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The Killing of History | Douglas Murray
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- čas přidán 24. 11. 2023
- Douglas Murray speaks about the distortion of western history and its consequences.
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Douglas Murray is a prolific British author
and journalist. He has been contributor to The Spectator since 2000 and has been associate editor of the magazine since 2012. He has also written regularly for numerous other outlets, including: the Wall Street Journal, The Times, The Sunday Times, The Sun, The Evening Standard, and the New Criterion. He is a regular contributor to National Review and has been a columnist for Standpoint Magazine since its founding. His latest book, 'The War on the West', was published in May 2022.
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As a Māori myself, I totally agree, we have certain historical pockets of extreme violence like everyone else does, not greater than thou by any stretch.
All human beings ever have a cruel violent side. It's just how it is. I cite a group of cuddly sweet old grannies at a wrestling match.
Yes sure BUT the British colonists were even more brutal and calculatively evil.
@@dionoliveira4058really, there were far worse out there than the British, how about the catholics?
You're joking right.
@dionoliveira4058 You obviously are entirely ignorant of British history, in particular our colonial history, which compared to many other European nations was not especially brutal. Further, unlike say France, whose last years in Algeria during the 1960s was marked by the deaths of at least 400,000 Algerians, our departure was relatively peaceful. Their is a reason why many of our ex colonies, and a few whom we were never involved with, elected to join the Commonwealth. Of course, if you are viewing British history through the lens of Marxist historians, who pursue an anti West agenda while 'overlooking' the extremes of Communist nations, then your opinions are only to be expected.
Rule one in the socialist handbook, never let the truth get in your way, howl it down, cancel it and deny it but never let it get in your way.
Douglas Murray tells it pretty much as it was told in history, as for those saying it didn't happen, well you wouldn't be here without colonization.
@@janconway2880 yep. I also disagree with framing the entire greatness of western history as just „colonialism“. It was SO much more than that, also often benefitting the colonized. For example Britain and India. The British wanted to leave idea as it is. It was common practice to not just take land, but to negotiate treaties benefitting both parties. It was also the Indians who said „no, please don’t leave us with our education, we need the European stuff.“ as they recognized how beneficial the scientific knowledge of the Christian Europeans was. Both countries were better off. That’s just one example.
This is exactly the same method used by Chinese communist party after they took over China in 1949. They changed, denied, edited, erased Chinese modern history completely to their advantages. I can't even go back to Shanghai to see my 90 year old mom because I spoke up against ccp.
That is European history 😆
Absolutely right
Our Maori Party keeps claiming that colonialism was so bad for Maori. They seem to overlook the fact that since 1840 Maori life expectancy has more than doubled.
statistically across the board the gap is plane to see. Damage control is what this man is doing. He doesnt fool the majority ,the tables are turning.
Exactly.././
Trudeau needs to hear this. He loves to apologise for everything whilst attempting to rewrite history.
Trudeau is an obvious narcissist and therefore completely oblivious to the relevance of truth.
There is no civilization in the West and does not confuse civilization with the tools of serving and making civilization and do not confuse civilization and luxury, especially based on banditry.
The West is barbaric throughout history but they are smart in hiding their asphaly and attaching them to others.
To create America:
• More than 27 million Red Indians were excommated and their land was occupied.
And to build America:
• More than 14 million Africans were brought in, enslaved, and more than 2 million Africans died at sea because of the humorable way of transporting them...
And for America to expand
• More than a million and a half Mexicans were killed and their land was occupied...
And for America to remain:
• More than 6 million were killed in the World War, including 300,000 in Hiroshima and Japan's Nagasaki.
And for America to prove:
• More than 2 million Vietnamese have been killed.
And to dominate America's neighbors:
• More than 200,000 were killed in
Trinidad, Nicaragua and Cuba.
And to secure America's energy sources:
More than 2 million Iraqis were killed
And America continues to prove to
everyone its democracy and observance of
human rights around the world
Canadians need to vote him out!
@@user-hf2vt1nh2i Western Political Philosophies Summarised
Left Wing Progressive - Maximize freedom & equality by abolishing traditional/religious taboos.
Right Wing Conservative - Maximize freedom & equality by preserving individual rights.
Libertarian - Maximize freedom & equality by severely limiting government.
Communist - Maximize freedom & equality by abolishing private property.
Socialist - Maximize freedom & equality by redistributing wealth.
Nationalist - Maximize freedom & equality by prioritizing national/ethnic/racial interests to the exclusion of others.
Anarchist - Maximize freedom & equality by abolishing government.
Transhumanist - Maximize freedom & equality by using technology to re-engineer humanity.
Ultimately, how different are these philosophies? They all believe in the same ends but propose differing means to those ends.
Western political debate never transcends this very limited discourse revolving around how to maximize freedom and equality.
True alternatives are never in the equation.
