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  • @WaynePolcin
    @WaynePolcin Před 3 lety +34

    One of the most prominent characteristics I’ve observed about you as you work is that every movement you make is slow and deliberate. That is a skill I admire and desire to emulate! It’s as if all the rules were designed for the vast majority of us who just can’t wait to get the job done and do not give careful thought to every movement. Great video, Reg!

    • @Boomer_in_the_Trees
      @Boomer_in_the_Trees Před 3 lety +2

      That's well stated. I've watched this video now a dozen times just to drill into my head the way he moves so smoothly and seamlessly through the tree in hopes of emulating even a portion of it.

  • @bradcordle7743
    @bradcordle7743 Před 3 lety +13

    A humble and very gifted arborist. Thanks for taking the time out of your jobs and sometimes leisure time to bring us (the CZcams world) up the stem and on your journey’s. Out of the hundreds of company’s and arborist I’ve watched on here over the years, you have to be my favorite. You never speak without genuinely trying to help someone. Happy Father’s Day Reg from the lower 48!

  • @andyp8752
    @andyp8752 Před 3 lety +28

    Can we take a moment to appreciate the awesome throttle control! Every cut he makes the chain comes out pretty much stationary 👌

  • @davidelko9864
    @davidelko9864 Před 2 lety +4

    I've watched several of your videos you have very good work habits. I can see you work same as you speak calm yet
    forceful your a good man. I agree with your views on everything you've be talking about, I've learned much from you thank you. I've got my harnesses and ropes and going to take down a 100 foot pine tomorrow, I do trust my equipment

  • @shanejongebloed3590
    @shanejongebloed3590 Před 3 lety +16

    Couldn’t believe my eyes, another video from our man Reg………2 in a week.
    Simple, methodical and safe.
    Another enjoyable vid.
    Thanks Reg and thanks to ‘Jay’ for the job referral.

  • @yetisteps8200
    @yetisteps8200 Před 3 lety +15

    Kia ora from New Zealand. Just wanted to point out how grateful I am of your exceptional throttle control Reg, I get a lot from your videos but I don't get sore ears. Always pleasurable watching a true professional climber at work. Cheers

  • @dan-dan-da-treeman
    @dan-dan-da-treeman Před 3 lety +6

    You inspire figuring out sketchy trees. Thanks for all sharing of your thought process. Your voice is in my head every time I'm in the nasty ones. I hope you have a great weekend. I send my respect and love tree brother. You can't not except either. 🤙

  • @Triplaglol
    @Triplaglol Před 3 lety +2

    Gorgeous weather and an awesome tree job, what a pleasure to watch, thanks Reg.

  • @richardminchin5415
    @richardminchin5415 Před 3 lety +18

    Thanks. Every vid has a nugget of wisdom earned from experience. This no exception. Really grateful for your efforts in putting these together.

  • @robh3267
    @robh3267 Před 3 lety +18

    By easy you mean familiar because nothing you do is easy but it definitely is amazing thanks for the video.

  • @petehendry4756
    @petehendry4756 Před 3 lety +20

    Reg coats . THE best .

  • @samspade9980
    @samspade9980 Před rokem +1

    Only a true professional makes the insane look easy. My hat is off to you good sir.

  • @whitleyjohnson29
    @whitleyjohnson29 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for your videos Reg, I learn something new every time. This time was hanging a bag of gear up in the tree.. so simple but never thought to do it. 👌🏼
    My favorite part of the whole video though, was that you decided to keep in the clip of you flicking the bug off. 🤣🤣

  • @dougroberts3643
    @dougroberts3643 Před 3 lety +5

    I can balance real good in my sleep also because I'm lying down. It's when I'm awake and standing that gives me a problem.

  • @bonesthenorthwoodswarriors1854

    Just want to comment to up the video as much as possible, thanks for another superb video Reg, hope your family is doing well mate.

  • @kingslew1866
    @kingslew1866 Před 3 lety +7

    Thanks Reg! Thanks for taking the time to do the videos. Well done, by the way. The music was tasteful and just enough. You helped me solve a situation that I have coming up that was eluding me, I always get something from your vids, but they're enjoyable on their own despite being elucidating and educational. Thanks again!

