Boss IR-2 Amp and IR Cabinet Simulator - Why you need this on your board
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What’s the reasoning for the zoom in of the settings if you’re not gonna edit it to work correctly?
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the only thing is, each amp isn't 2 channels. The red is whatever you set it to last, and the green is whatever you set it to last. So green can be a 'brown' setting while the red can be 'twin' setting.....or both red/green can be set to the same modeling with two different settings.
thank you!
Yup .. he didn’t read the manual ..
I laughed when he said green and then red channel of the amp setting .. that sir does not exist .
You just flipping between the two saved presets
Yep. Was stopping here to see if someone else said that yet. There is no “green” or “red” for each amp.
@@garyatkins4479yup, you didn't hear him say "i didn't read the manual". Ffs, its an off the cuff initial reaction. Start your own channel and make a more accurate review.
Use a boost pedal or a drive. Done...
I just got one! I love it because I can quickly and easily go from my amp setup to my iPad, pedals, effects loop and all. I play at home in a common area and headphones are often needed to keep the peace. Honestly, no one needs to hear the noises coming from my guitar! 5 stars.
What does your ipad do in this scenario?
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshallIt was released over a week ago. Plenty of places have them in stock.
@@thomas79marshall yes it has. They are only available at dealers physical locations currently. I have one.
@@faethe000it plays music through the pedal into your headphones. Or CZcams if you’re trying to learn. There are also other things I think it can do. But I’m not sure that’s just one that I know of.
Wow - nice - Boss have killed it, I love the simplicity - no parameter overload. Now if they could do a bass version - oh yes please🤔 (SVT, B15, Aguilar etc etc)
You get some bass amps in the IR 200. Don’t forget Trace Elliot.
You can use a guitar amp+cabinet modeler for bass too!
Read the manual properly before demoing a product wrong dude
I have the Boss GX100. The amp models are fantastic. The effects are great as well. Best pedal I've ever experienced.
Yepp, I have that same one and I really like it too. A shame that you don’t hear about them that much on guitar channels because it’s a nice piece of gear 👍🏼
Hoping to see one of these for bass in the future. Seems like a great idea relative to the form factor and cost.
I totally agree.
also, one over-looked factory setting is the amp-type setting that you can choose. The default is the direct LINE signal, but there are like a dozen different amp-type settings that are optimal for whatever you're putting the audio signal into. For example, the INPUT/RETURN of a JC-120, or Katana, or 1x12 combp, 2x12 combo, 4x12 stack, etc. I haven't experimented with these much, but the option does exist beyond the direct line signal that is the default for audio interfaces, computer programs, a PA, etc.....this is all in the manual.
I’m guessing Direct is the one to use with acoustic IRs?
@@coffeedudeguy I would guess so, but you can always experiment. I doubt it would be treated like a regular acoustic guitar since you're playing an electric guitar that is emulating an acoustic, so you could always adjust the pedal settings to your taste. The manual says for the default factory setting of the LINE signal: "use this setting when connecting to a PC audio interface, keyboard amp, mixer, or digital recorder"
So you could leave it as the LINE signal, but if you were, lets say, using an acoustic IR into a JC-120's loop RETURN, you could choose this option on the IR-2 pedal. But if you were playing an acoustic IR into a console, or PA or something, you'd almost certainly just leave it as the direct LINE signal and adjust your sound in these devices.
@@Gutch220 I think I get it now. I'm thinking more along the lines of occasionally I would play an acoustic guitar through my main pedalboard, so I could just switch over to that mode using the IR-2 instead of having a another acoustic guitar pedal take up space on the board.
Will have to try it out for sure, thanks!
I just dished out a about $150.xx More and bought the Boss ME-90. It's got 11 amp models with other effects (basically a whole board with the amp modeler). It can be used with a computer and Boss tone central or in a stand alone just using the knobs and switches. There are several ways to hook it up. I use the left and right line outputs directly into my Audio interface. I have to say I love it. Boss is doing a great job with their pedals and effects.
