It was pretty trash, tbh. After everything that Michael has paid for and trauma he’s dealt with because Sonny… Sonny has some nerve to say that to his “son”. But Nina hasn’t received this energy though when she’s one that’s responsible for a lot of this mess.
Sonny trying to gaslight Michael into believing that the divorce is on Carly - really? I guess it's not surprising considering he can't possibly stand to truly take responsibility for sleeping with Nina - he and Nina are alike in that way - refusal to take responsibility, they deserve each other.
what about carlys responsbity uyou all think she is a saint just like what u think about saint michael its mind blowing michael is only a saint when doesnt have what he wants until they do and then he acts just like sonny and jax lets be why isnt michael in jail for bribing a us state proscuter
Okay by the end, Sonny DIDN'T TREAT MICHAEL AS SONNY, he talked to him, as if Michael was one of his ENEMIES, LIKE ONE of THE OTHER CRIME FAMILIES!!!!!!! When Sonny says, "....BUT I'M NOT GONNA TO FORGET THIS. AND IF YOU WANT ME TO FORGIVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEG?!?!?!" Sonny's tone immediately changed starting with the words, "BUT...I'M NOT GONNA TO FORGET THIS...." The music came on, and he was treating Michael like a ONE OF HIS ENEMIES as THE CRIME BOSS who heads up the EASTERN SEABOARD, and NOT as a son!!!!!! THAT'S MESSED UP!!!!!! That is NOT the Sonny that was a father to Michael!!!!! It was diabolical!!!!! REALLY?!?!? "YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEG!!!!!" What good father or mother would ever say that to their child. AND yes, I do STILL believe Sonny was Michael's Dad whether it was right or wrong. Mind you maybe you could see some twisted things that are similar with SONNY and HARMONY?!?!?! CRAZY!!!!!!! I don't want Nelle and Willow to be related!!!!! I'm REALLY hoping that comes out wrong.
@@Anomalous602 Sonny DID have his moments!!!!! If it wasn't for Sonny, Michael would've been killed by Nelle in their car accident when he got her to confess, after they crashed, only Nelle could get out. She and Michael knew the car was going to explode and Michael begged her to help him get out. BUT she leaves him there to die!!!!! Sonny was nervous of Michael's plan. In order to get her to confess, Michael kept driving longer and kept speeding while Nelle assumed Chase had put a bomb in the car to be set off after he had dropped Nelle off. BUT she starts to panick when changes their plan and while driving longer and equally speeding, going faster and faster to her to confess, she finally does but also suddenly I think she yanked the steering wheel to stop the car. Sonny decided to follow them or used Michael's GPS, and Sonny gets there and is able to barely get Michael out just before the car explodes!!!!! AND Sonny beats Jason to the PCPB and confesses to Claudia's murder. I believe. Having said that, Jason has a moment when the actual truth comes out that Michael killed Claudia that he was wrong all those years ago. AND that it is Michael who has paid the biggest price with the business. Carly at one point admits to Olivia, that hiding the truth from Sonny and hiding the truth from Dante was the best decision she made for Dante!!!!!! Olivia as a young teenager HAD the sense, that maybe having your kid growing up in the mob wasn't the best the idea. There was a very short stint of a new Carly who NEVER FIT!!!!!!! She was a walking disaster!!!!!! AND Emily speaks to Jason about her and at that time, Michael was being used a pawn. BUT...I don't know, cause the Q's back then and how Tracy would treat Jason, BOTH the Qs and the Corinthos were NOT GREAT!!!!!! NOR A.J.
Laid that "as my son..." "I love you..." "...I'm always gonna love you..." on there thick only to make demands you don't deserve to be considered for. I guess that unconditional love for your son has some conditions there huh, Sonny? How pathetic. Throw this whole "new Smike" away...
Childhood trauma and parental narcissistic abuse is a very real thing. Unfortunately, Michael is a victim of this, point blank, so Sonny essentially threatening him right after claiming to love him is beyond disturbing. It's narcissistic abuse to the max. I've said this before.... Sonny is 100% a classic example of a character (or person) perpetuating parental narcissistic abuse. Sadly, he was abused and witnessed abuse, and despite being victimized himself, he internalized that anger and positioned himself to be "powerful" and have control over others. He can't take being challenged and lacks self-awareness, often inflicting pain on others and never taking true responsibility for his behavior (Nina and a few other characters on the show fit this profile, too). Michael is the classic example of a child of someone like this who somehow is able to cultivate self-awareness and works on stopping those generational cycles of abuse (even if he isn't linked by DNA to Sonny). Michael may not be perfect because he has to deprogram the toxicity he learned from his parental figures in childhood.... and he sometimes falls slightly backward into toxic behaviors when trauma is retriggered.... but he's far more emotionally stable than Sonny and Carly because he worked on himself. Though, honestly, I'm starting to see Carly follow in his footsteps, which sometimes happens in the parent/child dynamic when the child breaks toxic cycles.... the parent learns from them. And, here's the thing.... Michael is constantly criticized (by fans) for taking Sonny's side occasionly and is essentially blamed for claiming Sonny as his father despite everything that happened with AJ. Michael was stolen from AJ and was raised with Sonny (and Carly's) skewed perception of the world. That's NOT his fault. And, as he's gotten older, we've witnessed him question his background and how he was raised a lot and work on healing those traumas. Yet, despite everything, Michael still loves Sonny because that's the father who raised him. People shouldn't blame the child for unconditionally loving the parent. However, what we are seeing with Michael is him extracting himself from that narcissistic abuse, despite loving his father. He's attempting to set boundaries and he has every right to do that because HE'S the victim of his father's selfishness over the years. For some, it may seem odd that this may be the situation that is the last straw for Michael. But, after years of forgiving someone for abhorrent behavior, sometimes it only takes seemingly less awful behavior (this situation as compared to Sonny killing AJ) to break the camel's back. Plus, as a father himself now, Michael is much less willing to deal with the type of behavior both Sonny and Nina exhibit.
YES TO ALL OF THIS. Michael loves Sonny, but he’s a victim of Sonny’s abuse. For Sonny to say I love you then immediately threaten Michael moments later because he didn’t get his way is abuse. People think Michael will just move on. It’s not the same as before. Michael’s a father now. He has to think about his son.