Trudeau is a fool, He is stuck in His own pre programmed set of beliefs, He would Never listen to anyone else
The super intelligent Douglas Murray speaking the truth, he's a national treasure.
I think he's just a right-wing hate mongerer
So you think. You'd know as much about new zealand history as Douglas does . Look up the 1840 treaty of waitangi for starters. And remember an englishmans word is his honour.
@@rikgell2650
Fed up with people digging up long dead history, of passed lost battles, and carrying on like they were murdered yesterday, the past was brutal looking through the eyes of the civilised, stop the finger pointing 👈
Treasure of which nation? The UK or the USA?
He’s talking as if he’s running the country. 😂 It’s funny as he’s just a journalist.
Imagine a Western civilisation with leaders only half as sharp-witted and courageous as Douglas and we'd be fine.
No thank you, keep the pompous bigot.
Prosperity for Europeans. This would be the result.
imagine getting tricked by a crypto facist because they make basic boring points with a posh accent
@@tristandavies9597 Precisely!
@@tristandavies9597Thank you for proving Douglas’ point! Instead of presenting a strong counter argument your kind is only good at quickly labeling people who may even slightly disagree with your truly BORING and PRIMITIVE binary worldview as “crypto fascists” which is so typical for today’s leftism (or should we call it crypto communism?)! And his “accent” as you call it has nothing to do with this btw. The great Ayaan Hirsi Ali speaks with strong Somali accent and yet I admire her equally for her intellect and her incredible bravery! Is your binary brain starting to melt yet? 😂😂😂
I totally respect Douglas Murray's courage in calling out the liars who twist history and are continually doing a "1984"-ish job of corrupting everything, past, present, and future.
And a special thanks, once again, to John Anderson; his programs are among the best things available on the internet. Along with people like Thomas Sowell and a few others, Mr. Anderson is one of the heroic people of our times -- and a man of true class.
Changing truth and history is always done by dictator governments.
@@fionaforward3358 I know. That's why the left is doing it.
Love Douglas Murray could listen to this man all day ....🇨🇦
Respect to both of you, John for being an excellent listener and not interjecting just to hear his own voice and Douglas for being an outstanding human.. a joy to listen to as always..thank you🇦🇺🙏
Keep fighting, Douglas. The UK needs your wisdom and clear sightedness.
Is it sad that we need people like him to feel safe to speak reason and truth?
Yes, Douggie keep spewing your hatred towards all those humans different from yourself. Dat a boy, Douggie.
The world does!
I can listen to this man all day long, he talk so much truth and sense.
Makes you feel all superior does it
that makes you a narcissist like him, and the other Pakeha ones In parliament are Psychopath Nazi's.
He is right. Pointlessly trying to make another country apologize for past mistakes. If Japan and South Korea had kept blaming USA for the wars they had in the past, they wouldn't be where they are today. They did not. Instead, they picked themselves off the ground and pushed ahead with determination. Look where they are today.
There is no civilization in the West and does not confuse civilization with the tools of serving and making civilization and do not confuse civilization and luxury, especially based on banditry.
The West is barbaric throughout history but they are smart in hiding their asphaly and attaching them to others.
To create America:
• More than 27 million Red Indians were excommated and their land was occupied.
And to build America:
• More than 14 million Africans were brought in, enslaved, and more than 2 million Africans died at sea because of the humorable way of transporting them...
And for America to expand
• More than a million and a half Mexicans were killed and their land was occupied...
And for America to remain:
• More than 6 million were killed in the World War, including 300,000 in Hiroshima and Japan's Nagasaki.
And for America to prove:
• More than 2 million Vietnamese have been killed.
And to dominate America's neighbors:
• More than 200,000 were killed in
Trinidad, Nicaragua and Cuba.
And to secure America's energy sources:
More than 2 million Iraqis were killed
And America continues to prove to
everyone its democracy and observance of
human rights around the world
I think Japan and South Korea benefitted from the US security umbrella. They also had preferential export access to both the EU and the USA. So their success is hardly due to determination alone.
@@MrLee-gj2jz If America collapsed as the Soviet Union collapsed under which umbrella ☂ , you would like to be without sovereignty or dignity. And try to focus on these attempts from close allies👇
Macron’s three commandments to his European neighbors revolved around reducing their extraterritorial dependence on the U.S. dollar, secondly avoiding being dragged into a possible U.S.-China standoff over Taiwan, and thirdly strengthening European defense industries. With these tips, Macron makes an explicit call for rebellion against the United States.
By the way, all livestock eat, drink, benefit the richness of their master.
@@mohamedali2858 1. The US bombed Hiroshima-Nagasaki not to force Japan to surrender, but to show the Soviets that the Japanese islands were under the US sphere. Japanese products were allowed into the USA even in the 1950s. That Japan could manufacture cheap but with high-quality was known to the USA even before WW2.