  • @wown_dee
    @wown_dee Před 3 lety +2

    Giant ice cream after a hard days work is exactly my kinda day. Thanks for the video!

  • @daveaskin1333
    @daveaskin1333 Před 3 lety +3

    Very grateful for your taking time to share. Closeups on Hitches... always appreciated. Thankyou.

  • @marksmith9295
    @marksmith9295 Před 3 lety +1

    Well earned ice cream Reg! Your comfort in the hardwoods is obvious as is your skill. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tomlorenzen4062
    @tomlorenzen4062 Před 3 lety +13

    It's always nice when the customers wait till the bark is falling off to decide to cut their tree down. I always ask them- what's your hurry?

  • @chrisa1250
    @chrisa1250 Před 3 lety +2

    Many thanks for the great video, music and comments Reg. I learn lots from each one. Much respect!

  • @Boomer_in_the_Trees
    @Boomer_in_the_Trees Před 3 lety +3

    That was amazing to watch. I have no words.

  • @alanhutchins4233
    @alanhutchins4233 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for taking the time and trouble to make the video, interesting and informative.

  • @NHlocal
    @NHlocal Před 3 lety +1

    Reg, I appreciate you posting up a bit of your work.
    It takes extra time and effort to do that, thank you.
    Cheers and keep yourself safe. 😎👍❤️🌲
    Randy

  • @waynecroom535
    @waynecroom535 Před 3 lety +2

    A craftsman is well worth his pay. And the proof is in this video. Thanks Reg.

  • @colsinclair7793
    @colsinclair7793 Před 3 lety +6

    For The time you take to make these vids! thank you👍🏻

  • @twoeagledrones
    @twoeagledrones Před 3 lety +1

    Always a joy to watch you work.

  • @TBPollock
    @TBPollock Před 3 lety +4

    Kind of a grim, supremely confident and competent man. Hard to imagine him as a husband and father. I'd want him on my side in any dire circumstance, that's for sure.

    • @neild7971
      @neild7971 Před 3 lety +7

      Grim? He is working. I would actually put engaging, caring/thoughtful, artful and even humorous before grim from what I have seen in these vids

    • @calvinwoodman6116
      @calvinwoodman6116 Před 2 lety

      AND FUNNY at times video at his home one time with Blower demo ( cleaning house up ) 😅🤣🌅👍

    • @TBPollock
      @TBPollock Před 2 lety

      @@neild7971 Not to mention, cheerful, brave, clean and reverent.

    • @TheToolnut
      @TheToolnut Před 6 měsíci

      He's very North of England.

  • @smev4341
    @smev4341 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the vid. Always a pleasure to watch. Yes I was thinking of now moving to SRT as I’m not getting any younger at 53.
    So I’m looking into the rope wrench and tree runner and the kimbo. So will look forward to your videos on that. Anyhow enjoy your ice cream and catch up later.

  • @skogsmats
    @skogsmats Před 3 lety +2

    Heck of a tree, can realy understand wh ynot liked to have lanyard/second support in it.
    Nice work as always in your videos. Be safe.

  • @vespasian266
    @vespasian266 Před 3 lety +4

    K' I'm goin gettin my ice cream.. well deserved Reg.

  • @jerrysmith376
    @jerrysmith376 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing balance on those long skinny shakey limb walks

  • @willkirke4312
    @willkirke4312 Před 3 lety

    Great to see reg back doing tree videos . For me the best ones and only ones I genuinely want to watch . 👍 many thanks

  • @kram7917
    @kram7917 Před 2 lety

    Awesome skills. watched this several times. respect

  • @norbaggar
    @norbaggar Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you! A legend, and true inspiration. 👍

  • @IanT372
    @IanT372 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for always being awesome Reg!

  • @paulmorin2582
    @paulmorin2582 Před 3 lety

    Another great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights, Reg.