@@KirBluSky90 can i ask you something about michael. i can see what you are talking about but i also can what sonny is saying to sonny grow up watching his step father hitting his mom and when his real father came on Sonny didn't give him enough of respact. So i'm sying michael can do whatever he wants or cut his father out of his life but he still loves him deep down he may not show it or care anymore i know he does
Job well done once again, Sonny. Couldn’t take responsibility for his actions like and fess up like a grown ass man. He’s got nobody to blame but himself.
Well sorry but I don’t think Sony did anything to Michael. He fell in love with another woman other then his wife that happens all the time and adult children don’t freak out.
@@sherrylessen Sonny's feelings about Nina does not mean that Michael has to like, forgive or trust Nina. Michael wants to keep his child away from Nina for all those reasons and Sonny is clearly picking Nina's side over Michaels....and trying to recruit people behind Michael's back. Sonny crossed the line and has made his choice over who is the only person that he truly cares about (currently) keeping in his life.
@@sherrylessen Sonny fell in love with his abductor that intentionally hurt his family for months. Then, he wants to preach being loyal and family first. Sonny’s such a joke. Michael or anyone else in Sonny’s family doesn’t have to get over it. Sonny and Nina refuse to take responsibility for the mess that they’ve caused. It doesn’t matter that Sonny moved on. His family had to grieve longer than they should’ve because of Nina. Sonny’s family, including Michael doesn’t have to move on. Michael’s girlfriend and son have constantly been put in the middle of Sonny and Nina’s mess. He had every right to be angry. He’s protecting his family. A trait that Sonny allegedly used to admire about a person.
@@KirBluSky90 Sony could have found out who he was anytime. Even Maurice said that, and that he didn’t want to. Even when he went for his bipolar meds the doctor could of helped him. The issue is he wasn’t ready to face his old life. Nina encouraged him to find out who he was. Abduction talk about Luke and Laura falling in love when he raped her.
@@soccergirl4everbrady944 I’ve been done with the Sonny character ever since he killed AJ and did everything by covering it up knowing how Michael would feel and not being a man of his words.
@@Anomalous602 do you think Michael is really done with him 🤔 I mean that time he killed aj Michael was done with him but this time just seems different I hope he is done with him and means it oh and what sonny saying by son like Michael did something to him
Forgive what? What did Michael do that he needs to be forgiven? Michael did what any son would do, he sided with his mother. That's usually the result in a situation such as this, the children take the mother's side. He should be proud that Michael is standing by his mother given what Sonny put Carly through but it doesn't benefit him and it doesn't benefit Nina. It's all about helping that waif gain access to Wiley and Carly was right when she told Nina that Wiley's not missing her. That boy has a large, extended family with a couple of grandmother's (Carly and Monica) he isn't thinking about Nina.
@@patrickacosta7031 Michael is using whatever excuse to get back at sonny on making this more personal, when this is more of Carly’s problem to wanna get back at Sonny than anything. Now if michael wanted to get back at sonny make it a more strong and personal reason like the fact he murdered AJ in cold blood but yet Michael was stupid enough to forgive him for that.
First Carly and Joss. Today Michael. Tomorrow it looks like Sonny is about to take it out on Dante (who has been the most patient with Sonny so far). I can't see Kristina warming up to Nina, so Sonny is on his way to finding himself with no one but Nina. Honestly, the dead attempted robber, is probably just the first step into Nina realizing that she can't handle the murdering Sonny side. So Sonny may eventually find himself completely alone.
I wonder how Kristina will react. She SHOULD hate Nina, but she’s also got some bad daddy issues that might make her cool with it if it’s what Sonny wants lol
you all need to understand that the writing for this show is stupid they were looking to break up sonny and carly any ways u just had that vibe i think maurice needs to walk away they are screwing up his charchter so bad
2:23 Because Michael you should've never forgave him for killing your biological dad and you want nothing to do with the mob business. I wouldn't want Willow or Wiley to be anywhere near Sonny or the mob business either if I were him. Michael should change his name back to Quartermaine for all those reasons.
Michael’s gonna have to beg for your forgiveness, Sonny? What, like you have begged for his forgiveness? Sonny refuses to even acknowledge that he has done anything that needs to be forgiven.
Let’s be honest this is why many people wanted the sonny character gone and not come back because he’s always been this way to never take fault or blame on anything he does especially when past experience speaks volume.
@@Anomalous602 I’ve always said: Sonny is not sustainable as a character for this long. They’ve done everything they can with him: put him with a thousand women, had him cheat on a thousand women, given him ten thousand children, had him shot about forty times, had him shoot a hundred men (including his own son), had endless characters sing his praises and forgive him again and again. Now we have this mess because they’ve run out of ideas and refuse to admit that Sonny is really a villain. He’s not even an antihero. He’s an emotionally abusive, narcissistic, childish villain… At this point, the only thing to do with his character is turn him into the Big Bad. Otherwise, write him off.
When Sonny is really wrong, he likes to point fingers at everyone's role and ignore his own actions. Carly divorced me.....you cheated on her. Olivia didn't tell me he was son.....you shot him. Franco told Michael that I killed AJ....you slept with his fiancee and said you should kill him for knowing that you murdered AJ. Michal disowned me.....you killed AJ and lied about it. The list could go on and on and on.
This is why I feel like the true sonny died the moment he betrayed his best friend Jason by sleeping with Carly and since than wasn’t the same person that stood by a code anymore.
i agree but those people were also wrong nina warned her what would happen and lets be honest i dont carly was happy sonny came back she wanted that happily ever after with jason she has always wanted jason over sonny and oh aj was a dirtbag at least sonny didnt shoot his father in back or fake a childs death to torture michaels own mother or push a pregnet women down the stairs and im sorry it wasnt an accident he hated carly the last thing he nearly killed is brother twice once the drinking and driving accident 2 he almost shot him oh sonny gets away with alot what aj murder attepted murder stealing money from the familys own company arson and god knows what else
"If you want me to forgive, you're going to have to beg." A true narcissist. He's the one who always has to be in the right - even when he is dead wrong.
