Work Contracts Are Worthless In Estonia As A Foreign Worker (Myths Dispelled)
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this video I lay out the myths of being a foreign worker in Estonia and the rights that guarantees you. It very clear there are two different standards for Estonians then as foreign workers, and likewise you will be evaluated and judged differently depending on which category you fall into. Be aware just like in America there is no loyalty to you as a foreign worker here even with a contract. These contracts often mean very little and you can be "left high and dry" if you are not prepped accordingly in these situations.
I am a foreigner from Iran, I have been here for 4 years and what he is saying is 80% accurate ... about being looked at differently in a negative way in Estonia is true .. in the streets and other public locations but this is the case more for older generations not the younger generation... regarding work environment, I can only talk about IT related companies ... this is NOT the case in It companies.. I have worked in 2 different companies in IT field and I have never been treated wrong or non-equal even once .. BUT .. I have heard and seen that people in other industries are being treated differently.
I am looking for IT jobs in estonia could please tell me if i can get the job from my home country?.
@@arabiclive007 yes ofcrouse, the short answer is it depends on your home country if you're from Europe yes it is easy to find a job here, but if you're from Asia (middle east, east Asia etc.) it is very hard almost impossible, the quickest way to find a job here is to apply for studying here, study for masters or PhD after you're done you look for job, it would take you less than a week to find a job
Very interesting perspective and how has your experience been more recently?
Hello Mr. Mohebbian i hope your doing fine ... i'm Iranian just as you are and just today found out about Estonia's IT industry ... i would like to immigrate by job offer ... the thing is unfortunately i have no clue how can i get one would you please help me in this matter ? I have 6 years of relevant Network experience my english is advanced i would say is there a way to apply for a job from Iran ? thanks
Yes, there are 2 types of contracts here and "töövõtuleping" really doesn't offer too much protection. Coming to Estonia with the idea of getting a low-skilled entry-level job is a bit risky but obviously, some people are making it and even manage to study at the same time. I am judging by hardworking people at Bolt and Wolt which are quite visible on the streets of Tallinn
Yes, very good perspective here!
So you are saying such issues might persist at some knows companies like Bolt as well?
@@unmeshchougule5666 Yes, most likely as it is not an issue but a legal way to contract.
Георги съдейки по името ви, предполагам сте българин. Какво е отношението на естонците спрямо българите?
@@martintodorov7278 Естонците като цяло сё отнасят добре кьм всички чужденци
I don't know the context but u can sign 3 types of contracts here. One of them is normal actual contract (tööleping) with all benefits and you can't be fired without a reason. Next one i don't know that much about (töölevõtuleping) but it's kinda like contract so u must do something in required time, how you do it or if you hire someone to help you etc. is your decision. Then there is the last one (käsundusleping), never sign it if you want stable job. With that you don't have almost any benefits even sick leave. And your boss can let you go with really small notice. What i think is they make many foriginers sign the last one so they fuck you over.
Also jobs where you must talk with local clients like waiter or cashier, the law requires at least communication level of Estonian.
Ok very helpful points here. I never knew this but learn something new each day and will note this in the future! Thanks.
Sir
If I get supervisor job there what information can get from consultancy in chennai to trust the job and confirmation point if view
Please reply
Thanks kapsaline for exact information, but while getting a job offer and signing a contract how can we verify and confirm if it is of type one as you mentioned with all the benifits?
I have a good life in Estonia as a student as i wanted to live there and work because i want to serve back for the country as they claimed "shortage of labour". I'm definitely a qualified for most jobs in Estonia because i have skills and great education but i have no job offer. I'm willing to take lower salary than twice as what I can get in my country. I learnt their language and pass A2, but i couldn't go to B1 because my permit almost ended. So i return home as nothing I can do there. I got a remote work in my country and go to Estonia and stay every 3 months with my visa free access. I don't give up looking for a job there but after years, my interest becomes thinner. Maybe someday I will finally say goodbye to the country.
You can go there to read a master degree
Great to hear your story!
Hi i wanna seek asylum in Estonia, what survival jobs can i get there and is it easy to get a job, like grocery store or in Library?
Why Estonia, why not Russia?
Thanks for sharing this information
For sure!
Woww, someone has had a bad day.
This person in video seem not to understand how things work and also do not understand the culture that Estonians are neutral/content and foreners (that do not know Estonian culture) often misunderstand neutrality to to negativity.
Your own bad experience (seems to be because have no understanding of things) is what you express not the actual situation, you and your brother, it that all the example sample ?
I have worked personally with dozens and contacts with hundreds forein workers in Tallinn, they do not seem to have these problems (been years in same positions or even got promoted), some of my good friends who work in Talinn are foreners, most have been there for many years and they love it and never want to leave.
Hmm, i see the same way happening in my home country also lots of religions and caste systems nuts are doing the same like you said. The managers and project managers will keep you throw you back to your lower position seat if you do smart work or hardwork as they don't have capabilities to do so and just fell the jealous of who is doing really hard work to make there life better.....
But one thing have you read the all documents before you signed on papers or is there any other thoughts in your mind....
Yes, very true point here.
Sir does Estonian people don't like other countries people
It depends on the person and where they come from. There are individuals in Estonia that very much like foreign people but others not so much. I don't like to categorize a group just as one so will leave it at that.
Truth hurts people, but you need accept it to fix that.
For sure!