The only thing this pedal is missing is XLR stereo outputs so it can be a direct box when you’re playing live.
The only thing keeping me from buying one.
What does that mean?
@@skittlybeepbop13 It means that if you want to run direct into a PA you will have to have a direct box or if you want to run in stereo, two. They cost more than the pedal.
1/4" to xlr exists
wont be a clean send to the board
@@kingswayguitar
I'm guessing it wasn't intentional, but when you were cycling through settings, the overlaid graphics were not updating to show the knob/switch positions.
That's a nice sounding amp/cab sim, and for the price and small form factor, unbeatable right now. Personally, I would also consider its more expensive and larger big brother the IR-200 that offers way more parameters and 128 preset memories. It's great to be able to recall numerous settings that one has painstakingly worked on easily. That was the same logic I used when I chose the Boss SY-200 over the SY-1.
Yep, this thing ended up making me buy an IR200
IR-200 Has less amp choices and no plate reverb, if that’s important to you.
I like it, but would choose the ir200 over it.
@@ProfVonW Great points. It looks like the IR-200 has 5 guitar and 3 bass amps to the IR-2's 8 guitar amps. The IR-200 has a "Studio" ambience mode that adds "air" by simulating a studio off-axis ambience mic (had to use Bard to get that info) - in place of the IR-2's "Plate" mode. Reading thru a product's manual before buying it can often help (most are usually available online these days).
Yessss I have the IR-200 and it’s my main live amp now.
unreal value for the money, such a well thought out and executed product, Boss has really kept their name strong by being relevant and affordable enough
The Boss IR-200 is nice because it includes bass amps/cabinets!
I think Boss have done really well with the connectivity. There are boxes out there that only do one amp, cost twice as much and only have one single 1/4” output. If it’s about convenience, then the flexibility of the Boss is ideal.
I just wanna say I did not realize you were such a professional lovely sounding guitar player. Super tasteful, nice touch, musical, controlled, mature
Man, I love your playing. You blow me away. I do watch your conversations with Baxter, but now that I realize what a great player you are, I look forward to watching more videos of you playing.
There is no green or red side of the amps its just two presets as snapshot of the knobs.
Hey just a minor correction, the red and green channel are just the saved sounds. So you can have a tweed on one and the Mesa on the other. Don’t think of it as red channel and green channel on an amp, it’s just two saved amp settings.
I imagine they’re doing that for guitarists who only need a two switchable channels amp for what they’re playing. Usually a clean and rhythm channels that you can add effects to or even an overdrive pedal for leads. Well done Boss.
This has been confusing me, too. Is it the case that when you're in one sound (eg Brown) then you turn the knob to Tweed, you get Tweed then if you click the pedal you go back to Brown? So you are then switching between Brown and Tweed when you click the pedal. I find the manual a but confusing on this.
@@anniedarkhorse6791 no. So you make a sound on the green channel, let’s say with the tweed setting, then you click to the red channel and make a sound using Brown. The green channel is now your tweed amp saved sound and the red channel is now your brown saved sound.
Awesome pedal, but I wish BOSS would update their boring color palettes. They are sticking with blah blacks, grays, whites, etc. It would be nice to have British Racing Green or even some cool new yellow, red, or orange pedals to break things up.
definately a home run for Boss and us.
Pretty cool, I’ve owned the ir 200 since it came out and haven’t had any want or need for any kind of modeler or ir since, this would serve most of its uses, still got full use of my beloved pedal board.
I have a board with an ir-200 and HX effects….it’s all I need
@@williamsporing1500 great stuff man, tons of stuff you don’t need as well.
Here’s my issue with this pedal.
Boss IR 2 $200
TC Elec. HOF reverb $160
TC Elec Feedback. $160
Dunlop Mini Wah $120
Tuner $75
NUX modulation $70
Power supply $150
Pedalboard $???
