The Troubled History of Dungeons Speedrunning - Hypixel Skyblock
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Speedrunning is not something you would usually associate with Hypixel Skyblock , but one group of players were determined to compete for the fastest run by ANY means possible.
Special thanks to: Mizly, 15h, BigHero9, AverageSweat, Angycathy, Nashes, Kotonaut and Flar3zy for helping research this video. Extra thanks to @Faiilcat for providing me with his world download of Floor 7!
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Music used (In Chronological order)
- Celeste OST - Ressurections
- Dream speedrun Music (Trance Music for Racing Game - Bobby Cole)
- Heaven Pierce Her - CHAOS
- C418 - Divide by 4 add 7
- Foewi - Negative Gravity
- Prism age - Plural
- HOME - The Moment Before
- HOME - Still Life
- Home - 17
- DM Dokuro - Theme of the sulphurous sea
- KatnaZERO Ost - Silhouette
- HOME - 22
- OMORI OST - A home for flowers (Tulip)
- HOME - Tides
Chapters:
0:00 - Skyblock has Speedrunners?
3:03 - Dungeons Explained
10:50 - World Record Progression
24:00 - The end..?
25:24 - Uh oh.
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you know its a good year when hellcastle and tyler upload
and it isn't a video where someone banned from doing minuscule thing
Key word being year
Yo forgor 3rs
LMAOOO
Let’s hope it can fix inflation
i don’t even play skyblock anymore but i still watch since the videos are entertaining lol
same
I recently got back in to the prospect of skyblock updating to 1.19 and the Rift. It’s fun playing for the game and not chasing meta and coins.
Same bro
same
Same
34:20 CORRECTION: Auto dungeons has not been released and to my knowledge, nothing like it exists elsewhere either.
My motivation for making it wasn't to have it do runs for me, it was just because 1) I thought it'd be cool and 2) It was the perfect project to learn more about programming concepts like graph theory, optimization, data collection etc. I didn't (and still don't) plan on releasing it. I don't like how bad of a situation cheating is in Skyblock (Which is why the most major cheat I've released so far is still just a map scanner) and it's sad to see how a lot of dungeons has just devolved into people using auto routes and various other macros for all of their runs.
Imo 2021 dungeons were the golden age, since the cheating situation wasn't that bad and runs were still (for the mostpart) mostly skill based. PB running on old f7 was super fun and I'm disappointed that we're never going to be able to experience that again due to the floor 7 boss being ruined with the release of M7.
It was fun seeing how fast Floor 7 could be completed as almost a TAS run, but when those mods start getting used for normal runs or even make their way into party finder, then that's what I've got a problem with.
why even say you dont like how cheating is in skyblock, yet release a cheat and actively work on them secretly.
@@kelp4119 I never said I didn't like that cheating existed. I think that the tech behind a lot of the cheats is really cool and I'd encourage people to make and use them in private so long as they don't actively harm the server or its players. My problem is when they become public and so widespread that a large portion of the playerbase uses it.
I was fine with releasing IllegalMap because all it does is give information to the player, not change the way they move or interact with the server.
@@kelp4119 Believe it or not, there are people that like programming.
I try to make cheats for most Mono compiled Unity Game I get my hands on, because it is very easy to modify the source code.
I don't actively use those cheats, but it is fun to figure out the inner workings of the games and how to bend them to your will.
Or just mess with friends in coop games.
shoutout bloomie
@@wage5520 woge
I miss the old f7 and early dungeons, it was probably the most fun I'd ever had in my entire time playing skyblock
I remember us trying to do f7 together and horribly failing lmao.
YO FF GAMING! CHONKER HERE! I remember doing runs with you :) i miss old f7
I would love to see a follow up video on m7. While unfortunately the story goes much the same, the amount of stuff found and the insanity of some of the cheats that were developed for it would make it much more interesting to see. Especially since the m7 speed running community is still alive and wr attempts are made regularly. Great video
Funny joke
@@stiv5517 ?
@@ryanyun5481 m7 sppedrunnig is dead i think last i checked
@@stiv5517no, in the past few months dragon skipping has become way more consistent, and lots of new glitches are found and abused all the time.
