.
I hope at the very least my content can be educative to people in the community.
@@Utharion yes you are absolutely right I think a lot of people didn’t understand what eysiama was trying to say from his story but your video is helping To correct that
I feel like this "fascism" stuff is a trick to make normies (ending defenders) change their minds about the ending, as fascism is synonymous with bad to them. If this series was "fascist" it would have ended with Eren killing everyone.
I'd like to consider the ending as a neutral one instead of good or bad tbh. And yeah the show definitely isn't fascist, hence why I got my take. Though yes I'm not a fan of the ending haha.
The series started as a critique against Chinese expansionism. How did it end up like this?
@@dansmith1661 wait what? how that? If this is true it kinda worries me a little bit. I mean japan did so many horrofic wart crimes in world war 2. Its always a little distrubing for me that literally so many Japanese Authors, Historians and Politicans always critizise some other aisan nations and victimize themselvs while they haven't worked through their own dark past(i am german).
@@mattism.7594 The ESL was kind of obvious. Try being proud of the lives your ancestors gave for your country maybe.
1:06 i think you have the wrong idea for what anarchists are
Oh wait, I didn't make any definitive statement about it there. My point is that those people who try so hard to justify Eren's decision of massive population sweeping are just like people (I said kids because anarchists are often young people) who justify their anarchism so hard that they would use everything to make it look right (or at least from what I've observed from my surroundings, and I'm sure it's the same everywhere).
Although it's true that Erwin's line can be interpreted in many ways, that one interpretation is just too shallow.
Guess it's my bad too. Should've refined the script and worded it better. Thank you for the thought and checking!
@@Utharion ah i see i watched the whole video and you said no extrimism
really nice take, extremism always leads only to destruction
Thank you for giving a thought!
Yes, extremism is what I believe to be a cloud to people's judgment sometimes. Hope the content can be educative to a lot of people too.
And revenge bad. What was the alternative for team Paradis?
@@SSangsen Accept death. That's what peolpe who say Eren had other choices don't understand. He didnT. He either had to counter attack like this, or let Paradis be destroyed. I still believe Armin is right, and it be better to let those you love die, but it's an EXTREMELY pacifist take and that's also the reason why Eren is not just an evil person. He just couldnt accept to let his loved ones die.
In short, those who criticize Eren should understand the implicatinos of that : it means these people should also let their family die instead of attacking back the opponent.
It's very Jesus-like, it is beautiful. But I doubt the anti-Eren understand this implication.
@@SSangsen Honestly, they don't really have a choice considering the hatred Eren caused ever since the attack on Liberio and furthermore, the rumbling. But was Eren able to do something else back then? I don't think so, the only thing he could rely on was his titan power.
But was his choice correct as well? No, I don't think so as well. Armin came out as the true pacifist here in my opinion and that is the only choice Paradis has for a long-lasting peace, diplomacy, which I stated in the video. Can't really pick just either black or white side here.
@@Utharion "can't pick black or white" lol, but the very ending itself proved to you 100% that it has always been nothing but black and white
Disagree but well made video 👍
Appreciate it mate. One has his own take🥂
Isayama wanted to end SNK abruptly, the series had another 100 chapters (focused on wordbulding) but he didn't want to, I don't know if it was because he was lazy or or did he want to fit in that useless symbolism of the number 139
Do you perhaps mean that the story could've had 100 more chapters?
That could be the case (very unlikely after Marley arc imo) but I'm with the assumption that he called it done fully planned as the story still makes sense this way tbh (except the romance pull etc at the end), and since this ending is so much controversial hence why I wrote this. It's natural people got preferences for the ending though.
this is happening in ga1za
The Gazans are bad people because they are fighting against the self-proclaimed bad guys who the media labeled them as.
King Flock was correct and it is ok for Eldians to live in peace.