@@Anomalous602 You've been all up in these comments running your mouth. Explain. What does he need to take "responsibility" for? He's not responsible for how these grown ass people are reacting. He slept with Nina, Carly filed for divorce, Sonny signed the papers, the divorce is finalized. It's done. What more do you people expect him to do? Say "OMG! I hate Nina! How many hoops do I need to jump through for you to take me back?" Is that what "taking responsibility" means to you people? Otherwise, there is no point in this. The family didn't break up because of the divorce. The family broke up because of everyone's decision to hang on to the resentment rather than move past it.
Sonny’s still acting stupid with this ‘time’ stuff. SHE. ASKED. FOR. TIME. You didn’t want to give her time until she caught you in bed with Nina!!! Carly sleeping with Jax five years ago is irrelevant. You still wanted her back after that and even renewed your vows and had another baby with her. If you’re gonna bring that up as a way to defend your actions, you shouldn’t have gotten back with her if you didn’t fully forgive that. At least Carly didn’t sleep with Jax after knowing he took advantage of her amnesia by keeping her away from her family and husband. Sleeping with Jax mainly only hurt you, not everyone in the family including you.
Thank you for saying this because I totally agree. I laughed when Sonny brought up when Carly slept with Jax the hypocrisy smh. Since he wants to bring that up let’s not forget Sonny slept with Martina that lawyer from California.
Yes Carly slept with Jax, and Sonny caught them, BUT at the time, Sonny and Carly believed that Sonny was to blame for Morgan's death!!!!!!!!! (. The situation was very different )
@@samuelmorgan7319 of course it’s wrong in both situations and no excuse covers all but that doesn’t mean you can’t mention circumstances that were noteworthily different. Sonny didn’t just cheat, he dove headfirst into a pool of immorality and blame shifting that he’s still drowning in.
Rather sonny Changed or not he’s still the same especially when past experiences says he’s always been the same no matter losing his memories at the time. Michael better make it stick this time because when he washed his hands of sonny it was the fact he killed AJ and let’s be honest sonny doesn’t have a code of honor that died a long time ago in the late 90s/00s when he rise’d up to power. The only person who live by Sonny’s code is Jason because he was taught by sonny in his prime when he stood for something.
I don’t blame Michael for not wanting to have anything to do with sonny sonny should know that Carly kids is gon stand by her it’s funny that sonny didn’t want the divorce but yet he slept with Nina and he expected her to stay with him get outta here sonny talking about he is still loyal TO WHO cause it ain’t your family you treated your ex wife like trash and going against your son all because of Nina I hope all this blows up in sonnys face and he be the one begging for forgiveness
Michael is so angry at his father and sunny does know that he just making things worse between you and your son right now at this time he needs his uncle Jason or uncle Drew
I’d rather they didn’t, though… Michael is so much more fun when he’s hating on Sonny, because nothing bothers Sonny like Michael being mad at him. And Sonny is a grade-A *ss.
This hole scene reminds me of Patrick being with Sam and Sabrina Because everyone thought That Robin had Died and When Robin came Back Patrick was about going to married Sabrina until He was Shocked for actually seeing Robin alive Then He had to have Seaconds thoughts That what He should do by getting back with Robin or stay with Sabrina. Robin and Sabrina did But Heads for A while until Patrick Choose who he wanted to be with and They stay pretty good friends until Patrick and robin moved away
Ummmm I'm sorry Sonny Corinthos is the ONLY.Corinthos I'm ever going to acknowledge!! Michael go back to being a Quartermaine. Carly go back to the last name Jax or Benson or whatever.
Lol that puss hasn’t begged a day in his life! Don’t you see his surprised face when Michael brought up that he took two seconds to cheat? Sonny thinks he only gets to end the marriage over cheating lmao. Cheers, Michael! Keep on keeping! 🥂
Lol. Sonny is the one that goes to Michael. Michael doesn’t seek him out. Maybe Sonny will take a hint. Sonny isn’t sorry. Sonny just says it and hopes Michael will get over him being trash and taking responsibility for this mess.
Soon Michael will learn that willow is very sick and the baby is also in danger Dante will tell sonny let's see if sonny finally puts Michael first & just shows up Michael going to need his dad I want sonny tell Michael he loves him & he is sorry he hurt him but he is here now he will be right here with him
It going to the other way around Sonny. You just made yourself weaker for your enemies to come after you. Nina is manipulating you and your falling for it. Michael has been one your biggest supporter, you of all past hurt and Defender of you. Sonny you forget how much your family members turn to Micheal to holding the family together and once's they about wanting him to beg for forgiveness you'll lose your family. All because Michael decided stand with his mother. Thank God Morgan is right now there , because he be going off the roof after you Sonny. Sonny needs to get the straight he used on AJ and put it on himself there something wrong with his mental health and it's not just bipolar. I do seeing Michael will have to save Sonny business when Ms.Wu try's to take over. As anger he has for Sonny he wouldn't Brad's Aunt to run the crime under either. Plus I wonder how long until Michael finds out that Sonny help brad get parole!?
I can't stand Michael hes not grateful a b******. You need to stay out of it cause. Carly's no victim Sonny was wrong how he handled things but Conner reminds me of the storyline that Carly was in a coma and woke up and start having feelings for sonny's enemy. I wish they kept michael in the coma and mark in on the show cause this character is pissing me off
all this hate for sonny in the comments below, is because sonny want hate Nina, he chose to move past it and get on with his life, but Carly and Micheal want him to destroy Nina and make her pay, so y'all rooting for Micheal because sonny want hate and destroy Nina, smh
They weren’t asking for much given the situation… just justice and acknowledgement of the intentional pain, grief, and danger she inflicted on them all for a year to suit her own personal desire… Sonny wasn’t the only person Nina hurt
This Hole Mess Started With Jax and Carly for Keeping The truth about Nina's Dauthger A seret From Her and When She Came To NF She Didn't even know he was alive when Nina Called Carly about Sonny being alive Carly Rip in to Nina. The Family chose not to Listen about Sonny Being alive Then Nina chose to Lie to them about that. That's Because Sonny Had Told Nina not to reach out to his family Because He didn't Know He Had A family Then. Sonny Has not Prossed on rember everything yet and He didn't rember He Had A wife He thought His Wife was Nina Until He gain His Meromis Back so That's not Nina's Fauilt
@@LiveOutLoud321 you can't argue with Facts and can't Accused us of making excuses cause that really did happen and that's how i saw it to and the wirters are wirting Sonny turning to be like Julian use to Be i'm actullay surpise with Ava and olvlia and brook lynn cause They are still friends with Sonny
He didn't bribe a DA or he'd be in prison. And yea he punched buddy in the face, he deserved it but he was still arrested for it. So, what exactly is your point?
