Having grown up in Brooklyn, I remember passing by Washington Cemetery (where the Bay Parkway station is). It is a very old Jewish burial ground which Wikipedia says dates back to 1857. My guess is that they put a station there to allow relatives of those buried there be able to visit whenever. Apparently in 1857, that part of Kings County wasn't incorporated into the City of Brooklyn yet. Brooklyn only became a borough of NY in 1898. Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company was formed in 1896 but went bankrupt in 1919 and was restructured and came out of bankruptcy as the Brooklyn Manhattan Transit (BMT) in 1923. I was born in what is now called the Greenwood area and grew up in Bay Ridge, although I spent a lot of my time riding around Brooklyn on my bicycle! :)
Excellent video, both parts. Family lived on L.I., this is one of several NYC subway lines I've never experienced. This is the closest for now without actually riding the trains, save for the Neptune Ave station stop. I'm certain a lot has changed since my teen days leaving N.Y. for Arizona in 1967..And I'm now here in E. Miss..No rapid transit here, no buses or taxis here in Philadelphia/Neshoba. Enjoyed it. Thanks! !
When I was a kid in the ‘70s my grandparents lived near the Ditmas Avenue station. My parents would take my brother and I to visit them on the F train from Queens. I remember when the Coney Island bound side of the station was an island platform and the Culver shuttle was still running. I don’t recall ever seeing a shuttle train either in the station or on the elevated tracks leading to the station. But I recall the elevated tracks very clearly.
I rode that train since I was 6 years old to go to Carroll Street to go see my grandmother. That was in 1967. From 1987-2016 that train took me to my job at Wall Street (switching at Jay Street). Fir a few years I worked midtown, thus took it to Rock Center. Platform did undergo a huge renovation, but nothing ever collapsed to the street below. I know, I lived there from 1967-2016. A few bolts came down but that was it. The cement slabs sat in a frame and did wobble a bit, but never collapsed. In the ‘70’s the middle track was used for express stops during rush hour. That ended at some point, but they did occasionally run it. I actually thought the F train was one of the most reliable. On 9-11 I recall walking from Wall Street, over Manhattan Bridge, to Jay Street stop to catch the F train home. When I got off at 18th Ave (as hard as I tried not to look ) you could see the smoke coming from Ground Zero. I was two blocks from the station (one side was Parkville Ave, the other 18th Ave). Took it Coney Island bound as a teen to go to the beach. Fun times!
Would you all believe that the yrs. living in the N.Y. area, never went to Coney Island? Saw the MTA Transit yard, but not the amusement area, Or Stillwell Ave/Coney Island Station!!
One bit of history left out: there used to be a walkway above the street from the lower level of the Aquarium station that went all the way to the beach and the Aquarium itself. I went there in 2012, first time in some years then when I went again at the time of this video it was gone. I have no idea why they removed it unless it got to decrepit to rehabilitate. It did not look too bad to me at the time.
1:30 at first I thought that was a terminal for the (F) train until I found on the internet, It was just a shuttle, and the shuttle was called the (SS) train
Thanks for an awesome video! Especially for the history of each of those stations referenced. Riding the F train as a kid, I always wondered why they built a subway station surrounded by a cemetery. I used to be afraid to travel through there at night. Also, I remember the Bay Parkway station as 22 Av/Bay Parkway station and the Neptune Avenue station as the Neptune/Van Sicklen station in the '80's. It's amazing that I still reference those stations as the former as I still call the Jay Street station the Jay Street Borough Hall station. I guess I need to move back to New York. Keep up the good work as I will continue to watch your videos. Thanks!