Cables $???
You may already have most of these but you’ve spent that money. These would be the bare minimum for a stage ready/recording rig
OR
Boss GT 1000, $1100 w/zero setup $$$ or time.
You are missing the point of the IR-2. It is for those who don’t want to lug around those stuff you listed. And you also said it yourself a lot of us already have those pedal in the first place so adding an IR-2 is a low cost way to get access to more tones.
Purposely buying a GT-1000 despite already having all those pedals is what I call wasteful.
In that case a Boss GX-100 might be a better choice at almost half the price of a GT-1000 and it does a lot so if you are perhaps not using the fairly few extra features of the GT-1000 which many probably dont then you might not really notice a difference. The IR-2 is a different animal since its more for using as an amp emulation together with pedals, but it can also be an excellent small backup if you have limited needs.
Sounds great, for a mini rig I don’t think you can go wrong.
would've been nice if you showed the pedal while playing it instead of a steady image
It sounded pretty good to my ears. 👍
So do you plug this into an amp or can you go direct into a PA system with it? Do you run your delay, compressor and other pedals before it? Do you need a powered cabinet for it?
I think you can do both. Into amp or into PA.
Nice pedal Jonathan.
Great riffing brother! 👍🎸
Thinking of adding this in the loop of my GX-100 to free up some DSP for more space echo's.
2XL behind you put a smile on my face 🙌
Some one will run this through the Tonex capture software for its own setting. So you have both the tonex and boss settings in one box.
Glad to see Boss making a compact device with both Amp Sims and cab ir. I have a couple of IR loader pedal sized devices, that I use with my 120 watt Orange Crush Pro head. When not wanting to hear the cab at night if you have an effects loop you can run the send out for the signal to one of these IR cab pedals and pick your particular cab and then listen with headphones to the device works great. Just keep the master on the amp turned to zero so you don’t hear the real speaker cab and you can use the individual volumes on the dirty or clean channel for your volume to the headphones
Man I dunno how you did your video but it seems you totally misunderstood the pedal and did not take 3 sec to read the manual. You set what the green and red side are, there no such thing as "the red side is more gainy" unless you set it up like that...
Those pickups are killer ! Tasty licks too, my friend.
Great demo, I ordered one from Sweetwater because of this.
WOW!! Thats pretty darn sweet sounding!
I could definitely see one of those in the future.!
Great episode! Your demos are invaluable. The pedal graphics are so helpful, love the lighting, audio was excellent. Thanks 😎🤓
Would’ve liked to hear you on an LP for some of the amps.
Why put up an overlay if it doesnt show where the knobs actually are?
Guitar players need to understand this: Most of us need more practice and less boutique gear. This sounds fantastic, and If you have a good cab/FRFR it can do the work. And as always, eq pedals work and the audience will not notice a 3.5% difference in tones.
Boss’s marketing department seems to have made the term “Game Changer” a prerequisite to influencers getting one for “review”
It's a tired phrase.
What is the use of the graphics in this vid? He tweaks it but it'd be awesome if the graphics where corresponding to what it is exactly we're hearing.
To everybody-this unit is just another modeler. Not to say it sounds bad, I’m sure it’s great-but it’s just another modeler.
For $200, I don't think you can go wrong! This just might be a Christmas gift to myself
I see a lot of folks jumping on the wagon here, but I hear just too much harshness coming through in the video, maybe just tough to capture well through CZcams. Nice guitar man.
I think there are modeling pedals that are more versatile for the same price that allows you to switch up the cabinets and microphone types and placements. These all seem to be fixed, unless there's a usb port and software for more precise editing? I'd rather go with a Valeton, Mooer, Flamma, Sonicake, Nux, all make great floor modelers with an expression pedal for $200 to $300
It's like a Katana in a pedal. Sweet.
The IR-2 is based off of the GT-1000 using AIRD technology, so it’s better than a Katana. The Katana is based off of a GT-100 using COSM tech.
