The 3-YEAR HUNT for our NEW TRIMARAN | Sailing Soulianis - Ep 113
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- For the past 3+ years we’ve been secretly on the hunt for our next boat. Last episode we talked about what kind of boat we’re looking for - a trailerable trimaran! - and why we think it’s the best next boat for us. (Want to see it? • Our NEXT BOAT Solves A... ) In this ep we take you time traveling to tour three different trimarans.
Will one of them be our next boat? 😬
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Hey guys, there's another easy answer... dropping the floors on an F31/32/33 have all been done to accommodate headroom! I can talk you through this if you want. Also pros & cons of C36/37 as a trailerable. Went through all of this as we've owned F27, F25c and built the F39. So good to see your excitement for flying a hull!
Hey Greg! We did a ton of due diligence on this one. The first F33 we saw had the floor, and of the two we saw in Sarasota one did and the other did not (the newer MHD F33 in Sarasota did not). The headroom was definitely better without the floor. I'd call it acceptable, but not 100% comfortable.
Final boat they found has been a good choice, the story telling is great!
Cheers Warren
Oh man, that cliffhanger at the end lol. Thanks for sharing your story, it's been super interesting to watch! :)
Love following your story and seeing you and your family take this journey, Great storytelling and editing.
I am on the edge of my seat for this new trimaran reveal!
(You guys look so photogenic with those autumn leaves. Only complaint, no present day Renata. 🤗)
Can’t wait for the next episode.
Wow! I just stumbled on your channel, first watching you check out the Minimalist Catamaran episode in Seatle, and then watched this episode to find out you’re on the hunt for a trailerable trimaran. Sweet! My wife and I just pick up an older F31R and having headroom is a must. Ours doesn’t have a liner in the bottom so we actually walk on the hull giving us more headroom. Everything you’ve mentioned about a trailerable trimarans is right. I love being able to walk outside the house and work on our boat. You can even extend the amas while on the trailer or lift the boat off the trailer with boat stands. I’m really excited for you and do hope you get one of these F-Boats. I can’t wait for you to start exploring your region. There are so many small lakes (and big ones) I would love to see you sail. It’s funny that your reasoning for getting a trailerable trimaran is similar to ours. We wanted a transition multihull to train on for a few years at home before we make the jump into a larger multihull for long term cruising. Who knows we may just stick with the F-31 and ship it to different places, because you can do that too.
Aloha,
Cullen Chong
Corsiar F-31R “Delta Vee”
Honolulu, Hawaii
Heartbreaking to see Soulianis 1 floating listlessly with her damaged mast. I REALLY hope they can get her back to running condition. Wrecked by a hurricane is no way for a beautiful boat like that to end up.
There is no GOOD way for beautiful boat to end up. That said, hurricanes are quick, slowly rotting in a boat yard (or back yard) is much sadder.
Every boat ends up in Davey Jones' locker
@@Damcpaddy not necessarily. Far too many end up in Bob Jones's junkyard or rotting away in some random back yard someplace.
@@Wearyman very true, I didn't even consider there was a heaven and hell for boats...
Why did they not Move the boat to safe Area such as going thru thru the waterway to the east ??
Fun episode, enjoy watching your journey. Looking forward to see what you get and your adventures upcoming!!
Thanks Steve!
Nice. A trimaran seems like a great, versatile craft. And you guys are creating your own little niche sailing channel. Keeping it interesting. Cool.
Thank you!
@@SailingSoulianis you're welcome. Good luck on your new adventures with da bébé. And congratulations.
The most stable hoat is a upside down multy hull.♥️
I didn’t even know there was such a large trailerable sailboat. Thanks guys. Can’t wait to see what you find in the end.
Finally somebody getting a trimaran - I started to get tired of watching Billy and Sierra over and over again - I will not miss any of your new episodes and getting some footage of the Great Lakes excites me even more … please please sail the thousand Island as well and let us know if there are border issues
Are you a child pervert? On and on about our children.
Having sailed, cruised and raced my 28R for 20+ years, I'm ready for the blue water trimaran upgrade! I appreciate your sentiments and attempting to find the right tri, at the right price with enough space for tall men 😎
Great to see you "in Real Time" Would love to see how the Property in Michigan is going if you ever thing about non-sailing content. Love Your channel!
Hi Alan! We would love to do some videos on our property. There hasn’t been a whole lot of progress to share yet. But we will do at least one in the not so distant future about our plans for the land and how it fits into our sailing lifestyle. And if there is interest we will do some more as we improve the land.