The south bound platform at Ditmas was converted into an island platform when the ramp was built. Then it was converted back! After 1960 they removed the unused tracks from the shuttle completely, leaving just the bare steel of the El. I remember in the 1960's they replaced all of the WOODEN platforms on the line with concrete. I guess they never touched them again until recently! They also replaced the wooden station walls with metal at that time too. I missed the windows that allowed you to see the street below from the platform! I don't think they ever removed the wooden platforms from the shuttle. The Culver EL, which opened in 1919 replaced an even older surface route (trolley) that used overhead power. The EL has most of the same station stops as the former surface line. McDonald Ave, was probably named after the man who was responsible for building the IRT. The entire length of the street may have been called Shell Road before that. The tracks of this former surface line, and the trolley wires remained in use for some time after the El was built. I remember seeing the power wires suspended from the El structure in the 60's. The tracks were used by the South Brooklyn Railway, a freight line owned by the then NYCTA. Late an night they would haul new subway cars into the Coney Island yards via small diesel loco's down these tracks which ran from the subway yard to the Brooklyn docks where the cars were unloaded off of barges. I remember seeing those diesel trains going down McDonald Ave. The NYCTA used to give rail fan tours of the Coney Island shops on Ave X next to the yard. I was on one of those tours years ago. Very interesting place! The yard was one of the 'gems' that the TA recaptured from the former BMT. The Avenue X station used to have two entrances. The south bound one was closed down in the past, perhaps after a fire. It was never reopened due to the political clout of the merchants on Ave X, who wanted the business of riders who would have to walk all the way past the south entrance to Ave X. I lived south of the station, and our neighborhood tried to get the other entrance opened for years, but we didn't have the political clout to get it done. Rumor had it that the merchants had the mob behind them! I remember one side of the Ave X station being closed for repairs when I lived in Brooklyn. We just walked the extra distance to the Van Sicklen (now Neptune Ave) station south of us. It was only about 5 minutes further away. The fact that the Neptune Ave (Van Sicklen) station opened later than the rest of the line explains something I've always wondered. The section of the Culver line between Ave X and West 8th St is built using lattice girders to support the tracks, while the rest of the El used sheet girders. It's obvious that this section was added to the El later, (using cheaper construction), and perhaps the EL structure once ended at Ave X to dump down into the yard. The connection of the Culver to Coney Island via the Brighton line may have been an after thought. The unused track girders for local tracks on the El from the Culver connection to the Ocean Parkway station suggest this. I bet that curve was designed for 60' long cars and NOT 75' long ones. That probably wears out the tracks and wheels too quickly! The Cyclone once had a 'twin' named the Tornado. I remember the parachute jump operating at Steeplechase park. I also remember going to that park as a kid, but I was too young to go on the parachute jump.
Some additional notes: McDonald Avenue was previously named Gravesend Avenue not Shell Road. The BMT designed and built 67' long Standard cars in the World War 1 era which ran until the late 1960s. They traversed those sharp curves too despite being longer than today's standard 60' cars.
Imagine the city of Brooklyn (That's what it was until the 1898 consolidation) as it was before the first world war; most of it was rural. What seems like close stations today, was actually a great distance back 100 or so years ago. It was the elevateds and the trolly cars that led to the development of the outer boroughs. Mind you, most of the history of the BMT lines were the BRT lines and the small train lines that were first built at grade during the mid to late 19th century and then later elevated and then connected to the IND lines after the 1940's.
This and the IND line extension over the former Fulton Street Elevated were the first uses of former BMT Dual Contracts trackage by IND trains. The 11th Street Connector in Long Island City which was built during the same era also allowed BMT trains to use IND tracks to extend their routes further into Queens. However it wasn't until November 1967 that the BMT and IND were fully integrated into one division when the Chrystie Street Connection opened.
It was demolished in 1985 from 13th ave and 37th st. in Borough Park to Cortelyou rd. in Kensington. I know it because I live this neighborhood I saw it as it happened.
Great video! the Ave I and 18th Avenue Stations though are not unremarkable to me since I grew up near them You could say Ave I was where my interest in subways began... Bay Pkwy is odd with the large Washington Cemetary surrounding the station. However, but in earlier times, many transit systems went to cemeteries as it was a custom to have picnics in them while visiting deceased family members. Maybe that is why the station exists, because of the old Culver line surface line?
Beautiful tour of the Culver Line, DJ Hammers. When I went to Coney Island as a kid, the last station consisted of several train lines coming into for the subway/EL lines, The Steeplechase was my favorite location for fun, too bad it burned down. Excellent video :o)
You neglected to mention that the Aquarium stop used to have a passageway over the street so people could go to the aquarium without having to worry about traffic on the street below.
