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- čas přidán 20. 10. 2016
- Former Liverpool and Nottingham Forest striker Stan Collymore discusses Ulrika, Gazza and Joey Barton on an episode of League of Legends with Adam Carruthers.
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One hell of a player, and has now become a brilliant pundit.
You can't argue with the facts- He is still apologizing for it nearly twenty years later. Stan makes some very good points here. Good pundit as well.
Gazza and Ulrika were both national treasure's, the nation adored them both. That's why Gazza got away with it and Collymore was vilified.
One of our finest.
legend at our club.
also he happens to be a great bloke.
Humble as they come.
coyr
The likely reason Collymore is treated differently to Barton and Gazza is because we all mostly knew and liked the victim.
Almost no one could name Gascoigne's wife, whom he serially abused. Almost no one could tell you who Barton beat up and went to jail for.
Did we like Ulrika?
His wife was called Cheryl if i remember right and the victim was a youth team player who barton stubbed out a cigar in his eye.
He's spot on. I'd almost forgotten Gazza used to use his wife as a punchbag.
Whaaaat?
problem is other than the white suits at wembley, what else is memorable from stans career? good player but never made the inroads he should have. gazza was no doubt a twat at times but hes always gonna be remembered for flicking the ball over hendrys head and burying it in the bottom corner at the most memorable tournament countrys ever seen, o and the tears at italia
i am pleasantly surprised at how intelligent and articulate stan collymore is. when he was on talk sport he was by far the most knowledgeable about football during his time there.
Agree totally with him re Gascoigne and Barton
Can you imagine Gazza hosting match of the day 😂😂
He was a pundit for ITV during the 2002 World Cup. He turns up drunk for the opening match. That World Cup was in the far east so the time difference meant all games took place in the morning - he was smashed not long after dawn had broken.
The only other possibility is because Ulrika was almost "nations sweetheart" at the time, although I am pretty sure what Stan says is mostly true also
He's bang on about Gazza
It's because you ARE a Bastard
Vast majority of my family are blacker than you could dream about.
But they are likeable too.
You are a Prick
@@brianclark8159 what, " vast majority of your family are black but they're likeable" herein lies your racist sentiments, you are a racist pure and simple.
Rigsby 1 in a way but Gaza was class on a football field Stan was average
100%
Gazza was one of the greatest players of his generation and was a cultural icon in his heyday.
Add to that, there are bigger controversies mentioned EVERY time he's written about, like the fact he destroyed himself with drink and drugs.
Another thing, Ulrika Johnson is a public figure and is MUCH MORE famous than Stan Collymore, so it's reasonable that some reporters might mention what happened to jog some memories as to who Stan Collymore is. For example, if I say to my Mom, "do you remember Stan Collymore", she'll not have a clue who I'm talking about, but if I add "he's the footballer who hit Ulrika Johnson", she has a much higher chance of remembering something about that.
Stan is honest. Honesty is hard n painful. It takes a big person to admit they were wrong. You have to respect anyone who admits they were wrong.
The past is the past. Let it lie n move on. Well done Stan.
He's honest because it was national news. You really think if these were just allegations he wouldn't deny them? Like he did the first time round.
Stan is anything but a big man. He is a horrible filthy rat.
One of the most talented footballers I have ever seen totally unplayable at times unfortunately the culture of players at that time especially Liverpool and the personality of Stanley Victor destroyed any chance of reaching the heights he easily was capable of only 3 England Caps tells a story
Like Wilshere one of our great lost talents
Very honest and balanced Stan. You would enhance TV punditry. Good Luck.
are you due this prick catalogue money is is a untalented girl slapper
When I think of Stan I don't think 'he slapped Ulrika'i think wonderful player on his day then I remember the story of him lighting a cigar with £20 notes at a working men's club,in short Jekyll and Hyde.
Have to agree with him, it’s a point well explained.
Bravo Martin....if you're avatar is any indication, that is a very brave and noble statement.
i used to luv Stan as a pundit on talksport, speaks the truth.
Bang on about everything Stan
He's got a point to be fair
Wasn't just the once though, he knocked her about and pushed her down the stairs in The Shoal Hill Tavern in Cannock but this wasn't widely reported!
I've completely changed my opinion regarding Stan having read that reply.
Good point about Gazza
It was a long time ago and yest it was dreadful , I remember him acting tough and threatening that silly Vanilla Ice guy on some reality show, he was a proper bully but most of us have done things years ago that we cant ever be proud off, people move on and he now sounds like a very different man, good on him for how much he has grown
Stan has great things to say and says them very well, his problem as I see it is that he challenges the status quo and that won’t do, he obviously hates my club Leeds but that’s ok. I think he understands fans as well as the players
Lets not forget. Joey Bartons brother ALSO killed a kid with an Axe to the head.
why is this relevant?