After talking to you at the Annapolis Boat show I cond not wait for this episode! Epic! Bill from Boston.
This is unbelievably refreshing seeing and hearing about people doing this more realistically. You guys built up your income streams, are not trying to sail around the world and across oceans with toddlers expecting to enjoy the experience but are still getting out there, exploring, exposing kid/s, and planning for the future. I am glad someone else out there is taking the same approach -- gives me faith that there are more level headed people that also like excitement out there.
Are you a child pervert? On and on about our children.
I loved seeing you nearly live time! Lauren you are as beautiful as ever 💞 I also loved hearing the process behind the next boat, and what things you gave consideration. Can’t wait to see what you end up with- hopefully something Chip can pull 🚐 because he has been as much of your story as Soulianis ⛵️
a bungee cord from the mast to the forward cleat will keep the jib lines from getting caught under the mast
I was racking my brains trying to remember who I'd seen in a trailerable tri . Billy and Sierra - yaaaah
And Learning the Lines.
so glad to see your heads pop up again. Exciting times ahead, what will be your final choice........who knows, have fun
Used to have an f31 ultimate. We have a 43 horstman though I'm having 2nd thoughts about taking it around the world. I had a windrider 16 now have a windrider 17 fun trailerable. Looking for something newer than the 43. Then really like the Neel series. Chris white made a series that come apart and go on a flatbead trailer. Something in-between trailerable & fixed. Good luck finding your boat. Cheers from Northern California!!!
A very smart solution....For a very smart couple....thanks for a great movie and go get 'em guys!!🤗🤗
I loved this update. It has been hard wondering what you are doing when we were seeing year old videos. But, now I get it. A lot has been happening behind the scenes. Looking forward to the next video to continue your story and maybe learn a little about your house build. Or not, for privacy reasons which we all understand. Thanks again!
Hey Kiddos! Love seeing you back. The big thing about multihulls - speed is safety. Especially in todays world with all the weather data etc we have access to.
I am fortunate to own a mid duty truck that is capable of hauling quite large loads. I have also been thinking about a trailable boat, but I had not thought about a trimaran. One thing I have learned over the years pulling trailers is not to tow a trailer that is close to the design limits of the tow vehicle. Having a tow vehicle with substantial capacity more than the trailed vehicle is much safer and more comfortable.
If you put a Nest cam on it, you could watch your boat from anywhere in the world on your phone.
I also live in Michigan and have a boat. I HIGHLY recommend putting up a barn to store and work on the boat in the winter. Most storage places I’ve found in Southwest Michigan don’t let you do maintenance there. I have a concrete slab that I’m planning to use for the barn someday. A friend of mine lost his boat in a fire and the Insurance company wouldn’t honor the claim because the building had a dirt floor. So, be aware of that.
I had wondered in your old Tartan had been affected by Ian. I’m sorry to see her stripped, but hopefully the damage isn’t beyond fixing since she still floats.
I am not surprised at all!!! You both were pretty stoked on race style expedition cat's prior to Soulianis!
Plus Chip can haul this thing!
Love sharing these Michigan Northern woods with you. I was trucking through Autumn's blazing beauty of the Huron-Manistee Nat'l Forest on Oct 20. Really like the neat Trimaran Plan, Stan!
I'm getting a perma-grin when I see you guys! 🤗
Bigger. Bigger is better. I'm 6'4"... I guess I'm screwed. Looking fwd to the next one. Ty for the time-warp. (It's just a jump to the left.. and then a step to the right) :)
Seems like we need to come back next week. You got us curious. hehehehehe
Fired up CZcams today wondering where you three were and lo and behold there you were. Good luck with the mooring, I hope the lake bed is solid enough. I hope the pro's can clean your sails, it does seem like new sails are in the offing.
So sorry to see Soulianis' in such tragic circumstances!
I guess it's time to go sledding!
Good luck and fair winds guys.
Farriers rock, trimarans are so much fun. Enjoy the speed.
Having spent the majority of my almost 70 years as a 6'4" sailor, I share your plight. When I bought a new boat 4 years ago, the first test was to see if I could stand up below. You're right to have that attribute at the top of your priority list. I did my first Chicago to Mac race on a F - 27 trimaran and it was just not enough boat for that much sailing. Let your closing words to this episode be your guide - GO BIGGER!
6' 4" here too boss I bought a v40... it kinda works.. but another couple inches of headroom would be heaven.
If we ever upgrade... head room is number one to us.
The Mac is 300 miles in 50hrs for an average monohull. Were you guys less than 24hrs?