As you pan while at Bay Parkway, the camera settles on a a white apartment building a short distance away. My parents lived in that building, near the intersection of Ocean Parkway and Avenue L, for nearly 30 years. Before I moved out on my own, I rode the F train to my job in Manhattan. There's a shortcut to the building via a park adjacent to the cemetery.
great vid as usual,good to have more in-depth information about the subway system.in my train system theres also a station right next to a cemetery,but the problem there are the living,not the dead,haha.(translation-lots of assaults)
Trains ran on the old Culver section along 39th St. until 1973 or 1974. I vaguely recall that service ran thru from Manhattan to Ditmas on that route for awhile, then became just a shuttle. Perhaps someone can fill in the details.
The South Brooklyn Railway did more than just shuttle subway cars to the yard. There were a couple of freight sidings leading off it into / between industrial buildings along the way. There was one of these on the west side of McDonald Avenue between Kings Highway and Avenue S. There was also a connection at Parkville to the Bay Ridge Division of what I think was once the New Haven, or at least when I attended Brooklyn College during the 60s there would be freights hauled along that line by New Haven electric locomotives to and from the Bay Ridge car floats. There was some freight traffic on the SBK itself way back when. Also the McDonald Avenue trolley line shared those tracks from Ditmas to Avenue X, then continued on via private ROW to the trolley terminal where Brightwater Towers now stands, near the Aquairum. The tracks beneath the elevated around Ditmas Avenue were regular railroad tracks with exposed ties for a block or two around the point where the SBK and the trolley line parted company, just south of the ramp that connects the el to the Church Avenue station. Some Church Avenue trolley runs would diverge from Church to McDonald and then terminate at a loop at 16th Avenue, sharing the SBK route along with the McDonald cars. Also at one point certain Culver service via the old all-BMT route was provided by Staten Island Rapid Transit cars which the city acquired. They were quite similar to BMT Standards though could not M-U with them. I remember seeing those as a young kid who was fascinated with the subways. The memories remain.
when i went to the aquarium,the aquarium was not the same as today's aquarium's difference when i was 10,but im 14,last year i went to the aquaruim,it looked totally different and the F line is the 4th Common Line that i use
just subscribed.....you have great videos. question for you regarding the Culver shuttle and your text description at 1:44 regarding no track connection between the shuttle and the main line....from Google Maps it looks like there’s some steel elevated structure for a connection towards the southern end of the station?
Hey Dj, Nice videos. As a child i remember seeing trains heading from 35th or 36th street in brooklyn and seeing a little tunnel on 3rd avenue and it would cross the avenue and park where the cosco now is. Any idea of what i'm Talking about? This was in early 90's B train i think.
DJ, I have what might sound like a silly question: The el structure that carries the F train from Ditmas to Avenue X is constructed with the more "modern" or conventional 1915-1919 plated girder design. But after Avenue X, lets say around Shell Road and Bouck Ct to Sheepshead Bay Road and West 6th St, the el structure uses what appears to be an older, yet very heavily reinforced "lattice" construction; looks like the late 19th century construction that would have been used on the 2nd or 3rd Ave els in Manhattan although the columns are more early 20th century in design. Why the difference???????
+TheChicagoL The lattice structure is lighter. The ground in the area of the lattice structure was deemed at the time to be unable to support the standard heavyweight girder design.
When did you film this, in a Sunday morning at 7:00???? I think we saw about 10 people on this trip!! I used to live on McDonald Ave. right near the 18th Ave. station, and that was a NOISY! Especially in the summer with the windows open and no A.C.!! Maybe they shouldn't have spent all that money connecting the IND to the Culver line!! They could have torn it down and ran shuttle buses back and forth!! Anyway, nice video! It did bring back SOME memories.
we can barley see the WTC. was the shuttle an s train? nice video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. but why was the structure demolished? why was the shuttle abandoned l. For Dj hammers
+Rimi Das shuttle was abandoned because 1. The MTA was in deep financial pit, and 2. Rarely anyone used the shuttle back then, it was mostly an empty 4 car train.
I guess so. I was wondering what happened to Van Sicklen.I remember the wooden trains with the observation platforms on each car in the 40's & 50's when it was the Culver Line. You could watch them building Trump Village in the 50's. My station Ave M-N. Went to Lafayette by train.
+Daniel Multz The front sign on the R160 cars cycles on and off really quickly. Sometimes, the shutter speed of my camera is fast enough to make that visible.