2. The American security umbrella was not offered to every country who wanted it. Countries with geographical advantages were sought out by the USA to join. Others whose advantages were no longer relevant to the USA were dumped. So much for soverignty and dignity.
3. What Macron says is irrelevant. The EU project owes much to American financing and security umbrella. There is already a war in which the EU has been dragged into, i.e., Russia-Ukraine. So they are already losers even before the predicted China-Taiwan standoff takes place. Basically, the EU has only luxury products and arms to sell. And the buyers are in the 3rd world.
Strange comment
Most of this looking back in time with rose tinted glasses is done by mis-guided individuals or those pushing the case for reparations. Douglas speaks so much sense.
Reparations? Never realized that money has such strong healing properties capable of curing even deep-seated psychological anguish, pain and hurt that occurred centuries ago. To those that believe it does, if you have to depend on the largesse of others to achieve material parity, then your newfound equality is just an illusion.
Their lives were much like the European peasants in the medieval period . Nasty, brutal and short .
Lazy,incompetent,entitled malcontents just wanting a handout is the reason for all this.
They already received reparations in any case....the nation of Liberia was founded for them. If they want reparations now so badly, all they have to do is move over there like the others who wanted it did.
@@ghengiscant538
Actually Hobbes described it as, "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short".
Why you single out medieval peasants is the question, since significant numbers of people in the third world live that way now and there are more slaves in the world now than when Africans dominated the practice of enslaving their fellow Africans and selling them off to all comers by the millions for centuries.
Mr. Murray is a wonderful model of clear and articulate speech
Just an idiot
I agree ! Well spoken! I really like this guy, he speaks very erudite!
He's a ponce
So true
And clear thinking.
Extremely well said and absolutely accurate!
Really what do you think happened whren the white plague hit the pacific
When somebody who is not a fool articulates so clearly what I've been seeing for decades, it's quite affirming...
Then you'll love Simon Webb of history debunked
Any time John Anderson has an interview, I am all ears. He has my utmost respect.
Douglas is the best!
i absolutely love this guy he speaks the truth and hes never afraid he is a treasure i love his videos they teach you
‘We’re here, because history happened.’ Clive James.
Indeed, and the clear resentment, animosity, hostility, and unbridled bitterness because of this reality has driven the Western Civilisations enemies to attempt to rewrite this truth. That somehow history didn’t happen. That somehow a new/fictional/fanciful history is actually what happened? And Western Civilisations enemies have been somewhat successful.
It is high time we (Western Civilisation) began protecting the truth. History. And started preventing it from being rewritten by dilettantes, and activists.
Westerners need to stop claiming credit for the West's achievements, while disassociating themselves from its crimes. This only reinforces misplaced loyalty to a civilization that never actually cared about them.👇
Absolutely no credibility. They want to take collective credit for good but never want to take the blame when things go wrong. The one thing the West has consistently done well is technology, so they approach even moral values with a technological mindset, imagining that "new" or "modern" means "improved."
I love Mr. Murray, intelligent, erudite and articulate.
So was Enoch Powell. Murray seems to have modelled himself on Powell and is obviously winning over the same sort of people.
@@davidwhite1982 You think he is wrong?
@@ireneesch8555 very much so. Why do you think he is right?
Moari sea fairing people they smelt Australia they came many times but Aboriginal people were to fast better tactical weapons and they new Moari where headhunters kept them out until the white man won't find moari blood in them until now
Excellent two men.
So very well said.
Super grateful for you.
💜
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.
And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute.
I tottaly agree with you. Thanks for your clear words.❤❤❤❤
I love this man!
I must add : when one experiences freedom for the first time, like a child moving out on their own for example, what is the first thing they do? They try to find the boundaries of their new world. However there are no boundaries. Boundaries are what we put on ourselves through morals and ethics etc. Some like the freedom so much they don't care who they tample over to enjoy it. But here is the thing, we eventually are supposed to grow up and learn from our mistakes, become accountable, and then do better to get to the next level by allowing others their journeys. This is normal, healthy living. Respect. People who are stuck, flounder. They are geared to grow but have no direction so are unable to make headway except in the wrong direction back to familiarity. Frustrated and angry. We see that with countries, governments and people in all stages. We are NOT meant to remain the same. This is why I keep banging my head regarding the States and Britain. Psychologically in their know it all stage - young adult. Adultescents. Learn and grow, not sit and ferment.
I have been told so many times by my indigenous friends/soul family the illusion of Utopia being stolen by settlers is fantasy. Don't believe me, then read Thomas Sowell. Stop yearning for something that was never there and for which we have yet to attain. We want Utopia, start growing, get over ourselves (literally - our hang ups), and create the world we want. Peace on earth belongs to those who have peace within. Out of the heart, the mouth speaks - character matters and is worth the endeavour/investment. Only when we can take care of ourselves and our business can we then start helping others do the same. The world does not revolve around just ourselves afterall. And then maybe, one day, we can collectively work towards the goal of maybe becoming a Type 1 civilization, God willing, 😉.
