Balancing a Tire with Balance Beads, Hydro Boost Vs Vacuum Boost and where is the Towverlander
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In this weeks Questions and Answers we talk about balance beads vs traditional wheel balancing, what is the status of the GMC T6500 that I want to build into the ultimate towing/overlander rig, why people choose Hydro Assist instead of Vacuum Assist and how to straighten a bent axle housing.
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You have been an invaluable visual aid, resource, and plethora of first hand knowledge for off-roaders for longer than I can remember. Thanks for your contribution to the CZcams knowledge base platform.
Wow, thanks!
On my 4BT Ranger, I went hydro boost just to avoid the need for running a vacuum pump
12:26 balance can also change if the bead slips on the wheel. Which is much more common then you think!!! Also- beads help adjust for needing to rebalance as the tires wear down. (Worked for a tire shop for 8 years)
Every time you take off they are balanced to current needs. Which is always changing a little with wear.
no tire ever needs to be rebalanced lol
I’ve never heard of beads till today. Is there any reason I can’t use these on a normal car? Like my wife’s car is a Chevy Bolt it’s incredibly sensitive to tire noise and the winter tires tend to have just a bit of imbalance in them at high speeds.
Thanks
Great video love hearing your opinions on all your experience that you have thanks for taking the time to do the questions and answering. 👍🏼😊
In the last few years I’ve had a 54 belair with 100% rebuilt factory drums all around and a 62 international scout. Also rebuilt drums all around. Manual Brakes on both worked fantastic… but they were rebuilt and brake shoes were adjusted to the drums properly.
@Ian, Long time fan thank you for your content, Happy New Year !!
Love the show keep it up!
Have you ever thought of doing a memorial vehicle for Jesse Combs
What is your favorite coffee? Enjoy all of these new CZcams videos! Keep it up!!
Manual brakes for the win.
Best feel, works with dead engine and with boost.(turbo or roots) Try running boosted up Pikes Peak, let off, hit the brakes and pray. “Storing” vacuum or hydro boost is temporary. There’s a place for power brakes…. Going to the grocery store…. Hehehe…
Love this stuff. Do more!!!!!
Manual brakes are great, yes I agree
Also, engines with a lot of cam tend to not make consistent vacuum. Hydro boost is the solution.
Ian, well-done on the hydro vs vacuum boost brakes!! I have a 92 C3500 (with dump bed - drum brakes) hydro brakes, when the engines off the brake pedal goes to the floor - scary...
The accumulator normally stores a pump or two.....so you might want to check that
Thx Ian Love the Q & A show :)
Glad you enjoyed it
Ian, tons of us have followed you through your career (on tv) and enjoyed all the builds and knowledge you've thrown at us. Going way back to Xteme days, what happened the Suburbangorilla hummer replica? We're invested... gotta know 😉 Thx
I used copperhead BBs on my old H1 37s. Put airsoft bbs in my current set of 42s.
Where is the SCOUT you built? I was in the hospital for a 3 days years ago and watched all the extreme episode I could fit in. Love your work
For sure I will be removing the axle from the truck and tearing it down to a bare housing. There is a spring/suspension shop in my town, I'll try calling them and see if they can do it before I attempt trying it myself.
Toyota axle straightening (Ford 9 , 8 inch etc.) "Fabricated housings". I would also recommend dropping the center section back in and snugging it up after you have gutted and stripped the housing to help keep it from possibly distorting. Use a "shoe" (Steel saddle) where the bottle jack contacts the housing to spread the load so it doesn't dent or deform the housing. I have a massive I beam for the base of my axle fixture (Straightening, welding, gearing, etc fixture) put a 20 ton jack under a hollow tube and go Magilla and well,,,,,...
Hey Ian, love your builds and Fab work. What do you recommend for gloves for grinding and/or general fabrication?
I’ve tried many types of gloves and they always split at the fingers or get destroyed from grinding. I’m looking for something that holds up to such abuse but also allows dexterity. Thanks!
Did golf balls 15 or so years ago on my k1500 daily with 35s because the shop wouldnt balance them worked pretty well. Ahh the good old days of sketchy living
How about the military axels, the new ones from Axel tack I think is the name, I use 12 oz of needs on my 40” irocks, tried BBS they shock the truck at interstate speed 80 mph, was surprised you use 3 scoops of beads, good vido lots of information
Hi Ian really enjoy the videos! Do you know where the veteran xj is now that you built for Erik Gottfried? I really liked that build!
I am using air soft bb’s they have been in for 5 years work great even as you remove pieces of the the tires in the rocks. Lol
Buddy of mine still uses golf balls for his 43" sticky's. Lol
Did you see/hear Puddin mentioned you this week on the outlet covers? Keep up the good work!!
Yes! Thank you!
For the meretor axle contact Neil at western Canadian Rockwell. The specialize in those specifically
Lost a water pump and belt on my Dodge diesel and barely got it stopped. I plan to put hydro boost on my Chevelle.
Ian - I know your a huge fan of the 1st Gen Toyota 4Runner (1984-1989) have you ever done a build on one? If not, why not?
Most of the 2500 Chevys and LS engines have hydro boost.
If you have a bent axle and/or axle tubes you call around to shops that repair hydraulic cylinders. I have had a few buddies that have had their axles straightened by the cylinder shop with no issues at all.
Good idea
Airsoft bbs are usually cheaper than balance beads and work well. It's what I have in my 35.
Fir the towverlander the chevy kodiak 4x4 uses a dana 70hd steer axle woul probably work well if you could match the gears
I’ve used BBs for balance beads
Hello Ian I’m a long time fan. I know you like full frame rigs. Have you ever considered building a Ford Bronco II. I’ve had mine since high school 29 years. With minor upgrades it will go anywhere. Short wheelbase like a 2 door wrangler. Just curious.