@@plaidretinasthis is a common misconception just because of the sneaky amps.
The Katana uses Tube Logic like the flagship Waza Amp and Blues Cube.
Read the manual!!!! geeze!
It has two footswitchable presets NOT two channels per amp. Both presets can be the same same amp at two seperate settings or two completely different amps
Exactly what i was going to say, how he didn´t get that? RTFM 😅
Good video production, but you really should have taken a minute to read the manual first.
There is no green and red side to each amp.
I just got mine. Put it into my tone master powered cab and it is awesome! Easy to use and quality sounds. Keeping it as a backup for giggling
Damn, bro. A Tone master AND a modeling pedal...this dude really be coming out of the closet in the casino guitars comment section 😂
I also keep a few pedals just to giggle.
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
Are you done yet? This pedal has been out for a bit now. You're not able to get one at the moment because they're sold out everywhere and sites are only taking preorders. I thought this would have been obvious.
@@thomas79marshall
How is this different the the Line 6 POD? Interested to hear a comparison.
I agree.
Great video, I’m hoping to get to your shop again this summer
The boss house sound : like music coming out of my 1994 PC speakers.
The little Sony's lol 😂
How come the knobs never move on the graphics?
Nice new entry in the modeler world, I'm sure it's gonna have its fans as it is very small, not very expensive and simple to use at home. For a bit more money and if you can live with a double boss sized pedal the HX Stomp remains the king in the tiny modeler world though, it's so many worlds apart from that thing it's not even funny. Flexibility, ease of use live, variety of tones, plus the fact that you have all the effects, the tuner etc just do yourself a favor and go straight to that, I love mine to death it's my only "amp" at home and serves as a backup, and the HX Effects has replaced almost all the effects on my pedalboard. This thing will be the end of nothing lol
i don't think most wouyld consider 3.25 times the price is a 'bit more money'
I mean, yea, but they're two totally different things. I have a Stomp and I love it, but it's for specific applications. I'm considering grabbing one of these IR-2's as well, to use in somewhat similar applications as I'm currently using a Simplifier. For instance, right now I have 2 FRFR cabs, and I either use them for stereo, or in conjunction with a tube amp (dry) in the center for a w/d/w configuration. When I run in stereo, I just run guitar straight into the HX Stomp, and use the balanced outs into the FRFR cabs.
But when I really want the best tone possible, I go w/d/w with my pedalboard, which has very specific pedals routed in a very particular way. The HX Stomp simply would not work in this setup (I've tried everything. I was able to get somewhat close, but not entirely. Especially since I wan't to run my SDE3000 and micropitch for those 80s/EVH sounds). The best way is to run any dry pedals to front of tube amp, then line out of the tube amp into my stereo-wet pedals, which either end with, or are in the loop of, my Simplifier (currently), or something like this IR-2 from Boss. It'd be perfect, allow it to take my dry signal, but still have a proper cab sim before sending the wet L/R to FOH, PA, or FRFR cabs.
I have a Stomp as well, and the main thing that keeps me from using it a lot is the interface and all the menu-diving. It's not what I would call convenient at all. So that's one thing that's very different about this pedal; it's super easy to use, which is a selling point for many. I understand, of course, that with all the complexity and flexibility the Stomp has, all that menu-diving is a requirement. It's just not the way I prefer to work usually.
Anyway, I don't think Boss is trying to compete with a Stomp really.
You can change the reverb type. Room, Hall, Plate
Great pedal. If you add the cost of reverb, delay and chorus, it reaches price point of a decent modeler who can offer much more.Still a great option compared to UAFX and likes.
Yea, I was thinking the Boss ME90 is probably a better value. This probably works good for people with a full pedal board already though
100% still better to go with the HX Stomp or something comparable.