@@1staccount449 I'm saying speedrunning is dead cuz like no1 cares
Oh man.. flying in f7... what a time. That was the most fun any of us had on skyblock, lets be honest. If they could just rework a few things in f7 like crystals to add back flight I'd literally cry tears of joy.
Truly a Refraction outro moment
tbh 5 people doing phase 3 seperately wad really cool imo
back in my day /s
I SAID /S
@@oogaooga0000 I agree, it felt so much more intuative and enjoyable than the buggy lava and incohesive parkour sequences. Bonzo staff makes it fun still, and adds more skill to it... but its so laggy and buggy it's just not very fluid.
@@notSwiftie What?
Bro does not fear the algorithm
i found the imposter
@@Brebbb86 idk man you holding the knift
funni fake dra3oon
@@DuckstewW I am real dra3oon
@@Dra3oon no proof
A myth for mythbusters series:
If you tranfer an enchanted or reforged silver fang to the rift (or two, one enchanted and one not. (they will stack in that chest then)), and then bring it/them back to the hub, they will stack again and lose enchants/reforges.
"Not looking to be out done by a rodent 15h, yarns, heatran, linman, and complexorigin came back the following day." got me dying
I’ve never completed a single mission in skyblock, but hearing people talk about niche things they dedicate their time to and explaining their expertise in this area is awesome!!
A lot of fun to watch keep it up :)
I don't play Hypixel but I burst out laughing @ 17:44 because it sounds like someone might have been doing a little trolling along with their hacking. You mentioned that a dungeon _mod_ was released called "Just Enough Dungeons" or _J.E.D._ that hacked player accounts... well, a few years earlier the Old School Runescape (OSRS) community had a _BIG_ drama with a moderator at developer Jagex, who was fired after getting caught stealing player accounts & gold inventories. His name - _Mod Jed._
HA
a bit late to this comment but the guy that made J.E.D apparently regretted hacking so many accounts and tried to return all the stuff he got from the scam but he got wiped and banned so the stuff went away with him
While that's a fucking crazy story, it's unfortunately probably just a coincidence. In the modded minecraft community, there's been a trend regarding a specific subset of mods: Too Many Items, Not Enough Items, and Just Enough Items are all mods that allow you to access a list of items in the game, as well as view their recipes and usage. That trend continued to Not Enough Updates for skyblock, and it's more likely that Just Enough Dungeons was a simple continuation.
love to see clipping through doors at 14:45 its like the only tech i helped develop
can we just agree that LiveLaughLuigi is a fantastic username
might be the best ive ever seen
Good video! I liked the explanations of the different techniques with how they worked, how they improved times, and how certain records utilized them to bring the time down. I would've liked to see a bit more of who the people running are though. Even if not much is known about a group, just having some basic information to characterize them would've been nice, as I did get a bit lost trying to keep track of who is who. Also, the sections with the only improvements being better execution or luck did drag on sometimes, so I think a bit less time could have been spent on that. However, I really liked the cheating part at the end. Although, as you mentioned, it was a bit of a downer, it was the most engaging for me. The reveal was done well, and the explanations of how clients got ahead of each other was entertaining. Both the explanations of new cheats as they were developed, and the tactics like releasing competitors' cheats for free were interesting.
Why is this video so rewatchable like I've watched it like 6 times now
I am a new f7(post revamp) "speedrunner" and try to stay to full legit parties, the best time ive ever gotten on new f7 is 4:41, knowing how easily I could speed up clearing/phase 3 by having people cheat is very sad
also the current mid-run legit bloodskips are so unreliable so runs are normally locked at camp time
insane
slow
@@Flar3zy I know
woah!!
thank you for representing legit players engineerandrew you are truly a hero its good to have someone we can truly trust would never deviate from there beliefs
IIRC Flying was first possible by equipping spirit boots, but if you took them off, you couldn't fly anymore. It was only afterwards when they patched that, where tarantula boots were used, where you could even take them off and fly
Man do i miss running old f7 it was by far the most fun I had in this game. All though new f7 opened up for some interesting new challenges and strategies which I have had alot of fun using and helping to develope some aswell. It really is a shame there isnt a way to verify runs on the new version of the floor besides word of mouth and screen shots of run times.
Happy you included the clip of me on venomised jumping through the wither door on cal's stream one of my favourite moments.