I used to HATE taking the F train, because of the Bay Parkway station and the large cemetery surrounding it. Scared me as a kid, and would beg my mom to take the D, N or Q train instead.
Having grown up in Brooklyn, I remember passing by Washington Cemetery (where the Bay Parkway station is). It is a very old Jewish burial ground which Wikipedia says dates back to 1857. My guess is that they put a station there to allow relatives of those buried there be able to visit whenever. Apparently in 1857, that part of Kings County wasn't incorporated into the City of Brooklyn yet. Brooklyn only became a borough of NY in 1898. Brooklyn Rapid Transit Company was formed in 1896 but went bankrupt in 1919 and was restructured and came out of bankruptcy as the Brooklyn Manhattan Transit (BMT) in 1923.
I was born in what is now called the Greenwood area and grew up in Bay Ridge, although I spent a lot of my time riding around Brooklyn on my bicycle! :)
I live in Coney Island for over 10 years. I miss my daily hour commutes into the city. LOVE THE VIDEO
Excellent video, both parts. Family lived on L.I., this is one of several NYC subway lines I've never experienced. This is the closest for now without actually riding the trains, save for the Neptune Ave station stop. I'm certain a lot has changed since my teen days leaving N.Y. for Arizona in 1967..And I'm now here in E. Miss..No rapid transit here, no buses or taxis here in Philadelphia/Neshoba. Enjoyed it. Thanks! !
When I was a kid in the ‘70s my grandparents lived near the Ditmas Avenue station. My parents would take my brother and I to visit them on the F train from Queens. I remember when the Coney Island bound side of the station was an island platform and the Culver shuttle was still running. I don’t recall ever seeing a shuttle train either in the station or on the elevated tracks leading to the station. But I recall the elevated tracks very clearly.
Brings back good memories I lived on east 2 nd street and coutelyou Rd. From 1975 to 1993 the F train was my line best days
The horn at the beginning was to ensure that construction workers are clear of the tracks
I rode that train since I was 6 years old to go to Carroll Street to go see my grandmother. That was in 1967. From 1987-2016 that train took me to my job at Wall Street (switching at Jay Street). Fir a few years I worked midtown, thus took it to Rock Center. Platform did undergo a huge renovation, but nothing ever collapsed to the street below. I know, I lived there from 1967-2016. A few bolts came down but that was it. The cement slabs sat in a frame and did wobble a bit, but never collapsed. In the ‘70’s the middle track was used for express stops during rush hour. That ended at some point, but they did occasionally run it. I actually thought the F train was one of the most reliable. On 9-11 I recall walking from Wall Street, over Manhattan Bridge, to Jay Street stop to catch the F train home. When I got off at 18th Ave (as hard as I tried not to look ) you could see the smoke coming from Ground Zero. I was two blocks from the station (one side was Parkville Ave, the other 18th Ave). Took it Coney Island bound as a teen to go to the beach. Fun times!
The E and F trains were my lines growing up in Jamaica, Queens, but never had taken the F to Coney Island. Nice to see this end of the line.
Would you all believe that the yrs. living in the N.Y. area, never went to Coney Island? Saw the MTA Transit yard, but not the amusement area, Or Stillwell Ave/Coney Island Station!!
This three-part series is fascinating. There is so much to be learned about the system's evolution. Thanks for the commentary.
It sucks that he doesn't do this more often
That cemetery at Bay Parkway makes the whole setting kind of eerie and strange. And that neon green edge at Kings Hwy is actually cool lol
One bit of history left out: there used to be a walkway above the street from the lower level of the Aquarium station that went all the way to the beach and the Aquarium itself. I went there in 2012, first time in some years then when I went again at the time of this video it was gone. I have no idea why they removed it unless it got to decrepit to rehabilitate. It did not look too bad to me at the time.
1:30 at first I thought that was a terminal for the (F) train until I found on the internet, It was just a shuttle, and the shuttle was called the (SS) train
Until it was later demolished somewhere around the 1970's
rafael asuncionXD the culver shuttle ended its run in may of 1975.
18th -Avenue was my stop. 4/26/2019 I miss that old train.
Me too! Lived on 48 street and 18 Ave. took that train to my Wall Street job for years!
Nice to see this line.
You should do the Queens Blvd line next.