I enjoyed reading this. I am British with genes from English, Welsh,Scots and Irish so I definitely am British,not just "English". Like most people of my generation I saw Old Hollywood westerns on tv and thought they were corny,then I read circa early 1970s about native American culture and the tragedy of its death and there was a definite emphasis on the native American as a figure of tragedy,almost an artist creation not real people. It was so unjust how white settlers just moved in and took their land. Even when contracts were signed and money changed hands we saw with historical hindsight it was a scam. But in our contemporary world when exactly the same scenario is being played out for real in the land territory between the Mediterranean sea and the lands of Persia,Egypt,Syria etc do we recognize the tragedy. No,we are told that if we feel a smidgen of sympathy for one side we are pro terrorist. It must have been just like that in 19thC America. Now more sophisticated anthropology is looking at the old sources and saying that the various indian tribes were in constant low level conflict(just like Europe). They were acquiring territory,losing territory,gaining overlordship,becoming defeated slaves just like in Europe. Only sadly "we" eventually did it on an industrial level.
Absolutely, I agree. We cannot create "heaven" in this world of duality. You only appreciate happiness when you know misfortune, you appreciate money when you have earned it yourself, invention happens after you have made numerous trials and mistakes, mental strength comes when you have been through difficult times in life. Life is a challenge and the goal is permanent intellectual development. None of this would be possible if you had complete "freedom" and nothing stood in your way.
@@EnteleiEchein Blessed is the one who's Karma comes quickly. Blessed is the one who asks why. Blessed is the one who seeks understanding. 🙏 Personal growth also blesses others. Hurt people may hurt other people however I also believe hurt people understand hurt people. Where there is no understanding, their is no connection and why having leaders without understanding can never truly lead. No respect. I keep saying this, but we need a new/common lens.
@@janebaker966 🙂 🙏. There were also black people who had black slaves (Thomas Sowell). So, not race but era in regards to your last comment. Have you watched any Thomas Sowell? You may like his no nonsense approach narration. There is so much to learn from eachother even through the platform of storytelling, like TV. I like understanding the human development of psyche, so I have been studying it for the past few years. For me, we all are stories in different stages of construction with worldly affairs used like a landscape may direct a river. In the end, we each are different, but are our hearts? Are we not all made to continue forward and desire what is good? Even those whom we may not consider good, what is driving their behaviour? Maybe they just don't know a better way to get where they want to go? How to acquire safety? How to acquire security? We all need someone to look up to (Charlie Sexton - song: Beats So Lonely. My first tape I bought myself as an angsty teenager at 15). Who are our role-models now? I am now 50 and feel confident in saying I have reached this great honour with God's help. However even saying that, I deeply respect and admire these great minds of intellect and learning (even if they are younger, haha. Different roads). I am not near their level and happily feel like I am eavesdropping on these type of conversations, haha. I know people are hating on YT atm, but it truly is like a free university. Where else can we find like minds to sharpen our minds, and take in great thoughts we may not have pondered before. One of my greatest break throughs was after I read something about General Dogface, a general in the war lord era in China. I won't go into it here. Btw, I am "British" just like you in sense of blood from my dad's side, and Nordic from my mother's, and am currently Cdn. 🤗
The young can learn so much from Douglas Murray
Yea such arogance for absolutely no reason
So true.I have been to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the peace park.I was overcome with grief with what we did to the Japanese,but nowhere in Japan is there any sense of victimhood or reparations etc.They simply say it must never happen again and they push for world peace.They acknowledge their part in it and do not want to go to war again. This is hard for them now as the Chinese are always poking the stick at them.
BRING ON THE TRUTH - IT CERTAINLY IS TIME!
Well done DOUGLAS MURRAY - need millions more to speak the truth on all things - relationships included.
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Dear Douglas always gets it right!! I'm 82 and a Canadian grandma. I was a complete surprise being born into a family of adults l took in all the conversations. I remember the Mau Mau (spelling?), l remember the end of WW11 when an uncle came home after six/Six/SIX/ 6 years away from his family with the Queens Own Rifles, training and 3 and half years overseas!! WW11 had to be STOPPED and as no one else was doing it decisions were made to STOP 2 brutal regimes once and for all. If anyone out there thinks that the Allies made those decisions lightly, all l can say is those people who wish war was nicer need a few days on the Front Lines!!! ..(By the way the average height and weight of American and l would suppose other allied forces was 5 FEET 9 INCHES and 0NE HUNDRED AND FORTY POUNDS) !!!!! Well l remember them!
You were lied to. You believe it to this day. You were and are being lied to.