Even if the alliance failed miserably to talk their problem, the world would not have the means and power to retaliate against paradi in just 3 years 😂
Exactly. Don't know why there are still people justifying Eren's genocidal act like that was the only way out ☠️
@@Utharion technology is highly correlated and influenced by population (vice a versa)
AOT has 20th century technology thus an estimate of around 1 billion total population is reasonable
paradis has a population of 1 million
20% remaining of 1 billion is 200 million
200 to 1
no titans
no walls
no diplomatic leverage (good luck convincing 200 million people after an eldian destroyed 80% of their lands)
also good luck forming international bridges when the fascist military regime of your island is named after the man who comitted the 80% genocide.
@@blubblubblup In reality, technology would not correlate with population, and so is in that universe I believe. Also, I'm not sure about that ratio cuz we see how Paradis survived enough for them to develop into a metropolitan thing (possibly centuries worth of time). We never really know why or how the bombing happened (the one during the credit) and it might not be because of the Titan fiasco anymore. Which brings to the neutral ending and message that there's no 100% fixed guarantee of conflict-free world when men exist, although it's probable to mediate between sides with the intelligence people have, and not only seeing things as plain good and evil. But ok, one has their own take and it's cool.
@@Utharion Wdym it doesn't? Isn't the correlation clear as day irl?
Better technology (ex. farming, industrialization, medicine) lead to better quality of life, more free time, more food, and better healthcare. This gives more time for population growth as well as better survival rates for those children.
Higher population allows a greater number of people to be physically and mentally involved in the technological development and manufacturing process.
Do you know how much labor it requires to build an entire battleship? The world fleet is enough evidence to imply the vastness of the population.
TBH Isayama did fuck up with the lack of worldbuilding post-timeskip.
It's really just quite hard to accept the ending when it requires me to view the world through the rosiest tinted glasses. Entire masses of people moving on from a genocide? IDK about that... Seems too idealistic for a story like AOT.
irl change almost never happens peacefully.
@@blubblubblup Technologies indeed influence population if they exist, the example you give is accurate. But it is rarely/never vice versa. You see, (no offence towards them as I technically live in one as well) but a lot of third-world countries have massive growing population despite their somewhat mediocre infrastructure, facilities, etc. This proves that they do not grow together but rather the human resources' quality of one nation affects the development and that is what determines the technological development. Unless if we want to delve into the practical ways to improve that HR, then yes I can agree that technologies could be some use.
But ya, I get people who just can't take the ending on the same light as I do. Although I don't think Isayama messed up big times at all, as the entire story is clearly a well-planned plot i.e. the timeline thingies. If anything, he altered the endings for whatever reason which I personally just accept, since anyway there's really no other possible ending except this one. I mean, an island of 1 million population as the last living humans would be off and that's not even a problem-solved. Not to mention, they're fascists/their supporters.
Anyway, cool discussion. Hope to see more sharing in the future.
I think you are a little confused people didn't like it because it ended very happy and change the messages of surpassing the sins of the father, bringing the children out of the dangers of the forest, the lengths people will go on the notion that being born into the world is enough for you to be free and the consequences of the cicle of hatred towards people that have not wronged you for a crappy love story on the last second and make the rest of the series completely pointless because nihilism and we are unable to learn
Do clarify it for me if I misunderstood your point, but I think the series has done quite well on showing how one can "break the sin of the past" with Mikasa as the pivotal character here.
Pretty sure the message the anime gives were pretty clear or at least to me and to to those contributed on the research I've made for this content. But yeah, the half-**sed love story is nothing else to say and I agree it's still one of the variable that irks people.
its clear Aot was not made with the goal of having a message, it was supposed to be a character story but Isayama by his own admission changed the ending to make it more acceptable for his audience so they would like him more. We know this is true because the episodic version of Aot cut the final power point slideshow. Meaning that that slideshow is the only thing preventing the series from having the message "Genocide gives all your friends good lives and glory/power to your people and your nation". Its clear Isayama wanted a cheap out and he took it and in the end left with the most nothing statement of an ending that people go along with because they are just happy the series got an ending.
Mf really forgot the first page of the fxcking first manga chapter. Isayama only adjusted minor things. The thing he "changed" was all of the alliance dying (Jean, Connie, Gabi, Annie etc.) The rest is the same. Eren was always gonna die.