  • @jesusischrist1527
    @jesusischrist1527 Před 2 lety +1

    One day I was working on a massive self support tower up in South Carolina and I was safetied off to a wind lacer behind me and the climbing face in front of me simultaneously and I slipped , fell and was hanging in the center of the tower at around the half way point of the because of my lanyards ... One was hooked behind me and I couldn't reach far enough forward to unhook from the climbing face and because I was hooked to the climbing face I couldn't reach far enough behind me to unhook from the wind lacer haha .. I was stuck floating almost 200ft in the air and had to have some one climb up to unhook my safety from behind me before I could do anything else haha.. I was literally stuck half way up the tower because of my safety hooks ... After that I decided to stop using both my safeties at the same time which made it a lot easier to work and climb around but unfortunately the day came in 2009 down in Louisiana when that bad decision caught up with me and I ended up falling off the tower completely and even though I was only at the first flange (20ft off the ground) , it still broke me up pretty bad ... After I got out of the hospital that job was shut down because of my fall and we ended up going to change guide wires on a 250ft guide tower in Alabama just two days after falling in Louisiana and I was at the top of the tower with a cast on my right leg (took me forever to climb up wearing a cast on my leg haha) but I finally got up to the top of the tower and started breaking the old guidewire free and I be darned if I didn't fall again but this time I was wearing both safeties which saved my life that day .... The point of all of this is - when you think it's okay to NOT wear your safeties and be 100% tied off is when you need it the most and no matter how aggravating they are and how much of a pain in the butt it is to climb up and down unhooking your safeties , stay 100% saftied off because the day will come when you wish you had of (if you survive) and I was blessed enough to not have died down in Louisiana that day and had I wore my safeties that day it would have saved me from a lot of pain and suffering because once my leg and foot healed up I still suffered not just from all the hospital bills but especially from all the embarrassment from falling and having to hear about it everytime someone even just mentioned anything about the possibility of a fall for the next 9 or 10 years after that haha ... Your safeties slow you down and can become a huge aggravating headache but you have to have them no matter if your 20ft or 200ft , a fall on your back or neck from more than 4 or 5 feet can kill you much less a fall from 20-30 ft and especially from off a radio or cell tower at 200 or even 2000ft , but even just falling from that tree and landing on a bunch of jagged rocks , a fence post or even just landing on all the small tree branches you've already cut and thrown down can become a spear and go all the way through you so make sure you stay 100% safetied off at all times no matter how slow or aggravating it is okay ... be blessed and stay safe out there my friends ...

  • @c42cly
    @c42cly Před 3 lety

    Interesting stuff, handy having the pine to work from above.
    Thanks for the insights!

  • @jamesglenn2006
    @jamesglenn2006 Před 3 lety +1

    That was a real decent price for a good bit of work 👍 You make it look easy 🍻

  • @br-dj2ti
    @br-dj2ti Před 3 lety +1

    Another video thanks buddy stay safe my friend God-bless

  • @charlesmercer1975
    @charlesmercer1975 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for sharing. Well done and fairly priced

  • @claytonmorrow1966
    @claytonmorrow1966 Před 3 lety

    Great video's and a GREAT Work ethic Thank you . You are the kind of person that makes the world go with the can do attitude like the harmless farmer on CZcams again great video's thank you and all your hard work.

  • @br-dj2ti
    @br-dj2ti Před 3 lety +2

    I can't wait for the rope runner video I'm excited buddy no matter what I know you always tell the truth a 100% that's the type of man you are I don't even know you and I can tell God-bless you my friend stay safe

  • @gambianzambian
    @gambianzambian Před 3 lety +1

    lone wolf legend .. I thoroughly enjoy watching your vids , please keep em comming . Also pleased to hear you got yr sen a hound , you deserve one . All the best ..

  • @bonzey1171
    @bonzey1171 Před 3 lety

    Nice one Reg. Always nice to be able to tie in above the work on a crispy old snag

  • @gerritvanwilligen
    @gerritvanwilligen Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Much appreciated.
    Great choice in music in this video, by the way 👍😃

  • @billbliss2500
    @billbliss2500 Před rokem

    Love what you do!

  • @petercossburn9768
    @petercossburn9768 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice job reg srt is definitely the way forward for solo climbing as you dont have to worry about fouling your rope with brash. Love the sig fuel bottle for refueling, going to get myself one of them

  • @TimberTrainer
    @TimberTrainer Před 3 lety +1

    High ties are great. Lanyards on sketchy material can be dangerous. I use a small loop of Dynaglide for work positioning on hazardous trees. It's strong enough to hold position, but will breakaway in an emergency.