Today ave x are closed
Those are the original Golden Arches from that franchise
Thanks for an awesome video! Especially for the history of each of those stations referenced. Riding the F train as a kid, I always wondered why they built a subway station surrounded by a cemetery. I used to be afraid to travel through there at night. Also, I remember the Bay Parkway station as 22 Av/Bay Parkway station and the Neptune Avenue station as the Neptune/Van Sicklen station in the '80's. It's amazing that I still reference those stations as the former as I still call the Jay Street station the Jay Street Borough Hall station. I guess I need to move back to New York. Keep up the good work as I will continue to watch your videos. Thanks!
The south bound platform at Ditmas was converted into an island platform when the ramp was built. Then it was converted back!
After 1960 they removed the unused tracks from the shuttle completely, leaving just the bare steel of the El.
I remember in the 1960's they replaced all of the WOODEN platforms on the line with concrete. I guess they never touched them again until recently! They also replaced the wooden station walls with metal at that time too. I missed the windows that allowed you to see the street below from the platform! I don't think they ever removed the wooden platforms from the shuttle.
The Culver EL, which opened in 1919 replaced an even older surface route (trolley) that used overhead power. The EL has most of the same station stops as the former surface line. McDonald Ave, was probably named after the man who was responsible for building the IRT. The entire length of the street may have been called Shell Road before that. The tracks of this former surface line, and the trolley wires remained in use for some time after the El was built. I remember seeing the power wires suspended from the El structure in the 60's. The tracks were used by the South Brooklyn Railway, a freight line owned by the then NYCTA. Late an night they would haul new subway cars into the Coney Island yards via small diesel loco's down these tracks which ran from the subway yard to the Brooklyn docks where the cars were unloaded off of barges. I remember seeing those diesel trains going down McDonald Ave. The NYCTA used to give rail fan tours of the Coney Island shops on Ave X next to the yard. I was on one of those tours years ago. Very interesting place! The yard was one of the 'gems' that the TA recaptured from the former BMT.
The Avenue X station used to have two entrances. The south bound one was closed down in the past, perhaps after a fire. It was never reopened due to the political clout of the merchants on Ave X, who wanted the business of riders who would have to walk all the way past the south entrance to Ave X. I lived south of the station, and our neighborhood tried to get the other entrance opened for years, but we didn't have the political clout to get it done. Rumor had it that the merchants had the mob behind them!
I remember one side of the Ave X station being closed for repairs when I lived in Brooklyn. We just walked the extra distance to the Van Sicklen (now Neptune Ave) station south of us. It was only about 5 minutes further away.
The fact that the Neptune Ave (Van Sicklen) station opened later than the rest of the line explains something I've always wondered. The section of the Culver line between Ave X and West 8th St is built using lattice girders to support the tracks, while the rest of the El used sheet girders. It's obvious that this section was added to the El later, (using cheaper construction), and perhaps the EL structure once ended at Ave X to dump down into the yard. The connection of the Culver to Coney Island via the Brighton line may have been an after thought. The unused track girders for local tracks on the El from the Culver connection to the Ocean Parkway station suggest this.
I bet that curve was designed for 60' long cars and NOT 75' long ones. That probably wears out the tracks and wheels too quickly!
The Cyclone once had a 'twin' named the Tornado. I remember the parachute jump operating at Steeplechase park. I also remember going to that park as a kid, but I was too young to go on the parachute jump.
Some additional notes: McDonald Avenue was previously named Gravesend Avenue not Shell Road. The BMT designed and built 67' long Standard cars in the World War 1 era which ran until the late 1960s. They traversed those sharp curves too despite being longer than today's standard 60' cars.
Imagine the city of Brooklyn (That's what it was until the 1898 consolidation) as it was before the first world war; most of it was rural. What seems like close stations today, was actually a great distance back 100 or so years ago. It was the elevateds and the trolly cars that led to the development of the outer boroughs. Mind you, most of the history of the BMT lines were the BRT lines and the small train lines that were first built at grade during the mid to late 19th century and then later elevated and then connected to the IND lines after the 1940's.
The IND 6th Avenue Lines(Orange Lines) do run a lot on BMT Trackage. It explains why they have BMT Radio Frequencies.