@@artsmith103 just under 2 days Because of the wind we had and didn't have.
@@onargaroberts I think I've lucked out to never have a floater Mac. What time did the 36-40' monohauls finish that year?
Nope, I remember 1 year we were a little concerned about the food supply. 36', crew of 7.
When you get round to the bigger cat, have a look at what distant shores did on their build, also Ran Sailing. If you decide to build vs. buy, then new techniques in agile manufacturing could save you a fortune in time/money. A water jet or laser cutter can cut out all the parts for a build very easily and quickly. If the parts are labeled, keyed to only fit one location, one way and locked into place then assembly would be fast and easy. Might be worth creating a build space/team/business to leverage this technique. A parametric based computer build program could create the part making code, similar to gcode slicers for 3D printers...
100% serious, Soulianis trailerable regattas featuring your fans. You'll be a lot faster than most of us but we'll just have to all work it out. Suggested locations:
Great Lakes
Pacific Northwest
Big lake TX/Louisiana border
Chesapeake Bay
Florida Keys
New York Finger Lakes
Renata Regatta!
The thought has crossed our minds.
Corsairs are great boats. I have had one. The only negative is you can’t leave them in the water folded. I sailed mine in 25knts clocking 17knts with a beer in my hand. LOL!
Love it! You two put on a good show. I love that you talk through your thought process and needs. Sailing the great lakes looks like so much fun. And then be able to pack up your boat and head somewhere else is exciting. I have struggled with this decision as well thinking about life and what is realistic and fantasy at this time (Things can change!) Can't wait to see where you end up.
I love the idea of seeing some sailing on the Great Lakes being a fellow Michigander and owning property on Lake Superior. Those trailerable trimarans look like loads of fun but they sure don't look toddler friendly.
I love looking at the Neel 47
I was diving down to the beach here in N. FL yesterday and saw a trailerable Trimaran for sale on the side of the road and thought of y'all. Glad things are still on track.
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Soulianus will probably be restored. The previous owners did some really amazing work and maintenance on her. I was an avid viewer since I also own a T 37. I loved the Newfound Metal portlights and SS handrails. Also envy for the second set of winches on the cockpit coming . There are so many upgrades I want to do because of watching. Hard to say if I will be as avid when you go multihull.
corsair makes a big brother of the 880, 970, and that may be the final solution!!
Nice. A video showed a 6'-4" guy just touching the cabin top.
Being a tall man myself! Really look forward to see if you actually come up with what you are looking for! !! Good luck!
I've been dreaming of a Trimaran for 2yrs, and its great to see you guys fulfill the dream. The Condor 34SC is one my favorites, but sadly they are not in production any more. Check out "Sailing Unleaded". Its a Stable-Dry Trimaran, like the Dragonfly's. Looking forward to your next boat and adventure!!
Sir, there is no such boat as a Condor 34SC. Perhaps you mean a Contour 34SC? I own a 30 foot Condor trimaran. Its big brother is the Condor 40 footer. And they are great boats...but a heck of a day putting them together once trailer has arrived at it's location.
Dang you guys keep teasing the boat from NCYC. Lake Erie western basin. To bad I missed you guys on your visit. Keep up the great content.
Omg. Heartbreaking to see Soulianis. Wowza. 😢
I need more sailing friends to get experiences like this to find the right model for my wife and I.
Describe what you're looking for, plenty of help here.
@@artsmith103 that’s the problem. Having no experience on or with boats, I feel that we are walking into this blind. We went to the boat show last week, and left there with more questions than answers. Budget constraints prevent us from having “everything” we want. So the question is, would a 38ft monohull suffice for us, or do we need to go bigger? That is the problem. What works for some folks, could be out of the question for others. We aren’t exactly sure where we are willing to compromise. Time aboard some gracious live aboard’s would certainly help answer some of these questions.
@@nutsandbolts432 With your experience, if you buy more than 24', you'll use it too much as a motorboat and never learn. Big mistake. Get on a racing boat and learn what pushing the limit is about.
I own an Ericson 25 cb which is trailerable and you've given me ideas about my sailing future plans . I may buy a trailer and do the same thing until a bigger boat comes down the line!
I didn't know Ericson made such a small boat. It must be very nice. I spent a lot of time on a freshwater Ericson 36 and have a Macgregor 26S now. Construction is a little thin but it manages.
Explaining Soulianis!