  • @nottstrees
    @nottstrees Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for posting reg, you made that look easy and we all know its not, looking so comfortable aswell

    • @skogsmats
      @skogsmats Před 3 lety +2

      Almost like yoga 😂, zenlike, nothing wihout a reason.

  • @Bibibosh
    @Bibibosh Před 3 lety +6

    Im 32 and i have been a machinist for 16 years.
    Its the only thing i know and i do it well.
    I am safe and cautious and i sometimes take risks and I haven't been seriously hurt.
    Metal doesn't forgive neither does gravity.
    People can get tangled up in situations that humans aren't meant to be in.
    Be safe and enjoy what you do, what you do makes you, dont let it break you.

  • @nelligan1531
    @nelligan1531 Před 3 lety +2

    Love your vids, will always appreciate our time working together w/ bob. keep well!

  • @basedtonto
    @basedtonto Před 3 lety

    Nicely done. Thank you for showing us.

  • @shug831
    @shug831 Před 3 lety +5

    You make it look easy but there's a lot of skilful rope work + the strength required to do that all day.

  • @area46241
    @area46241 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic video! Treestuff good stuff. Thank you for showing how it's done

  • @alfadoofus
    @alfadoofus Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for putting in the extra effort into the camera work in the start of the vid , the perspective it gave makes it look easy, which it's not . Congrats on the getting a dog :)

  • @brianfloyd8033
    @brianfloyd8033 Před 3 lety

    Nicely done as usual!! Thanks for sharing buddy

  • @rogerford4427
    @rogerford4427 Před 3 lety +1

    Very nice video. Stay humble, and not indeed to others. Life in it self is very complex.

  • @neightjay
    @neightjay Před 3 lety

    All the best. Thanks Reg.

  • @cojones8518
    @cojones8518 Před 2 lety

    You can keep a cheap keyring carabiner to use as a breakaway link on your flipline for when you don't want to be tied solid to a tree. Cheap carabiner will hold enough for stability, but will break if the whole tree gives out under you. Piece of paracord would work too.

  • @waynebfr8953
    @waynebfr8953 Před 3 lety

    Very good explaining the job etc thanks stay safe 👍🏼

  • @Tsjoni
    @Tsjoni Před 3 lety

    What a humongous maple 😰!
    👏
    👊
    I have always troubles with these kind of dead trees, that the sawoil is not enough, the sawdust gets ’burned’ to the chain, and then sawing is a pain in the butt…
    I raise my hat, sir! Nice one!

  • @wicklamulla
    @wicklamulla Před 3 lety

    serene location, weather and views.

  • @LookNook2020
    @LookNook2020 Před 11 měsíci

    Another great video!

  • @br-dj2ti
    @br-dj2ti Před 3 lety +3

    I truly wish you could start a climbing school I would be the 1st one there to learn from you it would be amazing

  • @boxedowl
    @boxedowl Před 3 lety

    Good video. Music was a nice touch, especially as this one was a bit longer.
    I also appreciate you taking the time to explain the why behind your decisions.

  • @ricardoarrais6910
    @ricardoarrais6910 Před 3 lety +1

    very good mastery of space and time - like someone who has done this before.
    Very good video!

  • @eliseo3500
    @eliseo3500 Před 3 lety

    Thanks Mr Coates , very self explanatory. No need of redirect just a bunch of balance keep u the good work Sr

    • @briankennedy1313
      @briankennedy1313 Před 3 lety

      What in the hell would a redirect accomplish? He was walking about not using a lanyard to triangulate when your tie in has you already positioned. You know all the srt lingo, you get it, you’re down with it.

  • @vonigis
    @vonigis Před rokem

    Great beings, those trees🙏.
    I wonder how you feel about them, leaving their post, Reg? It seems, from the way you treat them, it goes deep.
    Thank you 🌞

  • @ishure8849
    @ishure8849 Před 3 lety

    G'day Reg, nice job you looked liked you had a hard earned thirst 👍🇦🇺.