Its relevant because Joey Barton is a violent thug, who comes from a family of violent thugs, but he gets to pretend he's some sort of 'working man genius' who reads Nietzsche. Its a double standard. Stan had one incident with an ex-GF and cant get tv jobs and gets hate from is some 20 years later. Gimme a break.
valid comment. My Q remains the same..why is this relevant?
Oh i get it....Stan fan boy? Staffordshire based?
Matt Burrows nope, im a liverpool fan, but i do see a clear double standard and all the racist comments he gets on twitter.
I like this guy because he's HONEST.
Well said Stan. Jamie carragher. Spits at a child and gets his job back after a nice long holiday. Case closed
Great video Stan
Well done Stan, you make sense and seem a good guy
what? when do good guys kick people in the head or assault people? What he did to Ulrika was evil.
Takes guts to confront the issue head on, and he articulates himself well. He's right to bring up the Gazza issue. Even Barton, to an extent. As for the differential treatment, it's hard to say. Race may well come into it, and that should be a discussion people can have without morons screaming "he's playing the race card!"
I like this man .UK TV should offer him work
He has done the personal work
He got a Glasgow Kiss from the Barman outside in Paris.
He's a bright guy and every one of us has fucked up on some level and disappointed our mothers at some point it's how you react and make yourself a better person that's important remorse and regret he's got it in bucket load's
Difference between stan and gazza is gazza is and was a legend . Stan was an ok player who always thought way too much of himself. No one likes a big head who thinks he is better than everyone else .
You are 100% correct, plus nobody likes a woman beater, also a well known dogger. If Stan was Jack the Ripper as long as he was knocking the goals in, the fans would justify his actions.
Well said!!.. Why can't the British press let it go!!..This guy would be an asset to any TV show. He is clearly a bright and intelligent guy with lots to say.. I know NOTHING about football but i had the misfortune the other day to witness poor Paul Gascoigne have a shambolic interview and he was desperately trying to be humorous and mumbled his way through his segment?... and Stan is not getting offered certain jobs by TV companies!!.. How the hell does that stack up!!..
Quite simply because Ulrika Johnson was famous. If Joey Barton had decked Cheryl Cole outside McDonald's it would be mentioned every day of the year.
Graeme Criddle exactly fucking right, and because he was never an England legend like Gazza, nobody actually gives a fuck about big mouth Barton, Ulrika was just as famous as Collymore if not more so
Graeme Criddle Ulrika was much more famous outside of Football.
And also Gazza was the greatest British footballer of his generation,,and was a well loved character. Stan was an arrogant bully/bottle boy when he played and wasn`t liked then either .
it should not matter gazza wife was not just some bird down the pub violent behaver is the same who ever you hit
denzil knox You're right mate. But the Media love the "bigger" stories with Celebrity's in.
I spent a great night , with Stan and others , in bars at Porto Banus . My impression was that he is very highly intelligent and was able to converse on two or more topics at once with multiple people . At the same time he was handling offers to fight from drunken clowns . I was very impressed . .
Quite right Stan 2 tier society ..much love ..
Stan, Well said, your a top bloke, very honest appraisal of your life, onward and upwards mate
Got time for Stan great points he makes
He kicked her in the head. The trauma he caused her, and the people who witnessed the event is unforgivable.
Yes he's very likeable
He's totally got a point here. Why is Gazza revered??
I think it is because he is not as up himself as Stan is.
Gaza seems more likable to the media.
Music - The Voice Of The Soul coz gazza was a genius, stan wasn't.
its simply not true though, gazza is binned by the media just as much and we are all sick of him now just as much as stan
J 16 was he isn't a genius is he... if he was a genius he wouldn't be a pisshead on his last legs... he's abit of an idiot to be fair
Big - WAS a genius on the pitch!!! STAN WASN'T
Music - The Voice Of The Soul ...coz he played for the great Glasgow Rangers!!!
Very well said Stanley 👌
Collymore was a legend at Real Oviedo
Stan is completely spot on. Stan the man stay strong 💪 hailhail
He's damn right about the racial double standards.
No he isn't. Gazza was loved by the country and had many endearing moments. Stan was always the bad boy. Gazza is just someone that's impossible to hate but Stan had a way about him that was abrasive. When you picture Gazza it's always brings a smile. When you picture Stan it's not so warming. It's not Stans fault. Some people just aren't as likeable as others regardless of colour.
Maybe. What would it be like if he was fully black then.
@@gurneymcbuzzin Italia '90 and Euro '96 are the endearing markers.