This and the IND line extension over the former Fulton Street Elevated were the first uses of former BMT Dual Contracts trackage by IND trains. The 11th Street Connector in Long Island City which was built during the same era also allowed BMT trains to use IND tracks to extend their routes further into Queens. However it wasn't until November 1967 that the BMT and IND were fully integrated into one division when the Chrystie Street Connection opened.
It was demolished in 1985 from 13th ave and 37th st. in Borough Park to Cortelyou rd. in Kensington. I know it because I live this neighborhood I saw it as it happened.
Great video! Keep making more of these. They are great.
Thanks
+Aldair Rojano Not you!
Great video! the Ave I and 18th Avenue Stations though are not unremarkable to me since I grew up near them You could say Ave I was where my interest in subways began... Bay Pkwy is odd with the large Washington Cemetary surrounding the station. However, but in earlier times, many transit systems went to cemeteries as it was a custom to have picnics in them while visiting deceased family members. Maybe that is why the station exists, because of the old Culver line surface line?
U always have the best videos.
Beautiful tour of the Culver Line, DJ Hammers. When I went to Coney Island as a kid, the last station consisted of several train lines coming into for the subway/EL lines, The Steeplechase was my favorite location for fun, too bad it burned down. Excellent video :o)
+Larry R Wendell Jr Thanks! That station is West 8th St. I think I have a video of that stop on my channel.
Dj Hammers You are welcome DJ! I'll check it out at your channel which I have in my favorites! :o)
You neglected to mention that the Aquarium stop used to have a passageway over the street so people could go to the aquarium without having to worry about traffic on the street below.
1:16 How Easy would’ve it been to get from the culver line to Atlantic Terminal.
Keep making more and keep up the good work these are awesome
As you pan while at Bay Parkway, the camera settles on a a white apartment building a short distance away. My parents lived in that building, near the intersection of Ocean Parkway and Avenue L, for nearly 30 years. Before I moved out on my own, I rode the F train to my job in Manhattan. There's a shortcut to the building via a park adjacent to the cemetery.
+David Thaler Interesting story! I know many people who live or used to live in that area!
Dj Hammers We lived on the 11th floor and had a great view of the lower Manhattan skyline...before 9/11 of course.
I remember the culver shuttle. 9th ave (B) to ditmas park (F)
Great tour! At Bay Parkway, though, there’s no cemetery at the NE corner- it’s just a gas station and Bolla Market convenience store.
great vid as usual,good to have more in-depth information about the subway system.in my train system theres also a station right next to a cemetery,but the problem there are the living,not the dead,haha.(translation-lots of assaults)
I distinctly recall when the southbound side of the Ditmas Avenue station was an island platform.
+paktype That was before my time. I've seen photos of it though. The trackway supports are still there on the other side of the platform.
Dj Hammers I remember the island platform but not the Culver Shuttle actually running.
Trains ran on the old Culver section along 39th St. until 1973 or 1974. I vaguely recall that service ran thru from Manhattan to Ditmas on that route for awhile, then became just a shuttle. Perhaps someone can fill in the details.
The South Brooklyn Railway did more than just shuttle subway cars to the yard. There were a couple of freight sidings leading off it into / between industrial buildings along the way. There was one of these on the west side of McDonald Avenue between Kings Highway and Avenue S. There was also a connection at Parkville to the Bay Ridge Division of what I think was once the New Haven, or at least when I attended Brooklyn College during the 60s there would be freights hauled along that line by New Haven electric locomotives to and from the Bay Ridge car floats. There was some freight traffic on the SBK itself way back when. Also the McDonald Avenue trolley line shared those tracks from Ditmas to Avenue X, then continued on via private ROW to the trolley terminal where Brightwater Towers now stands, near the Aquairum. The tracks beneath the elevated around Ditmas Avenue were regular railroad tracks with exposed ties for a block or two around the point where the SBK and the trolley line parted company, just south of the ramp that connects the el to the Church Avenue station. Some Church Avenue trolley runs would diverge from Church to McDonald and then terminate at a loop at 16th Avenue, sharing the SBK route along with the McDonald cars. Also at one point certain Culver service via the old all-BMT route was provided by Staten Island Rapid Transit cars which the city acquired. They were quite similar to BMT Standards though could not M-U with them. I remember seeing those as a young kid who was fascinated with the subways. The memories remain.
