The disastrous NHI Bill will destroy South Africaâs health care.
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âThe NHI is not a miracle that ANC claims it to be. It's only meant to convince people that the looters have returned to their revolutionary roots, that once liberated a nation.â- Michele Clarke, MP
Get rid of this ANC now before 2024 they have destroyed enough
That sound illegal
It is not so easy to get rid of them, that is why you get coup' de tats. They will just buy other parties to join them, and then the indoor fights just proceed.
Just another way to steal
If you see all the corruption in state Healthcare, you realize why they want to expand
Expand THEIR corruption to the private sector yes.
Absolutely spot on Ma'am this inept government scoring another own goal. Everything they touch turns to dustđĄđĄđ€Źđ€Ź
Honestly, nothing the government has done thus far benefited the citizens. All the State owned enterprises are destroyed. They know this will never work. đą
ANC Madness and just to carry on with incompetence and corruption!
No to NHI
Since 1992 government health implementation failed in America. How will NHI work here with where everything was a failure.
And they have only 7% unemployment, the largest GDP/capita, etc. Theirs was never meant to replace private medical schemes.
But tey have an expensive medical system
The ANC is milking as much as they can
Constantly milking the cow and not feeding it, they are a disastrous lot of people and does zero for rsa, nada.
They want Healthcare to join Transnet and Eskom
And Post Office.
Please all South Africans sign a petition to stand against these NHI regulations. AFRICA can take care of its own people and do not need to bow down to those who choose to enslave through programs that have NO interest of the people at heart, but their own pockets.
And so the feeding frenzy/lining of pockets continues.Most SOE have been destroyed by our government.SABC,S.A.A.Denel,Transnet,police force,public hospitals,education system(government planning to destroy it even more with the BELA Bill)Eskom,water supplies.....now private medical care .This reminds me of a swarm of locusts raiding a crop,destroying it and moving on to the next crop to destroy it.
We trust our good and merciful Creator God and alone not the follow after men that do evil. Pray for our leaders that their HEARTS will be convicted and change that we may have "peace and property in this country".
@@berylackermann8240 amen
Where do we sign
Where can we sign????
Thanks ANC - whatever you look after- water, electricity and now health, you f up!
The ANCs due to date expired ages ago. They are exactly like Zanu PF in Zimbabwe
DA must focus on growing their support base, in order to topple this corrupt ANC in 2024.
This is the end of South Africa. And of the once best health care. What a disgrace.
We also had one of the best electricity providers in the world...
Our public health services is already in a state of crisis. If you cannot fix what is broken now then this is just another failed policy in the making. Remember, good governance works from the top down in every organization. Without removing the top executive, any and all policies will continue to fail.
In crisis because itâs taking care of 85% of the population with only 20% of the Drs
The fact that we even have to paint the picture says it all! đ
The Free Market Foundation had an excellent speaker a few months ago that spelled out exactly what was wrong with the NHI bill. In short, it is an absolute joke.
1. The governing structure suggested for NHI would be not just prone to corruption, it would actively facilitate it.
2. The NHI bill does not specify how any citizen would benefit from it. It only seeks to bring everything regarding "healthcare" under one umbrella, controlled exclusively by one deployed cadre.
3. The suggested budget structure for the NHI is about 5 times the size of Eskom. It will make our energy crisis seem like a Sunday stroll in comparison.
Don't support this Bill. Wake up
They stole our enegy now they want to steal our health.
Oh thank God for the truth, truth, and justice will prevail. Thank you so much for your hard work, We appreciate it!!!â€đ
How will it prevail? Like in how it has prevailed in the destruction of the infrastructure?
The comments here show how naive you are
Bet you also say how great the country is , hoe you will bever leave etc
You need to take a reality check
@@philipkoekemoer4705 South Africa is a great country, but corruption needs to end, and the only way to bring an end to it is to pursue justice, and God will bless those who expose evil and pursue justice, God cannot lie, He is faithful!đ
It is time for the ANC to step down, it can't come soon enough
Well said the country is in a mess!!
How is it possible that the anc breaks almost every law there is but nothing ever happens?
Itâs time for us all to stop paying taxes...