Pathetic. Stan just isn't a likeable guy end of debate. Shame on you Fukin virtue signalling idiots too. Get a life
@@gurneymcbuzzin I just highlighted their respective contributions to the national team. Where SC has zero
always liked stan
Stay strong Stanley! I agree with you on this one mate.
Ulrika Johnson was a massive Celebrity at the time.
Yep. She was the golden girl.
So jealous of Gazza
Fair play
I wonder has Stan considered that it's still hangs over him because it was one of the biggest celebrities on television at the time that he punched, then kicked when she was on the ground
I like Stans honesty he’s been very open with his struggles but he lowers himself here by playing the race card
britishbluetess well explain why gazza gets a pass?
Stan u really have to stop apologising and explaining ur self to the media everything u said is true. The media and the public only pick on u cos of the colour of ur skin keep ur head up u was a top top player and a very good media pundit 💯🔥🔥
Good and valid points made here...George Best was a fantastic tactically brilliant player, but he broke the ribs of his ex wife...black eyes, slept with her friends and the list goes on. Someone has a talent that is adored by millions is more important than what he does to his wife/girlfriend etc. I can honestly think of 9 players that have beaten their partners in drunken brawls but it never gets mentioned, Stan has a point, possibly.
Possibly?
The reasons are more likely linked to Ulrika's prominance in the media at the time & she had peak time, weekend show slots on TV & was very much in the media & public eye. Gazza was such a big England player in the 90s and a publicly battling alcoholic making him both a cult icon and a tragic one drawing more sympathy. He is associated with tears & anguish during his career alot more than the magic moments. Joey Barton is frankly down to media ignorance & irresponsibility; he had a fairly average top flight career, never really achieved at a top club & is a terrible media pundit so who rates him or why is a mystery. This doesn't make it right of course, racist views may well play a part in Stan's case but then again any fall out from abuse that a man or woman commits to the opposite sex will rightly be of his/her own making & what ever that happens after will be what it will be. All being said I do respect how Stan handled the question and hopefully he has managed the violent edges that he may have had underlying at the time and is a better man now for it.
I don't think it's the race thing, I think it's cos of who he hit! a famous girl with friends in the media
The Green Devil ..you are right it is abt who he hit but its also a discrete race thing..Ashely cole..and Cheryl..Tiger Woods and his infidelity are other e.gs. As far as some in society are concerned a black man better be in best behaviour when he's with a desirable white lady or face the consequences.
Or because it’s the only memorable thing Stan has done in his life
The nation loved Gazza. Most that worked with him still love him and talk about the wonderful memories. Stan was the total opposite. Don’t make it fair mind but that’s how it is.
Apologies are for your own mental peace, it doesn't take away what you did and that moment and what it might have affected that lady psychologically
I think you raise a good point, but it always crossed mind that Stan hit a well fancied TV presenter on the "inside" and these peeps never let go....if Gazza had hit the same woman, he would have gone through the same imo...not that this is right at all, but maybe closer to the truth of longevity of persecution. Respect for the raw truth and remorse though, i genuinely believe Stan is a good guy that made one mistake under a mist of jealousy and drink.
Ian Wright is one of the best pundits and it took him years before he was a regular on match of the day
100% its race.
18 years ago the only place to hit ulrica, was in the A with ya D my son
James Day :)
You stupid twat
@@vinceiswatchingyou pp
Spot on Stan!
His apology is insincere, and he makes excuses and claims double standard - which is b*llox. Ulrika Johnson was revered and loved by the British people, and attacking such an effeminate and articulate women is genuinely shocking. He punched her to the floor and kicked her when she was down - something he plays down and attempts to frame as 'attacking'. The alleged equivalence between him and Gazza is laughable. Like Ulrika, Gazza was loved by the people and a footballing hero to-boot (his wife was an unknown), and Collymore was never liked at any club he was at - it nothing to do with him being mixed race (what a cheap-shot that was btw).
So it's ok to beat up an unknown what bull you write Gaza is just as bad as Stan in all ways just because he is a clown well let him off eh
Also it's not a cheap shot about the race he is right on point it's ignorance from people like you that's the problem with this country and I'm white before you ask
He didn't say what Ulrica said or done to make him snap?
Super Ally came to the Ulrika's rescue,,, leave Gazza out of it jealousy will get you nowhere , Joey served his time you never got jailed
If we went through life apologising all the time as certain people would have us do then we'd never learn and grow as humans. I think I know who's grown as a human out of Stan, Joey and Gazza.
Still the best radio I've ever heard was Stan losing it completely after a caller said he " was bonkers",talking about football, not mental health.Whatever anti depressants he was on I bet he was grinding his teeth too!
nothing wrong with this prick he is was a bully put in his place by a fat jock ally mciost
Made a miatake. Articulatws himself well and believe he's genuinely sorry. The ones that won't forgive are most likely the ones that have not been perfect themselves.