At some stations there's complex rhythm to the clatter. If I were a drummer, I'd try to reproduce that rhythm with my drums.
Thanks for the education!
when i went to the aquarium,the aquarium was not the same as today's aquarium's difference when i was 10,but im 14,last year i went to the aquaruim,it looked totally different and the F line is the 4th Common Line that i use
just subscribed.....you have great videos. question for you regarding the Culver shuttle and your text description at 1:44 regarding no track connection between the shuttle and the main line....from Google Maps it looks like there’s some steel elevated structure for a connection towards the southern end of the station?
Hey Dj, Nice videos. As a child i remember seeing trains heading from 35th or 36th street in brooklyn and seeing a little tunnel on 3rd avenue and it would cross the avenue and park where the cosco now is. Any idea of what i'm Talking about? This was in early 90's B train i think.
I found the video of the culver shuttle in May 1975
Dj Hammers, you make the best videos in the world. Keep up the good work. Could you more Coney Island videos with...
+Kenyan Ward Thanks!!! When I get a chance, I'll do some South Brooklyn area videos.
Dj Hammers He Is Right, BEST VIDEOS. But I Need To Tell Ya, can you make a vid with the V, 12, 11, U, K, And T Train?
Azfanlofun V train doesn’t exist anymore. And all other trains also don’t exist.
Flower Lover they all exists actually but due to Budget they don’t exist anymore
DJ, I have what might sound like a silly question: The el structure that carries the F train from Ditmas to Avenue X is constructed with the more "modern" or conventional 1915-1919 plated girder design. But after Avenue X, lets say around Shell Road and Bouck Ct to Sheepshead Bay Road and West 6th St, the el structure uses what appears to be an older, yet very heavily reinforced "lattice" construction; looks like the late 19th century construction that would have been used on the 2nd or 3rd Ave els in Manhattan although the columns are more early 20th century in design. Why the difference???????
+TheChicagoL The lattice structure is lighter. The ground in the area of the lattice structure was deemed at the time to be unable to support the standard heavyweight girder design.
+Dj Hammers
Thanks for the clarification......makes a lot of sense.
When did you film this, in a Sunday morning at 7:00???? I think we saw about 10 people on this trip!! I used to live on McDonald Ave. right near the 18th Ave. station, and that was a NOISY! Especially in the summer with the windows open and no A.C.!! Maybe they shouldn't have spent all that money connecting the IND to the Culver line!! They could have torn it down and ran shuttle buses back and forth!! Anyway, nice video! It did bring back SOME memories.
I lived there too...for 50 years!
Nice look at the Culver Shuttle here on CZcams! Search for "Final Days of the Culver Shuttle"
The ave I & N stops connect with bklyn buses. At ave I It's the B11-ave N its the B9.
18 Ave as well...B8 bus.
we can barley see the WTC. was the shuttle an s train? nice video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. but why was the structure demolished? why was the shuttle abandoned l. For Dj hammers
+Rimi Das shuttle was abandoned because 1. The MTA was in deep financial pit, and 2. Rarely anyone used the shuttle back then, it was mostly an empty 4 car train.
Sometimes I would catch the train at Ditmas Avenue.
Neptune Avenue was once called Van Sicklyn Avenue
I guess so. I was wondering what happened to Van Sicklen.I remember the wooden trains with the observation platforms on each car in the 40's & 50's when it was the Culver Line. You could watch them building Trump Village in the 50's. My station Ave M-N. Went to Lafayette by train.
Ow ow owww that was loud 25:27
Why does it only look like the sign is spinning sometimes?
+Daniel Multz The front sign on the R160 cars cycles on and off really quickly. Sometimes, the shutter speed of my camera is fast enough to make that visible.
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Light frequency
Camera doesn't always pick it up
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I used to HATE taking the F train, because of the Bay Parkway station and the large cemetery surrounding it. Scared me as a kid, and would beg my mom to take the D, N or Q train instead.
I always admired it. But I see your point.
Con Edison plant tree as well, across from cemetery
The graveyard so people can visit graves
@ 24:58 SIEMENS!!!
November 2 opening day ditmas ave
Correct!
Giant. Cematary
Washington Cemetery. One of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in the city.
Ver. Line. Is. Ugy
F local train
Not reading that sh!t