Hallo Ek is gebore SA ek stem 100% saam jul
I don't know who she is but she spoke facts
Make public healthcare compulsory to all ministers and those employed by SOEâs.
Make it a jail-able offence to seek private healthcare for those 2 groups.
Then lets see, how much they want NHIâŠ
Well ministers will fly and presidents will fly to Russia.
Thank you for your well prepared information!!
Exactly. Well said. The playing out of the book Animal Farm which SA banned in all schools.Who is fooling who.
Thanx for fighting against the nhi.
I'll support this bill when I see all ANC members and Mr Ramapoesa himself getting treated in their local state run hospital.
They are sleeping and not listening.đŽ They donât care because they want the whole pie đ„§ for themselves and cadres.
ANC âAnother National Crisis âCommon Clownsđ€Ąđ€Ąđ€Ąđđđ
Lol the "advocate" in the background, just checking his bank account to see if his still getting paid by the second. He wants to eat good.
@christopher lol đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
It is amazing that the character sitting behind the lady speaking fidgets and spends time on his mobile and hardly pays any attention.
Dis reg. Anc political is very bad đ
I'm a government medical professional. When the NHI gets implemented, I and many of my colleagues will seriously be considering emigration. It is a death knell for all public healthcare
You cannot destroy what is already destroyed.
Anc...hold my beer.
@@morganglen80 EFF...hold my Breitling
The pigs đ smell more swill/money in the trough.
đđđthe swines are salivating.....
Good coverage
en ons dokters gaan almal land verlaat
Hulle het reeds begin om dit te doen en baie beplan reeds om dit te doen.
Yes. 100 percent correct.
Let them go, we have indigenous medicine!
Ek neem niemand kwalik wat padgee nie. Hier is GEEN TOEKOMS in ons geliefde land nie....
â@@bee-stingyes, trips to the sangoma will be fun NOT!!
The anc in South Africa can boast of having the longest train in the world it runs from cape town to beit bridge and has tens of thousands of anc passengers gorging themselves on the corrupt gravy the famous anc gravy train
For a start we have no more nurses thanks to Dr/mrs Zuma who closed all nursing colleges country wide. I hope her day comes when she needs one. We are short over 60000 and my era of nurses have all retired. What a disgrace she is. May these thugs ANC be out before any further progress.. Why are Discovery pro NHI would love to know their AGenda. Anyone got a comment .
Discovery also is against it now
It started long before that when Rina Venter said anybody from the street can be a nurse, wouldn't call her Dr
NHI is defeated!
I will stop paying for "PRIVATE" medical aid!
Of course. Why anyone would keep paying that much for something they won't get is beyond me.
Time to get out of SA
Money worth shit .
The ANC are very god at making declarations but then it ends there....!
Two more family members, qualified as doctors but no jobs available and have left the country...
Solidariteit/Afriforum needs to establish its own medical system we can build Soltech and Akademia why can't we build hospitals for our own people? The DA can complain as much as they want to that is not going to help us, do something practical.
You should Understand the DA is the only one taking the fight to the ANC in goverment...
Solidariteit en Afriforim is nice and all, but building 1 or 5 Hospitals wont save US if the NHI Is approved..
The DA Use differs from that of Afriforum, The DA is the largest opposition voice in regards to state matters.
@@mjdouglas9665 so what did the DA achieved during the past 29 years of so called democracy? Maybe a destroyed country? No my friend any opposition in Africa is worthless, the ANC don't even take note of the DA.
It is up to us to look after our people and families the "government" and politicians are only interested in themselves.
After 29 years of "democracy" this country is almost destroyed and the worst is still to come.
I have never voted for any far-left political party and I am not interested in ever voting for them because they are the cause of all our problems in this country today.
I believe in self determination and the prove of it succeeding is there for all to see.
As long as you bear all the costs for the hospitals, including all the operation and cancer treatment that is fine. Do not expect a cent from the government towards it. You have no idea how much cancer treatment and operations costs. It will bankrupt you and any medical scheme.
@@shanaazcloete8531 if we can build and maintain colleges and universities why can't we build and maintain hospitals? Orania is a good example of what we can do without the bankrupt "government".
There is NOTHING we cannot do on our own only DA voters can't do anything on their own and I can prove it. Show me anything they put up for there supporters since 1994.