What is your all time favorite engine also do you plan on building anything electric powered?
If you have limited space on the firewall, hydroboost is huge advantage in package size.
Ian if you could run any rig anywhere in the world what would it be and where?
Just finished a custom tube buggy from scratch and have question on transmission. Rebuilt a TH400 with Reverse Pattern Manual Valve Body. I only have reverse after the transmission warms up but nothing when cold. Any hints on what to look for/fix?
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I don't recommend balance beads for tires on rigs that air down and up frequently, and certainly not on Jeep JL or JT models. Airing up adds moisture to the inside of the tire and those beads will eventually start to clump, especially with small portable air compressors after a trail ride. JL Wrangler and JT Gladiators are very susceptible to "death wobble" not caused by worn parts, but due to tire balance. I've been bead free for 4k miles on a JT Gladiator w/ 37x13.5 on beadlocks with zero balance in all 4, smooth like butter to 85mph. I air up after wheeling frequently and ran balance beads and developed death wobble in a rig with 9k miles on it, nothing loose, nothing worn....vacuumed out the beads as recommended by my local 4x4 fab shop, and not a problem since. As with Ian, I run beadlocks with no balance on Milestar Patagonias, and they are perfect. If I didn't have beadlock wheels, I would have them balanced with stick on lead weights.
T6500 is not a "Semi Truck" it's a class 6 truck. Semis are class 8 FYI. Love to see you work on it in future episodes though!
Opinion on electric power steering ? Have you ever used it?
One of the benefits of hydro boost is packaging, particularly when you put a larger engine in a smaller engine bay. Easier to package hydro boost without the size of the vacuum booster.
Exactly! Like my 72 Bronco with a SBF 427 570HP, very tight engine compartment and it dosen't make sufficient vacuum for brakes.
Love the balance beads idea. I used to use air soft pellets in my trail rig. Do the balance beads interfere or damage TPMS sensors in any way?
I ran beds with my sencer 40,000 miles without issue
Awesome video, thanks for the info.
Have you hit up Steve Gerstner with Differential Engineering Inc about a Meritor axle? He’s in Winter Haven Florida. The dude is like “the dude” for Meritor stuff! I’m sure you know.
I'm going to make rear stear in the near future I have a 14 bolt rear end and a Dana 60 for knuckles do you think that's a good combination custom inner axles who's the best place to get those from?
i have a yj and i want to do a triangulated 4 link and run air shocksdo you have any tips
Diesel engines don't create manifold vacuum off throttle because they don't have a throttle valve, not because they're FI.
I Used one of those calculator apps to figure out bead ounces for tires, it’s says for a/t 38x13.5x17 to use 12oz per tire?
What's the con's of using balancing beads?
Anyone know where i can buy a new hydrovac for a 1967 C 50, or some reputable rebuilder.
Just a comment on the bent axle comment. Some vo-tech schools, an auto shop classes in some high-schools will do that.
Ian why not put in a rockwell axle for the front of the semi rv or unimog axle?
Looking at all of the options.....the Rockwell top loader will not work
I've tried plastic BB's and golf balls in a set of 38 Swampers but they didn't work at all. I do use actual balance beads in my motorcycle and they work great. I'm leary of trying them in big truck tires from my experience so far.
Are your swampers Bias or Radial....The bias tires tend to pick up flat spots when you park on them for more than a day or two.
@@BigTireGarage that was 20 years ago. They were 38x12.50-16.5 TSL-SX bias on uncut H1 wheels. Even daily driving and well after any flat spots smoothed out they where terribly out of balance even just around town below 50 mph. They would actually bounce when they had golf balls in them, lol.
used airsoft bbs before to balance
What happened to the budget buggy
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On the towverlander what about a f550 or 5500 dodge or Chevy front axle?
We have looked at those....the issue is the steering
That 3126 is a real keeper from my experience. Couldn't you use a divorced transfer case?
Yep.....I want to keep the 3126....but I would prefer more than 4 speeds in the Allison
Ian,,, what happened to your Tim Hortons coffee mug ? You might live in the States but you're still a Canadian dude.
Naturally aspirated diesel engines don't make vacuum either. While forced induction won't help anything, it's not the reason for the lack of vacuum.
With the bead grip Wheels have you lost a bead on trail, and if so were you able to get it rebeaded.
Ran one with 0 psi for a mile and didn't loose the bead
Put equal in it
Don't forget about air brakes.
When I first put balance beads in my tires on my JK from time to time they would go seriously unbalanced. Like shake the hell out everything unbalanced. It has gotten better over time has anyone else had this problem and what was the fix. It’s about time for new tires.
It sounds like your balance beads might be sticking together.....I am going to test the type that I use to see if moisture effects them...I will report back
I’d go with a Dodge 3500 drive train for the toxverlander.
That is what I would like to do TBH
I dont remember if you ever really said what is your Camera you use, The one you hold in your hand.
The main reason diesels don’t have vacuum is because they don’t have throttle body’s so there’s no where for vacuum go be created.
Unimog axles
How can I purchase a sticker pack 🤔
Link to store in description
OMG - really??? 1000 psi of vacuum? You nadd a small boo-boo there. 🤪
Typical engine vacuum is 7-10 psi (14.7 psi is theoretical max - i.e. 1 atmosphere). For a 12 inch diameter diaphram with a 3 inch diameter hole in the center, this will provide 740-1000 lbs of force. I think that's what you meant.
The PSI I was referring to was the pressure inside the brake system
Hog wash...bfg tires are the worst....ive had one set on my dodge dually......went to tire shop 6 times...discount tire....was told dont come back.....no shop could get those tires balanced....and several other sets of bfg tires i owned needed a half to of weights....no more bfg for me....lets go brandon🤡🤡🤡