I read on of storeyline s that sonnyvwas rethinking what he done sonny why didn't you think of this before you do it and Michael I agree with you 100 percent sonny you would rather stab your owe family in the back over a nasty person as Nina sonny
what's wrong with all of you guys saying that michael is right to cut sonny out of his life he is so wrong. michael hasn't been this angry sense 2011 when Abby died and he lushed out at everyone else. the only parson That sonny made it clear and confess about everything was to carly herself and michael doesn't even know phillis
Uhhh no. Michael was angriest in 2014 when Sonny SHOT AJ DEAD and then literally had sex on his grave! Michael should never have forgiven him back then, and he shouldn’t forgive him now. If you still root for Sonny… fine. But at least acknowledge how obvious it is why other people do not 🤷🏽♀️
@@sethvanderbroek8475 What does "fixing" have to do with it? Sonny treats his family like pond scum... it shouldn't surprise him if that family doesn't want to associate with him. Guess what? It's not Michael's "job" to have a relationship with someone who is selfish and abusive. THAT's not his job lol
@@cheetahinireland18 Michael cant tell Sonny on How to treat other people. I just don't Like when Michael gets angry That's All Cause He just doesn't Lush out at Sonny He also Lushes out on other People to and It seems Like Carly Might Defind Sonny To Michael for what Harmony Doing To Her and other people just to keep The Truth about Willow
@@sethvanderbroek8475 Uhhhh it's about how Sonny is treating his FAMILY (Michael included) like yesterday's trash, not some random people lol. You want to defend someone who is as abusive as Sonny? Your perogative, man... but again, I don't know why you find it shocking that a lot of the audience hates Sonny. He's not a good guy, he's done some disgusting things on the show, and there are plenty of reasons to hate him. Bottom line.
Michael acts like a female. Jason would never get involved like Michael has. I dont like what sonny did to carly with nina but he had a point with the whole carly and jax thing. Michael should've stayed out of their marriage issues. He knows how off and on his parents are.
Acts like a female?? The most sexist comment and it doesn’t even make sense. All the childhood trauma sonny has caused that Michael has had to endure cause of sonny but it’s the child’s fault not the parent??? The parent that killed other father. Please Michael should be so pissed off
@@maliamalis6389 the thing is Michael was all for sonny and loved him so much Until he found out about him wanting to be with Nina. None of that stuff you named mattered when sonny was back from the dead. It got brought up after sonny betrayed carly. Lets face it, Eventually carly and sonny will get back together and Michael will be up sonnys ass again claiming to love him blah blah blah. Michael has been acting off nothing but emotions since aj died. Which makes him seem weak and out of control. The character is very unlikeable. Hes gotten better since he found out about willow but hes still annoying af. Everybody hates sonny and what he does until they need him for something.
“You’re gonna have to beg” was a craaaazzzzyyyy line !!! Dannnggg! 😮
It was pretty trash, tbh. After everything that Michael has paid for and trauma he’s dealt with because Sonny… Sonny has some nerve to say that to his “son”. But Nina hasn’t received this energy though when she’s one that’s responsible for a lot of this mess.
Sonny trying to gaslight Michael into believing that the divorce is on Carly - really? I guess it's not surprising considering he can't possibly stand to truly take responsibility for sleeping with Nina - he and Nina are alike in that way - refusal to take responsibility, they deserve each other.
💯A father saying he loves his son , afterwards he wants the son to beg for forgives .
Nina and Sonny sound like people who suffer from «folie à deux », madness of two , they are delusional.
@@lydiepelletier6207 this is exactly why Michael should’ve never forgiven sonny after he killed aj.
what about carlys responsbity uyou all think she is a saint just like what u think about saint michael its mind blowing michael is only a saint when doesnt have what he wants until they do and then he acts just like sonny and jax lets be why isnt michael in jail for bribing a us state proscuter
@@samuelmorgan7319 in this regard, Carly wasn’t the reason Sonny bedded Nina. What are y’all talking about?
Okay by the end, Sonny DIDN'T TREAT MICHAEL AS SONNY, he talked to him, as if Michael was one of his ENEMIES, LIKE ONE of THE OTHER CRIME FAMILIES!!!!!!! When Sonny says, "....BUT I'M NOT GONNA TO FORGET THIS. AND IF YOU WANT ME TO FORGIVE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEG?!?!?!" Sonny's tone immediately changed starting with the words, "BUT...I'M NOT GONNA TO FORGET THIS...." The music came on, and he was treating Michael like a ONE OF HIS ENEMIES as THE CRIME BOSS who heads up the EASTERN SEABOARD, and NOT as a son!!!!!! THAT'S MESSED UP!!!!!! That is NOT the Sonny that was a father to Michael!!!!! It was diabolical!!!!! REALLY?!?!? "YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEG!!!!!" What good father or mother would ever say that to their child. AND yes, I do STILL believe Sonny was Michael's Dad whether it was right or wrong.
Mind you maybe you could see some twisted things that are similar with SONNY and HARMONY?!?!?! CRAZY!!!!!!! I don't want Nelle and Willow to be related!!!!! I'm REALLY hoping that comes out wrong.
Let’s be honest sonny was never a good father to Michael, it was always Jason.
@@Anomalous602 Sonny DID have his moments!!!!! If it wasn't for Sonny, Michael would've been killed by Nelle in their car accident when he got her to confess, after they crashed, only Nelle could get out. She and Michael knew the car was going to explode and Michael begged her to help him get out. BUT she leaves him there to die!!!!! Sonny was nervous of Michael's plan. In order to get her to confess, Michael kept driving longer and kept speeding while Nelle assumed Chase had put a bomb in the car to be set off after he had dropped Nelle off. BUT she starts to panick when changes their plan and while driving longer and equally speeding, going faster and faster to her to confess, she finally does but also suddenly I think she yanked the steering wheel to stop the car. Sonny decided to follow them or used Michael's GPS, and Sonny gets there and is able to barely get Michael out just before the car explodes!!!!!