Thank God for Douglas Murray. A man of great intellect and greater moral integrity.
God may beg to differ
The ANC in South Africa came to power on a similar set of lies...
Karl Marx is all powerful.
Well said
Nelson Madella was a total communist and a terrorist.
It has nothing to do with Marx.@@williambranch4283
As well as the international Zionists came to Palestine with the same lies.
I love Douglas Murray. A strict diet of truth and common sense. Love it.
I stayed on a friends farm at Omata, Taranaki a few years ago. He is a decendant of a British soldier who fought in the Moari/ Pakeha war that started in New Plymouth. The farm is on the foreshore where the actual fighting happened. My mate showed me the very sites where it was waged and what happened where and to and by whom. One lovely grassy area overlooking the sea was where the Moari kept their captives, other Moari mind you from other tribes. These poor souls had their achilles tendons cut so they could not escape and were kept like chickens to be eaten when the occasion arose.
They were tough people who gave no quarter to their enemies.
...you wouldn't believe it the way they have been indoctrinated to believe everything that happened to them was due to colonisation. Just that, my mates, the Maoris I grew up with, played footy with, went to school with, went fishing with, worked with and did business with, they are all quite happy with their well earned homes, Ford Rangers and fishing boats. Seems to have worked out perfectly fine for those who choose to make the most of what we all have, in fact, they are often embarassed at how some of these eite and radical Maoris carry on. There's a whole new form or racism has developed based around the treaty unfortunately and Douglas Murray hits the nail right on the head about it in this video.
Captives were given a face tattoo before hand,and head traded for muskets.
The word is Māori.
Every nation, every race, every religion has a dark side. Only one thing is respected in tribal culture. Strength. Honourable and dishonourable. The weak and greedy choose the later.
@@4evaavfc ...yeah, no, some of us like moari, it seems to fit.
Douglas Murray you are so much appreciated
Man, I'm one of the people that believe that the truth must come out. You are a inspiration for the young people of the world to tell the truth. ❤❤❤❤
Douglas speaks so much sense
"Mother Theresa with a bit too much beheading..." HAHAHAHAHA! far out
Thats a good one. ROTFLMFAO
Westerners need to stop claiming credit for the West's achievements, while disassociating themselves from its crimes. This only reinforces misplaced loyalty to a civilization that never actually cared about them.👇
Absolutely no credibility. They want to take collective credit for good but never want to take the blame when things go wrong. The one thing the West has consistently done well is technology, so they approach even moral values with a technological mindset, imagining that "new" or "modern" means "improved."
@@heatherporterfield7343 Read what Peter Hitchens wrote about " Mother " Teresa .
Excellent line!!!
Douglas Murray should be compulsory reading for everyone. Well done again and please keep speaking the truth
Most people have no idea of what they so often pontificate upon. Mr Murray is quite right re the Maori. Excellent monologue.
Unless you're a racist white supremacist with your own painted version of new zealand history it's you who knows nothing about what you're talking about.
What does Murray know of Maori anyway? He has lived 50 years with no knowledge whatsoever of our history. The Royal family are the experts on us in the UK.
Almost everything he needs to get, is from a talk with a Maori in NZ, which he will never do.
@shauntempley9757 lol that's like saying "you need to talk to a neo-nazi to get the truth about nazis"
If you think us Maori are that distasteful, then I will not type to you ever again after today.
Comparing us to the Nazis is disgusting, considering I have Maori uncles that died fighting them in the Maori Battalion.@@AmonAnon-vw3hr
Do you think he will do an interview on the British in China and India and Ceylon and elsewhere ? Probably not
The myth of the noble savage... The premise that civilisation itself is that which has corrupted us from our "free from sin" past
Hi Douglas, miss seeing you on Fox News NY. I love listening to you speaking the truth.
Probably why he's not on anymore.
Because, he's been reporting from Israel.
Fox now theres an honest news network- FFsake
Adore Mr. Murray! & Mr. Anderson. Wonderful.
Always Brilliant!!!!
I wish Douglas was more featured on mainstream media.
How many years has this gone on in schools, movies and in mainstream media? Liberally re writing history, or flat out ignoring and omitting parts of it to push an anti white agenda.
Yes history happened, yes EVERY nation, race and creed have done brutal horrible things in the past, it happened, we teach it so we don't repeat the past.
So sick of the lense being focused on what White European nations have done in the past, while brushing under the carpet atrocities that have been commited by African nations, by Nations in the middle east, by Nations in East Asia, by Nations in South America.
There is such a twisted anti white narrative spreading like a cancer. Trying to fuel white guilt and white apologists,teaching, only white people are capable of being racist, only white people had slaves, white people are the cause of all problems, because institutional racism and colonialism.
All other ethnicities are just poor victims you see, who need reparations and hand outs because poor nations and poor people can't take responsibility for themselves.