  • @notyouraveragearborist1135

    Fuel in the tinny is a great idea for those long ones 👌🏻

  • @zephyr1408
    @zephyr1408 Před rokem

    Yes your very fair! I paid a tree service (licensed ) to take down a small birch (40’ maybe?) and they charged $850? Of course he had a crew several jobs for the day and very professional cleaned up, and ground the stump!
    I use them because they do it all plus I watched them take down a neighbors redwood 90’ fences, houses on both sides and never touched a thing!
    Yea, I learned you use pro’s not handy man guys ! Nothing against them I just think they hv a place but it’s not doing pro work for a cut rate!
    Ok Reg thank you for making the video and opening a door into your world as a pro craftsman!

  • @itzOLE3
    @itzOLE3 Před 3 lety +3

    If only nick could get the average clients orders shipped on time without issue. I havent used treestuff in years from those problems.

    • @br-dj2ti
      @br-dj2ti Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah I understand what you mean I usually order from sheryl tree I switch to tree stuff I ordered 4 wedges it's taken 2 and a 1/2 months I still never got them yet I ordered a foot asunder it took over 3 months I don't understand Sheryl tree usually a couple weeks if that

    • @itzOLE3
      @itzOLE3 Před 3 lety +2

      @@br-dj2ti yeah man, when it's essential gear for a business, it's gotta get sent faster. I love Wesspur. 2 day shipping reliably

    • @br-dj2ti
      @br-dj2ti Před 3 lety +1

      @@itzOLE3 thanks buddy

  • @julianalderson6996
    @julianalderson6996 Před 3 lety

    Thats a great price. For them. Lot done cheers much respect bro.

  • @mute7116
    @mute7116 Před 3 lety

    Hehe...30 years and still pluggin' on the crappers...props, man.

  • @ItsFishh
    @ItsFishh Před 3 lety +4

    If i didn’t climb in pine sap all day that rope wrench configuration looks like a sure thing, great video stay safe Reg ❤️

    • @johngiannetti.
      @johngiannetti. Před 3 lety +2

      What's your go-to system for pines?

    • @ItsFishh
      @ItsFishh Před 3 lety +1

      @@johngiannetti. I’ve been using a rope runner, forrrreverrrr but... about a year ago i switched to the petzl zigzag with the chicane! It’s so smooth I’d never look back to a rope runner!
      It’s just that the rope runner is so jumpy on decent with sap on the rope.

    • @SR20FTW
      @SR20FTW Před 3 lety

      @@ItsFishh +1 for the Zigzag and Chicane. Love mine.

    • @johngiannetti.
      @johngiannetti. Před 3 lety

      @@ItsFishh ah cool, gotcha. So the zig zag doesn’t lock up on sap like other systems?

    • @ItsFishh
      @ItsFishh Před 3 lety +1

      @@johngiannetti. if it’s really sapped up it’ll be a little jumpy but if you keep your rope somewhat clean from old sap it shouldn’t be anything but buttery smooth

  • @MrBernie101
    @MrBernie101 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice one Reg, I thought I was there working with you. I needed a lie down at the end of the vid. I liked the way you negotiated those power lines and a few other nuisance's. Also the fuel flask, to top up the top handle. All that you do, oozes 30 years plus experience. That's why I and I suspect, the thousands of others just love watching you at work.
    Just one quick inquiry, The tie in point in the Fir, did you have to climb back up to release it, or have you got a remote release method. Thanx once again, Bernie SW Wales UK

  • @christietz5020
    @christietz5020 Před 3 lety

    I used to be a husq dealer until I had to deal with poulan stuff. Work for a stihl dealer now. I see he's using the es stihl bar. In Virginia Beach stihl gold training, they have a turbine powered saw-just a fun project they did.

  • @stillwater62
    @stillwater62 Před 3 lety

    Attention to detail, careful planning, and not afraid to think outside the box, looks to be your formula for success. Probably one of the reasons why your tree worker " friends " send the more dangerous jobs your way.

  • @ronburke
    @ronburke Před 3 lety

    Good to see ya Reg, Another fine job as usual.

  • @stevenconner3082
    @stevenconner3082 Před 3 lety

    Big fan of the t540 myself, only downside is having to climb with fuel all the time ha. great content as always.