AND Sonny beats Jason to the PCPB and confesses to Claudia's murder. I believe.
Having said that, Jason has a moment when the actual truth comes out that Michael killed Claudia that he was wrong all those years ago. AND that it is Michael who has paid the biggest price with the business.
Carly at one point admits to Olivia, that hiding the truth from Sonny and hiding the truth from Dante was the best decision she made for Dante!!!!!! Olivia as a young teenager HAD the sense, that maybe having your kid growing up in the mob wasn't the best the idea.
There was a very short stint of a new Carly who NEVER FIT!!!!!!! She was a walking disaster!!!!!! AND Emily speaks to Jason about her and at that time, Michael was being used a pawn.
BUT...I don't know, cause the Q's back then and how Tracy would treat Jason, BOTH the Qs and the Corinthos were NOT GREAT!!!!!! NOR A.J.
Michael gotta beg for forgiveness but Nina don’t 🤨 *Bich Bye! Bich BYE!*
Right!!
Laid that "as my son..." "I love you..." "...I'm always gonna love you..." on there thick only to make demands you don't deserve to be considered for.
I guess that unconditional love for your son has some conditions there huh, Sonny? How pathetic. Throw this whole "new Smike" away...
Michael was savage in this scene but Sonny had it coming.
He STILL has it coming and his name is Mike
@@sianaleilani sonny need apcet he lost his son for good .
Childhood trauma and parental narcissistic abuse is a very real thing. Unfortunately, Michael is a victim of this, point blank, so Sonny essentially threatening him right after claiming to love him is beyond disturbing. It's narcissistic abuse to the max.
I've said this before.... Sonny is 100% a classic example of a character (or person) perpetuating parental narcissistic abuse. Sadly, he was abused and witnessed abuse, and despite being victimized himself, he internalized that anger and positioned himself to be "powerful" and have control over others. He can't take being challenged and lacks self-awareness, often inflicting pain on others and never taking true responsibility for his behavior (Nina and a few other characters on the show fit this profile, too). Michael is the classic example of a child of someone like this who somehow is able to cultivate self-awareness and works on stopping those generational cycles of abuse (even if he isn't linked by DNA to Sonny). Michael may not be perfect because he has to deprogram the toxicity he learned from his parental figures in childhood.... and he sometimes falls slightly backward into toxic behaviors when trauma is retriggered.... but he's far more emotionally stable than Sonny and Carly because he worked on himself. Though, honestly, I'm starting to see Carly follow in his footsteps, which sometimes happens in the parent/child dynamic when the child breaks toxic cycles.... the parent learns from them.
And, here's the thing.... Michael is constantly criticized (by fans) for taking Sonny's side occasionly and is essentially blamed for claiming Sonny as his father despite everything that happened with AJ. Michael was stolen from AJ and was raised with Sonny (and Carly's) skewed perception of the world. That's NOT his fault. And, as he's gotten older, we've witnessed him question his background and how he was raised a lot and work on healing those traumas. Yet, despite everything, Michael still loves Sonny because that's the father who raised him. People shouldn't blame the child for unconditionally loving the parent. However, what we are seeing with Michael is him extracting himself from that narcissistic abuse, despite loving his father. He's attempting to set boundaries and he has every right to do that because HE'S the victim of his father's selfishness over the years. For some, it may seem odd that this may be the situation that is the last straw for Michael. But, after years of forgiving someone for abhorrent behavior, sometimes it only takes seemingly less awful behavior (this situation as compared to Sonny killing AJ) to break the camel's back. Plus, as a father himself now, Michael is much less willing to deal with the type of behavior both Sonny and Nina exhibit.
YES TO ALL OF THIS. Michael loves Sonny, but he’s a victim of Sonny’s abuse. For Sonny to say I love you then immediately threaten Michael moments later because he didn’t get his way is abuse. People think Michael will just move on. It’s not the same as before. Michael’s a father now. He has to think about his son.
Yup that's what I said. But you said it more eloquently.
@@KirBluSky90 can i ask you something about michael. i can see what you are talking about but i also can what sonny is saying to sonny grow up watching his step father hitting his mom and when his real father came on Sonny didn't give him enough of respact. So i'm sying michael can do whatever he wants or cut his father out of his life but he still loves him deep down he may not show it or care anymore i know he does
Feel so bad for Sonny here with this spoiled Kid who has serious faults disowns him absolutely sickens me
The hug at the end ❤️
The things is Carly wouldn't want any of her kids to be mad at Sonny. But in the end of the day Michael and Joss are grown now so it's up to them
Holy crap!!! He Legit doesn’t see what he did to his family! Damn Michael isn’t playing, Jason needs to come back asap
Michael is not joking hie is dead serious
@@nalanidavenasingh yes and sonny is showing how much of a piece a 💩 father he is!! He didn’t treat his kidnapper this way and she done worst smh
@@Elizabeth-XO yes! all of this!
He is supposed to come back in May I hope
What the hell is Jason going to do? Jason loyalty was too Sonny.
Job well done once again, Sonny. Couldn’t take responsibility for his actions like and fess up like a grown ass man. He’s got nobody to blame but himself.
Well sorry but I don’t think Sony did anything to Michael. He fell in love with another woman other then his wife that happens all the time and adult children don’t freak out.
@@sherrylessen yeah, but rather a child is grown up they don’t like seeing a mom or dad hurt by what someone did.
@@sherrylessen Sonny's feelings about Nina does not mean that Michael has to like, forgive or trust Nina. Michael wants to keep his child away from Nina for all those reasons and Sonny is clearly picking Nina's side over Michaels....and trying to recruit people behind Michael's back. Sonny crossed the line and has made his choice over who is the only person that he truly cares about (currently) keeping in his life.