My son is a student at Soltech at the moment and let me tell you they are the best of the best.
So if you want to keep struggling and begging a bunch of thugs not a problem, to us nothing is impossible.
@@mjdouglas9665 no they are not, if they were then they would of never allowed the racist BEE laws to be put in place
I better be one of the first 10 000 in line to get my teeth done 100%... đ
Guess what...no dentists and being the state the won't give fillings and will just pull your teeth.
They will never listen to you for 3 reasons just on principle because they will never admit they are wrong and because it requires logic which they do no possess and because they want the reserves held by the medical aid co's which do not belong to them they belong to the members.
the African National Cartel will not give up on this cash cow!!!! as they always say..."the brothers need to eat"
Save us from this ...
Their idea is not just for all of us to start off equally at the starting line (which is how it should be) but to also finish together at the finishing line - regardless of your input abilities or training. That is how they ride on the backs of performers and successfull people to make sure they don't lose out... always at the expense of others
NO TO NHI BILL.
It cannot work with ANC involved . It would be another easy cash cow for the cadres. stop the current in health dept and use the money to improve public health, it could have been done years ago if it were not for corruption.
SAs health care is cooked as it is. Notbing can destroy it more
This lady should have put speech on a lower base of simplicity corruption is at the order of the day just more money to take
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
and to hell with the bill.
SA citizen residing in Taiwan... NHI works for everyone here cause EVERYONE contributes. Monthly pmt to NHI is a small amount. Everything is covered (with a very small additional pmt per visit to clinic/hospital/etc.). Going to a dentist to clean teeth or put in a filling is about R75. Doing blood tests, MRI scans, X-rays, etc. would be about R120 (total, assuming all 3 were done during same visit). The only thing NOT covered is cosmetic type treatments. Even if you go out of Taiwan, you are covered abroad (you just need to keep the receipts then claim back upon return). NHI can ONLY work IF ALL CONTRIBUTED. But you cannot copy such a system in SA based on simple math, i.e. taking into account massive numbers of people UNABLE to contribute.
Exactly.
Government already covers TB healthcare, in fact it's one of the few parts of the system that seems to work pretty well.
Source: Got sick with TB, got treated at a public clinic after my GP referred me because the practice wasn't allowed to deal with it.
Today there is a shortage of TB pills everywhere, why? because cardres must eat. Source: My Fiance who works in a hospital (for now atleast)
@@asouthafricanguy2697 I can believe that, a lot can change in two years and the main changes in SA have been for the worse since 2021...
Rather than bring the masses to private hospitals instead take business South Africa into the state hospitals to better manage the mismanaged state hospitals successfully and in so doing eliminate the corruption enabling a much improved health care service for all to benefit.
Healthcare will stay exactly as it is now, the taxpayer will just be forced to pay more taxes
Good speech. Alas, it won't help.
NHI bill DESIGNED to FAIL .
The law in court is the law...no chance...
What you are not aware of is that for as long as it remains on the court roles it can't be implemented.
The ANC has succeeded in destroying what once was a country with so much potential. I have seen what we are to become just by travelling north of the border to a number of African countries. Honestly, just leave SA, there is no more hope for it, start making plans for a better future elsewhere.
We urgenlty need another goverment this one is now stupidly corrupt - every decision is a mess the ANC makes I wish we can have a general election A.S.P. !!đ„
Heaven forbid.
This Is A Disaster They Now Can't Cope With The Public Hospitals Thats A Disgrace Already, Sorry This Is Not Going To Work The Corruption In The Hospitals As Is ,This Is A No đđđ
Correction, they can cope, they just don't want to.
TOTAL DUSASTER JUST LIKE EVERYTHING THE ANC TOUCH! NO, NO, NO!
You cannot destroy that which does not exist, and the healthcare in SA simply does not exist; If you've ever been to Kalafong or Baragwanath you'd know what I mean.
Private hospitals will pop up in Namibia, Botswana and Lesotho. Maybe Zim and Mozambique also. Remember, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
I'm not DA I'm EFF for the first time in my life I say viva DA đź
more funds to be looted by the anc cadres. i'm off discovery health (discover their wealth) đ. despite the long queues and waiting, the end care was good. proper trained staff
South african say no to this useless anc
Ugh this makes me want to through up. South Africans are fed up. Yes please fix the public health care. But it wont be this govt that can/will fix it.