I'm not saying don't help people out of poverty and don't help people improve their situation. But paying individuals millions, and nations demanding billions, for things that happened long outside of living memory gets us nowhere.
They won't tell you how many billions, yes billions with a B, that Europe and America give in international aid each year and how much national debt gets written off each year. It doesn't fit the victimhood narrative being spread. No the world isn't perfect, no we don't have a peaceful utopia, but maybe stop blaming the western world for all the world's problems.
Well said. The narrative has been properly skewed
Point well made ; point taken.
Very well said.Thankyou.
I'm in New Zealand myself. That pre-colonial Maori were like the legendary civilization of Atlantis has been taught in schools for a long time. I'm sure the Maori were not totally bad or good before the coming of the white man, but the way it's painted today you'd think white people destroyed the most peaceful and environmentally aware society ever.
Douglas Murray..has a vocabulary that paints with a sword and velvet glove..!💜
Murray has too many opinions no knowledge and too few ancestors
@@timrochford2265 British PR cleanup is in full panic mode- Charlies faking heart problems incase he has to let wee willy on the highchair as hes better looking ...desperation is real- off with their ....free pass
The first example of this I saw was the TV show 'Roots', where life in Africa before the advent of transatlatic slavery was portrayed as idyllic. The white slavers ventured inland to capture slaves, which was totally inaccurate as they had African leaders rounding them up for them. That was in the early 70s and it's simply become worse since.
Slightly off-topic - but Douglas should be aware that the flattening of Nagasaki SAVED a great many lives on both sides. If the Allies had had to fight their way for several years through all the islands and mainland Japan, then the death toll in Allied soldiers and Japanese civilians would have been enormous. The two hammer blows from the atom bomb showed the Japanese that they had no chance of winning, so they surrendered, which was the whole point of using them. Plus - of course, if the Japanese govt had done the sensible thing and surrendered after Hiroshima, instead of just hoping that the USA hadn't got another one - then Nagasaki would never have happened. The death toll at Nagasaki was their choice.
I would imagine he knows those finer details, but you are absolutely right.
I could listen to Douglas Murray for hours!! Great stuff as always from him in this video.
Speaks such sense.
EVERY civilization has black pages and greatness. Why don’t we simply acknowledge that, learn from our mistakes and use that knowledge to do better? I am PROUD TO BE HUMAN.
I've never smile as much as when I witness Douglas Murray go off.
I’m very proud of my British ancestry hey we bought civilisation to most of the world!
They brought their version of civilization to the world, the fact that you call it civilization is subject to interpretation.
And killed millions in the process.
As you should be!
Steam engines saved an awful lot of back breaking toil, and opened up a myriad of other labour saving devices
@@tomcashman6016 Progress isn't defined by numbers.
Douglas Murray is absolutely amazing . He should be PM
The life that Western Civilization provided for me is nothing less than grandly astonishing in the positive sense
Douglas Murray speaks a lot of sense.
As usual Douglas cuts through the BS and tells it like it is,
Ignores the inconvenient truth of British barbarism across the globe
@@mj897 Nearly every country was guilty of barbarism in the past---some like China are still at it. Why don't you call them out? Did you call out the barbarism of Nigeria for starving over a million Biafrans to death?
@@mj897 Tell us who your ancestors are so we can judge you by their deeds.
Thank you Douglas Murray for demonstration and articulating the bitter historical truths..many in societies cannot handle truthful facts.
The only thing you can do is to learn from history. Everyone is obligated to learn from history.
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Yes, read everything with a critical eye and always try to find several different sources, preferably from other countries as well.
Some, not all 😎 Maori used to kidnap Chattham Islanders for slavery and dinner.
Not all of them.
@@shoutatthesky ....hmm, yes. Good point.
Some Maori went to Chattham Island for labour and snacks. 😎
@@1969cmp You're hilarious. I'll give you that😁
@@shoutatthesky 🙂
"Mother Teresa with a bit too much beheading" lol
Mother Teresa was anything but a mother or a saint
@@echochamber8350 that sounds about right lol 😂 What was she then ? Enlightenment me ?
@@echochamber8350 She is an actual Saint, your ignorance is astounding.
No need to apologise Sir Douglas Murray 🙏🇬🇧🙏 thank you for your your brilliance at keeping Britain British
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Thank You, Mr. Murray. I'm learning more today from your interviews, than I have in the past 20 years.
Thanks for speaking the cringey truth! We Humans as a species have never really got along. And I fear we are not done yet!
Douglas Murray should write a book about the indigenous peoples that Western explorers discovered in Africa and the New World. Unimaginable horrors. everywhere.
Some. Benjamin Franklin and many others found the native american culture in the east quite attractive. I'd say that the world was a very diverse place in those days.
@@Frisbieinstein Did you not know that the North American natives tortured and scalped their enemies and roasted virgins on spits over open fires in sacrifice to their gods?