@@sherrylessen Sonny fell in love with his abductor that intentionally hurt his family for months. Then, he wants to preach being loyal and family first. Sonny’s such a joke. Michael or anyone else in Sonny’s family doesn’t have to get over it. Sonny and Nina refuse to take responsibility for the mess that they’ve caused. It doesn’t matter that Sonny moved on. His family had to grieve longer than they should’ve because of Nina. Sonny’s family, including Michael doesn’t have to move on. Michael’s girlfriend and son have constantly been put in the middle of Sonny and Nina’s mess. He had every right to be angry. He’s protecting his family. A trait that Sonny allegedly used to admire about a person.
@@KirBluSky90 Sony could have found out who he was anytime. Even Maurice said that, and that he didn’t want to. Even when he went for his bipolar meds the doctor could of helped him. The issue is he wasn’t ready to face his old life. Nina encouraged him to find out who he was. Abduction talk about Luke and Laura falling in love when he raped her.
Willow just awkwardly standing there listening to them have it out.
I feel for her but now she sees the dysfunctional side of the Corothos Family
@Derrick Fisher Jr. Dante isn't going to do that. He doesn't care, about Carly.
I would’ve grabbed some popcorn lol
Wow just hearing sonny talk is making my stomach hurt good Good for you Michael hearing sonny say that Michael would have to beg for forgiveness ha!!
If anyone should be begging for forgiveness is sonny for everything he put Michael through.
@@Anomalous602 hu yea I am sooooo done with him!! Go be with your special nina!!
@@soccergirl4everbrady944 I’ve been done with the Sonny character ever since he killed AJ and did everything by covering it up knowing how Michael would feel and not being a man of his words.
@@Anomalous602 do you think Michael is really done with him 🤔 I mean that time he killed aj Michael was done with him but this time just seems different I hope he is done with him and means it oh and what sonny saying by son like Michael did something to him
Forgive what? What did Michael do that he needs to be forgiven? Michael did what any son would do, he sided with his mother. That's usually the result in a situation such as this, the children take the mother's side. He should be proud that Michael is standing by his mother given what Sonny put Carly through but it doesn't benefit him and it doesn't benefit Nina. It's all about helping that waif gain access to Wiley and Carly was right when she told Nina that Wiley's not missing her. That boy has a large, extended family with a couple of grandmother's (Carly and Monica) he isn't thinking about Nina.
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Once again sonny is not taking blame of anything and just shifting it, to justify his actions which is ridiculous since he always been a cheater.
Not all children will side with their mothers. It really depends on the situation.
@@patrickacosta7031 Michael is using whatever excuse to get back at sonny on making this more personal, when this is more of Carly’s problem to wanna get back at Sonny than anything. Now if michael wanted to get back at sonny make it a more strong and personal reason like the fact he murdered AJ in cold blood but yet Michael was stupid enough to forgive him for that.
@@patrickacosta7031
This is true but majority of children usually always side with their mother.
First Carly and Joss. Today Michael. Tomorrow it looks like Sonny is about to take it out on Dante (who has been the most patient with Sonny so far). I can't see Kristina warming up to Nina, so Sonny is on his way to finding himself with no one but Nina. Honestly, the dead attempted robber, is probably just the first step into Nina realizing that she can't handle the murdering Sonny side. So Sonny may eventually find himself completely alone.
I wonder how Kristina will react. She SHOULD hate Nina, but she’s also got some bad daddy issues that might make her cool with it if it’s what Sonny wants lol
@@cheetahinireland18 Kristina might be his only hope. One who might actually forgive him.
you all need to understand that the writing for this show is stupid they were looking to break up sonny and carly any ways u just had that vibe i think maurice needs to walk away they are screwing up his charchter so bad
2:23 Because Michael you should've never forgave him for killing your biological dad and you want nothing to do with the mob business.
I wouldn't want Willow or Wiley to be anywhere near Sonny or the mob business either if I were him.
Michael should change his name back to Quartermaine for all those reasons.
Michael’s gonna have to beg for your forgiveness, Sonny? What, like you have begged for his forgiveness? Sonny refuses to even acknowledge that he has done anything that needs to be forgiven.
I never thought I see Sonny choose a woman over his son
Let’s be honest this is why many people wanted the sonny character gone and not come back because he’s always been this way to never take fault or blame on anything he does especially when past experience speaks volume.
@@Anomalous602 I’ve always said: Sonny is not sustainable as a character for this long. They’ve done everything they can with him: put him with a thousand women, had him cheat on a thousand women, given him ten thousand children, had him shot about forty times, had him shoot a hundred men (including his own son), had endless characters sing his praises and forgive him again and again. Now we have this mess because they’ve run out of ideas and refuse to admit that Sonny is really a villain. He’s not even an antihero. He’s an emotionally abusive, narcissistic, childish villain… At this point, the only thing to do with his character is turn him into the Big Bad. Otherwise, write him off.
@@warhero99 Umm… That’s how Michael ended up in a coma. Lol.
@@KirBluSky90 That's right I completely forgot about that
When Sonny is really wrong, he likes to point fingers at everyone's role and ignore his own actions.
Carly divorced me.....you cheated on her.
Olivia didn't tell me he was son.....you shot him.
Franco told Michael that I killed AJ....you slept with his fiancee and said you should kill him for knowing that you murdered AJ.
Michal disowned me.....you killed AJ and lied about it.
The list could go on and on and on.
No he not
You're absolutely on point!
This is why I feel like the true sonny died the moment he betrayed his best friend Jason by sleeping with Carly and since than wasn’t the same person that stood by a code anymore.
i agree but those people were also wrong nina warned her what would happen and lets be honest i dont carly was happy sonny came back she wanted that happily ever after with jason she has always wanted jason over sonny and oh aj was a dirtbag at least sonny didnt shoot his father in back or fake a childs death to torture michaels own mother or push a pregnet women down the stairs and im sorry it wasnt an accident he hated carly the last thing he nearly killed is brother twice once the drinking and driving accident 2 he almost shot him oh sonny gets away with alot what aj murder attepted murder stealing money from the familys own company arson and god knows what else
"If you want me to forgive, you're going to have to beg."
A true narcissist. He's the one who always has to be in the right - even when he is dead wrong.
At least willow is there for Michael
Sonny stop making excuses and own up to your mistakes and admit that you messed up damn it!!!!!!
He’s always been like this for years never takes responsibility and own up to his mistakes for years.
