HEATED EXCHANGE between two Pilots at uncontrolled Airport. Real ATC Audio

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Komentáře • 37

  • @rwsavory
    @rwsavory Před měsícem +22

    The heated part of the exchange was between the aircraft landing on runway 29 and someone in a pick up truck with a handheld radio. We can’t hear the pick up truck guy.

    • @N_Wheeler
      @N_Wheeler Před měsícem +1

      Pickup truck guy received once at 1:57

    • @Rebel23_19
      @Rebel23_19 Před měsícem +1

      Hard to judge without hearing the other calls. One thing is true, these guys are on CZcams for all the wrong reasons.

    • @rocketbob
      @rocketbob Před měsícem

      This is correct, I was there. Guy in ground vehicle ran his mouth.

  • @glowbugVT
    @glowbugVT Před měsícem +8

    This is a "Hello, how are you" out of Newark.

  • @johnp9020
    @johnp9020 Před měsícem +16

    Uncontrolled airports are a nightmare. Too many Vietnam vet era men who don’t believe in radios

    • @johnleavitt1675
      @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem +4

      That is true, but in this instance the twin had the right of way, he was established in the traffic pattern first. IFR practice has no priority over VFR.

    • @lwheatcraft
      @lwheatcraft Před měsícem

      I don't understand your comment. Everyone was talking on the radio.

  • @buddycheck84
    @buddycheck84 Před měsícem +2

    @TheATCAudio why is a commenter summerizing what is happening in this video instead of you?

  • @ragheadand420roll
    @ragheadand420roll Před měsícem

    I like the pickup truck guy. Hes an awesome airfield manager

  • @jamesrau100
    @jamesrau100 Před měsícem +1

    Question? Who has the "right of way" in this case? Or rather, which plane has priority? The one landing or the one doing the touch and go? Just curious, thanks.

    • @helifenix
      @helifenix Před měsícem +11

      Who is at final. the guy to 29 could extend downwind leg to give space to the guy to 05

    • @jamesrau100
      @jamesrau100 Před měsícem

      @@helifenix Thanks.

    • @billfly2186
      @billfly2186 Před měsícem +2

      @@helifenix Yes. Could easily have done that with hardly any delay.

    • @lennert4512
      @lennert4512 Před měsícem +2

      14 CFR 91.113 says that when two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land, or to overtake that aircraft.
      So my 2ct: sounds like the aircraft landing on 29 cut in front... At the very least, the courteous solution would have been to extend his downwind to allow the guy on final to complete his instrument practice approach.
      Notice that neither aircraft announces their altitude, which I have always been trained to do.

    • @johnleavitt1675
      @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem +6

      The twin had the right away, he was established in the pattern. The IFR practice has NO right away over VFR. Under the approach he should break off and circle to join the existing traffic pattern. It’s not who calls first, 20 mile final don’t give you right of way. The new pilots of today all think they are super special with each new rating.

  • @mobius7089
    @mobius7089 Před měsícem +1

    Doesn't sound like it was heated between the airborne pilots.

    • @N_Wheeler
      @N_Wheeler Před měsícem

      1:55 is the single engine guy getting sideways with the multi engine guy, and 2:02

    • @BlueSkyUp_EU
      @BlueSkyUp_EU Před měsícem

      ​​​@@N_Wheeler It's actually a trucker also speaking on the frequency - 01:50. We don't get to hear him but the two pilots do. The pilot doing the missed approach initially believes that he's in an aircraft and asks for his position - 01:39.
      The conflict starts between the pilot who just landed and the trucker.

  • @redbird444
    @redbird444 Před měsícem +7

    Very unprofessional by the “good old boy” flying the twin.

    • @johnleavitt1675
      @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem +1

      How is that? The twin had the right of way, simply calling the rnav approach means nothing to most flying around VFR. Not to mention the horrible call that meant nothing to anyone but him……very very few fly around with a IFR plate on their lap in VFR conditions.

    • @redbird444
      @redbird444 Před měsícem +1

      @@johnleavitt1675 Regardless of right of way (other aircraft was on final approach and this hog burst into the pattern for a mid field downwind circle and should have extended his downwind or better yet flown a proper pattern) his language on the radio was childish and unprofessional. But…we have a lot of clowns in GA nowadays, so not surprising from this one.

  • @rallyden
    @rallyden Před měsícem +1

    Wtf is a midfield crosswind? That tells me nothing other than he’s crossing over the airport.

  • @johnleavitt1675
    @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem +2

    Not only did the practice approach not have the right of way, he did a shitty call. No body else is looking at a IFR plate during VFR, RNAV runway 5 means nothing to anyone but him. Hopefully he goes and learns some right of way rules before getting into something bigger than an archer.

    • @frontier556
      @frontier556 Před měsícem +2

      Found the guy flying the twin

    • @johnleavitt1675
      @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem

      Not me, that’s a long way from AK

    • @TylerN737s
      @TylerN737s Před měsícem

      He called a 3 mile final GPS RNAV 5 & stated his intentions. Seemed pretty clear where he was located and what he was doing.
      True, IFR procedures doesn’t give the A/C the ROW but it’s sure frustrating trying to get approaches in for practice or a checkride and VFR traffic can’t bend a little to accommodate it.

    • @rocketbob
      @rocketbob Před měsícem +1

      Winds were strong out of the southwest, favoring 29. The RNAV05 was not appropriate given traffic and wind conditions. We had landed a few minutes before on 29 right after the idiot in the ground vehicle crossed the runway when we were almost to the numbers.

  • @Paolo-qe7lc
    @Paolo-qe7lc Před měsícem +2

    The Piper pilot needs to grow up. Sounds like he never flew into a pilot controlled airport. Worry about flying an airplane rather than arguing. Only needed to say he was going missed once.

  • @tempestmkiv
    @tempestmkiv Před měsícem +1

    I think neither of those pilots are mature enough to be pilots and should just go back to their jobs at McDonalds serving burgers until they grow up.

    • @johnleavitt1675
      @johnleavitt1675 Před měsícem

      The practice IFR made a shitty call not giving the twin any real info, and the twin was in the pattern first. Therefore he had the right away. The practice IFR traffic thinks making a radio gives him the right of way. Guess what it don’t,

    • @lwheatcraft
      @lwheatcraft Před měsícem

      When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land or to overtake that aircraft.
      I'm not sure if twin guy cut in front or not, but if I were the twin and was going to be delayed by 20 seconds by letting someone on an RNAV in, I'd extend my downwind and not be a douche.