You are going to give it a thorough look knowing you guys. Your task trading portability and speed for room and convenience is a very difficult one. However, some upper great lakes sailing would be a ton of fun....pack a tent to get extra room sleeping on shore? Gonna be fun and crowded with one or more children. These things go like heck for speed as you know. The word "comfortable" is in your narrative. Good luck with that! Have fun. We will be watching and seeing what you come up with..special trailers, bigger tow vehicle at least like a Tahoe or Expedition would be advisable. The idea of an outboard with gas instead of messing with diesel has some merit especially since they can push the boat on a tri.
Been watching a lot of videos on the DRAGONFLY tri's. They look pretty cool.
They are beautiful boats!
Glad you have given them a look, so easy to get caught in ONLY CORSAIR thoughts.
Such interesting boats, trailerale trimans, had never seen them before. You don't want to skimp on a towing vehicle, it needs to be heavy and be capable of towing the weight over a long distance. If you're planning just a few trips a year lookt the options for a vehicle. Check the restrictions not only in various states but also for bridges, roads and launching sites an integral launching trolley will save corrosion to the trailer systems.
They're not very heavy if that's what you're thinking. No ballast.
Fairly certain that F33 was in my neck of the woods... Carlyle Lake, IL?
Have you considered how such a small tri might be limit the sea state and wind speeds you are comfortable and safe sailing in? Nice to meet both of you at the Annapolis Boat Show.
I agree, standing head room is a must, other wise just get a Hobbi-cat.
Lol
The first boat you looked at is my buddy Thor’s very nice boat
I was wondering where soulianas was. So sad to hear about her. Our boat is at the mooring field in Fort Myers Beach.. Wow, has life changed now. Definitely a learning experience. I'm excited to see what you guys end up with next:) luv you guys and the little one. ❤️
OK you two............a cliff hange??? 🤪 Toooooooooooooooo much fun. ✨🌊💨⛵️🏝👙🌞
Wishing you good luck in finding “your” trimaran ⛵️
I'm eyeballing a Neel 47. One day. When I sell my house. In the far distant future....Obviously Neels aren't trailerable though
That's what she said! 😀
Thank you
I love that you are up to date, I hate that we miss watching your little lady bug grow. The concept of a trailer is great, won't you always have to start and end at the same point, unless you have someone move your car and trailer?
We’ll be jumping back in time over the coming episodes, so you’ll see Renata grow over the last year ;) Yep, we would have to start and stop in the same place, but the goal isn’t to get from A to B, or go some long distance, rather we want to spend several weeks to a month or two exploring one area.
You’re making me realize that the grass really is always greener on the other side. I have a trailer racer, Ranger 26-2 and I’m always wishing I had a bigger boat with a bigger trailer to make bottom maintenance easier. My boat has a lifting keel, so it sits really low to the ground while on the trailer (similar to a Catalina 22.) It makes it difficult to do anything underneath the boat without a hoist.
Use car type jacks to block it up above the trailer, remove trailer.
Definitely want to do the Maritimes. Admitedly biased. :)
Sorry to hear about your Tartan. I wondered how she fared in the storm. Tough boat! Hope she can be salvaged!
A trailerable boat makes lots of sense. I did this too. I used the boat less than I would have liked, but it cost me nothing to be sitting in my shop.
Retired now, so back to a larger boat these days.
Still trying to figure out whose trimaran was shown in both of the last two videos being launched at our yacht club on Lake Erie. Was a shock to see an oh so familiar scene just yards from my own boat.
you got me there. i love trimaran. looking forward.
Finally catching up on vids. 😎
Is that Shaun in the hat of once was Shaun and Julia Sailing?
If the guy in the Philippines building the 33 can easily raise the roof to give you head room. Or it’s time to consider the Danish dragonfly trimarans (Danes are pretty tall)
i see you found my Brainwave channel!!! at 00:46/47 in your video.......haha...get one, no matter what...you will get used to small space, and sailing icw self support and dry out and beaching opt is 300% more fun, but they are and stay expensive! Me having fun on Farriers since 2003...
Awesome episode, go bigger yes!!!
Yaaaaay! A real-time video! Yaaaay!
Nice! That was Gary's boat near the beginning of this right across from Toledo Beach Marina, right?
Rapido 40. I'm calling it.
Are you loaning them the $450 grand sail away money for that?
@@Ravenswingsailing no, I also don't understand money. But let's say they secured the loan before the interest rate hikes, yes I believe they could definitely afford it. It seems like they were looking for something in the 150k cash region. If these videos aren't in our current timeline it wouldn't be unreasonable.