Wasnt their an english king who chopped of the heads of wives he didn't like. 😂😂
So civilised.
I so enjoy listening to this intelligent and eloquent man.
Thank you very much! Ft Sill in Oklahoma was not built to subjugate the Indian Territory but to keep the different tribes from slaughtering each other. When we leave that important piece out you get a very slanted picture of life as it truly was.
Thank you. Well said.
Maori's also genocided the Moriori of Chatham Island. They deny it of course because they want reparations for colonization. Although if not for colonization Maori's wouldn't have lasted more than 500 years. New Zealand would have been another Easter Island.
Michael King's books are the ones to read. He interviewed Moriori and describes what happened. I agree it would have been hard for the Maori to keep going the way they were as they had no writing, no wheels, no crops like potatoes or wheat (they had kumara) and they had killed off all the moa (large birds) so their existence was becoming necessarily brutal and cannibalistic. If you ask me, they needed the white people (yes, they ate some). And many Maori did welcome them and made friends but there were wrongs done, that is absolutely true, but it goes both ways. Wrongs on both sides... that's how life is.
This man is spot on and needs to continue to tell the truth.
Learning from past mistakes is apology enough!
Except Europeans are the ones that never learn.
If us Maori can change that much in 200 years, then there is something wrong with Europeans not doing that in the same time frame.
Are you sure?
Well, it took 30 years with gunfire to stop Maori from killing each other in open warfare.
It took Europeans with gunfire 400 years to do the same. That kind of proves my point.
The main difference between these two facts, is one has its culture fully intact, and the other abandoned the similar cultures centuries earlier.@@Reek151
Love this guy. No BS, just truth.
BRAVO from New Zealand, what an excellent summary on Maoris, the (conveniently) forgotten pages of our history.
Thank goodness for Douglas Murray! ❤
Except, we are not allowed talking about this in NZ.
My friends talk about it, but they are informed. Many just opine.
Well said Douglas.........just like everything else I've heard you say. 😊
Truth be told no one has ancestors that has clean hands
Thank you sir for your common sense, righteousness and reality.
I love this man
Everyone was war like an territorial.
We were just the best at it.
Could not resist this as someone born in Whitby. Captain Cook is one of our own. In the town museum (which is well worth a visit) one of the exhibits is a head hunters kit an knife from Borneo.
Makes you realise what horrors these sailors encountered when they circumvented the globe. An why they took muskets and cannons.
Captain cook is my hero.He was an amazing human being.I encourage anyone who doubts this to read more deeply.Not only was he a brilliant sailor,he was a true leader of men.He showed great compassion and interest in all the native people he met.He had an active,open mind and there are few to compare him to.He died tragically trying to prevent his men killing the natives.
@@fionaforward3358 That last bit might be a bit embellished. Think they had past that point an the natives were trying to pillage the ship. Stole everything not strapped down including the landing craft.
Think his hand had been forced.
But your right. He was one of a kind.
Well said
I wish it possible to put more than one like onto a CZcams video.
Douglas Murray, excellent books. Greetings from Brazil.
Everyone should be made to watch this!!
Everyone is. Propagander being dropped on us all from up high....bullshyt
History, despite it's wrenching pain,
Cannot be unlived.
But if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
I'm a kiwi and thanks for saying as it is
We do need more people to be courageous and speak the truth. As you both point out we can't look to democratic governments to lead significant change. We need to see more of the change movement that led to the birth of civilization as we have known it and that will require a lot of courage.
I have to admit the Haka doesn't look or sound like a welcoming mat to any visitors.
The war Haka is very rarely used. That is seen at protest marches.
The Haka you see today are vastly different, and all of them done today are stories. We remember our history, both from before and after New Zealand was settled.
For every thing that colonisation gave us with one hand, it took much, much more with the other hand.
@shauntempley9757 no it didn't, all it did was take away ultimate power from a select few high born Maori.
In return Maori got everything they know and enjoy today.
No other group in human history has given so much, and taken so little, even your rights as a person.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr It is true in my opinion that Maori greatly benefited from their interactions with British settlers, Rule of law, literacy, medicine, new agricultural products and livestock would be just a few things to mention that would have greatly elevated Maori quality of life. At the same time, Maori, during the first 20 years of British sovereignty prospered. But that slowly, changed to a point where Maori are 15% of the population but represent 52% of prisoners. Im not sure where or how Maori fell behind (a multi facited problem), but 60% (european) of New Zealanders were all cool with it while it happened until recently. While I do believe that real change comes from within (ie. Maori change themselves to be and do better), it does bother me that Kiwis of European decent never want consider that their forefathers may have had a hand in the decline of Maori while their lands were confiscated, and their culture was undermined.
Maori life expectancy before settlers was in their 90's age wise, and it was common for Maori women to have children in their 50's or 60's, without any problems for the child or mother. Both were healthy throughout their lives.