    • @AdamGoldswain
      @AdamGoldswain Před 3 lety +1

      That’s why I love the 020/200t , old school I know but I just love the fuel capacity

  • @gustavo-tree_work.relative

    Great climb reg.. work position at its finest

  • @boyse69
    @boyse69 Před 3 lety

    Good to see you looking well Reg

  • @julianalderson6996
    @julianalderson6996 Před 3 lety

    Love ya vids, altho takin fuel up, puttin groundys outa work, cheers

  • @fishabit
    @fishabit Před 3 lety

    Nice camera work!
    That tree had limbs for days.

  • @professionaltreeclimbersp.9625

    Awesome Job!

  • @KennysTreeRemoval
    @KennysTreeRemoval Před 3 lety

    good work Reg and good price

  • @stevepalmer4072
    @stevepalmer4072 Před 3 lety

    Great job again Reg.

  • @pmcwoodsman9962
    @pmcwoodsman9962 Před 2 lety

    Hi Reg . Paul from Ireland here . Never posted on you tube before in fact prefer to keep myself to myself !! . However your videos blow me away esp this one (very grateful) (music Inc). Been around wood and trees all my life but only got into forestry at 50 and did climbing course at 55 ....now 64 and have a few more climbs in me (not sure how many 😗) . Comments talk of srt but seems you used the rope wrench drt at the start ??. Just wondering how you think it compaires to the zigzag ?? .thanks again 😃

  • @jameslaird5540
    @jameslaird5540 Před 3 lety

    You're the man bro...love your work. Respectfully...you can get a lot more for skill level. I understand being comfortable and not having to touch the wood once you touch down but DAMNIT... That was extremely inexpensive...keep rocking buddy love your channel.

  • @bobclark2961
    @bobclark2961 Před 3 lety

    You wiĺl not find a tree man out there as good as you mate,take care KOALA Bob

  • @markroth9827
    @markroth9827 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for your video.

  • @johndurant8687
    @johndurant8687 Před 3 lety

    After all these years of trying to find the secret source of Reg's superpowers, there it is staring us right in the face; It's the long hair! Just like Samson in the Bible! And also the Haagen Das vanilla ice cream!

  • @StihlChainsaws
    @StihlChainsaws Před 3 lety

    Enjoy that ice cream brother. You earned it😎👍

  • @shanebrewster2384
    @shanebrewster2384 Před 3 lety

    Enjoy that well earned ice cream!

  • @snowyseb
    @snowyseb Před 3 lety +1

    G'day Reg,
    This might seem naive, when swapping to a larger saw by yourself do you have to go down and collect it and climb back up, have a separate line on connected to it waiting and tied out of the way to be pulled up, or was the customer savy with sending the saw up to you?
    I'm also curious about your rope walking setup with spurs, I've been having difficulty finding a system with spurs that's efficient and stays out of the way, any suggestions?
    Cheers from Australia, definitely not ice-cream weather here at the moment. 🇦🇺

    • @Recoates
      @Recoates  Před 3 lety +5

      Hello Seb. Yes, I went down, had a drink and a snack, then climbed back up with the bigger saw. I dont have a rope walking system with spurs, although I have on occasion strapped on a foot ascender under a spur. I think having an ascender bolted onto the shaft of one spur could definitely be advantageous at times. The Kiwi Climbers spurs appear to have done an excellent job with their product, even if they are expensive. Light weight spurs/foot acsender, with a twin handle rope grab is probably how Id do it. Alternative between one foot and two hands.

    • @snowyseb
      @snowyseb Před 3 lety

      @@Recoates Thank you for your response!

  • @leonardvirtue5753
    @leonardvirtue5753 Před 3 lety

    Nice.😆 mate

  • @charliebowman3172
    @charliebowman3172 Před 5 měsíci

    We need more vids reg we miss you

  • @emandeli1585
    @emandeli1585 Před 3 lety

    Found your videos, showing my kids. Fascinating, dangerous as heck, super scary for me to watch (fear of heights). very interesting videos! Looked at the "About" section and says you are in Victoria (we are Ladysmith :)

    • @Recoates
      @Recoates  Před 3 lety

      Ladysmith, beautiful little town. Nice to hear from you. I actually made a video on fear if heights. You might take something from it. Just scroll back down the list.