Edit: ok I just checked socialblade. They aren't maximizing profits and are missing out on a significant amount of money, but yes they could just be poor and buy a really nice boat.
@@rhenjacobs4223 I was only trying to point out the Rapido is in a totally different league as a non-trailerable, nearly $half million custom order that takes well over a year to get. Even the insurance on that loan & boat would be formidable. It’s most important to keep getting out there and sailing the different tris. The performance and comfort varies much more than with 30-40’ monos, because the slow boats really stand apart from the fast ones…
@@Ravenswingsailing they have been looking for 3 years. 18 months wouldn't be unreasonable. Also you can buy at least one on the us market right now.
What the headroom on the F33 I'm right at 6' myself..., Been following you guys since almost the beginning, live in Madison WI and was really interested in your trip down the river. Really looking forward to your next adventure, and hopefully I'll have a boat next year!!!
🤞
Trimaran is the safest and most stable type of boat. Catamarans next so. Monos least.
The Great Lakes are pretty good Hurricane holes.
Cross 40' cutter!
Before using Chip to tow a boat consider not only tongue weight but trailer quality (structure, axle rating, tires, electric brakes), center of gravity, and drag coefficient. If there’s any question of trailer pushing tow vehicle trade up.
.... laughing ... saw something about that, the wait times of super yachts, several years, so buy a used one. But you can buy it, but possession is when the seller's new one is ready .... those trees you are standing in front of, they on your property and you are enjoying the colors of fall ... you made mention that Chip might not be able to pull, do you think you will be incognito parking where you park to sleep pulling a folding boat .. just curious .... ... you suspense creators you .... thx for the share, you two are looking good and healthy .... as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....
Im a rigger in RI and have assisted my client with his Corsair 37 and now his new 880, great boat
But more of a day sailer or weekend sailer. Good luck on your search.
some of the places where you stored the boat suffered a lot of damage... mostly boats blown of the stands
You owning a trailerable tri, would have me watching all your videos. Love those lovely Dragonfly tri. But man you pay for what you get.
Look at a rosborough 246 high side version
Interesting boats! And while those boats are fast and fun, would any trailerable trimaran be good at sailing from FL to Bahama's, or anywhere else in the Caribbean? I just don't know, but I'm sure interested to watch you next let's go "bigger"video!
Excellent!
I see you on say a Lagoon 40 (or equivalent) - far more comfort, and can easily liveaboard and circle the globe. You can get the acomodations and flexibility of the Corsair 880 in a J-24 for 1/6th the price, but loose the nice trimarran sailing experience.
The J-24 was built to optimize speed for the rules of the day. It was quite a breakthrough but mostly miserable to cruise on. Compare that to the much nicer Merit25. But those performance Monohauls reaching the limit of trailerable have tall keels making ramp work and mast stepping difficult. Water ballast performance lacks a little.
They are looking to maximize trailerability, speed, and comfort. Speed provides safer passage.
@@artsmith103 - I hear you regarding trailerability, and the speed and handling are wonderful. For me, trailering is just to much effort for a relatively short sail. The tris are great though.
@@TM-tw1py But they are looking to do the equivalent of fresh and salt water coastal cruising with rare overnight passage and week or more in one location. So trailering is the answer. With good crew, they'll be ready to launch in less than 1 hour. Open up a big USA map and start circling inland and protected waters at least 100 sq. Miles. Easy to imagine less than 2 days drive from 1 to the next while following the weather and provisioning along the way :-)
dragonfly trimarans would be perfect for u
Did you check the Dragonfly trimarans?
so very cool!
Live your dream!
Have you checked out dragonfly 32 (from Denmark)?
If you can drive a Semi, you'll find that a lot more boats become trailerable. 😉
😂
3/4 ton pickup is more than enough. There are even 3/4 ton vans but none are probably necessary.
@@artsmith103 Would that work for their previous boat, or their planned intercontinental boat?
@@iwantmypot You can look up tow capacity of the 3/4 and 1 tons. Probably can't handle Soulianis but there's more to it than weight. Beam affects towing restrictions a lot. Then need crane service at both ends. Technically 8ft beam has no restrictions, I've heard people up to 9' aren't being bothered. 25-28' fixed keel boats look huge on their tandem trailers and need a trailer tongue extension to float off the trailer.
Typical monohull naval architecture is beam is 1/3rd length. So ~26' typical max trailerable and weighs about 3-5 thousand lbs.
Also can go in shallow water
10:27 where do you put the solar panels and batteries?
Awesome!
Corsair 36...done...mic drop.