@@BradsGonnaPlay I would say it depends on the player. If someone already has a bunch of effects they like, then an HX Stomp would be redundant and overkill, as it's much less easier to use than this. There's a bunch of menu-diving, etc. Granted, it's really flexible (hence the menu-diving), but I think this Boss is aimed more for players that DON'T prefer those all-in-one units. I could be wrong, but that makes sense to me.
@@chadjohnson-authormusician8072 you’re right. I originally wrote a lot more in my original comment regarding the fact that I would be one of those players you’re describing. But at the end of the day, that’s because I’ve put thousands of dollars into my pedalboard and tone over the years (Strymon fan-boy over here lol). At that price-point, one $600 modeler blows my rig away at a literal fraction of the cost.
If you went all mid-tier Boss pedals though, it might be more comparable but then you just have one set of pedals and a nice amount of amp models, whereas the HX stomp still gives you near-infinite numbers of combinations and access to effects you might not be able to afford as an analog pedal.
Great demo, i must say, i think you should check info on your "red side and green side", they are 2 different setting and amp choices, that stays where you leave it before you switch. Just Sayin' ;)
Can‘t tell you how much I love this Tele ❤😊
Ive been crazy happy with the Mooer pedals that do this, cool Boss is at it as well
Got mine yesterday, instantly fell in love with twin and tweed sims... Today fell in love with marshall, peavey and vox...
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshall Boss IR-2 was released and I made my order @thomann on 30.11.2023. - in EU. Got it 2 days ago. It's on backorder almost from the start, and I'm very happy I found out about it the same day it was released...
@@thomas79marshallit’s been out for over a week
BOSS needs to make this for bass (I'm going it get it exclusively for the svt setting)
Is this typically used through the PA or is it meant to be played through your normal guitar amp (which I would think would color the amp simulation a bit)?
If you aren't going to show the adjustments on the pedal there is no reason to have a close up of the knobs on the right side of the screen in addition to the picture of the entire unit on the left. Aside from that the demo was good and the playing was great, especially the blues riffs in the beginning.
So that there's a point of reference to look at when he's telling you what he's doing. It's better than nothing.
It can’t sound that much”lesser” than any of these things. They all sound pretty right in the stereo speakers. Some “feel” different… probably because of impedance settings. I bought two different brands and ended up using the one with headphones for practice purposes mostly. (I have vintage amps). This doesn’t have that, right? For emergencies only on a live board. That means I’d have to buy a direct box or two. I’d want black panel, tweed and AC models. That’s about it. I do like the effects loop for the delay and reverb. Cool review!
Sounds not too bad at all. I bought a TC ELECTRONIC AMPWORX DeLuxe a few months back, sounded harsh, I ended up selling. The Boss is £40 more and I imagine will be better value than the TC. I currently use a Tech 21 Blonde (all analog) as a pedal base, the Boss will hopefully be a good investment but doubt I will replace my T21.
Can you compare this to the Two Notes Opus?
Love your playing!
Im getting this pedal for sure! thanks for the post..
Thanks for the review! Did i miss where you did the Diamond (Vox) setting? To me, that's the standout!
Hey! Great video! Thanks a lot for sharing! :)
I have only one thought... I guess the Green and the Red are not channels of the same Amp, but just a presets, where you can save any of the models that are present in the unit. Correct me if I'm wrong! I don't have the pedal yet, but of what I saw on other places it seems, that this is the case...
Cheers! :)
Got mine yesterday.
the settings for each amp type need to be adjusted for them to ‘each’ sound their best.
All the same settings for all does not do the amp type selection any favors. Re this demo and some of your tone .
I can get good tone out of each but each need to be adjusted.
The green and red are two preset saves .. nothing else .. please read the manual before you do a demo making incorrect statements on features.