@@Anomalous602 You've been all up in these comments running your mouth. Explain. What does he need to take "responsibility" for? He's not responsible for how these grown ass people are reacting. He slept with Nina, Carly filed for divorce, Sonny signed the papers, the divorce is finalized. It's done. What more do you people expect him to do? Say "OMG! I hate Nina! How many hoops do I need to jump through for you to take me back?" Is that what "taking responsibility" means to you people? Otherwise, there is no point in this. The family didn't break up because of the divorce. The family broke up because of everyone's decision to hang on to the resentment rather than move past it.
@@OneLoveRSR 😂!!!
@@OneLoveRSR this is the dumbest comment I’ve read today.
@@kdubbss0583 yes me to
Sonny’s still acting stupid with this ‘time’ stuff. SHE. ASKED. FOR. TIME. You didn’t want to give her time until she caught you in bed with Nina!!! Carly sleeping with Jax five years ago is irrelevant. You still wanted her back after that and even renewed your vows and had another baby with her. If you’re gonna bring that up as a way to defend your actions, you shouldn’t have gotten back with her if you didn’t fully forgive that. At least Carly didn’t sleep with Jax after knowing he took advantage of her amnesia by keeping her away from her family and husband. Sleeping with Jax mainly only hurt you, not everyone in the family including you.
Thank you for saying this because I totally agree. I laughed when Sonny brought up when Carly slept with Jax the hypocrisy smh. Since he wants to bring that up let’s not forget Sonny slept with Martina that lawyer from California.
Exactly
Yes Carly slept with Jax, and Sonny caught them, BUT at the time, Sonny and Carly believed that Sonny was to blame for Morgan's death!!!!!!!!! (. The situation was very different )
so thats a good enough reason nah they were still married same difference ur justifying it cheating is still cheating
@@samuelmorgan7319 of course it’s wrong in both situations and no excuse covers all but that doesn’t mean you can’t mention circumstances that were noteworthily different. Sonny didn’t just cheat, he dove headfirst into a pool of immorality and blame shifting that he’s still drowning in.
and if Sonny recalls, she jumped into bed with Jax because everyone believed he was responsible for Morgan's "death".
Loved that last line from Sonny. Say what you want about the character, but no one can match Maurice Benard’s line delivery!
Rather sonny Changed or not he’s still the same especially when past experiences says he’s always been the same no matter losing his memories at the time. Michael better make it stick this time because when he washed his hands of sonny it was the fact he killed AJ and let’s be honest sonny doesn’t have a code of honor that died a long time ago in the late 90s/00s when he rise’d up to power. The only person who live by Sonny’s code is Jason because he was taught by sonny in his prime when he stood for something.
"... like you never even existed." Whoa that cut deep. Ouch Sonny. You done did it. Ya push Michael too far. Yikes!! Lol even Willow had to winced.
I don’t blame Michael for not wanting to have anything to do with sonny sonny should know that Carly kids is gon stand by her it’s funny that sonny didn’t want the divorce but yet he slept with Nina and he expected her to stay with him get outta here sonny talking about he is still loyal TO WHO cause it ain’t your family you treated your ex wife like trash and going against your son all because of Nina I hope all this blows up in sonnys face and he be the one begging for forgiveness
He still wrong
@@deshawnyancey7840 who wrong
@@ZeeRoberts21 Based on his reply to my comment, he is trying to sell people on the delusion that Sonny is correct and never does anything wrong.
@@BrittneyAngel2010 ah got ya so he probably have did some of the crap sonny has did and got away with it lol 😂
Sunny was never a good father to Michael. Jason was a fool to let him raise him to be his son when he should’ve stayed his father.
Michael is so angry at his father and sunny does know that he just making things worse between you and your son right now at this time he needs his uncle Jason or uncle Drew
He doesn't know what he is doing.
@Derrick Fisher Jr. AJ right
drews just feeding michaels ego he does nothing to help sonnys right he is not jason
You’re the one making excuses for Nina and Michael’s the child? Really, Sonny?!
Ok now I hope you'll finally be ready to upload all of the Harmony scenes of this fun game!!🇯🇵🎮😃
Pointless fighting in the end of the day they are going to get along again -_- million times
I’d rather they didn’t, though… Michael is so much more fun when he’s hating on Sonny, because nothing bothers Sonny like Michael being mad at him. And Sonny is a grade-A *ss.
Mikey always got his moms back...
This hole scene reminds me of Patrick being with Sam and Sabrina Because everyone thought That Robin had Died and When Robin came Back Patrick was about going to married Sabrina until He was Shocked for actually seeing Robin alive Then He had to have Seaconds thoughts That what He should do by getting back with Robin or stay with Sabrina. Robin and Sabrina did But Heads for A while until Patrick Choose who he wanted to be with and They stay pretty good friends until Patrick and robin moved away
Sonny is never to blame for anything is he?
This is the second time that Michael despises and absolutely wants nothing to do with Sonny. Sooner or later something is going to be different.
Michael is such a hypocrite.
Ummmm I'm sorry Sonny Corinthos is the ONLY.Corinthos I'm ever going to acknowledge!! Michael go back to being a Quartermaine. Carly go back to the last name Jax or Benson or whatever.
Or she could change it to Spencer
Sonny u got caught with your pants down....
I’m so over Sonny begging. So bye Michael, until whenever! ✌🏽
Lol that puss hasn’t begged a day in his life! Don’t you see his surprised face when Michael brought up that he took two seconds to cheat? Sonny thinks he only gets to end the marriage over cheating lmao. Cheers, Michael! Keep on keeping! 🥂
Lol. Sonny is the one that goes to Michael. Michael doesn’t seek him out. Maybe Sonny will take a hint. Sonny isn’t sorry. Sonny just says it and hopes Michael will get over him being trash and taking responsibility for this mess.
Micheal is A.J son😂😂
2:26 “I’m not gonna excuse it or gloss it over “ THAT PART this Mike is ridiculous
Wonder what would have happened if Jason wasn’t “dead.”