Now, it is 70 at a massive stretch, 50 with no help, and women often die in child birth, and children have many health problems, because the diets are structured to Pakeha biology, and will not include Maori diet in their treatment advice.
My own mother had a doctor tell her not to eat her cultural foods, in spite of the fact that she was always healthy when eating them, and she even had the proof in her records.
Maori women live longer than Maori men by 20 years, where before, it was a few years difference, if the Tribe was not at war.@@thundercid1533
To even make the suggestion that there were 200 or more "nations" tribes or groups that co existed peacefully in Australia as hunter gatherers is so ingenuous it is embarrassing.
They made shields for no other reason than to protect themselves from the enemies weapons.
It is well documented that there were surprise attacks on camps and more organised battles that would have happened for millennia.
It is also highly probable that they ate each other either for survival or ritual reasons.
This is the truth.
Ha,ha.If the British had not come,there were French,Spanish,Portuguese etc on their tail.Then,we have the war with Japan.How do you think the aboriginals would have fared with the Japanese?They would really have massacred them all.Please,look at true history and don’t make up fairy stories.There was nothing of the ‘noble savage’ about the aboriginals.Their lives were harsh,short,brutal,and just pure survival.
Douglas Murray is always spot-on. Well done sir!
In the US, the kids say the Native Americans lived in peace in an idyllic lifestyle.
The ignore the inter-tribal wars, and pushing different tribes across the plains.
Our educational system promotes this, and needs to be reformed.
Absolutely CAPTAIN COOK lost a whole boat full of his men from HMS Adventure eaten by Mauri who were Cannibals .In his humanity he did not even take revenge when he had the power to wipe out all of them.
Your delusional He was an arrogant Godless man
Unfortunately, some blacks in the USA, UK and elsewhere bleat endlessly about how the whites treated them in the past, this is just a front for preferential treatment and reparations. The Blackman was to the Whiteman a commodity that's it. In England the indigenous population, what's left of it, could supposedly claim damages from amongst other the Romans, Vikings and the Normans, the latter changed almost everything in Britain. But we don't, it happened and that is history, which is fact and not returnable for a better product. Britain's RAF, with some enormous help from the US 8th Airforce flattened much of Germany, do the Germans complain endlessly about history, no, by the 1950s they were selling us nice Mercs, and now just about everything else of quality.
Put it into words much better than I could!
Ridiculously well put by Douglas once again.
‘We are here because something happened’…
If conditions are good, thank God….If conditions are bad, you might be up a creek, but you’re alive…. but it’s not the fault of everyone around you…they just got dropped here too!!😢
Westerners need to stop claiming credit for the West's achievements, while disassociating themselves from its crimes. This only reinforces misplaced loyalty to a civilization that never actually cared about them.👇
Absolutely no credibility. They want to take collective credit for good but never want to take the blame when things go wrong. The one thing the West has consistently done well is technology, so they approach even moral values with a technological mindset, imagining that "new" or "modern" means "improved."
Its a case of the tall poppy syndrome. Western society gets criticized because it simply beat all the rest. Westerners simply had bigger dreams, beyond just conquering their closest neighbour.
Thank you😊
Douglas is a treasure
As an Australian of Anglo descent, I draw a marked distinction between the British aristocracy and the British people - the aristocracy were and probably still are much like the globalists and WEF of yesteryear - interfering just about everywhere on Earth. So what if the Māoris were blood thirsty? Why didn't the British expansionists just leave them alone? And as for Australia, the mistreatment of the exiled British and convicts is at least equal to any mistreatment of the Australian Aborigines and we won't even start with how the Irish were treated. The conclusion is that evil has nothing to do with race or history but that there has always been and will always be a power class which resides in foreign shores that we should revolt against with all our might and make sure they leave us bloody well alone. Power to the people who reside and prosper within their own nation, whether they be indigenous or have pledged their loyalty there. There must be loyalty and defence of one nation and only one nation for every person on earth and if you do not pledge loyalty, you can buggar off.
Thank you for drawing that distinction. If I hear one more American look at Prince Charles and talk about British teeth I'm going to become an amateur dentist.
Ah yes Australian unity, enforced by a pledge of alleig-- loyalty. How terribly 1940s of Australia.
I agree evil has nothing to do with race or history, Australia can do it too.
You either fight the power class or join the power class. Interesting dilemma.
Honestly, I have to save this comment for being the best explanation of the ideology Imperialism is opposed to. Does the "the right to be left alone" apply to all humans, or merely the power structures presiding over a territory? Is it immoral to interfere with individual rights? Or is it immoral to interfere with the power structures that interfere with individual rights under their reign? Both Imperialists and Anti-Imperialists claim to be the "true" defenders of human freedom and non-interference.
Yawn...with an eye roll at this point.