Talking about being reminded of it on twitter everyday "if that's not punishment enough I'm not sure what is". How about jail time? Twitter is no punishment whatsoever he can delete it anytime he wants
I’ve always believed the old adage ‘never hit a woman’. However having suffered at the hands of a violent ex, and over the years heard similar tales from my male friends, I now think that saying needs adapting to ‘unless you are hit or provoked by a woman.
i like u stan
I like stan like roy keano no bullshit
hard to not agree with the guy, but i think the thing that goes against him is just how big the news story was when he hit Ulrika it was all over the news
Yeah because Joey Barton is loved isn’t he ?
It could just be that Ulrika was famous
Dan Larkin I think you are right. Ulkrika was the nations favorite so what Stan did will always stain his career
But Stan if you do the crme you do the time .
Comparison is not a positive way to live
how long is this 'time' you speak of? life?
@@Stevesmith-xj7xe
I agree he done his time so leave it there don't speak about it .
Don't feed them
From what I remember the tabloids even tried to insinuate that gazza had broken his former wife's fingers in a rage of binge drinking and drugs.
It’s not about your race it’s about WHO you hit...I don’t know Bartons or Gazza’s misses, but the whole uk knows ulrika Johnson.
Mate i hear you, well said , think its the same for all ethnic and religious backgrounds in this country .sad . Im white english by the way x
Bellend
He's right whether people like it or not. He's human made a terrible mistake and has never done anything like it since. He speaks well and coherently unlike Gaza who can't string a decent sentence together and has trouble speaking English properly. When race is mentioned, why do people get all touchy and prickly about it....especially white folk! It exists even in this day and age, sometimes subtly sometimes not so subtle, but it exists. The only card I see played is white people playing the ignorant card. I'm afraid it's true. Makes you feel uncomfortable, but that's an issue certain pockets of people need to deal with!!
I thought he slung her down the stairs? I guess my memory is playing tricks on me
or mybe you believe ehat you read
He is absolutely right. Black people are looked at differently regarding violence. His comments are right.
People tend to overlook flaws in great players like Best and Gazza because they like them.
jim lennon or maybe because they’re white
@@hotepsalam Yep i think there is some of that as well.
@@hotepsalam Chuck berry did all sorts of dirty stuff and he didn't get it.
It is because of his personality and he does pull the race card.
Loads of people have hit Ulrika ,but some have struck her!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Full respect for Stan (even though he's a red). Deplorable acts by all mentioned, including the interviewee...he didn't (and hasn't) however try to brush it under the carpet. Stand, have courage, be judged. That is all.
Stan is right. Race is an issue.
the difference between him and Gazza was Gazza was a good player. outside of violence why should he be commenting on other players? he had about 2 or 3 reasonable seasons in his whole career.
Brain Donor Good point . The better you are at football = the more you can beat women up and it's ok
Love Stan total legend of a human
He's grown up in the public eye - that takes HUGE courage.
One of the most talented players in the game, but was never really given the opportunity to reach his full potential, much like Matt Le Tissier, unfortunately he didn’t fit into the box of what a England player was supposed to be.
Stan is bang on here.gazza beat his wife quite consistently.
Stan didn't and actually has been more of an example in other areas
Gazza is gazza but he isn’t playing the victim although he’s clearly damaged. Stan played the race card and is very sly and trying to be clever!
He is a animal
All respect goes to Stan but Gaza is is probably seen in a slightly different light because he was a much better football player, did more when playing with the England shirt, hence called a legend. Nothing to do with race imo.
Gazza had a personality and isnt a whiner and wouldnt try and play the race card even if he did feel skin colour an issue.
It's not race it's that certain personalities fit, others don't.
Everytime, this scenario is unravelled into an explanation and reasoning, Paul Gascoigne is mentioned to back support his argument.
Yes. Had to be about race. Yes Stan, Yes.
stan its all about you face fitting mate , take no notice it sames more about them than you
If Gazza wasn't ridiculously talented people wouldn't like him.
Top bloke and on his day unplayable
Paul Gascoigne gets called a football legend because that's what he is. You were a talented player (amongst a generation of almost 10 British strikers, you weren't a stand out) had a couple of good seasons over 10 years then mentally fell apart and retired at 31 when you were still perfectly healthy. Gazza also gets sympathy because he clearly is not neuro-typical, there's dysfunction in every part of his life but he was also known for being a very 'giving' person. I don't excuse Gazza but to even compare the public perception of him to yourself, Stan, shows either an inability to gauge others perception or denial.