They are not amp simulators, in my opinion. It's a modern head. You can use it as a head on a cabinet, go into head phones, a pa, or a computer. So it's just a solid state head that can do more. It's lighter, less expensive, easier to carry. Tube amps still sound great through a microphone and make a good stage monitor. Am I seeing this clearly? Ive done a little recording, and threw my hands up. I can't be a musician and a tech head. Scrolling gear catalogs, learning about gear, learning how to use the gear, Scrolling through menus. When do people have time to learn and create? I like a simple tube amp, spring reverb, overdrive and delay. A modern tube amp can also go directly to a pa, but if you mic the cabinet, it still sounds way better. We can have this technology built onto a cabinet and now you have a light weight solid state amplifier once again, but you could turn the cabinet speaker off entirely and have it go to house, or control your stage volume easier. PA speakers are not voiced the same as guitar speakers also and some speakers are tuned for pre recorded music. Tube amps with cabinets, bring biker bar muscle on stage. It's big, beautiful, too loud. Not sterilized. You can feel the bottom end. I know that a Toyota Camry can out perform the average 70s muscle car, but the muscle car sounds better, and the Camry is boring. With music sound, presentationand, and excitement matter.
For those with little to no knowledge of Amps a Modeler allows you to search tones for what Might work before you drop two Rock money on something, same for Effects pedals I used to loan my ME-80 Boss out
They're also extremely gay
Or even stop with that because of the flexibility. The great thing is lots of choices.
Sounds as good as all the usual suspects on my iPad, seems like a game changer
Maybe just a quick read of the manual before reviewing?
The fact Strymon didnt make an Iridium 2...with Two Amps ABY and expression pedal and effects loop was a huge error.
All they needed was Riverside Expression style and Topography with a loop like my Ehx Oceans 12 which doubles as stereo in out.
This is a gane changer.
I tried a Nux Amp Acadeny it was great but I got a Lemon...and sent it back.
The S.L.O. sounds so kickass
One question I have, can you roll back on the volume on teh guitar to clean it up ? Like a tube amp and modellers?
Can you put this pedal in front of a clean fender amp.With the Cab simulators off!
I got the friedman IRX and a powerstage. My amp heads are officially retired
Got it wrong about the green & red channels. You can save one amp settings on green and one on red.
I have a Boss Katana 50 MkII, I don't think I need this too.
Thanks for another awesome video ! I’m sure you can more out of it with different types of guitars also.
Awesome play awesome pedal.Green for clean Red for shred😊
how does it react with an overdrive before it?
It's on my list! Cheers Jonathan!!
That tele sounds killer
So this goes through the amp? Straight into the front? Effects loop? I have a Marshall dsl if that matters. So I imagine I’d set the amp to a neutral setting and then use this?
That 2XL in the back......just great
What actual amp/speaker setup are you running through the signal chain? Or is this a direct box?
Just buy a Ampli-Firebox MKII It would smoke this for same price or get used fire box for 150
Can you put this pedal in front of a clean fender amp.I imagine you would have to turn off the cab simulators.
I spent a few days with mine and sent it back. Not because it wasn't good. It does exactly what it promises. The headphone out is super convenient. Most models sounded good. I didn't care for a few of them but my Vox Tonelab LE sounded better and did almost everything the IR-2 does so it felt redundant to have it. If I didn't have the Vox, the Boss would be a great alternative. I'm really impressed by what Boss does in with such a small enclosure. I tried running the boss amp models with the cab turned off, using my tonelab with the pre-amp turned off and cab models on and it actually sounded better than either unit did on their own.
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshall They've had it in stock at my local music store for a while now... not sure what you're talking about.
@@garystackhouse5787 Its set for release on December 16th (in two days time). So no they are not yet available in local music stores.
This highlights a point I’ve been screaming from the mountaintops: all these units from every company are…fine. Despite clickbait-y thumbnails like the one on this video, these modelers have sounded great for years and years
Just received one and itching to play around with it.
I don't know about the pedal, but I think I've found my next guitar. Now if I can just talk my wife out of having that knee replaced.
Why zoom in on to show the Brown setting all the time while changing amp models?