Stop psychoanalyzing a guy you've never met
I believe every form of literature bears a message, even if it's the most subtle one. As for AoT, the story is actually pretty well-prepared despite some changes made. The timeline thingies and everything are the sole proof of that. The characters did realize the nature of humanity and made their effort to prevent it (war and stuff) as well.
But I've seen a handful of people did not comprehend the ending well, thus I wrote this and this content exists.
the message of AOT is to not indoctrinate your children with the belief that they aren't good enough and love them unconditionally. That's the very obvious them in AOT. I don't know how you people miss that. "there is no message in AOT" my ass
@@Utharion any piece of media has a message. But there is a difference between a Shakespearean story like Julius Caesar and a Brave New World. AoT was heading down the Shakespearean path of being a story about characters but the pivots at the end to make it a lesson that war dosent end. A theme so basic Arcane just says it in the trailer doing the same thing AoT did in 1 line.
@@sabsain2399 the first page is the same as the anime, are you high?
when you decided to make a story that isnt about political into political stuff.
and your take is so wrong, the fact that Marleyan are the one who demonized Eldian, and the fact that Marleyan the one who make Eldian became pure titan to begin with.
Marleyan dont want to come to peacful agreement, hence the rumbling, it's literally logical reason for Eren to do that, understanding the act what makes it logical.
Eren himself said why he did the rumbling although he can't see beyond that, he want Eldian to kill him and make them heroes who stopped him, and even until the end Marleyan is ignorant and is still with their corrupted mind thinking that Eldian is the demon, when it is their goverment who did that to begin with.
Marleyan didn't even realize that it is their goverment doing, and they are the one who faced the consenquences.
Eren methode might be extreme, but it makes the Eldian and Marleyan united as one, this is just fantasy, not realities, doesnt need to be political.
When you are faced between two countries eventually warring each other then it is political. It's way too undermining the entire conflict of this story if you refuse to see it in a political scope even though its one's freedom to see it however they want to, especially past season 2. Perhaps this topic isn't suited for you, if you find relating it to real life political stuff to be unnecessary. Despite being fiction, it is something that could've happened in real life in a much different form (since this only came from the author's fantasy). I've stated in another reply that Eren indeed had no choice, but he wasn't alone to begin with. He took it upon himself to settle everything according to him and the Yeagerist which I'm not surprised considering his entire character as unique anyway, it's in character. Consequently, the result which is also your conclusion is like the phrase "we made it, but at what cost?"
I m o, the neutral ending is the best it could be for the story. There's no black and white and things as simple as you paid for what you've done as a whole/group. You don't get a super idealistic one where everyone's happy but you don't get a way too edgy/depressing one. But we get a message that conflicts appear as long as men exist, and there's no 100% fixed guarantee on solving that, but what they can do is try, diplomatically (Isayama wouldn't be adding Armin and friends' scene at the end if this wasn't for it I m o).
But back at it again , one is entitled to their own opinion so it's fine.
" He took it upon himself to settle everything" because he is out of time?(the 13 years thing)the next founding titan might want to sacrifice historia??@@Utharion
@@CJ-dk7hc Historia was always willing to do the deed if I remember correctly. Even if we were to forget that, he also had a handful of friends that could've possibly found a better solution. But instead of thoroughly discussing it as a team, just like during the War Hammer arc, Eren acted according to his own eventually.
I think it's just his nature to usually act this way and it's in character like I said. The story wouldn't have been this interesting if he wasn't himself too. Tbh, I still haven't really found any concrete solution that justifies the rumbling.
that is the point,Historia is willing to do that,but EREN is not ,and i dont really have a problem with the ending,just that i dont like the fact that annie and reiner get away scot free and live happily ever after (based on the ending)you cant justified the attack on shiganshina just like you cant justified the rumbling,people live in paradis at that time are totally innocent,they dont live the era of discrimination etcetc,and their memories are taken from them,people tend to forget that annie used to killed the scout and played with their dead body like a yoyo@@Utharion