In my opinion it’s time to let Estonia be a nice small Nordic country. Estonia very deserves to be a Nordic country, because Estonia has done a lot of work, we have many smart people, we are good at digital things, we have northern lights and we are very similar to Finland and other Nordic countries like: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland and Greenland. We are not similar to Latvia and Lithuania and the other Eastern Europe countries. It’s time to stop calling Estonia Eastern Europe country and Baltic country and forget all this terrible, rude and mean Soviet times. Let’s just stop this Eastern Europe and Soviet stigma thing and let Estonia turn the new page and let them be a normal small Nordic country next to Sweden and Finland!!! Estonians call themselves the Nordic country and many other people and tourists had also said that Estonia should be a Nordic country, because Estonian people are Finnic people not Balts and we are more similar to Scandinavia. Yes many people had agreed with that Estonia must belong to the Nordic group and seperate from Latvia and Lithuania. They don’t even need these countries, because Estonians communicate more with Finns and other Scandinavian countries. Estonia will be a very good partner for the other Nordic countries. We will do a very great work and we will be very strong!!!
Thanks for sharing.
I work as a lawyer in estonia and im estonian and i have to agree with you (unfortunately). Thats why its made very easy to issue a claim against your employer to the labor dispute committee (and its free!). Estonian labor laws are very strict- employer is not allowed to end labor contract without a reason and these reasons are limited and these reasons must be legal. I have represented many labor dispute cases in the aforementioned commitees and in court (if you are not satisified with the decision of the committee you can appeal to County Court and its also free). Usually these instances favor the empoyees (employer must prove that his/her actions were legal). Also there have been many cases where the companies have tried or even made people to sign athorisation agreements or other service agreements in order to hide the real employment relationship (as labor laws are strict) and labor dispute committee and also court have said that this is illegal thus re-qualified these contracts to employment contracts and have issued benefits to the employee. I strongly recommend to all employees to as legal adivse in any cases where there is a chance that the company is acting illegally and turn to the dispute committe or court (its easy and you can also seek free legal aid in terms of representation).
You are not at all Estonian. You are fake account.
@@Sigakoer Kes sa oled Meelis Laur? Mis jura sa siin ajad rumaluke :D
@@MZ-wb7bq Yes, I am very sure, that you are fake account created by Tyler or Todd.
@@Sigakoer think what you like härra Meels Laur :D Kas sa oled Meelis Eerik- kiitsakas Harju Maakohtu esimees 6000 eurose riigipalgaga (googelda Eestis on riigiteenistujate palgad avalikud)? Otsi mind IP aadress järgi üles js tõesta, et olen fake konto :D tüüpiline kartulipea eesti mees aka estonian man is a potato head (googelda seda pilti ka)-mina eesti naisena tean milline kartulipea eesti mees on NB! erinevalt sinust olen mina hetero, kuigi pole midagi Meelis ka vikerkaare klubis mängimine on täitsa okei, palju eestti riigiametnikud, kohtunikud ja kantslerid on selles klubis :D Meelis googelda Sander Õigus kakaproov edu vikerkaarelaps, loodan, et leiad kulla selle kaare lõpus ja hea lubrikandi :D
While signing the contract how to confirm and verify that what we are getting is actuall contract and adheres to labour laws or not?
Sir what are the job for +12humanity students
Good question and tricky are, perhaps working at a university or high school.
Which categories jobs can find easily? Is it possible to Study here to do something? Can i earn my tution fees & monthy room rent?
That depends on the situation and many other factors, contact me and schedule a consultation if you want more information.
@@maverickcapitalist1 please can I earn my tution fees and monthly rent
Pls, is it easy to get work at Estonia as mechanics
I like your videos, Good work bro
Thanks for the feedback.
is there accounting or book keeping job from india . is it safe and cheap cost of leaving
Thanks for sharing.
Do NOT go to Estonia to do accounting work. Everything outside of specialist IT work is bad pay. Also the capital has become expensive. Add onto that its freezing cold and not many ppl and you are likely to be miserable. So ... short answer is unless you can get a job paying more than 50000 USD do not even consider it. India has much better opportunities and lifestyle today esp in some of the major cities.
MAYBE HIS BEST WAS GARBAGE
Not sure your point?
@@maverickcapitalist1 your brothers cuz he got laid off canned or whatever
What's the average salary in the IT sector
It depends on the exact job, it could 2,000 Euro per month or 6,000 Euro per month, all depends on the specific job at the end of the day.
@ Depends on your experience level and type of graphic design you are performing. What is your experience level and type of graphic design you perform?
Nice video bro. And I wanna apply for the bk office job total 5yrs experience I have but my English is average can I get job.Plz tell me the name of job agency.Thank u bro.
~2500-2700 on avg (in 2021) for mid-level software engineer... but it can go higher than 5K for some senior positions
What kind of accent do you have?
A United of Globo Homo States.
Great content here in very relevant points mentioned here!
Thanks!
Continue showing people the truth, lots of relevance here for foreign people in Estonia!
Thanks!
Mmmm
Wtf? What contract did you sighn? Did you actually had any research on local labor and work contract law (töölepingu seadus)? Sad to hear you got screwed.
The contract was one my brother had signed and a few friends (one was actually Estonian). I don't recall the type of contract but just know these guys got canned in the end from their respective job positions.
What are the salary of employment visa in Estonia
What do you mean?
@@maverickcapitalist1 nothing
at least the average Estonian salary... ~1500eu gross/month
It depends on your job profile minimum wages will be 1200 to 1500. If your experience person it goes beyond 2k to 5k. And also there will be huge tax will be apply on your monthly wages if you getting 1500 monthly , u get 1200 change on your hand
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