I just want to upcrush again and one phase p1 and p2
That cat made my day nice to have you back
This videos so good seriously
You guys are so reliable on the accuracy of your videos it's crazy. You should be proud
I made a 46 minute documentary about Roblox lol
game theory: tyler is hellcastle's cat
Your videos are amazing !!
The ultrakill ost really adds to the video (Flesh prison is catJAM)
Waking up to a 38 minute video from HellCastle, my day has already been made
Hey, that's me in the video! Great video, it really takes me back to how so much happened in such a short time. Also, if anyone is curious what times would be like if the floor remained the same, the theoretical best time is likely a 1:52.68 (or in a range near there), with split times of:
Clear: ~20 seconds (the time at which we would bloodskip)
P1: 15.9 seconds
P2: 24.6 seconds
P3: 21.76 seconds
P4: 30.42 seconds
My guess is that the real world record would be a sub2:10 or maybe even a sub2 if the conditions were right. Its a shame that the floor was changed and we will never get to know how fast the times could have been but with the use of cheating and the constant chance of you and your team getting banned, it was inevitable that a stalemate like this would happen.
Just to mention, cheats did play a massive part in the times we got, there is no denying that, but I don't think I'd ever be able to say that cheats were the reason that one team beat another, consistency from our team is likely the reason that we were the least team to hold the world record before the floor was revamped.
Hi hosted how is your day
@@stiv5517 o/ Hey stiv, pretty good
@@HostedOnCrack Awesome
Ily hosted
@@Mizly love you too mizly
Love the vid!!!
I appreciate the use of the ultrakill ost
Ahh I miss the good ol days when I was speedrunning with the gang and I actually had love for the game
same
I Love the fact that He used Chaos from the ultrakill Soundtrack at the beginning
M7 is now extremely fun to speed run with insta killing all dragons
Happy day when hellcastle and furr- uhhh tylerrrr uploads.
Always love me some good skyblock history
hello i would like to inform you about the fact that our perm's fastest f7 s+ clear was 36 seconds long :)
new layout just ruined speed potential because of unskippable cutscenes, it just became easier and slower
the 2.41 run with communityproject was also our perm's but like everyone there got boosting wiped sooner or later cause of the large dupe wave
also according to our calculations the fastest possible f7 run was in the range of 1.55-2.05 minutes s+ and it would've been doable with more time
5/5 clip boring
4qg :wave:
🤓
ohemgee is that fourqueuegee
great video keep it up!
The fuck did you watch this 38 minute video in 29 minutes
I’m sooo happy thank you for the upload
6:45 Tyler still has their old IGN in that image
love your videos !!!!!
hello hellcaste watchers, the new f7 wr is on my channel :)
Matej my beloved
hello matej tlapak ik that video :)
great vid!!
at 2:00 that info is kind of flawed because EVERYONE is farming right now and ruining the economy
Very good vid tho keep up the great work
I remember using term aura bro i felt like god. Then I got wiped two weeks later
dude the amount of ultrakill music i have heard in videos recently is insane
Hellcastle makes some of the best skyblock videos
huh. i haven't touched skyblock in a year now, but it's always interesting to come back every once in a while and see what's changed.
Butterflygirl23 is a hacker tho? Got banned for dungeon mods.
What are the prices of silexes these days 💀
Great video by the way Hellcastle and tylerrrr!
Hope you’re doing well Hellcastle!
Thank you for the update
Hell yea 2 uploads this year
finally a hellcastle upload
I enjoyed that picture of the cat at 37:17
Cheating actually made high level dungeons depressing to play. I really wanted to play the game legit but there was a time where not playing with cheaters was almost impossible as so few people were doing M7. Many cheaters would also expect legit players to start cheating just to make the average runs faster.
thats fake information.
@@WCaboutYOU fr cheating makes the game better
@@averagecbtenjoyer9095 different for different people i guess, I personally don't have an issue with people using qol cheats in mmorpg games like skyblock, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else. This sort of affects other people (the legitimate dungeon speedrun community, as they have to face sometimes unbeatable cheated runs) but not to an extent where it ruins the game for everyone (e.g. macros or dupes).