Soon Michael will learn that willow is very sick and the baby is also in danger Dante will tell sonny let's see if sonny finally puts Michael first & just shows up Michael going to need his dad I want sonny tell Michael he loves him & he is sorry he hurt him but he is here now he will be right here with him
Michael needs to figure out who the hell he is! The man killed your real father and you gave him a pass. Grow up!
does michael know what Sonny Has Done in Nixon falls and why His defing Nina in The frist place
Is that even the real sonny
You hurt his mom what u expect ..
It going to the other way around Sonny. You just made yourself weaker for your enemies to come after you. Nina is manipulating you and your falling for it. Michael has been one your biggest supporter, you of all past hurt and Defender of you. Sonny you forget how much your family members turn to Micheal to holding the family together and once's they about wanting him to beg for forgiveness you'll lose your family. All because Michael decided stand with his mother. Thank God Morgan is right now there , because he be going off the roof after you Sonny.
Sonny needs to get the straight he used on AJ and put it on himself there something wrong with his mental health and it's not just bipolar.
I do seeing Michael will have to save Sonny business when Ms.Wu try's to take over. As anger he has for Sonny he wouldn't Brad's Aunt to run the crime under either. Plus I wonder how long until Michael finds out that Sonny help brad get parole!?
I can't stand Michael hes not grateful a b******. You need to stay out of it cause. Carly's no victim Sonny was wrong how he handled things but Conner reminds me of the storyline that Carly was in a coma and woke up and start having feelings for sonny's enemy. I wish they kept michael in the coma and mark in on the show cause this character is pissing me off
all this hate for sonny in the comments below, is because sonny want hate Nina, he chose to move past it and get on with his life, but Carly and Micheal want him to destroy Nina and make her pay, so y'all rooting for Micheal because sonny want hate and destroy Nina, smh
They weren’t asking for much given the situation… just justice and acknowledgement of the intentional pain, grief, and danger she inflicted on them all for a year to suit her own personal desire… Sonny wasn’t the only person Nina hurt
Willow looks awkward when she’s standing and listening.
Well, Willow may be the one that's going to be having a breakdown soon.
This Hole Mess Started With Jax and Carly for Keeping The truth about Nina's Dauthger A seret From Her and When She Came To NF She Didn't even know he was alive when Nina Called Carly about Sonny being alive Carly Rip in to Nina. The Family chose not to Listen about Sonny Being alive Then Nina chose to Lie to them about that. That's Because Sonny Had Told Nina not to reach out to his family Because He didn't Know He Had A family Then. Sonny Has not Prossed on rember everything yet and He didn't rember He Had A wife He thought His Wife was Nina Until He gain His Meromis Back so That's not Nina's Fauilt
You’re just as good at making invalid excuses as Sonny is lol 😂
@@LiveOutLoud321 you can't argue with Facts and can't Accused us of making excuses cause that really did happen and that's how i saw it to and the wirters are wirting Sonny turning to be like Julian use to Be i'm actullay surpise with Ava and olvlia and brook lynn cause They are still friends with Sonny
I don't always like Sonny, but those last few lines to Michael were awesome.And at least made me like him today, we'll see about tomorrow.
Michael you bribed a DA against NINA and punched a senior in the face you have done crimes as well haha
He’s never killed anyone or chose the person who destroyed a family over his own family and kids and wife
He didn't bribe a DA or he'd be in prison. And yea he punched buddy in the face, he deserved it but he was still arrested for it. So, what exactly is your point?
Haha is so childish. Can you compare that to sonny killing Michael’s father??
@@sydneygambrell5278 thank you
I read on of storeyline s that sonnyvwas rethinking what he done sonny why didn't you think of this before you do it and Michael I agree with you 100 percent sonny you would rather stab your owe family in the back over a nasty person as Nina sonny
what's wrong with all of you guys saying that michael is right to cut sonny out of his life he is so wrong. michael hasn't been this angry sense 2011 when Abby died and he lushed out at everyone else. the only parson That sonny made it clear and confess about everything was to carly herself and michael doesn't even know phillis
Uhhh no. Michael was angriest in 2014 when Sonny SHOT AJ DEAD and then literally had sex on his grave! Michael should never have forgiven him back then, and he shouldn’t forgive him now. If you still root for Sonny… fine. But at least acknowledge how obvious it is why other people do not 🤷🏽♀️
@@cheetahinireland18 it’s not Michael job to fix Sonny that’s his business
@@sethvanderbroek8475 What does "fixing" have to do with it? Sonny treats his family like pond scum... it shouldn't surprise him if that family doesn't want to associate with him. Guess what? It's not Michael's "job" to have a relationship with someone who is selfish and abusive. THAT's not his job lol
@@cheetahinireland18 Michael cant tell Sonny on How to treat other people. I just don't Like when Michael gets angry That's All Cause He just doesn't Lush out at Sonny He also Lushes out on other People to and It seems Like Carly Might Defind Sonny To Michael for what Harmony Doing To Her and other people just to keep The Truth about Willow
@@sethvanderbroek8475 Uhhhh it's about how Sonny is treating his FAMILY (Michael included) like yesterday's trash, not some random people lol. You want to defend someone who is as abusive as Sonny? Your perogative, man... but again, I don't know why you find it shocking that a lot of the audience hates Sonny. He's not a good guy, he's done some disgusting things on the show, and there are plenty of reasons to hate him. Bottom line.
Michael acts like a female. Jason would never get involved like Michael has. I dont like what sonny did to carly with nina but he had a point with the whole carly and jax thing. Michael should've stayed out of their marriage issues. He knows how off and on his parents are.
Acts like a female?? The most sexist comment and it doesn’t even make sense. All the childhood trauma sonny has caused that Michael has had to endure cause of sonny but it’s the child’s fault not the parent??? The parent that killed other father. Please Michael should be so pissed off
@@maliamalis6389 the thing is Michael was all for sonny and loved him so much Until he found out about him wanting to be with Nina. None of that stuff you named mattered when sonny was back from the dead. It got brought up after sonny betrayed carly. Lets face it, Eventually carly and sonny will get back together and Michael will be up sonnys ass again claiming to love him blah blah blah. Michael has been acting off nothing but emotions since aj died. Which makes him seem weak and out of control. The character is very unlikeable. Hes gotten better since he found out about willow but hes still annoying af. Everybody hates sonny and what he does until they need him for something.