Trying to create the Eskom of healthcare!
Why not just fix and build (rebuild) more public hospitals? Because ANC.
It's a shame and.inconsideration fr further abuse and suffering.May the
C creator of the universe deal justly with these leaders
It is an silly piece of legislation. I wonder who guided ANC on this? Possibly a fifth grader?
It was a white dude that had an idea to centralised information of all data recording of patient to be centralised as one. Meaning that if you are in jhb for a gp appointment. Next week you in cpt. The gp in cpt.can take the.file.of.your records from gp to fully have a record of you and diagnosis. They were using the same fund not more or less but prioritize it via budgets to spread it across everything.
When there is a patient in need of funding. The nh1 fund becomes available to you.
This nh1 is far from over and it definitely going to court to be challenged before it becomes law.
I know of a former BARA intern who wrote an article about the state of the Hospital and the fact that no PPE was inadequately provided during the peak of the COVID pandemic. She was not so politley offered the ultimatum of keeping her article up or keeping her job by the national department of health. Still think theres freedom of speech in this country under ANC oppression?
True story
ANC, ONE MESS AFTER THE OTHERđ
9 million in 60 million people and NHI must scratch for a minority of people, kahle, how many people who use public health department đ.nina nikhalela inkampani zenu zemedical aid.
you dont get it do you? NHI will destroy ALL healthcare. so your 60million will have even less access to it.
Oh no no no no no no no no they need to go now I'm sick of working for corruption
Babies already been put in boxes
More money to loot for ANC
Giving the ANC power of people's health care would be dubious at best. If they can't even keep the lights on, I don't think they have proven themselves capable. This is not simply a question of more money for the government. Singapore runs a universal health care system but runs it efficiently. The ANC can't run anything efficiently as long as they are in control. it's not a question of government vs. private. It's about do you want to be on the operating table with these people in charge of your health care outcomes?? I wouldn't.
I'm voting DA in 2024 and getting tf off this sinking ship. I give up on this country
This will swing a big portion of black middle class voters away from ANC......good news
Only Question you need to ask the people trying to implement the NHI is when last did you use the public healthcare services. The answer will be Never. And it will be backed up by something like but if we get the NHI going we will make the public health care the same as public health care. its like a naughty child who broke his new given working toy on the play ground and now his bullying the child who played nice and looked after his toy kept it clean and kept the part work for his/her toy! Their are humans in this world that can make things work from figuring out and adopting to change,
There will be no middle class left.. they paying for every repair of a failed state.. there must be a slow roll out of NHI with strict governance where the costs of public care sector out peforms that of private sector ,it will spell the death of private care sector .thereby achieving what the NHI is all about , better care for all not only inbthe hands of the rich
It won't happen. We are a failing to failed state. Where will the money come from? From the diminishing tax base?
The aim is to steal the billions held in trust by the Medical Aids.
Anc destoy everything corruption never ends
Seriously what next đ
Saw the guy behind nh1 in sa. It a white dude. He had a talk about how this will work.
There are a few things that i agree with him about nh1 where everything of you health becomes centralised to all healthcare facility. They used the same fund as current budget with priority on budget. Etc.
Alot of unanswered questions on the thought process especially corruption and employing people who are interested in money rather than helping to address the issue of medical care. I agree with the ceo of discovery that it need a multi funding rather than a single funding bill.
In final conclusion. The uk has nh1 as well and it is so corrupted that it doesnt work. If it doesnt work there. How would it work here. There is a few good points made by nh1 especially in database management but corruption is huge in sa and we dont want to fall into the same trap as other soe operations.
While fighting over NHC medical aids gets unaffordable for the average South African??
This sounds like the truth.
But the word "decimate" is quite inadequate. Decimate means to reduce by one tenth. This proposed NHI will not only decimate, but will DEVASTATE!
This is the ANC's biggest scam to date.
What about the other scams.
The govt is not worried they will run overseas for medical treatment as they know medical services will be 3rd rate. Two weeks before implementation of NHI I will cancle my medical which is not near the top ones but its what I can afford at the moment.
Dr's please leave SA. People leave this country