@@projectinfinite7992 you know they can just compare cheater parties to cheater parties and legit parties to legit parties? and their run times can be compared the same legit to legit and cheater to cheater
@@WCaboutYOU yeah from what I saw, people very much compared legit times to a legit wr, I knew a lot of top players around the time this video is talking about, and not only were legit players competing with cheaters, they were often better, but they never really cared that cheated times could be faster, as they just cared about legit wr
i love hellcastle tyler
i like the summoning salt stule vid
you know that you're a veteran in the skyblock community if you recognize hacked some if not all client names by their first letter
should do a video on kuudra speedruns as they are very interesting atm
YAYY HELLCASTLE AND TYLER UPLOADD
Explains the community of this game so well. They will do everything to not actually play, not enjoy a second, not be a human at all, not exist, not even in the same universe, while gaining stats in videogame without effort not deserving anything but getting banned and wiped and banned. Even most of the players that don't do that with literal hacks, but rather find a way to "play" the game ignoring every single playable aspect of it and just buying gear and afking money, in ways being arguable whether they are allowed or not.
Like what the hell is wrong with 99% of the community. If you tell this to any other gamer playing any other videogame they will not believe a thing you have said. Skyblock players are the equivalent of playing chess by opening a fridge.
Your cat is realy adorable :)
Love how that skyblock board was censored while the chat wasnt so its pointless
Gosh Tyler wasn’t lying his upload was today wow
ah nice topic i was in a team that got the #1 time for f1 S on release before f4
"the next day, there was an even better run with the dynamic duo, 15h and yarns, and also DeathStreeks"
you didn't have to do bro like that 😢
Tbh. As someone who just recently got into dungeons (After 7 months of my hypixel skyblock account) and have no idea what their doing, Still kinda sad to see all the fun taken out of the gamemode :/
“GrumpyDork: Jesse we need to cook” lol
13:32 the overwatch wreckingball voiceline killed me 🤣
is there a translation for that? is it a speech sample from overwatch?
Hellcastle too busy grinding overwatch to play skyblock 😂
I keep seeing you in streamer chats
Does everyone ignore the fact that the background music for almost a his vids are Celeste songs like the one playing in the background during this one is one of the main songs.
That cat at the end of the video is soooooo cute :)
you know its good when ultrakill reference
Igblon explanation music 3:10
The ultra kill music caught me lacking
I dont even play skyblock anymore but I still watch your videos
love your vids W channel frfr on jaud
you have a very nice cat
this is like the question of what happens if you just drug every olympian to see the human limit
to answer the question at the begining: ULTRAKILL
ignoring the 52sec f3 you could do by dying twice before the runs started so you'd start in the bossfight
3:00 what mods and texture do you use? Could you bring a video showing it?
yooooo chaos music from ultrakill!!!!
YIPPIE NEW UPLOAD
the cat pet is so cute
The best part is the cat pic.
early to a hellcastle and tyler upload? W
The ultrakill music hit me like a tank
Call an ambulance
“Maybe a Mario game, or a Mario game, or even a Mario game with stars”
Marioception
ButterflyGirl23 Perm stay winning.
mfs lost wr in a day
Ok, this video is good luck, I started watching it, stopped, then dropped a handle
I was watching GDColon recently, and found you in one of his videos, I was wondering if you still play geometry dash, and if you did, what is your hardest level?
At 29:30, does this mean they all mini maps are bannable? What I’m getting from this is that as long as the map updates like the normal Hypixel one does, it is fine. So, would minimaps like badlions, NEU’s, BetterMap, etc. be bannable?
18:00 Jed in my language means poison XD
oooommmmggg my name was on screen when you scrolled through the mine a diamond
37:17 yooooo its a cat!!
Speedrunning community died in f7 after revamp but not for any of the mm floors and m7 is still very much alive and more complex and skilled than f7 since there’s a whole extra phase and the enemies are more difficult
Hello, thank you for the last guide for begginers, it helped me a lot. Now I'm in The End with end armor and set, grinding combat lv. But I have a problem, with the minions of redstone, they're doing a lot and I can't buy Super Compactor 3000 for them. they're like 6.5m for all. How to make that money? Just selling in the baazar sand?
i got fucking jumpscared when the flesh prison song started playing dear god
only the real ones watched the one with a editing error
Nice calamity music
I like how in the intro he used music from the game Celeste, best game ww. btw. 3000 hours