HEATED EXCHANGE between two Pilots at uncontrolled Airport. Real ATC Audio
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The heated part of the exchange was between the aircraft landing on runway 29 and someone in a pick up truck with a handheld radio. We can’t hear the pick up truck guy.
Pickup truck guy received once at 1:57
Hard to judge without hearing the other calls. One thing is true, these guys are on CZcams for all the wrong reasons.
This is correct, I was there. Guy in ground vehicle ran his mouth.
This is a "Hello, how are you" out of Newark.
Uncontrolled airports are a nightmare. Too many Vietnam vet era men who don’t believe in radios
That is true, but in this instance the twin had the right of way, he was established in the traffic pattern first. IFR practice has no priority over VFR.
I don't understand your comment. Everyone was talking on the radio.
@TheATCAudio why is a commenter summerizing what is happening in this video instead of you?
I like the pickup truck guy. Hes an awesome airfield manager
Question? Who has the "right of way" in this case? Or rather, which plane has priority? The one landing or the one doing the touch and go? Just curious, thanks.
Who is at final. the guy to 29 could extend downwind leg to give space to the guy to 05
@@helifenix Thanks.
@@helifenix Yes. Could easily have done that with hardly any delay.
14 CFR 91.113 says that when two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land, or to overtake that aircraft.
So my 2ct: sounds like the aircraft landing on 29 cut in front... At the very least, the courteous solution would have been to extend his downwind to allow the guy on final to complete his instrument practice approach.
Notice that neither aircraft announces their altitude, which I have always been trained to do.
The twin had the right away, he was established in the pattern. The IFR practice has NO right away over VFR. Under the approach he should break off and circle to join the existing traffic pattern. It’s not who calls first, 20 mile final don’t give you right of way. The new pilots of today all think they are super special with each new rating.
Doesn't sound like it was heated between the airborne pilots.
1:55 is the single engine guy getting sideways with the multi engine guy, and 2:02
@@N_Wheeler It's actually a trucker also speaking on the frequency - 01:50. We don't get to hear him but the two pilots do. The pilot doing the missed approach initially believes that he's in an aircraft and asks for his position - 01:39.
The conflict starts between the pilot who just landed and the trucker.
Very unprofessional by the “good old boy” flying the twin.
How is that? The twin had the right of way, simply calling the rnav approach means nothing to most flying around VFR. Not to mention the horrible call that meant nothing to anyone but him……very very few fly around with a IFR plate on their lap in VFR conditions.
@@johnleavitt1675 Regardless of right of way (other aircraft was on final approach and this hog burst into the pattern for a mid field downwind circle and should have extended his downwind or better yet flown a proper pattern) his language on the radio was childish and unprofessional. But…we have a lot of clowns in GA nowadays, so not surprising from this one.
Wtf is a midfield crosswind? That tells me nothing other than he’s crossing over the airport.
Not only did the practice approach not have the right of way, he did a shitty call. No body else is looking at a IFR plate during VFR, RNAV runway 5 means nothing to anyone but him. Hopefully he goes and learns some right of way rules before getting into something bigger than an archer.
Found the guy flying the twin
Not me, that’s a long way from AK
He called a 3 mile final GPS RNAV 5 & stated his intentions. Seemed pretty clear where he was located and what he was doing.
True, IFR procedures doesn’t give the A/C the ROW but it’s sure frustrating trying to get approaches in for practice or a checkride and VFR traffic can’t bend a little to accommodate it.
Winds were strong out of the southwest, favoring 29. The RNAV05 was not appropriate given traffic and wind conditions. We had landed a few minutes before on 29 right after the idiot in the ground vehicle crossed the runway when we were almost to the numbers.
The Piper pilot needs to grow up. Sounds like he never flew into a pilot controlled airport. Worry about flying an airplane rather than arguing. Only needed to say he was going missed once.
I think neither of those pilots are mature enough to be pilots and should just go back to their jobs at McDonalds serving burgers until they grow up.
The practice IFR made a shitty call not giving the twin any real info, and the twin was in the pattern first. Therefore he had the right away. The practice IFR traffic thinks making a radio gives him the right of way. Guess what it don’t,
When two or more aircraft are approaching an airport for the purpose of landing, the aircraft at the lower altitude has the right-of-way, but it shall not take advantage of this rule to cut in front of another which is on final approach to land or to overtake that aircraft.
I'm not sure if twin guy cut in front or not, but if I were the twin and was going to be delayed by 20 seconds by letting someone on an RNAV in, I'd extend my downwind and not be a douche.